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Mike Pettine: Stay or Go?

When the head coach is active on one side of the ball, it is always difficult to tell the exact impact of a coordinator. With that said, I think Mike Pettine has been pretty effective as a defensive coordinator for the Jets. In the worst of his three seasons as coordinator, his unit was considered a disappointment but still was in the top ten as far as yards against go. With one of the least productive offenses in the league, the Jets were still in position to make the Playoffs late in the year because of the defense's effectiveness.

There were some critical drives the unit allowed, but in many games, the defense was only considered a failure because offensive inefficiency forced the other side of the ball to be perfect. Had the Jets put up the same scant yardage on offense and only avoided turnovers, the defense would have provided wins against Miami and Denver and quite possibly against Baltimore as well.

Pettine has reportedly become more active in the defense as his time with the Jets has progressed. He seems to be a good fit with Rex Ryan. He was hands on implementing the defense as Rex's head coaching responsibilities gave him less time to work directly with his unit than he did in Baltimore. Pettine was also reportedly instrumental in thinking outside the box late in 2010. When the Jets' attack defense stopped working, Pettine was one of the architects of the zone coverage based schemes the team used to confound Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. When Rex Ryan got impulsive and wanted to revert back to attacking, the level headed Pettine reined him in.

I think Pettine and Rex compliment each other well. Pettine accentuates Rex's strengths and compensates for some of his weaknesses. Most importantly, Rex trusts Pettine and will listen when he disagrees. That is important.

I vote stay. How do you vote?

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Pettine is not the problem on D

I think he’s generally done a very good job. And …. I likewise have faith in Rex and Pettine working together toward having a better defense next year.

The reality is, though, the current Jets defense is not a shut-down defense. In my opinion, it has much more to do with personnel than with the coaching. It will be interesting to see what moves are made in the off-season. Clearly they need to get stronger at Safety and in the LB’ing corps. A better pass rush would also help enormously.

If heads need to roll, I’d much rather the spotlight be on Tannenbaum and Schottenheimer. Pettine and Rex get a pass.

by Jeff I on Jan 7, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

I like the fact that he reeled Rex in some on all the constant blitzes

However, I don’t understand the soft coverage he had the strength of this team, the corners use at times. Maybe it was because of the safety problem, but the reason Steve Johnson got the best of Revis was because Revis was not playing to his strengths, that’s tight man coverage. He was playing off coverage the whole game. Also, the second Pats game, the coverage was also soft that game, after watching the Giants and Steelers shut the Pats down playing tight man. Again, maybe the trust or lack of trust in the safeties were the reason. I just hate to see the best corner tandem rather anybody agree or not play so soft at times.

by BIG OH!!!!! on Jan 7, 2012 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with this...

Too soft with the corners definitely, and our safeties are probably one of the worst tandems in the league in coverage so maybe that is why they played so soft?

by GangGreen73 on Jan 7, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as he can work with Rex,which is not easy,he should stay.

Every coach on offense should be canned,starting with ‘Son of Marty".Too bad we’re stuck with Cptn Holmes who has alienated as many people as Cptn.Queeg.

by Putnan Prince on Jan 7, 2012 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

stay or go or just too slow

speed rating for jets defense not counting lineman
scott too slow
pace so so
harris is great at attacking but never catches anyone from behind ya know
e smith way too slow
leonhard out of the flow
revis all pro
cromartie too cro

by knucklehead62 on Jan 7, 2012 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

rex ryan as def coord

i gues it would be ridiculous to demote rex to def coord and let schotty be head coach then maybe schotty would have as much input in the offense as rex did this year—i dont see how we lose out doing this-schotty would just be in charge of picking captains, coin toss and when to kick a field goal plus he could handle more of the media while rex has more time to plan some devious defensive schemes and someone else could step in as off coord and actually try help the jets look like an nfl offense instead of something the three stooges came up with after a night of partying at curly’s bar-ahh ridiculous!!

by knucklehead62 on Jan 7, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think the scheme is the problem on Defense

I think its the players, namely the safeties.

by NJ Champ on Jan 7, 2012 12:12 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Stay

Defense is the strength. I will say tackling is a major issue that ultimately sunk us in addition to offensive woes, but the Jets poor tackling predates Pettine.

If the FO actually does their job and plugs up the holes and weak spots, this could be hands down the best defense in the league next year. A pass rusher and a retooled safety rotation are all this defensive squad really needs.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
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by Bro Namath on Jan 7, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

This

Agreed on all points. The poor tackling is a concern that Rex and/or Pettine should cure either with more discipline or roster upgrades. I really hope Pettine stays.

"Reality is purely the perception of the individual mind. It follows, that since no two minds are alike, no two perceptions of reality are alike. It further follows, that what reality is to one, may seem complete madness to someone else."

– Yefim Novikov

by joeklecko on Jan 7, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Another Excellent Post, John B!!!!

You are on a MAJOR roll!!! All excellent points.

In addition, hopefully, Pettine stays and Schitty goes. Hopefully Tanny wakes the heck up and addresses the pass rush and OLB positions in a major way, taking OLBs in both the first and either the second or third rounds. Hopefully the other top pick is used on a safety who excels in coverage. With Ellis and Wilkerson having a year in the system, benefit of the offseason conditioning program, mini camps and OTAs, they should play at a much higher level in 2012. The D could return to the #1 spot if Tanny does his job for a change by:

1) getting rid of Schitty and replacing him with a quality OC and QB coach so that the offense has fewer three and outs, can stay on the field resting the D and by scoring more points and turning the ball over less and committing fewer penalties;

2) signing a quality vet FA RT;

3) removing the cancerous Holmes and re-signing Braylon Edwards;

4) signing Michael Griffin or Reggie Nelson to a FA contract and getting rid of Brodney Pool

"Reality is purely the perception of the individual mind. It follows, that since no two minds are alike, no two perceptions of reality are alike. It further follows, that what reality is to one, may seem complete madness to someone else."

– Yefim Novikov

by joeklecko on Jan 7, 2012 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

I said stay but....

These times when the defense looks completely confused like it that last Pats game needs to change. There are talent problems with the players we have, but better coaching should at least get these slow players lined up correctly. Too many blown coverages.

by J-E-T-S T-I-M on Jan 7, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

In a Nutshell

that is why Jim Leonard is a valuable part of the team and Pool is trash. Leonard doesn’t blow coverages. He may be too short and slow to cover some receivers, but he doesn’t make stupid mental mistakes. Pool does it routinely and doesn’t seem to care.

"Reality is purely the perception of the individual mind. It follows, that since no two minds are alike, no two perceptions of reality are alike. It further follows, that what reality is to one, may seem complete madness to someone else."

– Yefim Novikov

by joeklecko on Jan 7, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, whatever.

This is Rex’s defense. I don’t think we’d miss Pettine if he left.

by Crackback on Jan 7, 2012 5:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

i like mike p stay with jets

rod messley [cb1]

by Rod Messley on Jan 7, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

Its like we are stuck in a hard place with Leonard

On one hand Jim Leonard knows the defense, he lines up everyone, and doesn’t make mental mistakes. On the other hand, he is too short and slow to cover. Another thing is why is Leonard the only one that can do this, (“quarterback of the defense”) shouldn’t we have someone else as a back-up plan if Leonard just suddenly goes down again?

bleed green and white

by greenandwhite4ever on Jan 8, 2012 7:54 AM EST reply actions  

Not sure how much of a difference Pettine makes

But I think the personnel needs upgrading. Rex and Pettine seem to believe in themselves too much, to believe in their ability to turn scrubs into gold. Just because Bart Scott, Jim Leonhard, and others were unheralded players that Rex managed to make into solid ones, doesn’t mean the same thing can be done with Eric Smith, Nick Bellore, Jamaal Westerman, and Josh Mauga.
Offenses are always scheming to beat defenses and vice versa. Rex and Pettine are seeing a defense that is unraveling (see losses to the Raiders, Eagles, Giants, and Patriots), so they need to get their thinking caps on in terms of ways to fix it, in terms of both scheme and personnel. After getting picked apart in January 2010 by Peyton Manning, they found an “answer to that” in the next wild card game. That’s the kind of adjustment you have to make.
(end disjointed semi-rant)

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by Rabbit T on Jan 8, 2012 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

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