Rex Ryan - A Perspective
I posted something similar to this last year and sparked a lot of discussion around the viewpoints of long time Jets fans who were very passionate about wanting to win a Super Bowl now. Having the mind set that we are a "win now" team and that they are tired of waiting. Discussions around how it has been over 40 years since we stepped foot in the big game and that is unacceptable. Hype around Rex Ryan and his brash statements amping us all up that we were going to make it to the Super Bowl the last three years only to come up a game short the last two years and completely empty this season.
I'd like to bring this topic to light once again and see where the viewpoints stand a year later now that we had an even worse season than last year. So I pose this question to you all fellow Jets fans. How good or bad has Rex Ryan really been for this franchise so far? Do you feel that this last season far outweighs what he has accomplished the last two seasons? I've seen some posts actually calling for his head on a plate already. I've read a lot of articles, naturally, stating that it's time for him to finally keep his mouth quiet. Articles all three years stating he's too vocal, too brash, takes too much on his shoulders, brings too much attention to the team. All this turmoil this year that he should have quashed as a head coach, how much of an active approach as a coach he should have taken. When to be fair, when to be firm. All these ups and downs. Where do you stand?
More perspective after the jump...
I for one am elated we have Rex Ryan as a head coach. I feel he's the best this team has had and seen since the Parcells era and I'm not just looking at records for that. Although I might point out that this is the first time in club history that we have ended 2nd in the division 3 straight seasons (keeping in mind2 of those seasons did take us to the Championship games) . Winning our division is extremely tough. It always has been. In 48 years we've taken that crown 4 times?
I find Rex has an aura about him. One that has sparked life into the brand of this team. His brash mouth, his style, his abbrassivness has definately brought the name of the New York Jets back into the NFL. I'm the type of person who will look at a schedule and just see the team name and say... that'll be a tough game or that should be an easy win. Not even really thinking about who is on the roster. Just thinking about the last year or so of how they played. Obviously things change from season to season and you can go from a 1-15 team to a 9-7 team as we did back in the late 90s but typically you can tell a bump in the road team fairly easily. The Jets (in my humble opinion) have often been known to be one of those "bump in the road teams" a team that could be considered a "trap game" but not a game where other teams feel threatened. Not a team that other teams fan bases actually have to worry about. I feel that every team goes through this but not as long and often as I feel we do and have. I feel Rex has changed that mentality in the NFL about the Jets.
I'm not saying teams fear us. And yes, maybe teamsand fanbase really dislike us. Some of you even hate Rex's mouth. I for one Love it. He has made me so excited to be a Jets fan again. He's sparked so much life into being a fan. Even in a season where we had, what seemed like more downs than ups, I believed until the last minute we had a chance and that we were a good team. Even now I am confident we're going to have a good off season. (little concerned that Hunters not gone yet though). But I do believe Rex is a good leader. I believe people love to play for him. I think he did lose control this season which is very easy to do when you're his type of leader.
He is what you call a "situational leader". Someone who tries to balance being a leader and being a friend. He tries to be fair but firm. Which in my opinion is the best kinda a leader to be but the hardest kind of leader to master because its so easy to fail at. The problem came when he became too trusting. Too trusting in Schotty. Too trusting in his captains. In his QB. In his "leaders". He lost control. We'll see how he responds to that next season but don't be suprised if he comes out guns blazing. The Jet team is his baby and he's building it. He will take this failure more personally than not reaching the super bowl the last 2 years. I believe we will see more of a firm approach this year with his guys and they will respect him more for it because he will learn to balance that with his "fairness".
Filling the holes in the off season is paramount but it's not just giving Sanchez the weapons he needs to be successful... it's giving Rex the arsenal he needs to win his war and get us our much needed trophy.
Have you lost faith in Rex even though we have actually been extremely successful with him because of this last season or do you still think he can turn things around? Do you agree that he's a situational leader? Do you really think he was the big problem and should have changed his coaching style to something he just isn't to put his players in place and would it have worked? Was 8-8 this year that terrible given 9-7 might have been enough? Do you take it season by season or do you look at 40+ years as now is the time and enough is enough we must win now?
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Yes great post
Honestly I do wish he would tone down the mouth just a little. Not a whole lot, but just a little. He tends to get to sounding like a big buffoon at times
I don't know what to think
I keep going back to the pre season and what little the Jets did to improve the team. I still remember when Rex named Eric Smith as the starting safety. That and the Lowery trade had me wondering WTF is going on over there. Now was that Rex thinking he could get the best out any player or was it Tanny and Woody not wanting to spend money besides going for Nnamdi. If it was the latter, then I’ll give Rex a pass.
I think it was the fact they were trying to save money for Nnamdi.
Going all out for Nnamdi probably caused us to forget about the other needs, and go cheap in other places.
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by greenandwhite4ever on Feb 11, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I was just talking to my friends about this. Most of my friends go into games assuming they have a 50/50 shot at winning. Ever since Rex Ryan took over, I go into EVERY game about 90% sure that we will win, 80% against the Patriots. Even this past season, with Rex at the helm, I still firmly believe every week that we have a great shot at winning, no matter how good the opponent is. And that’s what Rex does for both fans and players. He makes it fun.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Feb 10, 2012 7:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree Bob… for me it’s so much more than the actual record and what we see in the scrutiny. It’s the confidence this man instills in, not just the players, but in us as fans. I watch these games and say we should really win this game. Whether we do or not is another story sometimes. How much of it really is Rex though. How much do we really know? Big OH has good questions.. how much of what we did, or didn’t do for that matter was Rex? Was it? You would think that cuz Nnamdi is a corner and that just screams Rex but it just as easily could have been Tanny and Woody saying let’s make a splash, we got Holmes let’s get Nnamdi… or Tanny saying… I you want him Rex I’ll get him! And not backing off… we just don’t know.
And for me personally I’ve said it numerous times… yeah I gotta see a trophy but there are 31 other teams out there saying the same thing no matter how many years it’s been since they’ve seen a trip to the bowl. To me it’s a game and it needs to be fun. And fun in my book personally is… winning record… beat the Pats… make a good run for it. Something to be proud of. This year.. I can’t say it was a winning record… we certainly didn’t beat the Pats.. and it’s really debatable whether we actually made a run for it so I’d normally be on the fence this year but there were variables… 3 game away stretch with an injured Mangold playing the Ravens and the Pats during it. The Broncos Game where we actually played pretty stout and then just crumbled to Tebow Time in the last 30 seconds. And well i can’t really make valid excuses… this year… it’s just not really working… but even that Dolphins game i had extra T.V.s going watching Tennesee thinking we still had a chance.
You hit the nail dead on. He makes me believe again. I’d really be curious to see an actual poll to see if fanbase has increased in the last 3 years and if they can correlate that to wins or visibility because Rex does make the Jets more visible. It’s a thin line between the two I know but you know what I’m getting at.
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In all honesty, I haven't been a Jets fan for very long (since 07), so I can't relate to many of you
But I love Rex. I think he’s a much better coach than other fans and analysts give him credit for, and he’s really changed the culture of the New York Jets. I wouldn’t rather have anyone else as this team’s head coach. And that’s not just based on win-loss records, that’s based on everything else he’s brought to this team.
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A team (usually) bebenfits from long tenured head coach
If you look at successful franchises, they generally have a head coach in place for a while. We need to get there and Rex is a good candidate for the job. He improves a mediocre defense. He just needs to tweak his style a little and find an offense. 9-7, 11-5, 8-8. Thats fine by me with a rookie to young QB. Just keep it going.
Check Coughlin’s record with the Giants. Its up and down but he has two rings. Check Peyton Mannings record. Great win-loss but not great in the playoffs. Continuity is important. Nothing is a guarantee but with that continuity you can have that “break-through” season. Rex can give us that break-through one year.
You got it.
I am sick and tired of 3 or 4 years and on to the next coach, who will then turn over the roster to get rid of the guys who got old under the previous coach’s “win now” mantra or don’t fit the new system, have a little success, try to “win now” themselves, and then leave. This is a recipe for mediocrity.
In general, I don’t like brash coaches and players. I find “Hey, everybody, I tackled a guy after a four-yard gain!” dances annoying. Rex is most definitely not my style and I find the team somewhat boring to watch sometimes.
But Rex is who he is, and he has brought energy and an identity to the team. I think he will be here a long time, I think he will bring a lot of great wins and memories, and I think—stop me now—he will bring Super Bowl wins. (Yes, plural.) He’s a young coach and he will learn to strike the required balance. We under-estimate it sometimes, but he has accomplished a lot in only three years, and I think he will get better and mature over time.
More than anyone else I can remember, Rex has made himself synonymous with his team. We saw how this can backfire this year. But, hey, it takes guts—a lot more than a lot of coaches show. I respect him for that and will always defend him for it. And until he consistently fails to perform, he’ll have my support.
While It Is Certainly True
that stability is important, prior to Rex which HC would you have had the Jets stick with long term? Herm? Mangini? Rich Kotite? Joe Walton? Bruce Coslet? Unfortunately, other than Weeb, the Jets have never had a HC good enough to allow for continuity and stability. As it is, some of those boobs stayed way too long. I definitely believe he can succeed IF Tanny either starts doing a much better job of building the team, or Woody wises up, hires a football man as President, has him run the franchise, and Woody butts out. Almost certainly , that President would tell Tanny to shape up or he’s gonna ship him out. Unless that happens, Rex is always gonna be fighting an uphill battle. Look at how long he had to deal with that moron Schottenheimer thanks to Tanny.
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He gives us hope.
Rex is a very competitive guy. I know he was watching the Super Bowl and seething inside. Watching our hated team and our “Big Brother” play for the trophy he promised. Every team has a hiccup year. I believe with the short off-season and going after Nnamdi it caused us to go cheap in other places and relied on players that were not starting quality. I know Rex knows that if he does not right the ship this year he maybe gone. I remember when we were going to play Indy in the ‘10 playoffs he said that he never beat Payton Manning and that that game was personnal. Then went into Indy focused on beating Payton which they did. Then they went to NE, our hated rivals and lit a fire under the players that helped them win that game. That game was also personnal because his famous quote when he got the job was "I’m not here to kiss Belichek rings" Rex is tried of the Patriots like we all are and is focused on knocking them out. I can say that i have a good feeling that he is going into this season taking it personnaly and demand the best out of his team next year. Nobody is favoring us to win the whole thing let alone winning the AFC east. Everybody thinks that were almost out of it. No hope. I believe Rex wants it that way. A message he is probably telling his players “Its us against the world! We will shock the world!!” Rex is also a defensive genius. It’s probably eating him up that the defense preformed so poorly. So i bet he is going to kick their ass and bring in the players that he knows can get the job done. With Rex i know that he cares, I have a feeling that he will work day in and out to be #1. He is a prideful person. He wants to win. He is a winner. There could be a point that his father used to coach here and helped brought home a super bowl. This team may mean that much to him. I have a good feeling that this season was good for us to find our weakness and learn from it. These players know how it feels to sit at home, now next season they will vow not to have that feeling again. Rex will get this team back on track.
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by greenandwhite4ever on Feb 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST reply actions
Ever since he got hired...
my very thought has been this is our guy. It wasn’t just that he is a defensive mind (which is the type of coach I prefer) it’s also the lively character. He seemed to breath life into the team and the fanbase. People hate our team now but there is the belief out there that if other teams hate you then you must be doing something right. I think there is something to be said about the fact that although people will argue that we didn’t deserve to be there during the AFC championship game runs that Rex had our team prepared to go out and beat supposedly “superior” teams. Although this season was not our best Rex tends to have us in postition to be the best suited to beat the Pats. Before Rex (back to ‘03) we only beat the Pats twice. This season being the exception we matchup great with the Pats and honestly with Rex taking back some of the Defensive responsibility I think it’s just a matter of time before we take the Pats twice in regular season play. I won’t lie…I’m an optimist when it comes to our team but more than any other recent coach of the Jets Rex inspires confidence in what this team can be. He is still a first time head coach and he is still learning so hopefully he is only just getting started what with what will be a extremely successful career as head coach for the Jets!
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I still think he’s our guy. I don’t like how reluctant he seems to be to identify and fix personnel issue. That’s my only complaint.
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Except for Kerry Rhodes which he seemed to have no problem trashing.
by CervezaVerde on Feb 11, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
That was when Rex was more hands-on and involved with the team
This season he thought he needed to be more of a prototypical figurehead-type coach. He’s gonna be more hands-on from now on, which can only be good.
Rex Ryan - A Perspective
Rex wasn’t helped in 2011 by the poor draft and free agent decisions and machinations of Mike Tannebaum. Rex was surely in on the decision-making but my sense is that Tannenbaum wields more power when the axe falls or the the purse opens.
Tanny left the locker room without leaders to face up to Holmes and he put Sanchez in deep jeopardy by thinning the O-line depth. He chased that safety who ended up in Philly and wasted time better spent at other positions. Tannenbaum doesn’t have the management skills he believes he has and the Jets are going to continue to suffer until Woody wises up or Ryan eclipses Tanny’s power in the hierarchy.
That being said, Rex should had covered Mark’s ass when the heat rose early in the season; he should have squelched the crap that Holmes and others spilt over the locker room floor and he should have stopped taunting teams with clearly better talent to prove what we all knew they were capable of.
I love Rex. Love his enthusiasm and his determination. I hate the pressure he creates with his mouth and I think the Jets are beyond having to get credibility by screaming and threatening.
The Jets are talented. They aren’t a Super Bowl team yet but if Rex doesn’t shut up and Tanny isn’t put in his place, together they are going to kill Mark Sanchez and send all of us fans into another season in the playoff wasteland.
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by rdonohue01 on Feb 12, 2012 12:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hope my wife doesn't find out
I LOVE REX!!!!!! Actually I’m sure she knows. She’s a huge Jets fan also.
Like everyone has to do, Rex is still growing into his job. I’m expecting him to be a better coach this year and that little extra should be enough to get us at least to the big dance.
He is the PERFECT guy for NY & for our Beloved.
I expect and hop that he’s our coach for at least the next 15 years, and only retires after his 4th or so NFL championship title.
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by ProfScorpio on Feb 12, 2012 1:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
he is still learning the job
he made some big mistakes on and off the field so far and that needs to stop .
he asks his players and the fans to give 100% but i think rex only gives 85% , he drops the ball to many times for a HC and his last press conference where he said there world be no captains next year still shows the main flaw he has as a HC . he is too paly paly with players and he needs to start cracking the whip more
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I agree with this. I think cracking the whip is definately a requirement but I hope he doesn’t change who he fundamentally is as a coach and a person and come down too hard. He will never be a Tom Coughlin or a Bill Billichick. He will always be a Rex Ryan and his way of coaching, as we’ve heard the last two season made everyone want to play for him and love to play for him… but at the same time this season we saw him WAY too lenient. He has to grow and find that happy medium. He’s got to crack the whip when the whip needs to be cracked. I just don’t want him cracking it when he doesn’t need to because of mess in PR this last season.
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Rex Ryan- A Perspective
Rex Ryan has to understand that reaching the AFC Finals 2 years in a row is NOT the end of the rainbow. He promised Woody Johnson to meet President Obama in the White House. He promised not to be the little brother in New York. He defiantly bragged he was not hired to kiss Bill Belichick’s rings.
Somewhere along the way, he became distracted. He became more of a standup comic than an NFL head coach. He became more of a book writer than an NFL head coach. Instead of a superbowl appearance with his team, he appeared as an actor in an Adam Sandler movie.
Rex Ryan needs to reaffirm his commitment being the head coach of the NY Jets. He has to learn how to coach football again.
Rex's act is starting to get stale
Sorry, but celebrating 2nd place finishes is a frigging joke. Its right up there with being nostalgic for players that used to be here. The Jets are no bump in the road, they are the team that everybody gets up for because of our loud mouth HC.
Confidence is great but you dont see too many teams using Rex’s coaching methods. I wonder why.
When you have guys like JCo and Ihedigbo talking about how different things are done in other places, it makes you wonder just what the hell is going on in our locker room. Rex knows about as much about his locker room as we do, yeah that really great.
I like Rex, I really do but if he doesnt grow up in 2012, he will get run out of town.
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Love Rex.
Always will love Rex. He’s our guy. I love the talk because you know what we’re trying to do. What’s so bad about saying we want to win the super bowl? EVERY team wants to. We’re just more vocal about it because we have one HELL of a man for a head coach. If you don’t like Rex, then I don’t like you. Plain and simple.
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He’s not just saying he wants to win. He says the Jets are going to win and worse. Talk is cheap, low class and immature. Talking tough doesn’t mean crap. We had a President in this country once that talked about walking softly and carrying a big stick. The team should do Rex’s talking for him, not Rex for the team. All he does by running his yap is piss off opponents and make them more determined to beat the Jets. He doesn’t have to say that their goal is to win the SB. That’s every team in the NFL’s goal (at least supposedly). There’s no need to say it. Actions speak louder than words. He needs to do a better job of coaching and prepping his team, and less time in front of cameras.
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