Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Devils Beat Rangers, Head To Stanley Cup Finals

Draft By Draft Analysis of Mike Tannenbaum - Pt. 4, 2009

2008 was the turning point for the Jets franchise and Tanny. Would that trend of going "all in" to "win now" continue in 2009, or would Tanny attempt to trade back and recoup some draft picks to compensate for the 4-player draft in 2007? Would the Jets make an FA moves that would help? Follow after the jump to find out.

Star-divide

2009 Off Season

Mangini was fired. After a pretty good search, Rex Ryan was hired as the new HC. Rex wasn't allowed to hire his OC of choice, Hue Jackson, but rather had to keep Brian Schottenheimer.

FA: The Jets restructured Laveranues Coles contract to allow him to leave as a UFA. They also didn't re-sign K Mike Nugent and allowed him to sign with Tampa Bay.

On 2/27 the Jets signed Ravens' FA Bart Scott to a contract, and on March 3 the Jets signed Ravens FA Jim Leonard to a contract. Rex wanted these two to help teach the Jets' D players his system and to provide leadership.

Eventually, the Jets also added Aundrae Allison, Ben Hartsock, Matthew Mulligan, Larry Izzo, Kevin O'Connell, Donald Strickland and the following players to their PS: Kenwin Cummings ILB, Jason Davis FB, Keith Fitzhugh S, Matt Kroul DE, Ryan McKee OT, Jack Simmons TE, and Danny Woodhead RB. Cummings and Woodhead were the best, and unfortunately, neither is still with the team.

Trades: On 2/28 the Jets traded with the Eagles for CB Lito Sheppard, sending Philly their 5th round pick in the 2009 draft and a conditional pick in the 2010 draft. That pick could be as high as a 2nd and as low as a 4th. On 10/7 the Jets traded for WR Braylon Edwards, sending the Browns players Jason Trusnik and Chansi Stuckey and two draft picks. So Trader (or should that be Traitor?) Mike was back in action signing older FAs and trading draft picks for older, so-so players.. Edwards was a good player for the Jets, but would have been unnecessary had Tanny drafted wiser/better in earlier drafts.

Draft: Mark Sanchez (1st), Shonn Greene (#3), Matt Slauson (#6).

Prior to the draft, the Jets basically had their full compliment of picks. The conditional pick that they had given GB for Favre wound up being their 3rd round pick, but the conditional pick they got from the Saints for Vilma turned out being a 3rd round pick. Their pick in the first round was #17. Had they not made the trade for Favre, they would have had 8 picks. If they already had their QB in place, they could have traded down 2 spots and garnered an additional pick, giving them 9. Instead they wound up with 3 lousy picks.

Because Tanny had done a poor job of addressing the QB position, Favre was one and done with the Jets, leaving for Minny, Clemens had proven that he wasn't the guy, and there were no quality FA QBs, the Jets were forced to take a QB in this draft. They could have stayed put at #17 and hoped that Sanchez would fall to them or taken Josh Freeman. Had they already had Schaub or Garcia in the fold, THEY could have traded down with Tampa Bay and acquired Tampa Bay's 1st (#19) and 6th (#191) round picks. Instead, Tanny traded their 1st & 2nd round picks, Kenyon Coleman, Abram Elam, and Brett Ratliff to Cleveland for the Browns' #5 pick and drafted Mark Sanchez.

On the beginning of the 2nd day of the draft, the Jets traded their #3, #4 and #7 picks to Detroit for their #3 pick. The Jets took Shonn Greene.

The 5th round pick went for Lito Sheppard.

What they left on the table:

Players they bypassed/missed in trading up for Sanchez: In the 1st round - Jeremy Maclin WR (the Jets were supposedly very high on Maclin and Maclin would have filled a big need), Robert Ayers OLB (many Jets fans wanted Ayers to address their need at OLB since Gholston was definitely looking like a bust), Brandon Pettigrew TE (addressing the 2nd TE spot opposite Keller, would have given them a big target and better blocker than Keller), Percy Harvin WR (dynamic playmaker the offense was lacking), Clay Matthews (was a very highly-rated prospect and had great bloodlines, would have addressed that OLB pass rushing need).

I also remember a number of Jets fans wanting the team to trade down towards the bottom of the first round where they could have acquired a 2nd round pick and taken WR Hakeem Nicks, DT/DE Ziggy Hood, WR Kenny Britt, or S prospect Louis Delmas. Those were the players I saw mentioned most often if the Jets traded down.

In the 2nd round - Andy Levitre OG, LeSean McCoy RB, William Moore S (all addressing needs)

Players they bypassed/missed in trading up for Greene: Brandon Tate WR, Mike Wallace WR, Austin Collie WR, Johnny Knox WR, Kevin Huber P, Davon Drew TE, Scott McKillop ILB, Thomas Morstead P, Chris Clemons FS, Michael Hamlin FS

IMO this draft was only marginally better, and in some ways worse than 2008. At least in 2008 Tanny came away with 6 prospects, and this was a stronger deeper draft at more positions. In this draft he could have come away with as many as 9 perhaps with just one trade down, yet traded up TWICE and came away with only 3 players. While all three of those players are still on the team and starters, many, if not most Jets fans think all three are very replaceable players and that both Sanchez and Greene should definitely be upgraded. Looking at the list of players the Jets could have come away from this draft with is sickening. Their draft could have looked like this:

1 - Jeremy Maclin WR or Clay Matthews OLB or Josh Freeman QB

2 - Andy Levitre OG

3a -Mike Wallace WR

3b (from Saints) - Johnny Knox

4 - Davon Drew TE

5 - Kevin Huber P

6 - Matt Slauson

7 - Lydon Murtha OT

Comment 16 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

More from Gang Green Nation

Flight Connections 05-26-12

May 2012 by dvdvil - 1 comment

Flight Connections 05-25-12

May 2012 by dvdvil - 11 comments

Flight Connections 05-24-12

May 2012 by dvdvil - 17 comments

Flight Connections 05-23-12

May 2012 by dvdvil - 11 comments

Flight Connections 05-22-12

May 2012 by dvdvil - 10 comments

Flight Connections 05-21-12

May 2012 by dvdvil - 10 comments

Comments

Display:

I can tell you one thing though. This was not a draft to be picking a QB.

I will admit it anyways. I originally wanted us to draft Freeman in the first round to compete with Clemens after Favre retired.

We could’ve had Jarius Byrd (S) at pick 17 if we stayed still. That would’ve filled our need at Safety even though we had Rhodes. We would’ve had great depth that year at safety.

Born a Jet. Die a Jet. On XBOX Madden 2012. I Play like a Jet!!!

by oneg82 on Feb 2, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

but the bottom line is..

we made the AFC championship. it so easy to look back on it now and say oh we could of had so and so, but really you never know what you have. Jets needed a QB and traded which ultimately pretty much was just a 2nd round pick and a swap of our first, because all those players in the trade wouldn’t have started anyway.

sure we could have gotten Harvin or Wallace, but we had no QB and just traded for Braylon who turned out to be good.. and Pettigrew in the first round after we traded up for Keller the year before? fans would have been pissed off completely.

we had the number 1 ranked defense in the league and nearly went to the Super Bowl. i wouldn’t say it was a terrible off season.

by np3 on Feb 2, 2012 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

i wouldn’t say it was a terrible off season.

3 draft picks is a horrible offseason even though we picked up Edwards. Also we still wondering if 2 of those 3 picks were worth it (Sanchez, Greene)

Born a Jet. Die a Jet. On XBOX Madden 2012. I Play like a Jet!!!

by oneg82 on Feb 2, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

the general idea of the FO seems to be quality over quantity

and we got three starters in that draft, i wouldn’t say it was horrible.

by darshv3 on Feb 2, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Three picks would be a great Draft if Sanchez and Greene were as good as advertised. It’s about effectiveness. Even though I think Greene gets too much criticism, it’s tough to defend giving up that much of the Draft for him.

Editor-In-Chief
Gang Green Nation
SB Nation's Jets Blog
http://www.ganggreennation.com

by John B on Feb 2, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Mangini gave us a hell of a deal value wise to move up to the 5th overall pick...

I almost think we gave up more for Greene then we did for Sanchez…considering we picked up our starting guard in the 6th. Those 4th and 5th round picks coyld have given us some valuable depth.

by RhodesRocks on Feb 3, 2012 8:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

+1 john b

especially considering we passed on so many good RB’s the year b4 . if we had to give up all that for forte we would all be saying tanny was a genius.

follow me on TWITTER @tinley24
i want jeffery in green at pick 16

Notre Dame vs. Navy: The Emerald Isle Classic
Date:Sept. 1, 2012
Location:Dublin, Ireland

by tinley24 on Feb 3, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Just out of curiosity,

how much does Joey Clinkscales play into all of this? I know he has nothing to do, at all, with FA’s, salary cap, trades and what not, but he is in charge of the draft no? Maybe he, or the scouts he employs, aren’t hitting on there evaluation.

by Clarke W. Griswald on Feb 3, 2012 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

Good Question

Clinkscales and the Jets’ Scouting Dept. has to take at least some share of the blame, unless Tanny just totally ignores what they have to say or perhaps Rex disagrees with what Clinkscales and his scouts say and Tanny sides with Rex.

The fact that Clinkscales got an interview for the GM position with the Rams would seem to indicate that at least some people in the NFL respect his work, and he’s been with the Jets a LONG time since before Parcells. If the problem was him, I’d think he’d have been fired by now. Parcells probably would have if he didn’t think Clinkscales was good.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Alexander Tyler

by joeklecko on Feb 3, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you think this draft is a make-or-break season for Tanny?

P.S. I love posts like this, that not everyone agrees with. It sparks discussions and outside of the box thinking.

by Clarke W. Griswald on Feb 3, 2012 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

I think it should be a make or break season for pretty much everybody. From the GM to the HC to the QB. Another playoff less season and those three might be goners.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Feb 3, 2012 2:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Definitely

If he doesn’t address ALL the holes in some form or fashion and succeed in shoring up the OL (RT), improving the pass rush and the Jets’ ability to cover TEs and RBs over the middle, I think he should fired in the most embarrassing manner possible, preferably on national television. LOL

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Alexander Tyler

by joeklecko on Feb 3, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Great POST JoeK......so dam scary now to think about what could have been........

As darshv3 pointed out and I have said in other posts…Tanny is on record in the last 2 wks. of saying he prefers “Quality over Quantity” in the draft. I’m somewhat worried he’d pull a “Ditka” and screw with the team to get the Rams 2nd pick. As the old saying stands “the leopards doesn’t change his spots” or whatever…I just can’t see Tanny doing a trade straight up without moving some pieces around. It should be really interesting to see what he gets up to starting March 13th and just how successful he is at it. If he strikes out on Free Agency then all bets are off I bet he swings for the fences to make headlines in New York.

"It's only through change we learn to grow".

by Canadian Jet on Mar 4, 2012 4:47 AM EST reply actions  

Great Post JoeK......so dam scary now to think about what could have been........

As darshv3 pointed out and I have said in other posts…Tanny is on record in the last 2 wks. of saying he prefers “Quality over Quantity” in the draft. I’m somewhat worried he’d pull a “Ditka” and screw with the team to get the Rams 2nd pick. As the old saying stands “the leopards doesn’t change his spots” or whatever…I just can’t see Tanny doing a trade straight up without moving some pieces around. It should be really interesting to see what he gets up to starting March 13th and just how successful he is at it. If he strikes out on Free Agency then all bets are off I bet he swings for the fences to make headlines in New York.

"It's only through change we learn to grow".

by Canadian Jet on Mar 4, 2012 4:47 AM EST reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about the New York Jets.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Rackmultipart
GGN Thread About Nothing #18 Enter Sandman
545595_428600250485671_100000070982458_1739202_129649609_n_1_small
5 players that i expect to see improvement from this year
P3733056reg_small
Why will Aaron Maybin get 10-20 sacks this season.
Small
Do You Trust The Jets' Front Office?
Small
Diggin Dunbar Diggin the 46

Recent FanPosts

P3733056reg_small
My Life as a New York Jets Fan.
Small
Conner can run
Small
Thoughts on the upcoming season part 1: What to watch for
Small
Thoughts On the Upcoming Season Part 2: The season
Small
Thoughts On the Upcoming Season Part 3: Cleaning House
Small
The Peyton-Goes-Down Debacle Prequel, and the Best QB Some of You Never Heard Of.

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managing Editors

Gangreen-large_small John B

Great-british-events-flag_small David_Wyatt

Staff Writers

Revis_island_small Bro Namath

943_small dvdvil

Wayne_chrebet1_small GangGreenMag

Haters_small bobdolethesnapplelady

Santana_moss_small Jeff W.

Moderators

Revis_christ_small Judgegavel

Return_of_the_jet-i_small MachlinT

Jimmy2_small Tamarack

Rackmultipart rexthejet