Draft By Draft Analysis of Mike Tannenbaum - Pt. 5, 2010
Would trader Mike decide that 2010 was the year to recoup some draft picks to make up for 1 three-player draft in 2009, six-player draft in 2008 and a four-player draft in 2007? No. They had nine picks and traded 5 of them away, leaving them with only 4. Since this was a pretty weak draft, trading up and trading picks wasn't so bad, since many of the players they "missed" out on aren't very good. The jury is still out on Ducasse. Wilson is improving. There are big hopes for McKnight and Conner. While I think Tanny could have done better in this draft, I can't be too critical of him as this was a very weak year for the draft.
2010 Off Season
This was a very active offseason. The Jets seemingly left no stone unturned trying to find talent. They signed 6 players to futures contracts: WR Larry Taylor, P T.J. Conley, LB Josh Mauga, LB Ezra Butler, CB Bo Smith, and WR S.J. Green.
FA: They signed a slew of cheaper FAs to fill holes. Of course, the point can be made that if they had done a better job in the draft and not traded away so many draft picks, they may not have needed to sign all these FAs. They signed LS Tanner Purdum, K Nick Folk, OT Mike Turkovich, S Brodney Pool, RB Ladanian Tomlinson, DL Rodrique Wright, LB Lance Laury, K Clint Stitser, and LB Jason Taylor. There was a long list of FA Safeties that year. Surely the Jets could have found someone better than Pool, Eric Smith and Emmanuel Cook. Among the higher rated FAs that year were AJ Otogwe and Antoine Bethea.
Following the draft, they signed the following UDFAs: DT Mick Williams, CB Donovan Warren (whom they hoped to convert to S), OG Charlie Tanner, WR Philip Kirkland, DE/OLB Kevin Basped, SS Cory Reamer, TE Jeff Cumberland and S Marcus Ezoff.
Later, in May through August, the Jets signed many more FAs and brought in players for tryouts. They included: Keith Buckman, Jason Lamb, Broderick Stewart, Matt Stommes, Ernest Williams, LB Brashton Satele, OG Marlon Davis, C Robby Felix, OT Aaron Kia, DT/DE Simi Toeaina, P/K Jared Ballman, NT Martin Tevaseau, QB Mark Brunell, S Emmanuel Cook, WR Vic Hall, OL Adam Tadisch, LB Tim Knicky, OG Chet Teofilo, LB Boris Lee, WR Brooks Foster, S Keith Fitzhugh, DE Ricky Foley, and Trevor Pryce. They also claimed WR Patrick Turner, OL Patrick Brown, and DL Marcus Dixon.
The Jets re-signed FAs Kellen Clemens, Drew Coleman, Braylon Edwards, Ben Hartsock, Wayne Hunter, James Ihedigbo, Tony Richardson, Eric Smith, and Brad Smith. They chose not to re-sign James Dearth, Marques Douglas, Alan Faneca, Jay Feely, Ryan Fowler, Howard Green, Larry Izzo, Marques Murrell, and Wallace Wright. They released Lito Sheppard, Thomas Jones and Justin Miller.
The Jets wound up with Cody Brown OLB, Shawn Crable OLB, Robby Felix C, Matt Kroul DL, Dennis Landolt G, Logan Payne WR and Brashton Satele ILB on the PS.
Trades: The Jets traded a conditional draft pick (3rd round that could escalate to the 2nd) in the 2011 Draft for Antonio Cromartie. They also traded their 5th round pick in the 2010 draft for Santonio Holmes. They traded Kerry Rhodes to the AZ Cardinals for a 4th round pick in 2010 and a 7th round pick in 2011. They traded Leon Washington and their 2010 7th round pick to Seattle for their 5th round pick.
The Jets traded their 3rd and 5th round picks along with Chansi Stuckey and Jason Trusnick to Cleveland for Braylon Edwards. They traded the 4th round pick they got from AZ along with their 6th round pick to Carolina for Carolina's 4th round pick, which was used to take Joe McKnight.
Draft: Kyle Wilson (1st), Vlad Ducasse (2nd), Joe McKnight (4th), John Conner (5th)
Many Jets fans wanted Taylor Mays. I give credit to Tanny for not trading up or down and taking Mays. The thing that is disconcerting is that Ducasse was a project and was taken in the 2nd round. Tanny said that if Wilson hadn't unexpectedly fallen into their laps that they were prepared to take Ducasse in the first round. That would have been insane. All four players could wind up developing into solid role players or even starters on the team, or Ducasse could wind up being a total bust. Knight could wind up being only a good KR or could wind up being a good playmaker on offense.
What they left on the table: In this case, it doesn't appear to be much aside from a couple of players. Overall, it was a weak draft, but those players they missed are huge. How different would things for the Jets be with Gronkowski and Keller at TE, and NE didn't have Gronk? Even though he may not have the physical ability of Ducasse, what difference would it have made to have Brown at RT instead of Hunter last year? What made trading up and trading picks bad in this draft is that the Jets had had such few picks in the 3 previous drafts. Had the Jets kept some or all of their picks or even acquired additional picks in those drafts, this draft wouldn't be so bad.
Players they bypassed/missed in taking Kyle Wilson: Rob Gronkowski, Sergio Kindle, Koa Misi
Players they bypassed/missed in taking Vlad Ducasse: Charles Brown (RT Saints)
Players they bypassed/missed in trading for Braylon Edwards: Jimmy Graham (TE Saints), Jacoby Ford,
Players they bypassed/missed in trading up for Joe McKnight: Kam Chancellor (SS Seattle),
There may be other players who would be solid depth or role players, but I didn't recognize most of the names.
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I wanted us to take
Jerry Hughes but I glad I’m not GM because I would’ve been upset with myself!!
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This was a weak class in general and its still early so it's hard to be upset or judgmentalal of it
but you still have to start questioning a little bit. Was tannenbaum really willing to take a project with a first round pick? That is absolutely insane. I mean I don’t even think a 2nd or 3rd rounder should be used for project players. If he really thought there was absolutely nobody worth taking other than some projects than trade the selection for a pick in next years draft so you have more to work with when the talent is better, not reach for players who don’t deserve to be picked that high.
Agreed
The first three rounds of the draft are not for projects, I don’t care how talented they are. Those rounds are for starters, players who play a lot as part of a rotation, or designated roles such as nickle or dime CB, and very good backups.
2 of the 6 drafts that Tanny has overseen have been weak drafts. Did he trade any picks for a pick the following year? No, he just traded up instead. He got some very good and a great player or two that way, but could very easily have gotten more good players by trading for a pick or picks in future drafts.
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We can't do this again.
We need our picks from rounds 1-3—maybe even 4—to be able to contribute right away. Not start, necessarily, or be fully-developed, but able to contribute. Projects need to come from rounds 5 and down at positions of lesser need or future potential gaps created by free agency.
If any trading of picks happens, it needs to be DOWN to get more picks. This is a draft full of solid OL, LB and WR prospects. It’s also a draft with very few obvious supposed superstar caliber players. There is NO need to reach.
How different would things for the Jets be with Gronkowski and Keller at TE, and NE didn’t have Gronk?
Many would be complaining about how we wasted a pick on Gronkowski and blaming him for Sanchez’s lack of development since he probably wouldn’t be productive with the offense and QB we have.
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Perhaps
But most certainly his potential would have shown through, he wouldn’t have been putting up record-breaking numbers for the Pats, and quite likely, the Pats wouldn’t be in the Super Bowl. Most likely, Gronk would be a great fit in this new offense of Sparano’s.
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how would he be blamed for his lack of development?
obviously his numbers wouldn’t be as good, but I highly doubt he’d make Sanchez any worse.
I Think John B
may have meant that due to Schotty’s crappy offense and play-calling, that Gronk wouldn’t have developed and fans would blame him rather than Schotty, but I may be wrong. John B, what say you?
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Kind of. In this offense with this quarterback, Gronk’s numbers wouldn’t be very good. There seems to be an element of the fanbase that blames Sanchez’s lack of development on his receivers so I’d guess people would lump Gronk in if he was a Jet.
Klecko hits on a key point in one of his comments. I think the Jets taking Gronkowski would actually have impacted the Patriots more than the Jets.
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John B
Thanks for the clarification, but I’m still unclear on one point. When you say, “in this offense” (bolding mine), are you referring to the offense that Schotty ran with the Jets, or the offense that Sparano ran with Miami and/or is likely to run some version of with the Jets?
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Shouldn't Victor Cruz,
although an UDFA in 2010, nevertheless be included in the bypassed/missed list?
Yes, Definitely
There are probably lots of other good players I didn’t include as well. Perhaps I listened too much to some criticism following some of my earlier posts regarding cherry picking, but I’m trying to keep the posts to somewhat reasonable length. A lot more research could have been done and a lot of additional players listed. Time is an issue for me, so am doing the best I can under the circumstances.
Thanks for mentioning Cruz.
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