Sticking With Holmes. Everything Points To A Decision Made!
Although I never really believed that the Jets and Santonio would part ways, I think the fact that he is still a Jet this morning means he is here to stay. As reported by numerous people, if Santonio was a Jet on Wednesday morning (this morning), he would be guaranteed $7.5 million of his 2013 salary along with his 2012 salary which means the Jets are tied to Santonio to the tune of $15.25 million guaranteed.
I know a lot of people were and to a certain extent still are angry with Holmes, and a fair few people were in favour of getting rid of Holmes. However let's just bottom line it, it's not happening with the current situation. I'm sure we can bob and weave some scenarios where Holmes could move on, but after today I am 99.7% certain that Holmes will be a Jet in 2012.
I think the Jets knew it a long time ago (they have heavily defended Holmes and guaranteed his return on multiple occasions) and so did Holmes (sent out an olive branch tweet to team captains Sanchez and Pouha and by all accounts will be meeting with Sanchez). I think it is one less distraction and Holmes is a proven play-maker. Yes he had issues in 2011, he was immature and he played out his frustration in ridiculous fashion. However he won us some game in 2010 and in 2011 a season of struggle, he still brought down 8 TD's.
Holmes needs a supporting cast, just like he had with Braylon in 2010 and Sanchez needs to improve to get him the ball. Holmes needs to do a better job all around and being a better team mate. However Holmes makes the Jets a better team and I think cutting him or trading him would have just given us more holes to fill, with a team lacking depth, that's never a good thing.
So I think this all but guarantees his return in 2012, do your work with Sanchez, get your butt out to Jets West with the other receivers. Form a bond with your team mates at Cortland and OTA's and the most important thing, prove your worth on the field. That's a lot of guaranteed money but if he plays as he can, it's well worth it.
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Sticking With Holmes. Everything Points To A Decision Made!
Holmes is an unreliable guy who like his head coach cannot manage or contain himself without eventually self-destructing and harming the team. After what happened between him and Sanchez, no self-respecting quaterback is going to gain the credibility of his team without serious apologies and sincere misgivings and regret for their behavior—which will NEVER happen from Holmes. There may be no way out for the Jets given the foolish contract Tannenbaum was willing to give a timebomb who can only be satisfied with endless accolades necessitating a demand to get the ball on every play and never losing a game. The Jets need a top down house cleaning. Poor management—we are now then new Redskins a la Dan Snyder!
i bet the 2 years prior to this season there wasnt a bad thing you could say about this team
now after 1 bad year we need a “top down house cleaning” and we are the “new redskins” holmes got upset with a crappy season and a dumb OC. next year when the jets are in the playoff again im sure you’ll jump right on the bandwagon and be all happy to be a jets fan.
It all started with Plax
Did anyone read what was Plax’s relationship with the Giants and their coach. NOT GOOD!! I think the Jets have decided to keep Holmes (maybe bring back Edwards?) and get rid of Plax. That is why the FIRST FA signing was Turner who physically is similar to Plax. Before Plax was on the team this year, I never even heard a rumor of there being a problem with Holmes.
Today is also decision day fro Wayne Hunter
Today the Jets , cut , restructure, or fully guarantee Wayne’s 2.5 million dollar salary.
I am in the minority,hoping for a restructure at a 1.3 level. I just don’t like the Free Agent RT available. And like always I blame a lot of Hunters problems on Schotty
I wouldn't mind keeping Hunter as a cheap backup
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It's done, Wayne Hunter guaranteed 2.5 million , the whole Enchilada
Tanny and Rex are complete idiots, I will never defend them again, it’s embarrasing, such morons, all is lost. What a wonderful way to kickoff the off season.
Found this...
Man… my excitement for this coming season just imploded. Next up, $15,000,000 for Eric Smith!
That says that we can release him on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday…..does that mean start of business on Wednesday or the end of Wednesday (I.E Midnight). Little confusing.
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I think we can still release/restructure him by the end of the day
at least i hope…
no f'n way
That’s it , I’m drinking
by nyj-nyy-nyk on Feb 8, 2012 8:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's really not the HC's fault when the GM retains someone
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The only way that I, a Jets fan, can think of this situation is....
….that I don’t know what went on behind the scenes. While what Tone did was seemingly unacceptable, I don’t know if it was done because he cares so much and was frustrated.
I know it’s hard to swallow, as we all want our players to be a mixture of Derek Jeter / Keith Hernandez / Curtis Martin etc……but the truth is, some players aren’t like that. Some are a bit “uncoordinated” in how they communicate.
So, as a fan, I have no choice but to hope for the best, and that some day we will look back and say it was a turning point in his career / learned from it / became a leader etc.
Whether or not this will happen, who knows. And I can’t argue with anyone who thinks he’s a spoiled brat.
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It's not realistic to get rid of him
although I am still angry with him and have zero confidence in his abilities or willingness right now.
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+1
Sums it up perfectly, I want him gone in the worst way but realistically it would be hard to match what he can bring to the table with what we can get for him, and would worsen our cap situation to boot.
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by NYJALLFINGDAY on Feb 8, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
+2
Eff Holmes. We can’t get rid of him, but that doesn’t mean we have to like it. This is just another nail in Tanny’s coffin as far as I’m concerned. I think he needs to hit a grand slam in both FA and the draft this year, or his ass should be fired.
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we have no choice
to cut him will cost too much money and leave more holes to fill. He is a good WR but his behavior has been detrimental to the team. hopefully everyone can move on from last season. It was not that bad a move for the FO originally as he had a great year and proved he could be a team player. Once he got signed however he turned into a baby. We need his playmaking skills to win but we will also need another WR (Bray or meachem?) slong with tone.
I'm not surprised
What other choice do the Jets have? It’s a waste of money to cut him and no one would be willing to trade for him so we’re stuck. I have faith Tone and Sanchez will work out their differences this off season but Braylon or some other deep threat guy needs to be signed and Plax needs to go away.
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Nice..
7.5 million a year for a 51 catch/yr receiver. possibly tannenbaum’s worst move as GM. At least one more year of him bitching, celebration penalties, and Quiting when things ain’t goin Tone’s way. WAY TO SEND A MESSAGE ABOUT TEAM UNITY AND DISCIPLINE. we have no leverage with this asshole. He can act out like a child and underperform and still get paid.
Did u say underperform??? I dare tanny to ship him to new england. U have to know who we got as OC and QB
by overloadblitz on Feb 8, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Ship Wayne Hunter to New England and he'll probably be useful
Who cares? The more telling part is that New England probably would ship Holmes out for doing the same thing and not miss him. We’re locked in to Holmes for probably 2 more years at an elite salary when he’s far from an elite player. yay!
Exactly why you let Holmes stay because our QB is not there yet. Sanchez cannot make any receiver good. Until Sanchez ups his game, he needs playmakers like santonio. It all starts with Sanchez. If he does not want Holmes, he gotta make his own receivers from a bunch of unknowns. Until then FO would dictate his receivers even forcing him with unfriendly bedfellows like holmes.
by overloadblitz on Feb 8, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Good move
I think Holmes was vocal to a point his teammates could not stand him. Hey but someone gotta talk. Antrel Rolle was that for the Giants and called out team captain Tuck to get back on the practice field. Jets player IMO did not show enough passion last season. Judging from the clip posted, Santonio was rallying them for battle, and they just stood their emotionless. I think it is a good move for Holmes to be back. How could we cut a playmaker. Giants kept Osi, even after his diva demands. Enough of Tanny and Rex letting good players walk and im glad they got the memo.
like it or not
Holmes is by far our best receiver. He has great hands and makes very tough catches. I’ll put his attitude problems on Rex Ryan to control.
by nyj-nyy-nyk on Feb 8, 2012 3:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Holmes can still be good
I thought he was terrible this year, but if the Jets can get some other deep threats he can still have as good a year if not better then he had in 2010
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Good choice. Holmes was frustrated this past season.
He certainly didnt like the fact that he wasnt thrown to as much as he wanted. Holmes probably felt that he can help the teams situation because he knows what he can do on the field. He’s a good reciever with game-changing ability. I also think braylon’s departure effected his game
Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
by jets4life24 on Feb 8, 2012 4:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
that plus schotty being schotty
by nyj-nyy-nyk on Feb 8, 2012 5:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think it's pretty much official
I think Wayne hunter will be back next season without a pay cut. That doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll start. I guess they figured a little over two million was feasible pay for a backup tackle.
Interesting Tidbit on Holmes
Found on another site:
PFF rates Holmes like this:
Biggest Drop Off
Santonio Holmes: From +4.7 to *-11.0
The scary thing about that 2010 number is it doesn’t do justice to the year Holmes had, with picking up a +10.3 for his receiving, and only penalties, rushing and blocking. So good was his performance (as it has been for the prior two years to 2010), you understood why the former Steeler got the money he did. That entire combination just adds–along with the seeming attitude issues–to the disappointment in the year Santonio Holmes had. Mark Sanchez didn’t help, but Holmes just catching 52% of balls thrown his way isn’t all on his QB. We know how good he is, so a bounce back year is a strong possibility, but it’s worrying that after getting paid, he put forth a year like this.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Alexander Tyler

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