Jets Formally Announce Coaching Changes
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Feb 13, 2012 7:24 PM EST
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PrintThe New York Jets have announced that Bob Sutton, the linebackers coach, has been promoted to assistant head coach, replacing Bill Callahan in that position. He will retain his linebacker duties along with Mike Smith. Karl Dunbar is now officially the new defensive line coach, replacing Mark Carrer. Lance Taylor is the assistant TE/quality control coach. Finally, Matt Cavanaugh will return to the team as the quarterbacks coach.
Sutton's promotion is interesting as he replaces Bill Callahan. I suspect the move was done to anchor him to the team and make him less likely to leave. Dunbar's hiring isn't surprising since we've known it for so long. However, Matt Cavanaugh's return is. The more I think about it, the less upset I am with this move. Part of that is because we don't know how much of the last few seasons was due to him vs. Brian Schottenheimer. Another is because after Eli Manning goes on record explaining how much continuity with his OC helped him, I'd like to see some with Mark Sanchez. Sanchez has had a new receiving corps every year, and in a year where he's losing his OC, it may not be the worst thing to have someone there to guide him throughout the whole process.
In any case, let us know what you think below.
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Sonofamother
Cav is coming back? Argh!
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Really Angers me they kept the same QB coach
I don’t care about his track record, even though I hear its bad. When the QB struggles to the point of regression, there has to be a change. I never even seen this guy working with Sanchez during games. You know, showing film, helping him learn to read defenses. Why?
by BIG OH!!!!! on Feb 13, 2012 7:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hire Chad Penny
On paper make him the assistant QB coach. He’ll have a bigger impact than Cav. Then quietly move Cav out.
I understand your rational about keeping him, but he’s GOT TO GO!!!!!!
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VERY GLAD - We've got a real D Line Coach
Welcome Mr. Dunbar. Looking forward to really good things from your squad.
Is Carrier being reassigned within the staff? Just curious – assistant DB coach is right up his alley.
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Which is what he should have been all along.
He was a DB in college and in the pros. What possessed anyone to think he was a DL coach? I never understood that.
Dunbar is used to coaching lineman in a 4-3 not a 3-4 alignment. I wonder how much should be read into that?
by Traveling Man on Feb 13, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t get all the hate for Carrier. Who said you have to have played a position to be able to coach it? Wilkerson had a very good rookie year, and Devito came along really well under him. I think Dunbar is an excellent replacement, but Carrier was one of the better coaches we had.
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Continuity for continuity's sake is lazy and just bad.
You want continuity when you’ve got a good thing going. Like starting Wayne Hunter last year—it was a good idea in theory. He ended up sucking, but at the time the decision was made he had the experience and chemistry with the rest of the line, which was a strength of ours back then. It also would have been a good idea to maintain continuity in the WR corps instead of literally having 0 WRs on the roster today from Sanchez’s first year. Cavanaugh meanwhile has given us no indication of being good at his job ever. Soooooo… Wtf?
by Exystence on Feb 13, 2012 8:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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Continuity means nothing if its crappy.
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I see no hope for Sanchez next year.
I can’t believe Sparano would have wanted Cavanaugh. Cavanaugh is one of the ultimate examples of how the old boy coaching network operates in the NFL. No matter how bad you are, if you’ve managed to survive over a number of years, someone somewhere will give you a job. As far back as I can remember, after a mediocre – to put it kindly – career in the NFL, he has been a below average QB and OC both at the college and the pro levels. He is this generations Jerry Rome, for old-timers like me who can remember that far back. This does not bode well for the future.
Here's how I see it:
Sutton – cool
Dunbar – really cool
Cav – WTFUDGE
Now can we have Braylon back?
WhyTF would they keep this freaking bum???
He hasn’t done a GD thing to earn the right to be Mark’s mentor.
Cavanagh
has been a failure everywhere he has been so keeping him for continuities sake makes no sense. Trent Dilfer, Rich Gannon and Steve Young have all said that Sanchez is poorly coached. If these guys can see it why cant anyone in our idiotic organization see the same thing.
Other than Todd Haley the other guys we were rumored to be considering in David Lee and karl Dorrell are in the same class as Cavanagh which shows we dont know what we are doing. Dorrell is like Carrier in that he was a wide receiver who just coached QBs for the first time last year. Lee is another guy that hasnt developed QBs well either.
Hue Jackson coached with Rex in Baltimore and has years of experience working with QBs. There is no explanation why we didnt hire him other than the organization being cheap or just too stupid to realize that a guy like him could help Sanchez out. Why draft a QB with the 5th overall pick and pay him all this money when you are unwilling to get him the right coaching. This is just another example of why this is a bad organization.
I'm wondering if the FA the Jets are really looking at is Mario Williams, not Peyton.
Hiring Dunbar, who specializes in 4 man D-lines, makes me think that is going to be the emphasis. And, in the unlikely event that Tanny can free up enough cap space, they could be going that way, rather than spend it on Peyton. I’m also wondering if there will be a Jimmy Clausen sighting if Carolina cuts him, as expected.
There Damn Well Better Not Be
Claussen sucks balls. If the Jets sign Claussen, I’m really gonna bail on this effing team.
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Jets talked to at least 5 different people I know of to be their QB coach. Stunning, and counterproductive, that Matt Cavanaugh is back.
If true, very interesting. Was it the conditions that made those coaches not accept the job? Was it having to work with Sanchez? Was it having to work with Sparano (a basically inexperience, unknown quantity as an OC)? Was it having to work with Rex? Some combination of the above?
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If true, then Sanchez is the most likely reason.
Unless these were guys like Hue Jackson that did not want to take such a drastic step backwards, or they got a higher position, like Haley or Daboll. Because the QB coach is usually the guy under the OC, so he knows what his role is. But the fact that no one wanted such a high profile job just adds more weight to the opinions expressed by other people around the NFL, as well as the talking heads, that Sanchez does not have what it takes to be a leading franchise QB in this era of the passer.
by Traveling Man on Feb 14, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Or that they just didn’t like any of the candidates.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Feb 14, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Personally I don't think his QB coach would really make that much of a difference
His problems lie in some really fundamental things that I think just about anyone could help him out with, and that even he can help himself out with.
Dont blame Sanchez
for why we are stuck with Cavanagh. I dont think Haley or Jackson would take the job as QB coach when both are better OC than Sparano. We needed to hire one of those two as coordinator and then Sparano could have taken the oline coach job.
As for Sanchez not having what it takes if you listen to the likes of Phil Simms or Steve Young they have both said that Sanchez has tremendous talent but is poorly coached. He played one season at USC so he really needed top notch coaching to get the best out of him. Instead we have stuck him with terrible coaches and that has not changed. I for one wanted no part of Sparano but putting that aside the guy has no experience working with QBs. To get the best out of this offense we need Mark Sanchez to realize his potential and its very difficult to expect that when he is being coached by Cavanagh and Sparano who is an oline coach.
Mark has many great attributes that people seem to forget. He has played his best football in the 4th qtr when we are down and he doesnt have to worry about making mistakes. That should tell us that he has that clutch factor which is so important.
I honestly believe that this organization has held down Sanchez and he wont fully put it all together until he has a new head coach. They have drilled it into him that he must not mistakes and that has made him apprehensive and actually caused more errors. When he just goes out there when we are down late and he has to make plays he has often done so. If Rex is so set on having a game manager as our QB we had no business drafting Sanchez 5th overall and paying him all this money. As long as Rex is our head coach we will never have excellent play from our QB since the coach wont let him make plays.
Steve Young pointed out how defensive head coaches hurt the chances of a QB becoming successful. The same reason we dont really know about Flacco is why we dont have a real read on Sanchez. Defensive teams dont allow the QB to play fast and free and this is a good reason why this team hasnt been good offensively since 1998. Al Groh, Herman Edwards, Eric Mangini and now rex Ryan are all defenisve minded coaches who want conservative offenses which is what we have had for many years now. When we fire Rex after next season I hope we only look at offensive minded head caching candidates such as Todd Haley and Rob Chudzinski.
by bklynbrewcrew on Feb 14, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
When did I ever say Sanchez doesn't have what it takes?
I’ve always supported Sanchez, and still do. I really do think he has what it takes to be a great quarterback for this team. I just pointed out that I think some of his flaws are really fundamental things that can be fixed with some practice. As for game managers having a limited ceiling, Matt Ryan sucks when he doesn’t hand the ball off 20 times a game, as does Joe Flacco. Nobody questions their talent (okay, maybe Flacco) and they’re about to get Franchise QB contract extensions. Ben Roethlisberger was that kind of QB too for the first several years of his career. Hell, Even Tom Brady always had his star studded Defense and Kevin Faulk to fall back on for the first 5 or 6 years of his career.
My comment
was not meant for any person in particular. I was just pointing out that I think Sanchez’ problems are fixable but not by Cavanagh. Its quite upsetting that we traded up to draft a QB and have not given him the best chance to succeed.
by bklynbrewcrew on Feb 14, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
All we can do is hope for the best
I think his struggles were largely a part of the offense’s ineptitude in general, nobody on our offense really played well last year, or at least as well as they were capable of playing, be it Sanchez, Greene, Holmes, Keller, or Brick. Let’s just hope a new OC and a fresh start can help us out.
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