SAME OLD JETS!
by ocjet on Feb 1, 2012 1:41 PM EST
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With all the talk about brings Peyton in I wanted to create a post that has humor and anger about we Jet fans and for our seemingly trying to bring in the same old jets, but not intentionally. I for one don't want us to pursue Peyton or even think of bring him to the Jets. There has been talk that if he passes the physical and Ok to play he would be the one for us. I say he need to fill the holes we have on our team and get some youth back while we are still a strong team. Yes even the good teams have holes to fill also but they play well in spite of their weaknesses and come up big when it counts.
The Pats have been said to have a very weak secondary but they are in the SB, just like the Giants. When the Pats gave up their top picks in recent drafts to get more picks I told myself what are they doing? Then I realized that they want more young talent to develop and I realize if they pull that off they would have gone younger and with talent. Well it seems there plan is working, while we Jets fans are looking to get older for instant glory. We' re getting older and slower on defense, we need help in both sides of the ball and I feel bringing in Peyton will start the mold of same old jets again. We had a good run in 09 and 10 but have to build and develop. Is the FO or us fans not confident in developing good young talent, we were last in drafts picks the last few years. Is our coaching and talent evaluation that bad?
So Peyton you want to become a Jet, no guarantee we can protect you, we could bring in a good line man in FA if you dont cost us too much and even get a good WR for you. We will develop our passing game to suit you and maybe we can work together and do a ground and pound with some of your accurate passing. We know that you are a HOF QB had some awesome teams and its OK that you won a SB even though many said with the team you had you could have been there more. Can you take a chance on us, dont worry that we almost got our QB killed in half the games and our WR are not what you had but we'll try and accomodate you.
Serious neck injury and missed a whole year, its OK with us you pass the physical we're all good. That guy Washington the broke his leg bad we realized he was not as good as you so we let him go because we felt we would not be the same. He's still OK but yes not the same. Your even older than he was but you are Peyton and would do well with the same old jets. Forget the future and youth movement of our team we like you man and want you here, that's if you want us. Just imagine us going to the SB together. Can you please consider joining us and creating the same old jets.
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The SOJ always find a way to lose. Peyton Manning is a winner.
The SOJ never had a franchise QB. Manning is THE franchise QB.
The work ethic. The leadership. The incredible skillset.. And not for nothing, but #18 without the ability to turn his head left or right is still ten times better than the crap we call a QB that half the team doesn’t want to play for anyway. Who incidentally seems incapable of looking left or right either…
So let’s trade our future for a maybe, wasn’t Farve a franchise QB? SOJ let’s get old guys because old guys rule. Screw the young talent we can develop because we don’t have the time.
Our young QB who took us the the AFC finals and almost beat Peyton twice in the playoffs is crap. So let’s get crappier and older because we are the Jets and the FO and us fans can’t wait.
So yes Peyton can you help us out and be our SOJ franchise QB.
The defense and STs were the reason the Jets got to the title games.
Im sure when Favre had us at 8-3, you were one of the fans hating the move.
The reason the Pats and their awful secondary are in the SB and the Jets are sitting home? The HC and the QB. They also had the easiest road to the SB I could ever recall. Two byes in one playoff year is something Ive never seen till this year.
Im not saying I want Peyton, Im not saying I dont but I will say with a QB like Peyton, you dont even need a top 5 defense, because he knows how to play the position and keeps the defense on the sideline and well rested, our QB sadly cannot do that yet.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
So it was defense that scored all those points? It was the defense that threw that pass to Braylon against Indy to set up a game winning field goal? It was the special teams that threw that diving catch that Santonio caught? This was all defense and STs. Give respect where it’s due. The kid can play, give him a chance. One bad year and everyone wants to jump ship.
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by greenandwhite4ever on Feb 3, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
Easiest road huh?
Where it took a dropped pass and a shanked FG for them to win the AFC title game. Sounds real easy to me………
Yeah...
It always bothers me seeing how the Pats seem to have tons of picks every single year and sometimes a bunch just in the 1st round thinking to myself “Why do so many teams always want to help have them get better and more dominant every year by trading picks with them?”
Other than the TEs, I cant think of many places where those picks have turned into great players in recent years
The CBs are a joke, Mayo isnt close to the player they thought he would be and the team still hasnt drafted a true #1 RB. Gronk and Hernandez are great, thats about it for me.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Having the Picks Isn't the Problem
It’s been what they’ve done with them. They’ve done a poor job of player evaluation and development with a lot of their picks. There have been times where they’ve been too greedy for draft picks and instead of taking a highly-rated player at a position of need, they’ve traded their pick away for a future pick. With as many picks as they’ve had, they also could have easily traded up once or twice to get the defensive studs they need. I wouldn’t have a problem with Tanny trading up, if he also traded down and accumulated a lot of extra picks.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Alexander Tyler
I agree, we have been very lucky that the Pats have squandered many of their picks
If a post was made on the Pats drafts of the past few years, Im sure their drafts would look a lot worse than some of those Tanny drafts.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
I agree as well.
The problem with our draft strategy is that we don’t appear to have one. If your strategy is to pick for need, then, when you don’t have a player on the board when you have to pick that you rate that high to fill your needs, you trade the pick. If your strategy is best player available, but, again, there is no player rated that high when you pick, you trade the pick. We do the opposite. We trade to get extra high pick for players that we have over valued and lose the ability to get more young talent. We reduce our percentages for success. The Gholston pick is the classic example of this. I think everyone, including the FO, hated that pick, but no one was willing to trade down from such a relatively high pick.
In my opinion Peyton won’t get us a Super Bowl this coming season with all the holes we have. We will probably turn over 50% of the roster this off-season – at least we should – between FA losses and cuts. We need to fill most of those spots with young, fast and relatively inexpensive talent. We need to address the glaring holes in the starting roster – safeties, RT, pass rusher. Not all of these moves are going to be successful, but we need to start and stop shelling out money and trading draft picks for the next big name veteran to put us over the top, and build the next big name veteran from witing.
by Traveling Man on Feb 2, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
You guys seriously don't know how dreadful this would be long term,
Do you?
The Jets will win the Super Bowl one day and that will be the day i laugh in your face if your not a Jets fan.
The team is on its way to dreadful, the players are getting older
The window is closing and if Peyton is healthy and willing, they need to at least consider it. The Jets simply cant afford to wait until Sanchez is in his 6th or 7th year, they are a team built to win right now.
Rex cant afford another year without playoffs, especially if the Giants wind up winning the SB. He might push for the better QB as he and Sanchez will both be out on their asses if next year is another year like this.
Im sure everyone thought we were doomed in 09 when we were going with a rookie QB and the Jets did okay. So if the worst thing is starting over again at QB, its not so bad. Sanchez is pretty much playing at a rookie level as it is, so there wouldnt be much drop off.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Great point. There are actually rookies in the league now that look a lot better than Sanchez does after his 3rd season.
by nationalist88 on Feb 2, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
No rookie or young QB was going to work here.
It just wasn’t going to happen. Not Dalton. Not Newton. Not Ponder. Not anyone.
yeah, we are going to have a good season, then peyton is going to show is age
he is going to be gone in 2 years and we are going to have to start over, again. if you think we could be getting the same elite peyton manning, your wrong.
Back in the Draft's top 10. and the cellar of the east too... I'm not goin back! lol
Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
Its inevitable though, this team is getting older
In 3 years they probably will be in rebuild mode anyway.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Overall
the team isn’t that old and can easily get a lot younger. Scott and Pace will be gone within another year or two. So probably will Brandon Moore. Pouha may be gone this season. Leonard will be gone soon. If Tanny is smart and handles FA and the draft well and Sanchez can get it together, this team can be very competitive for another 5-8 years. He has to stop trading away draft picks for older vets and trading up in the draft however. They need to address the pass rush, RT and S positions, then get some solid depth for the OL and secondary, upgrade their P & K. If Sanchez doesn’t show a lot of improvement, they will be starting over anyway, so will be going younger. Surely they wouldn’t be stupid enough to bring in another rookie QB to start while loading up with older vets to try to win now.
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True, I also dont think this crew will be around if there is another rebuild after 2012 or 2013
I dont think 2012 is gonna be a SB or bust kind of year but if no playoffs, I can see Woody cleaning house.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
The reason why we're talking all this
is because Tanny/Woody effed up the 2010 team for 2011. And look what happened…….Face it, 2010 was the best chance we had to win.
You guys can all be in denial
but a healthy Peyton Manning paired up with our D and Special Teams = Super Bowl contenders
All it takes is one bad hit to send him into retirement
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yes feed the fear
because apparently there are LBs out there who have had this procedure and are tackling and MAKING hits in the league.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7534274/sources-peyton-manning-medically-cleared-resume-nfl-career
go to 2:36. Irsay certainly has his reasons for saying Manning isn’t ‘cleared’ to play despite the fact that his own team neurosurgeon and the surgeon that did the procedure cleared him. Spreading the fear gives Irsay more time to win the PR battle and not pay Peyton’s huge contract.
It's going to be a year before they even know whether or not he can ever play again
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from Irsay
From Twitter
Peyton has not passed our physical nor has he been cleared to play for The Indianapolis Colts. Team statement coming on Friday.
Just because the guy who did the surgery said Peyton can play does not mean he is any closer to playing. At all.
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you do realize what you're saying
that you’re taking the word of a business man over a specialized doctor when it comes to health related matters?
It didn’t say Peyton has failed his physical. It says he hasn’t passed it, which probably means he hasn’t taken it yet (or else the failure would have made big news). Irsay of course has his own reasons for making this statement.
I think the people who conditionally want Manning if he's cleared medically don't realize how far off he still is from returning
For all intents and purposes, you can forget about Peyton for this season. He won’t be playing. For anyone.
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How do you know that?
Training camp doesn’t even start for 6 months.
by MeanMrMustard on Feb 2, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
All the current reports say the nerves in his arm are not regenerating
So although the fusion has taken, the nerves are not. That means he will hit a plateau in his ability to throw the ball, until the nerves start to regenerate again. That could happen in the next 5 minutes, the next 5 years or never. Second, it also means that if he takes a hit, in addition to the issues he has with the fusion, he could experience more nerve damage than a player who has healthy nerves.
My own opinion is it is less than 40% he plays for anyone in 2012, and that percentage decreases every day there is no progress reported in this rehab. If he doesn’t play this year the rodeo is over. He will not have played for 2 years, and only a truly desperate team would sign him for 2013. He will be 37 and I’m not sure even he would want to go through all that is needed to get ready to play again after 2 years without contact.
by Traveling Man on Feb 2, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
that's funny
they just said he’s cleared to play. All you naysayers…where are you getting your information from???
The guy has been throwing the football for 2 months and he says he’s not going to retire. I’m pretty sure if it were life threatening or critical, he’d call it a career.
I didn't say he's going to retire, he isn't going to play this year
I get my information mainly from ESPN and NFL. Where Jim Irsay said this:
From Twitter
Peyton has not passed our physical nor has he been cleared to play for The Indianapolis Colts. Team statement coming on Friday.
Just because the guy who did the surgery said it was a success doesn’t mean anything. Nerves have not regenerated in his arm and nobody knows if or when they will. Some days he cannot hold or throw a football. We knew he was throwing sometimes back in December. It puts him no closer to a return.
At least the “naysayers” make an attempt to spread factual information instead of spewing ignorance because it makes for a better story.
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how do you know the nerves in his arm haven't regenerated?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7534274/sources-peyton-manning-medically-cleared-resume-nfl-career
The sources said Dr. Robert Watkins, who performed the procedure on Manning, examined the player recently in Los Angeles and concluded the stability in his neck would have allowed Manning to play this Sunday as long as the nerves in his arm had regenerated to a satisfactory performance level.
Watkins also instructed the quarterback to continue an aggressive rehabilitation path that provides an optimistic outlook for Manning to play in 2012. Watkins performed Manning’s spinal fusion Sept. 8, and on Dec. 1 declared that the fusion had achieved “firm fixation.”
Watkins, according to the sources, joined Colts neurosurgeon Dr. Hank Feuer in clearing Manning to play. One source said that Feuer recently told Manning, “If you were my own son, I’d tell [you] to go play.”
Irsay wants to move on. It’s obvious his twitter post had an agenda. The link even goes on that linebackers have had this surgery and are out there playing/tackling/hitting. So again, this injury is totally blown out of proportion by media and fans that don’t have full knowledge of the matter.
And both Schefter and Mortensen say that there is a difference between being cleared to play and being able to perform.
The nerves in his arm still have not completely regenerated. Even though he can throw, it is doubtful right now he is throwing anywhere near what he did in the past.
by Traveling Man on Feb 3, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
obvious he's going to need rehab
every player that goes through extensive surgery needs rehab to get back into playing shape. Your own source Mort has said that LBs are out there tackling and hitting right now with the same surgery. So this is being blown out of proportion…probably because it’s Peyton, and because Irsay wants to move on with rebuilding and avoid that huge contract.
Not going to happen!
Trust me, my wife has gone thru two neck surgeries in the last 4 years (not 18 months!) and when it is not healing correctly it is not a good sign :( Payton should be thankful for the career he has had and retire before he get hurts and has to live the rest of his life in agony! At least IMO! but I’m not a Dr.
This
Payton should be thankful for the career he has had and retire before he get hurts and has to live the rest of his life in agony!
Or worse, in a wheelchair with no feeling from the neck down.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Alexander Tyler
totally agree
lets get younger and faster,this team does have good young talent in some areas.lets use the draft to build on that talent.im not wasting high draft choiced on a guy who might be healthy,dont forget this guy has 2 bones in his neck fused together.Sanchez didnt have have the greatest of years but he had a lot of mutts around him.getting older will not help this team in anyway.
Okay enough is enough
how many of you guys have his medical history…and know how to read it? You guys are all shouting like the sky is falling while Peyton himself says he’s not going to retire. I’m pretty sure a guy like him is smart enough to call it a career if he knew his situation was life threatening. And no, just because your wife has neck surgery doesn’t mean she has the same neck as Peyton. Doctors just cleared him to play AND he’s been throwing the ball for 2 months already.
Instead of breeding fear, how about looking at the facts? The man is probably healthier than you guys give him credit for and he’s itching to play. The fact that some of you are jeering the notion of getting a healthy Greatest QB of All Time is appalling.
No, how about YOU look at the facts
Look into the medical condition, which no QB has ever experienced before. Look at the executive consensus that he will not play in 2012. Nerve regeneration in his throwing arm is nonexistant at this point. Look at Jim Irsay’s brand spanking fresh tweet saying that Peyton has not been cleared to play or throw with an NFL team.
I never said he would retire. I said he won’t play in 2012. Seems you don’t really know the “facts” at all, you’re too busy chasing the more sensational story. Yet the people who are practical that actually follow his practice, that knew he was throwing in December and know it doesn’t mean anythiing, that knew his spinal doctor said he could play football again – are “breeding fear” because they actually get that the guy isn’t going to jump back into a uniform.
Nothing you cited means anything. In fact, information is coming out by the minute namely Irsay’s assertion Peyton is not cleared to play that the “naysayers” are the reasonable ones.
It’s publicity measures by Manning. IF the people in Indy think he has a chance again soon, even though NFL doctors and executives already know better, there will be more of a mandate for him to stay and collect his 28 million dollar March 6 roster bonus.
Please don’t lecture me about facts, they are overwhelmingly on my side.
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did not mean to cross that Irsay tweet out
oops
Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
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are you talking about this article?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AssVtAyvXHibkwmUAeAj2fFDubYF?slug=ap-colts-manning
The one where Irsay says he hasn’t passed HIS physical for HIS team? You do realize that just means he hasn’t taken a physical for the Colts right? Basically it’s Irsay, who doesn’t want to lose a PR battle with Peyton against Peyton’s physician…who I’m pretty sure has a better moral compass as part of his job.
So I’m not sure how these facts are overwhelmingly on your side, because they still don’t prove that Peyton Manning is not health or incapable of playing football.
How is it appalling?
How do you know if he is going to produce? New offense, new players around him. Just because he is cleared to play doesn’t mean he will be the same Payton. Like i said before one bad season and everyone wants to quit on Sanchez. The kid can play, give him a chance. He’s our guy!! Two years with payton and we are back to square one.
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by greenandwhite4ever on Feb 3, 2012 2:03 AM EST reply actions
this isn't about Sanchez
this is about Peyton Manning. The Greatest QB of our generation, if not all time. Plenty of people have seen me defend Sanchez against his critics, but if you had the opportunity to pair up Peyton with Rex’s defense, how can you say no? This is about winning the SB and it always has been.
Yeah because Peyton is such a great post season player...SMH
I can’t disagree with you about Peyton being a great QB, but he’s only been great during the regular season…ya know, kinda like LeBron.
Having Peyton on the team will probably guarantee 13 wins and a home playoff game, but healthy Peyton can’t consistently beat the Pats and he sucks in the playoffs.
What makes you think he’ll be able to accomplish those things now after he’s been out of football for a year and he’s not 100% healthy?
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
the "Peyton isn't a great postseason player" is a knock that has been overused.
If he’s only such a great regular season player, then how did he get that Super Bowl ring? All this he sucks in the playoffs…has anyone tried to pry deeper and maybe realize he was the entire team? Making it all the way to the trophy essentially by yourself is a heavy burden for anyone to carry. It was obvious watching how the Colts collapsed this season how much of a burden he had to carry.
The Colts sucked at defense, sucked at running the ball, sucked at coaching and sucked at player acquisitions. All they had was pretty much Peyton.
He’s been out of football a year. Okay, but last time I checked, the season just ended and there’s another 8 months for him to rehab and get back into playing shape.
Rex Grossman was the opposing QB
That’s how he won that ring. You saw what happened when he played against Drew Brees, Peyton choked it hard.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
first of all
You act like Drew Brees is a slouch of a QB. Second of all, the Colts were down by 1 score with 3:45 left primarily due to poor special teams execution (let the Saints convert onside kick and muffed a 51 yard field goal).
Last but not least here’s his wiki page. You can go check his post season stats…of which he has a Post Season QB rating of 88.4 and with an avg of 98.5 his last four season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning
Pair him with a defense and a running game like ours, and we automatically become SB favorites.
and that's the problem
If the Jets entertain this this thought, it will be the reason why they are the laughing stocks of the league….same old Jets…what’s is wrong with sticking with our guy? Lets say we sign Payton, He’s not going to come cheap. So do we scrap the plan on filling in other holes on the team because we will not have the cap space. Then what? No O-line depth, Someone goes down and one good hit to Payton and he’s done. I see this situation like a relationship. A girl has a boyfriend but think she can upgrade. She dumps the boyfriend for someone with a better car. He ends up being a piece of shit, and the guy she dumps goes on with a new girl friend and has a great life.
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by greenandwhite4ever on Feb 3, 2012 8:56 AM EST reply actions
The only reason we are laughed at around the league is because we act like we have a legit QB, when every fan outside of NY thinks he sucks. And regardless of your personal opinion about Sanchez, he is statistically below average. Some of his numbers are morbid. Even Tebow has a higher career QB rating than Sanchez. Calling him a “franchise” QB is an absolute joke, because there are numerous rookies playing better than he is, with less surrounding talent.
Manning is one of the best QB’s to ever play pro football. He takes over games, and wins them on his own. He makes no-name WR’s stars. He is instant offense, and a coach on the field. He even makes the defense better… Ask the 2011 Colts what Peyton Manning is worth. They might tell you about 10 wins. I don’t care what he costs. I don’t have to write the check. But I am sick to fucking death of the Patriots winning the AFC East every year, and having to watch them play in 5 Superbowls. Sanchez can’t change that. Peyton can.
by nationalist88 on Feb 3, 2012 12:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Going after Peyton just screams desperation
..in addition the league laughs at the team no matter what we do.
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how is it desperation
when every other team in the league that needs a QB will be vying for his services? There’s already a billboard put up by Titans fans telling him to come their way. I don’t think asking for the services of one of the most elite QBs of our time is desperation.
In fact, not wanting it is sheer stubbornness and narrow mindedness.
franchise is earned
Who gave the name franchise to Sanchez anyway? Though I still want to see this next year what he can do franchise tag is earned.
Peyton is HOF QB and the franchise of Indy but just one SB, oh because he didn’t really have the team and had to do it on his own. Oh so our team now is the team that he will make SB contenders?
So sell the farm and maybe after 2 years or a year if he doesn’t take us there they’ll be talk of throwing this bum out of NY. Then we find another old guy to get us there. When we got Farve was there hype also? The last franchise guy we had another one of the best QB to play the game?
Until this year Sanchez was 3-2 against the Pats and kicked their ass in the playoffs. Peyton has a losing record against the Pats. Peyton in playoffs has some games where analysts say he choke hard. Peyton is a awesome QB but has a losing record in the playoffs. Sanchez only 2 years in playoffs but has a winning record and never choked in the playoffs. So yea we want to be the SOJ so bring Peyton in, he has a ring we want, so did Farve. We’ll take a chance because we are the SOJ and seems to want it that way.
Peyton is HOF QB and the franchise of Indy but just one SB, oh because he didn’t really have the team and had to do it on his own. Oh so our team now is the team that he will make SB contenders?
Our biggest criticism is that we don’t have an elite QB to put us over the top and win the hardware.
The biggest criticism with Peyton and his teams were that he didn’t have a defense that could protect all those points he put up.
Peyton is an elite QB, Rex has a top ranked defense. Does this not make any more sense??? Not taking this opportunity just screams SOJs. It’s like you guys want to be mired in mediocrity.
We need to strengthen our defense. Our numbers look OK last year but we know our defense was lacking and getting old. Rex’s defense is getting worse and old from the defense of the 09/10 season.
You said he’s the greatest QB of our generation if not all time, are you kidding me? Eleven post seasons, went out in first game 7 times, 3-4 playoff games had QB rating under 40. Had some good playoffs games too but not real clutch in playoffs. One of the best in the regular season though.
Like another poster said thinking of getting Peyton screams desperation. Does taking him make any sense??? Taking him just screams let’s be the SOJ and lets keep our team old and get older players.
no
not taking him screams we’re stubbon SOJ fans. We like to be mired in mediocrity and over value the “star” players we have even though in truth, Darrelle Revis is our only true star and we have no real offensive playmaker.
Peyton happens to be a QB and a playmaker with a high football IQ and the ability to make those around him better. Having him on the offense will even have a trickle down effect on the defense as we’ll DEFINITELY have less 3 and outs and will be able to give the defense some rest.
No.
Can we stop the Peyton talk? He’s a Colt. Every team has their own mountain to climb, and well we have Sanchez as our QB. We need to develop, not find the easy way out. Besides, wasn’t there a QB in 2008, an old selfish guy, who had us all talking SB in Week 11 before crapping out and choking, the final nail, to our predecessor at QB? We fans are just so ungrateful for everything. We could have won the SB in 2010, and we’d still be ungrateful. And then the FO screwed up, letting all the real Jets, the playmaking Jets get away and after Week 14, the team crapped. I questioned the FO all offseason long, and well all my suspicions ended up proving true as the Jets crapped out in Weeks 15-17 and sat out the playoffs.
Sanchez is our guy, Peyton is Indy’s guy. Deal with it. And like some fans said, he had one bad year and we’re all ready to run him out of town. 2010 was his best yr. Every QB has a bad year folks.
To add
From 2010 to 2011, the leadership of the team withered away, and so did the image, and it all unraveled after the season ended.
The Colts defense may have not been great
but they have 2 pretty good edge rushers in Freeney and Mathis. Those are 2 things the Jets don’t have and will not have if Peyton is brought in. Also, if Peyton is acquired some of those guys from the Jets top ranked defense will not be brought back in order to afford Pey Pey’s contract.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
who cares if they have 2 good edge rushers?
that’s like saying our offense is great because we have Santonio and Plaxico. The Colts defense has consistently been in the bottom half of the league for the past 4 years. Peyton had already said before he got his current contract that he doesn’t have to be the highest paid player. And with his current surgery, he doesn’t have the same leverage when he signed that last contract.
Also, you make it sound like we’ve been competently spending so much money and time on our defense. A lot of the defensive players with the large contracts on our team are over valued (ie. Pace, Scott, Leonhard), and we’ve barely even attempted to replenish the defense via draft (because we were to busy trying to cover up for Schotty’s incompetence). A draft full of young, cheaper defensive players will make us a more fiscally responsible and better team.
" I don’t care what he costs. I don’t have to write the check."
Yes you don’t have the write the check, but Tanny does and it will hurt the rest of the team.
How can we put him in a Rex top ranked defense if we have to pony up the money for Payton then run out of money to improve the defense? This will be a risk. Yeah, maybe we would put up points but we would be getting our asses kicked by Gronkoski again!
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by greenandwhite4ever on Feb 4, 2012 7:15 AM EST reply actions
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