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Keys to the Offseason (Part 3: Striking Gold in Free Agency)

When I submit this post, the New York Giants will be wrapping up a day of parading around Manhattan, reveling in the thrill of their fourth Super Bowl victory. It is impossible to take a step in New York City without running into a crazed Giants fan, but I'm beyond ready to move forward into the offseason. In fact, I am already eagerly awaiting spring, which has historically been an action-packed time of year for the New York Jets. Gang Green will be slightly restricted because of a tight salary cap, but free agency will nonetheless present an opportunity for the Jets to plug some holes. For my keys to the 2012 free agency period, take the jump!

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Despite the widespread perception that the New York Jets' current roster is deeply flawed, the truth is that Gang Green is perfectly positioned for long-term success. Cap space will be tight, but the Jets' areas of needs are at positions that have historically been the cheapest to fill out. One of their most urgent needs is at pass-rusher, and general managers tend to dole out the big bucks for sacks. Luckily the draft is deep with talented sack-artists, so the Jets will be able to bolster its pass rush in this way. Because of the new rookie-scale, the Jets will have the opportunity to pick up at least one skilled OLB or DE at a bargain price. Their other needs are as follows:

A RT to replace Wayne Hunter: Mark Sanchez was statistically the worst QB in the league when under pressure, and in 2010 his completion percentage was 26.52% higher when his line held up. That was the biggest difference of all the quarterbacks in the league, and really underlies the importance of protecting the Sanchize. A stud RT like Jonathan Martin may fall to the Jets in the draft, but the chances of this happening are unlikely and it would be foolish to expect a mid-round pick to contribute right away. My approach to fixing this position would be to draft a talented project player in the later rounds (Levy Adcock, anybody?), and sign a decent veteran as a stopgap while Vladimir Ducasse and the other young OTs develop. These are the options in free agency:

  • Khalif Barnes: Barnes was a 2nd round pick of the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2005, but his erratic play and frequent missed blocks earned him the nickname "Khawiff". His pass protection in Jacksonville was a huge disappointment, but his run-blocking was typically satisfactory. He signed with the Raiders in 2009, and enjoyed a good season as the starting RT in 2011. His pass blocking improved tremendously, and he only gave up 3.5 sacks all season long. In fact, Barnes' refined pass protection solidified Oakland's line, which gave up 25 sacks in 2011 (4th best in the NFL). Barnes wore down a little toward the end of the year, but he would be a definite upgrade over Wayne Hunter. Check out this advanced analysis for a deeper look at Barnes' season. This would be an unexciting signing, but it might be the best option given the circumstances.
  • Demetrius Bell: Bell had an injury-plagued season in 2011, but was very good when he received game-action. He allowed only .5 sacks in 7 games, and is noted for being a very good athlete. However, he has been injury prone and his technique still needs to be refined, so he will be a risky addition to any team. I believe that Bell will receive a substantial payday this offseason, so I hope that the Jets stay far away from him, given that he is a huge gamble.
  • Levi Brown: This former #5 overall pick has been a bit of a bust in Arizona, and will likely be cut due to his high salary. I wouldn't want the Jets to rely on Brown as a starter, but bringing him in as a project would be a great move. He has exceptional talent and great size for the position, so a change of scenery might do wonders for him. His erratic play over the last few seasons will likely force him to take a job as a backup, and pouncing on that opportunity would be a great move for the Jets.

A down-field threat WR: In the summer of 2011, the Jets were faced with a dilemna. Their top two receivers were free agents, and they only had the money to retain one. Keeping Santonio Holmes over Braylon Edwards might've been the right choice at the time, but 'Tone proved to be ineffective without a deep-threat opposite him. The Jets almost never threw deep in 2011, and this predictability on offense allowed opposing defenses to take away the middle of the field (where Holmes has thrived throughout his career). Gang Green appears to be set in the slot given the very promising stretches that Jeremy Kerley flashed during his rookie year, but need a deep-threat to stretch the defenses. Let's take a look at the most likely options:

  • Robert Meachem: the free agent class is very deep at the WR position, with DeSean Jackson, Dwayne Bowe, Vincent Jackson, and Mike Wallace at the top of most teams' wishlists. The Jets probably won't be able to afford any of the top-tier receivers, but they will likely be able to land a guy like Meachem for a bargain price. The Saints will have to resign many expensive players, including Drew Brees, OG Carl Nicks, and WR Marques Colston. New Orleans would love to retain all of their free agents, but keeping both Colston and Meachem is a bit of a luxury. Meachem is a highly-skilled WR that has a rare mix of speed (4.39 40 yard dash) and height (6'2''). He has the skills to be one of the best recievers in the league, but has been known to follow up huge games with total duds. A change of scenery might flip his switch, but even the Meachem that played for the Saints the past few seasons would be a great addition to the Jets. The Chargers' Malcolm Floyd had very comparable statistics in his contract year, and signed for 5 million over 2 years. Floyd was 2 years older when he signed last summer, but I'd expect Meachem's contract to be in the same range. For that price, Robert Meachem is exactly what the doctor ordered.
  • Braylon Edwards: Last summer, Braylon was insulted by the Jets' lukewarm pursuit of him. He eventually signed a meager $1 million base contract with the 49ers, but San Fransisco cut him in December because of persistent injuries and his failure to sync with the offense. Given Bray's difficult break up with the Jets, I highly doubted his return. However, Rex Ryan recently complimented Edwards in an interview, and Braylon in turn seemed open to the possibility of a Jets return on twitter. Bray is a perfect fit for this team, as his speed and ball skills made him a perfect receiver on deep routes. His chemistry with Mark Sanchez is undeniable, and he always gave 110% on the field. The injury concerns are still present, and Braylon has had a few run-ins with the law. This should make him a very affordable option in the spring, as a classic low-risk, high-reward player.
  • Mario Manningham: Mario has had an inconsistent 3 seasons with the Giants, but had flashes of being a dominant wide-out. In the most critical moment of the most consequential game of the year, Manningham put it together with an incredible catch. However, his targets in 2011 were diminished with the emergence of Victor Cruz, and it wouldn't surprise me if Manningham decided to leave the Giants for an opportunity at a starting gig. He has concentration problems and his hands are often unreliable, but his speed forces defenses to remain honest. In a market ripe with wide recievers, I'd look for Manningham to receive a contract similar to Meachem (2 years/ 6 million). That would be fair value, but Manningham's incredible Super Bowl catch might have earned him an additional million in free agency. Of the 3 recievers I've listed, Mario would be my last choice. Regardless, he'd be a fine addition to an offense that was all too predictable last season.

A ball-hawk safety: During the 2011 season, the Jets' lack of quality safeties exposed them on more than one occasion. Jim Leonhard is recovering from a very serious injury and may be unable to attend training camp, and Eric Smith's inability to play the pass is widely known around the NFL. Gang Green needs a ball-hawking safety that can drop back in coverage, especially given the recent surge in athletic tight ends. Although it will be important to upgrade this position, I think that the urgency is a little overstated. Sure, our safeties stunk it up against the better tight ends in the NFL. However, it is almost impossible to find a player that can match up in man coverage with guys like Rob Gronkowski or Jason Witten. If Brady is given time, he will find Gronk repeatedly, regardless of who is defending him. The way to combat this problem is by improving the pass rush, so I believe that finding a safety is the least critical of the Jets' offseason needs. Nevertheless, Gang Green does need a playmaker at the position, so signing one (or two) should definitely be on their to-do list. There are several worthy safeties available in the draft, but everybody after Mark Barron will be a huge risk. Therefore, the Jets might look to stabilize the position by signing a veteran. Here are the options:

  • Dashon Goldson: This 5th-year vet played very well for San Fransisco last season, and will likely be looking for a contract to match his solid play. He had 6 interceptions last season and has shown flashes of being a classic ball-hawk. When he wasn't able to force a turnover, Goldson's disciplined coverage usually prevented opposing offenses from reeling off big plays. He has also delivered some big hits, including this HUGE thump last season. Eric Weddle signed for $40 million over 5 years last year, but that deal was universally regarded as overpaying. If Goldson looks for a similar contract, the Jets won't be able to make a run for his services. For slightly less, Dashon Goldson would be a perfect fit in the green and white.
  • LaRon Landry: Landry is one of the most talented safeties in the league, but injuries and inconsistent play should make him very affordable. He's typically good in coverage and is also solid in run-support, but he sometimes tends to over-pursue, resulting in blown plays. He has also missed 15 games over the last two seasons, and reportedly elected to not have surgery on his Achilles' injury this offseason. Landry certainly comes with a few risks, but this offseason may present the rare chance to sign a supremely talented safety for a bargain price.
  • Reggie Nelson: This former first round pick may never live up to his pre-draft hype, but he may perfectly fit the Jets' needs. He covers his position exceptionally, and picked off 4 passes last season. Nelson has often been knocked for not being physical enough, but he seemingly improved in that area last season with 85 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, and 2 sacks. He's inconsistent at times and won't be an exciting signing, but I wouldn't mind bringing the former Florida Gator in on a cheap contract.

Player to Watch: Sione Pouha has been one of Gang Green's most consistent players in the Rex Ryan era. His ability to play the run is only rivaled by his great presence in the locker room, and his contributions over the last couple seasons cannot be overstated. Pouha is a free agent this offseason, and his solid performances will present him with the opportunity for a big pay-day. Resigning Pouha will be one of Mike Tannenbaum's key to the offseason, but he may just price himself out of the Jets' range. Losing him would hurt, but Tanny should avoid overpaying for this 33 year old NT. Rex Ryan's specialty is the defensive line, and the Jets are lucky enough to have a deep unit. Gang Green would miss Pouha's leadership, but replacing his play on the field is possible. If Pouha does indeed become too expensive, Tannenbaum would be much better off using the money elsewhere. This would open up many possibilities, including going after players like Cliff Avril or Robert Mathis.

Stay faithful Jets fans! As hard as it was for us to watch the Giants win the Super Bowl, it must've been torturous for Rex Ryan and Mike Tannenbaum. The Jets will be back with a vengeance, and this offseason has the potential to be the start of something truly special.

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From what I have heard from some San Fran fans

Goldson is a ball hawk, but he blows a lot of overages so I’m not that sure about him. I would like to see us sign either Bell or Brown though.

Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.

by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Feb 7, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

He'd be an upgrade, but he's gotta be the most overrated Safety in the NFL right now

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by Bro Namath on Feb 7, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt we could afford him anyway

But I really like Goldson. Who do you guys prefer?

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by Jeff W. on Feb 7, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the options at WR.

Meachem and manningham are a little inconsistent but they can stretch the field. Braylon would come cheaper and he has chemistry with mark and holmes. I can’t wait for the offseason to officialy begin in March, and the draft. Time to build a championship team!

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by jets4life24 on Feb 7, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

I hate them

Manningham and Meachem aren’t great deep guys or consistent. Edwards couldn’t even stay on his playoff team with a 1 million dollar contract. How much must he have sucked for them to cut him in time for the playoffs with no replacement, when they had already paid him the bulk of his very cheap salary.

Nobody wants him. Very telling.

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by Bro Namath on Feb 7, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

This

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Feb 8, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't believe

how everyone who is clamoring for Braylon doesn’t pay attention to the last year.

by ________key on Feb 8, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

As much as I like those options for RT

I’d rather roll the dice and get a rookie like Mike Adams if several OLB prospects are out of the way

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Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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by Noble_Lance on Feb 7, 2012 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, the free agent options at RT are pretty stinky, to say the least.

If a good OT draft prospect falls to us, I’d scoop him up. But it really is pretty unlikely that we can get one of the highly rated OT in the draft. Check out MTD’s latest mock draft:
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/2/7/2776093/lets-kick-off-the-off-season-with-a-mock-draft

Kalil, Reiff, Martin, and Adams are all likely to be gone before we pick. If one of them is on the board, I’d roll the dice. but penciling in a mid-rounder as a starter is a really risky proposition, and we’ve seen how it can really blow up in our face with the Ducasse pick two years ago. If we can’t get one of the aforementioned rookies, I’d sign a cheap vet like Barnes just to play it safe.

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by Jeff W. on Feb 7, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Ducasse was rawer than the 4 we have here in this case.

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Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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by Noble_Lance on Feb 7, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just tryna say that I'd roll with any of the 4 (Kalil, Reiff, Martin, Adams)

but after they’re off the board it gets really risky.

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by Jeff W. on Feb 7, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh no I'm sorry, I thought you meant that they were the midrounders that were risky.

like Adams/Martin my mistake.

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Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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by Noble_Lance on Feb 7, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Noo I just wasn't clear about what exactly I meant, my fault

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by Jeff W. on Feb 7, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

A good OT is crucial...

but I’m not sold on Adams via the draft, or Barnes via FA. Unlikely, but I’d love to get either Reiff or Martin in the draft. As for FA, I’d prefer Anthony Collins (CIN) or Gaither (SD) despite his tricky back issues. Anyway, nice work on this article. Very impressive.

by elmoron on Feb 9, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you guys

I want pass rusher first, but I’d take a top tier OL that fell to us.

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by Bro Namath on Feb 7, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me put it this way.

If Upshaw, Coples, and possibly Ingram were off the board, and I had to chose between someone else or say Mike Adams who should be the last of the four selected. I say we take him over anything else.

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by Noble_Lance on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't satisfy

a top need, but it’s plausible that DeCastro (G/Stanford) could fall all the way to 16. If so, I’d take him, even over Adams. Then address the OT through FA. Would be a heck of an OL.

by elmoron on Feb 9, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Replacing Pouha

Would be harder than it seems. The guy is immovable and is the the stale to our run stopping. Plus I love going to Jets games and screaming Pooouuhhhaaa whenever he makes a play. Keep him.

by nyj-nyy-nyk on Feb 7, 2012 7:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

In Free Agency i hope we get...

Safety LaRon Landry…on our defense,definetly our most pressing need.

WR Braylon Edwards…we never shouldve let him out the door when we had him.

O-Line…not sure who but has to be under 30 and at least decent :)

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by AFCxxBEAST on Feb 7, 2012 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

Another RT Option

Reggie McKenzie performed very well this year and probably has another 2-3 years left, which is more than enough time to develop a younger RT. And, don’t forget: Hunter’s coming back…healthy, hopefully. I like Meachem and Landry, both, and use the draft for Richardson at 16 — assuming he’s there — or, trade down and get more picks for the later rounds.

by JetLogic on Feb 7, 2012 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

ha!

another good post jeff. your going to have to post in the offseason

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by rexthejet on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You Know What They Say

about being aware of Geeks bearing Gifs!!! ;-) LOL!!!!!

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by joeklecko on Feb 8, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Good Read

but where exactly do you think the Jets are going to find the cap $s to sign a RT, WR and a Safety as well as Pouha and the rookies?

I’m not nearly as high on Goldson as others are, and I think he’ll probably want too much money. While Rex knows Landry, Landry can’t stay healthy and is inconsistent. I think the Jets had the opportunity to sign Landry a year or two ago and passed. I’ll be surprised if they show any interest now.

I wonder how much Barnes and/or Brown will want? Hopefully, one will be cheap enough so the Jets can at least sign a S as well (Nelson or Griffin, or at least Lowery), and maybe even Braylon or Fasano.

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by joeklecko on Feb 7, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

I could be wrong but i read it as, “these are the needs, here are some FA options.” Not so much as we should fill every single need through FA.

by Crackback on Feb 7, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, thats how I intended it.

We’re just not going to be able to afford filling every need through FA. For one, Goldson will probably be way too expensive, but he’d be ideal otherwise. This is really just a list of the options, and many of these options should be cheap and definitely realistic.

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by Jeff W. on Feb 7, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry I Misunderstood

I thought you were saying we should sign one at each position. My bad.

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by joeklecko on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No, its actually my bad. You’re the reader, I’m the “writer”. I’m supposed to make my writing clear enough to avoid all confusion. Sorry!

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by Jeff W. on Feb 7, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

No Problem

You may have been perfectly clear. Crack got it. Sometimes I’m in a hurry when I read or it’s late and my mind’s foggy. All’s good!!!

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by joeklecko on Feb 8, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Franchise tag

I think they will give Pouha the franchise tag this year. That way they aren’t locked in with long term deal with guarantee money and can give K. Ellis another year to develope. There are no other FA on Jets this year worthy of the franchise tag. Pouha was one of the best NT in the NFL this year.

by Skimat on Feb 7, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

how big is the franchise tag? it might be too much. idk how much room we have for Pouha, but the average of the top 5 paid
DTs? thats gotta be a lot of money. there’s no rule saying the Jets have to use their frachise if they dont want to

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by jetstothesb on Feb 7, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

6.8 Mil

thats alot and its absurd b/c richard seymour has a 15m contract. The next highest DT is 6m…. No way we franchise him to make him the second highest paid tackle in the league.
http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/defensive-tackle/

if we franchise can we sign him to a longer term deal or do we need to pay him the worth of the tag

by tanTrum on Feb 8, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

….they might be giving Ellis an Extradition Flight home in May…….how long will that set his development back after his 15 to 20 slammer time?

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by Canadian Jet on Feb 9, 2012 5:15 AM EST up reply actions  

We don't necessarily have to totally solidify ourselves everywhere

no team is like that, we need to have some areas compensate for others. For example, by having a better pass rush, our safeties don’t have to cover for as long.

by darshv3 on Feb 7, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

Hit it all on the head here

I’d like to get Braylon back, but I really like the sound of Holmes Meachem and Kerly

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by Simon Says Jets on Feb 7, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Meachem?

He can’t run routes, drop tons of balls. With Brees throwing to him, he should have more rec, yard, td. He reminds me of Macherins idk(came from titans) He sucked and so will Meachem. Fix the defense to get after the qb, we have good cover guys except our safties but if you have these guys covering for 6, 7, 10 seconds, wr’s are gonna get open.

by starwars on Feb 7, 2012 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

We're not getting Mike Wallace. For the money we have, Meachem would be perfect IMO.

Sure he’s not perfect. He’s extremely inconsistent. He drops passes. But he possesses something that nobody on the Jets does, and that’s an ability to stretch the field. Defenses won’t be able to sleep on him, because 9 times out of 10 he will burn them.

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by Jeff W. on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

mostly agree

I think there are a lot more FA o lineman out there. Im afraid that manningham will get more than we want to pay. For safety I also like Michael Griffin. We also need to sign pouha.

by RichTodd on Feb 7, 2012 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

No To Manningham

Too expensive, and Chris Collingsworth pointed out something very important about Manningham. When he runs longer routes, he almost always drifts too far towards the sidelines and gives little room for the QB to throw the ball. After Collingsworth showed that, Manningham did it again on almost every route. He did on the key route with the 38 yard gain, but left just enough space that time that Manning was able to get it in there. Sanchez won’t be able to do that. You know the Giants’ WR coaches have worked and worked with Manningham on that. Obviously, he’s either stupid or stubborn. I’ve never liked him anyway. I don’t think the team has the FA $ to sign a WR anyway, and if they do, it should be Braylon. His hands are reliable. He has chemistry with Sanchez. He blocks in the running game. He’s tough and fiery on the field, and wanted to be a Jet. If the Jets treat him with some respect this time, I think he will come back, play hard and put up some big numbers.

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by joeklecko on Feb 7, 2012 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

If 2 years ago...

You would have said that about Braylons hands, I would’ve questioned your sanity haha. But I definitely like bray for the Deepfield threat. Worked before and if the injury doesn’t hold him back it may work again

by Buddy James on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why Not Now? LOL

Lots of my friends question my sanity on a daily basis! LOL!!!

Yes, Braylon had a problem with dropping balls before he came to the Jets. He worked hard and fixed that, however. While he had a bad year with SF, and has to take the brunt of the responsibility for that, his position coach and HC in SF also bear some responsibility. Not every player reacts in the same way. What motivates one player, insults and turns off another. While the WR coach and OC will be different, I think Braylon would play very well for the Jets again. They could offer him a decent base salary with a lot of reachable incentives to boost the value of his contract.

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by joeklecko on Feb 8, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

And I’ve long believed that Holmes could make a great statement to the entire franchise and its fans, as well as calm locker room discord, and help put last year behind him, AND (most importantly) help himself out tremendously by offering to restructure his sensational deal a little, thereby providing some cap room for the FO to bring in a legitimate #2. It certainly would go a long way with me.

by elmoron on Feb 9, 2012 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

I’d like to see it too…..but I don’t know if he’s the type of “Team” guy to do that kind of thing. He seems more like the “Me” or “I” in “Team” to me. But time and events can change people…….

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by Canadian Jet on Feb 9, 2012 5:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed....

Edwards really worked on eliminating the “drops” from his game. In the process he really refined the “toughness” around the ball. He fought and contested for balls better as a Jets receiver than earlier in his career. I think under Rex’s guidance he played with purpose and passion. One only has to look at the Jets eliminating the Pats in 2010 and watching Edwards scoring and his end game celebration. Who wouldn’t want that back on the team again moving forward.

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by Canadian Jet on Feb 9, 2012 5:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Not high on Goldson or any of the receivers

but we’ll make do with what we can.

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by Bro Namath on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

Ideally, I’d like Goldson, but I would be very happy with either one of the other choices.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Feb 8, 2012 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

What, no DeSean Jackson? lol

Maybe I’m the only one who would be willing, which is understandable given the character issues, but whatever they’re overblown anyway!

by Exystence on Feb 8, 2012 9:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I’d be very interested in DeSean. He could be a deadly combo with Holmes.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he'd really tear our locker room in half. He'd likely fight Holmes for #10

He is good, but a one trick pony and with his massive ego, no way he plays without getting the money he thinks he deserves

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!

by jets4life24 on Feb 8, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Doubtful. His only problem was that he was getting paid a pittance and treated like crap by the FO. He’s not usually a problem, it was just the way he thought he was being treated. Take away the problem and you have a productive WR that does one thing well – stretch the field. Much better than Edwards could ever do.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Feb 8, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps

but Braylon contributes in ways that Jackson never would even think or dream about, like blocking in the running game, dragging tacklers into end zones, presenting a big target and going up after passes.

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by joeklecko on Feb 8, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

As would I. Problem: He wants a big contract and someone will give him one if the Eagles are too stubborn to do it themselves.

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by Bro Namath on Feb 8, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly! Deadly Combo

They will be together, that is if Sanchez is still here attempting throws for us. Jackson is a great asset to any team especially us with westoff special team system. Jackson might break records if he is a return man for the J E T S this year but that still won’t be enough to keep this man happy if Sanchez can’t complete the long pass. Everyone claims Santonio is not a burner and can’t stretch the field but i remember the preseason game when he caught two deep post from brunell. JACKSON IS PERFECT FIT FOR OUR TEAM, HE CAN STRETCH THE FIELD, HE CAN TURN A SHORT CATCH INTO A TD, HE WILL DRAW ATTENTION WHICH WILL OPEN IT UP FOR EVERYONE BUT ALL THIS DEPENDS ON THE KID THROWING THE BALL AND HOW WELL HE CAN DO IT. (I SCREAMED AT TV WHEN WE DRAFTED HIM AND I AM STILL SCREAMING AT MY TV TODAY)

by starwars on Feb 9, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO

Id go after Nelson in FA and then Barnes the RT and sign Pouha.

then in the first round draft a WR (Sanu) after a trade down to collect more picks – use the two 2nd round picks (1 from the trade down) to get two OLB.

you’d then have Reggie Nelson at S, Barnes at RT (with Hunter as a back up), we retain Pouha and have Holmes, Sanu and Kerley as WR’s.

by np3 on Feb 8, 2012 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

Mixed

I’d be good with the Nelson signing and possibly the Barnes signing.

I like the trade down, but not taking a WR first, and I haven’t seen/read enough about him to be sold on Sanu.

The part where you lost me is having Hunter as the backup RT. I want his ass gone. He sucks. I’d rather have Ducasse or the other OT on the roster sight unseen than Hunter.

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by joeklecko on Feb 8, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

true

im only saying a WR in the first because if we happen to trade back to pick 25+ there’s probably not going to be that elite pass rush prospect available, therefore taking a WR wouldn’t be a bad thing because i highly doubt Plax will be back and you cant count on Braylon (if they do sign him) to be in his 2010 form (900 yards 7 tds) for us especially coming off his injury. and i doubt the Jets go after a big name WR in FA given that they probably wont have the cap room. (also why i think drafting gone at 16 inst out of the question either)

Hunter does suck, hes not a starter. but i just dont see the Jets cutting him. as poor as he played this season for us, no one on the Jets roster was able, or good enough, to take his spot. so if we do sign a RT in FA, i expect Hunter to be the backup (at least he wont be the starter then)

by np3 on Feb 8, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Your Reasoning for Taking a WR is Sound

as the first tier of pass rushers would likely be gone, although there is a chance that one of them might still be there. That said, Curry or another OLB prospect might be rated at the very top of the 2nd round. The Jets could still have that player more highly rated than Sanu or whatever WR, or perhaps even trade down again. If not, then I guess WR would be the best way to go. Trading down that far, they should be able to add an additional 2nd. Even though I’m definitely not a fan of trading up, if they thought Curry was the best pass rushing OLB prospect left and didn’t think the others were even close, and didn’t think he’d still be availble at their pick. They could trade the 2nd round pick they got for trading down plus possibly their 4th round pick to move up enough to take Curry. My reasoning for that is that I think they absolutely have to come out of this draft with a topshelf OLB prospect out of the first two rounds. They can add another in the 3rd round or lower, but they must get one that has more potential. Hopefully, this will be a moot point as Perry or Ingram will still be there at #16 and/or Curry will still be there for the Jets’ 2nd round pick.

I don’t think Hunter would need to stay as a backup. If they sign a FA RT, and draft an RT prospect, then between them, Ducasse and Austin Howard, they ought to be able to come up with both a better starter and backup than Hunter. I don’t think that Hunter was even that good as a blocking TE. He just isn’t physically imposing or dominating. He’s a finesse blocker (read wussy). I don’t think he has a place on the team with the shift back to a power running attack and man blocking scheme.

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by joeklecko on Feb 8, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

U must be sick at heart today JoeK.....

What with the news that the Jets have NOT CUT your idol Wayne Hunter (yet) but they’ve guaranteed his contract for 2012(WTF were they smoking/thinking). Seriously, I’m as dumfounded as you on this one. I had to re-read John B’s headline to make sure I had read it right. Yup the good ship Jet plows on sideways to the on-coming waves…oh well!

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by Canadian Jet on Feb 9, 2012 5:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm STILL Sick About It

I’m beginning to lose hope in this franchise. At a minimum, I think Tanny needs to go. More than likely, Woody does to. He just doesn’t seem to “get it” that it takes a leader who knows the game to run the team, no some frigging bean counter wannabe.

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by joeklecko on Feb 10, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutely see your point

it really all depends on how the draft goes. the Jets have an interesting spot at 16, and could trade both ways. who knows, they could trade back and instead of Sanu (like in my scenario above) they take Mercilus in the mid 20’s and collect that extra 2nd, and with that extra 2nd and our 4th trade up for a WR who falls out of the first.

either way, i think the Jets come out of this draft a winner. we have a good spot at 16.

by np3 on Feb 8, 2012 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

Bray

I like bringing Bray back if he passes the physical. He was awesome for us and in 2010 had less drops than keller and tone. He made some real good catches and his blocking is good. Plus I think he’ll have a chip on his shoulder for what happened to him last year and wants to prove he can bring it.
WR and RB can be had in the later rounds, it seems that after a top 1 or 2 wr or rb in the draft there is a drop off that you can get a good one in the later rounds. Plug the Oline, get bray, a good young RB and let’s concentrate on defense.

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