Rex Ryan: Stay or Go?
by John B on Jan 6, 2012 3:16 PM EST
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When the story about Rex Ryan's tenure with the Jets is finished, we will probably remember 2011 either as the year he was exposed or the year he learned from some painful mistakes. This was not a good year for Rex.
It certainly did not seem like the locker room was terribly cohesive. Santonio Holmes has earned most of the attention due to his comments calling out teammates during the year, his performance in Miami last Sunday, and the constant media stories that have come out since. For a guy whose biggest strength is supposed to be getting through to his players, Rex Ryan really did not know how to motivate Holmes this year. He thought Holmes would take more ownership if given a leadership role as a captain. That was clearly not the right button to push.
Even worse, Ryan did not address the problem with Holmes. We knew early in the year when Holmes was calling out his teammates to the press there was an issue. We saw it from his stupid taunting penalty against the Eagles made even more galling since the Jets were way behind because Holmes spotted Philly 14 points with a pair of sloppy turnovers. In the end, it was Brian Schottenheimer who had to lay the hammer down on Holmes. There is no way this situation should have gotten to the point where it bubbled over as the team's Playoff hopes were dying. It should have been addressed before then. Incredibly, Ryan did not even know there was a problem.
Ryan gives his players a lot of freedom. He trusts them more than a lot of other coaches. As we saw this year, some will take advantage of the honor system if not held in check. In Rex's first two years, the Jets got a reputation for being out of control in no small part because of the coach's and the team's trash talk. This was fine, though, because it was always directed at the opponent. This year it became directed at each other. That is a big problem. GGN member Buzzy said it perfectly yesterday. A lack of cohesion might not cause a team's downfall, but it tends to make things go badly once a team faces adversity. Instead of fighting together to battle through the problems, a team that has no cohesion will start pointing fingers.
Mistakes happen. Nobody is perfect. The real question is whether people are willing to ask the hard questions and correct the mistakes. Ryan admitted he did not handle the team well in his Monday press conference, but it does not seem like he really is ready to confront the problems. He attributed the problems with Holmes being a captain not to his own misjudgment of thinking he could motivate his player. He said the issue itself was having captains in the first place. He also indicated that having training camp in Cortland instead of Florham Park will magically make all of the chemistry issues go away. This does not sound promising.
It does not seem like Rex really knows how to get through to the team. Monday he apparently did his best to instill in his players the need for greater cohesion. He was so effective that one veteran told the media anonymously that the team had to dump Santonio Holmes, and the rookie third string quarterback went on the radio to air some dirty laundry in the locker room.
This unfortunately speaks to a culture surrounding the team where winning the game sometimes takes a back seat to doing people favors. Think back to Week 2 when Mark Sanchez got his clock cleaned in garbage time against the Jaguars. The Jets almost got their quarterback needlessly hurt on a meaningless play because the team was trying to get Plaxico Burress a touchdown. He did not have a catch to that point. Eric Smith took a starting job this year for reasons nobody can seem to explain. Forget about his physical limitations in coverage. He was a coaches' favorite so he never had to sit even when he made mental error after mental error. Kerry Rhodes was benched for less than some of the dumb mistakes Smith made this year.
It is part of why this whole Brian Schottenheimer situation is so frustrating. If the Jets are indeed just keeping him on to try and help him get the Jaguars job, it is another example of a lack of accountability and a special favor being done at the expense of what is best for the team.
Rex's relationship with Schottenheimer deserves closer examination as well. Rex is the head coach of the football team. It rings hollow when he acts astounded when the team throws it 67 times like the Jets did against the Giants. Did Schottenheimer not present him with a game plan? Could the head coach have not stepped in once it was obvious the Jets could pound the ball at will but were having problems throwing it? Is it not telling that the last two years have had the same theme? Before the season, we hear all kinds of talk about how the Jets are going to become a passing team, and Mark Sanchez is going to take on more of the load. Then when things are not working, Rex acts shocked the team has gotten away from its "roots" and calls for a return to ground and pound.
Rex was widely praised for the team's success his first two years. There are things he does very well, particularly when it comes to player development and scheme on defense. Questioning his weaknesses does not imply a lack of appreciation for these things. There are issues that need correction, however. Rex really needs to learn. The first is that Brian Schottenheimer needs to be shown the door. If Rex is too blind to see this significant problem, I don't think he is going to ever be able to correct the other issues on the team. He can be himself. He can talk all he wants. He needs to improve in some significant areas, though, if he is ever going to back up one of his guarantees.
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Stay, but he needs a person to genuinely run the offense for him, and Mike T's presence neuters him
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Happy to see this is so heavily in favor of Staying
It would be nice to have a head coach last more then 4 years for once.
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Stay but...
His schtick is no longer credible. The fact that he and Tanny still give glimmers of hope that Schitty stays is what bothers me the most. I have such a bad feeling that Schitty is coming back. Other not so good news: Patriots and one other team are looking to interview Josh McDaniels. The OC openings are running slim.
You can take it with a grain of salt because it's Rich Cimini
and dude likes to stir the pot, but he is 100% convinced the Schotty love is a smokescreen, and that the Jets will arrange for Schotty to land a job anywhere else – whether it be HC or no. I don’t know if that makes you feel any better, because that presser from Rex and Tanny was terrible, but it’s something to keep in mind at least.
If Scotty stays I go.
Sure, half of all my wardrobe has NYJ on it, but I will find a new team if Schotty is retained. 32 years of this is enough.
I'm holding my vote until I see what really happens with Schotty, who's hired in his place, and what happens with Smith and Leonard.
If Schotty comes back, I’m done with Rex. I really don’t think Tone should be back either. And Smith and Leonard HAVE to go.
by Crackback on Jan 6, 2012 3:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It's really not Rex's fault if Schotty comes back
it’s Mike T’s.
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Nah, HCs select their staffs.
And if Rex said absolutely no, Tanny would oblige.
by Crackback on Jan 6, 2012 8:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah apparently Rex wanted to bring hue Jackson with him but the FO wanted to keep schotty, in order for Rex to take the job he had to keep that shit bag. Who knows if this is true or not
by dawg1331 on Jan 7, 2012 1:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No one is irreplaceable
You sometimes get coaches such as Marv Levy who go all the way but fall out the final hurdle.
Rex is a great DC, and a very good HC when also running the defense.
However, if one of his key strengths is motivation, then this season he has falled on his face. And how he reacts determines whether he should stay or move on.
At the moment, I can only see Bill Cowher being an upgrade over Rex. If Cowher was to declare an interest in coaching the Jets then …..
If you talk the talk, you need to walk the walk which includes being man enough to make those tough calls
It took cowher 14 yrs to win a super bowl. Why don’t we give Rex 14 yrs.
by dawg1331 on Jan 7, 2012 1:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
WTF is with the Cowher love?
1. Has any “returned” coach ever managed to win a Super Bowl with a new team?
2. Cowher? Seriously? We don’t need another diva.
Stay
Excellent post as usual John B. No problem questioning Rex, but what I find interesting is the overwhelming negativity towards Rex, Tanny and the rest of the organization after an 8-8 finish. You would think we finished 2-14! Those of us who have been around for decades remember how throughout nearly all of Jets history 8-8 would have been considered a success, a move in the right direction, hope for the future. We’ve seen far too many 4-10, 5-11 etc. seasons.
The truth is the current regime took a big step back this year. But the truth is also that, in 50 years of mostly tragic Jet history, only Parcells has ever had a better 3 year regular season run than the last 3 years, and that by only one win. And NOBODY has ever before given us 4 playoff wins or two Conference championship games in a 3 year stretch.
Before we throw all the bums out, who are we gonna replace them with that will do a better job? Because in 50 years, nobody has done it yet.
Let’s see if Rex and Tanny improve and correct their mistakes first, then decide whether they should go.
what?
Wake up ppl, where I live they would have a statute of Rex by now. We went into the season with two washed up receivers, and one o lineman not ready for prime time. Sanchez was neat all year, so he was rushing so he didn’t get hit. I wont be suprise when they announce he was hurt for half the year.
by clevjetsfan on Jan 6, 2012 4:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That's fine, but if you have all those problems, don't GUARANTEE a superbowl victory.
Otherwise, this is what you get.
by Clarke W. Griswald on Jan 6, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Many picket the Jets as Div. winner's
Its what comes with high expectations.
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Nice writing John.
A funny thing occured to me when I was reading this post.
Why are most of us so ready to afford young players time to grow in their positions and learn by making mistakes but not Coaches? We will sometimes ignore things we all call “rookie mistakes”. We will sometimes even afford a player patience when they don’t deserve it and attribute his failures to the fact that he’s new to the experience.
Well, Rex Ryan is in his 3rd year as a head coach. Sure, I understand the difference between a young man learning the ropes in the NFL for the first time and a man in his 60’s with a family pedegree of coaching. But lets look at this from another angle. If we looked at the coaching position like we do our young prospects we might be inclined to look at some of these issues Rex has had and maybe we would afford him some patience because, like so many other men in this league, he’s still new to this. Do we ever catch ourselves saying “Well, that was a lesson learned and he won’t be making it again I bet” or “let him learn from it. It was his first time dealing with an issue like this?” No
The man has alot to learn. Maybe even more than others due to his personality and some what lax style. That will have to change if he wants to keep his job.
Were all fans of a “win now or get out” league where most of us afford little patience to anything let alone a head coach loosing control of his locker room. But if I know Rex’s mentality I really think a can get over all this and safely say It won’t ever happen again.
He has my patience as of this moment. I got plenty of years ahead of me to see my team hoist a trophy. I say let him learn for this and see how he deals with it in the future.
All that being said. The handling of shotty’s tenure on this team will either lengthen the amount of patience I’m willing to give of cut it off completely.
Adam Schefter says it best...
“In today’s world, everyone loves eating the turkey, but no one wants to wait around for it to cook. They’d rather microwave it. Unfortunately, it’s not as tasty or savory, much like the seasons some of these unstable NFL franchises continually experience.”
The rest of his article – http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/10spot-wildcard/impatient-owners-allow-coaches-develop—adam-schefter-10-spot
IMO, applies to QBs as well
Fortunately, the economics of the game forces teams to stick with developing players that they might be tempted to jettison after 2 or 3 years.
Frustrates me...
…even talking about this after his first two years as a HC he led the Jets to two AFC championship appearances and still hasn’t had one losing season. Stay stay stay.
AND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he’s managed to do all of that with Brian Schottenheimer running the Offense. Imagine what Rex’s team would be if they had someone who could actually run a O.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
The point isn't the W's and L's
The point is that Rex lost control, and that speaks to a major coaching flaw.
If the team simply had bad luck, or was injured, or just wasn’t good enough, or even if Rex cost a game or 2 with bad in game decisions, this poll doesn’t exist. It’s a little deeper than underachieving and going 8-8.
by J-Nasty on Jan 6, 2012 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The flaw is very simple
and very correctable: Rex is going to primarily focus on the defense.
If you are willing to work with that limitation, hire a quality OC and give the OC plenty of autonomy — something that Rex will clearly allow and something that I think would be appealing for any candidate — then you can win.
Stay
He’s been too successful to get rid of. And he’s a great X’s and O’s guy, which is great. That said, he seems to be running into the trouble that all player’s coaches do… he’s so buddy-buddy that the inmates start to run the asylum and he loses control. I know 8-8 isn’t a bad record, but when this team was branded as a Super Bowl contender after 2 straight AFC title game appearances, 8-8 is not acceptable.
by J-Nasty on Jan 6, 2012 4:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
First of all nobody gets a pass for what you've done in the past, unless you've one some championships.
And even then that gets you only so far. Someone above mentioned Coughlin. The Giants value stability, which is why he is still there. If he had the zoo the Jets became he would already be gone.
The expectations for the year way exceeded the talent. The fact that the talent was over-rated can be laid squarely at the doorsteps of Rex and Mr. T. The key factor to consider here is the plan for 2012 and beyond. If there is recognition that “Hey, we thought we were better than we were and we need to make moves to get better” and the actions start to happen to correct that, including Rex backing off the guarantees and becoming more the head coach than head shill, then I think we may have turned a corner. Sadly, based on the press conference earlier this week, we seem to be going the opposite way. I’m not sure whose comment was more incredible – Rex’s that he didn’t have the pulse of the team or Tanny’s that we have these hidden jewels like Cruz lurking in or locker room waiting to explode on the scene. The bottom line is that they are viewing the situation as requiring tweaks rather than corrective surgery. If that is truly their opinion and not just spin, the then 2012 is going to be worse than 2011 and we’ll be talking about the search for a new GM and a new HC of the NYJ next year at this time.
Every year coughlins job is in jepordy, and that locker room isn’t the perfect locker room. Remember when they had shocky and barber that locker room was horrible and Eli just sat around and did nothing. Everyone said poor Eli. How about last year when the giants didn’t make the playoffs, I remember two giants antrel rolle and I think Kenny Philips both came out and said they would love to play for Rex. Plus they probably have the biggest mouth and cancer in brandon jacobs, if he ran the ball like he ran his mouth he would actually be good. But for some reason no one jumps on the giants like they do the jets.
by dawg1331 on Jan 7, 2012 1:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ah, everybody jumps on the Giants too.
I literally cracked up though when some schmuck on the radio was saying that the reason the Smurfs made the playoffs and the Jets didnt was because of leadership. I can’t remember who it was, it was one of the weekend nobodies. The Smurfs went 9-7, we went 8-8. And we lost to them bc Sanchez crapped the bed. Leadership had nothing to do with it. We totally locked up their offense.
Are you saying Woody should sell the team?
He ain’t gonna fire himself.
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Certainly stay
but I still have to say I am shocked by his admissions that he had no clue what was going on. That is just so bad on so many levels.
The Jets had such a strange year. They really did have a ton of bad luck in that they were by far the worst in the league in offensive big play to defensive big play given up ratio-and that is always a fluky thing. Probably several games could have been flipped by chance-but that is what make the team chemistry thing all the more frustrating. S*** happens, but how you respond to that little stuff makes the difference in getting that one extra win you need to make it in even when you have glaring deficiencies like the 2011 Jets did.
The have to upgrade several positions (RT, LB, S, WR) and get rid of Schotty and find someone better. Sanchez has to take that big step everyone is hoping for. If some or most of these things happen, Rex will be fine. If the team tanks next year Rex is in deep crap.
That's not bad luck.
That’s bad coaching plus lack of talent.
by Traveling Man on Jan 6, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
No-it is really not.
You can prove it with statistics. Simply take plays (normalized by average YPP or YAPP on the year) and look at the correlation coefficient from one year to the next or even first 8 games/ last 8 games. It is random. On this front the Jets were just unlucky. For example I can count at least 7 times the Jets D gave up a 50+ yard play this year. There were probably more. For a top 10 defense that really is rare. While the Jets offense was awful, they only had 3 plays of 40+ yards that I can recall (all in losses). Even the offenses ranked below them had more. These can even come on a guy slipping on defense (like Edwards long play in the first Dolphins game last year) and yet this basically never happened. That is random.
Regardless-what is on coaching is the overall level of play, play calling and chemistry. these were sorely lacking too, and thus the Jets were not any sort of good team. My point just being that a few more breaks and we could be in-I mean we had a gimme schedule. Would we have deserved it? Well I don’t think the Jets are a good team, but they are better than the Bengals and Broncos.
He knew exactly what was going on, that is a bold faced lie, Rex is no idiot.
He is covering for both himself and his players. It’s in his MO.
"Chrebet is magic!"
by NYJALLFINGDAY on Jan 6, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
That make the "admission"
all the more shocking to me. If he knew, then he is coming out to lie and say, “hey-I am a dolt.” At least he could have come out and said “We had some issues that we really have to work on, and there has to be accountability that starts with me and I failed here. This wont happen again..”
That would probably make most of us feel better for sure.
But I think Rex is a mite too proud to do that. Both statements would be worth the same thing: nothing. It’s what he does that will lose or gain my confidence, not what he says. Coachspeak is virtually 100% lies and that’s just with a normal coach, even with Rex’s penchant for honesty, he lies quite often.
"Chrebet is magic!"
by NYJALLFINGDAY on Jan 6, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm Not Convinced That is True
That type of covering makes him look like an idiot imo.
"Reality is purely the perception of the individual mind. It follows, that since no two minds are alike, no two perceptions of reality are alike. It further follows, that what reality is to one, may seem complete madness to someone else."
– Yefim Novikov
That doesn't matter a fraction to Rex, maybe only a bit because we're fans. That I'm certain of.
Is it effective? Maybe. I don’t really recall any Jets speaking out about Ryan other than Jenks, not counting Namath. It’s hard to actually know what is really happening because we’re on the outside looking in, but I feel like he had to have known the locker room was fractured, how couldn’t he? We, as fans, again from the outside looking in, correctly deduced midseason that we were in a bit of trouble when Santonio complained publicly, and Meat lashed out back. That report of the receivers complaining to Ryan about Schottenheimer that Rex denied ever happened? That was probably a lie too, you can’t just admit that kind of thing happened when you have Super Bowl level ambition. Time will tell if Rex is the one at fault here, but until you can put a solid case against the man, in Rex I trust.
"Chrebet is magic!"
by NYJALLFINGDAY on Jan 7, 2012 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
Don't forget the Super Bowl is here in 2014.
Woody will kill to be in that game. Mark this down – if we are out of the playoffs next year there will be a massive turnover after the season.
If he fires Rex next year, doyou really think well found someone to come in and get them to the super bowl in 2 yrs. that’s just dumb thinking
by dawg1331 on Jan 7, 2012 1:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Easy choice
to say stay which I did but I do have some concerns.I have a bad feeling that Rex is like his father which means he will ignore offense. If Rex gets himself a big time OC and lets the guy have total control of the offense he will be fine.
If Rex is stuck with Schotty or he hires another inept guy he will not succeed.
Whinning??? More like a voice of reason!!
I clearly state that anyone who would even consider that Rex Ryan job should be in jeopardy in any way is ludacris. The powers that be on GGN can’t handle anyone speaking there mind. They must conform to the the power tripping editors that think there $hit doesn’t stink. You take your feeble warnings and shove up you tightly clinched a$$. If your so tough let’s get together at trainig camp and I will stomp a mudhole on your a$$ and walk it dry….desk jockey!!!
How do you know the Editors have tightly clinched asses?
Whats your secret John B? Do you do a lot of squats or something?
I know what it is- It’s the stair master right?
I gotta start doing the stair master. That thing looks like it really works the glutes.
See? Nothing like diffusing a little tension with some handy gym advise.
Maybe it's just a high estimate of our athleticism
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BWAHAHAHA
I love it. You can’t even spell “ludicrous” and you know so much? FYI Ludacris is a person not an adjective. I hope the editors banned you for your insults and threats. The editors here are good guys and bend over backwards to be fair. You’re way out of line and over the top.
Kudos to you, Bro Namath, for responding with humor.
"Reality is purely the perception of the individual mind. It follows, that since no two minds are alike, no two perceptions of reality are alike. It further follows, that what reality is to one, may seem complete madness to someone else."
– Yefim Novikov
This is the story I have been waiting for for weeks.
"One time, when we got back to the locker room, all of our clothes were gone," Trout recalled. "They left me a Lady Gaga costume and I had to wear it."
Stay for now
He has earned another opportunity to prove himself just as Sanchez has. Rex does need to tone it down, he can still talk about his teams confidence but don’t brag because when you do people want to see you fail. I know he thinks by making games about him to take pressure on his team actually puts pressure on them to back up his bravado. It needs to be about the team (including coaches) not about Rex. I think that this year has been humbling for him and in the long run…a benefit. He will need to hold his team accountable on and off the field. As a leader/supervisor you have to be able to walk a fine line between being friends and a supervisor…he needs to walk that line and hopefully with personnel changes the combination will prove successful.
If Rex as HC is what it takes for him to run the defense
then so be it. Rex wasn’t coming to the Jets to be DC, right? It was HC or nothing. So having fantasies about having him as DC and having an alternative HC are pretty much a waste of time.
In Rex’s book, he said that he liked that his father was known for favoring the defense over the offense, even as HC. He liked that and wanted to emulate that.
Rex is NEVER going to “have the pulse” of the offense. Never.
Either you find a strong, experienced OC to run the offense and police the players or you find a different HC.
Because anyone who expects Rex to fix the Holmes situation — or others like it that will crop up — and not the OC is kidding themselves.
Voted stay. He gets the Sanchez one more season without Schotty.
Now if he brings Schotty back, that changes to a go and he’s damages this team with incompetence for yet another year.
Another Great Article - Rec'd
Another excellent post, John B. Thanks!
Out of appreciation for what he did his first two years, I voted “stay” but with the proviso that he must take significant steps to address and correct the problems with this team, and he must change his philosophy and approach in 2012 or it should be his last.
There is a reason why not other team hired or even seriously considered Rex for their vacant HC position. He is a loose cannon. He’s somewhat like an idiot savant. The problem is that with Rex we sometimes get the genius, and at others we get the idiot.
The good news is that Rex will take ownership and has shown some ability to learn from his mistakes. As you say, however, if he doesn’t recognize that Schotty is a huge problem, then there’s probably no hope for him. I don’t think that Rex is the sharpest pencil in the box overall. He knows D, I will give him that, but being a HC is so much more than just possessing the knowledge of a great coordinator.
I truly believe that in addition to getting rid of Schotty and hiring an OC who agrees with Rex’s philosophy and approach, Rex needs to:
1) Stop the predictions and trying to be a comedian and focus on fixing what is wrong with the team and his own coaching methods
2) Quit publicly pimping his players and be more of a disciplinarian and demand accountability from his players and coaches
3) If he is standing in the way of the team addressing the OLB and S positions via the draft, shut his mouth, and step back. It almost seems some times that he is trying to prove how great a coach he is by winning a SB with one hand tied behind his back from having a mediocre pass rush and mediocre group of safeties who are slow and can’t cover. Both are critical in the type of defense he plays. If he doesn’t know that, then he isn’t as great a defensive mind as most claim he is.
4) Get in control of the locker room. The first step in this is getting rid of Holmes immediately. The second is getting together with the veteran core, listening to them, being tougher, telling players to quit talking to the media and let their play on the field do their talking for them.
"Reality is purely the perception of the individual mind. It follows, that since no two minds are alike, no two perceptions of reality are alike. It further follows, that what reality is to one, may seem complete madness to someone else."
– Yefim Novikov
Rex ona short leash
Being a Jets fan is a lot like being in a abusive relationship. Every spring you forgive the past years disappointments and hope for change, but in the end you are disappointed, hurt, and unsatisfied.
For some unknown reason you keep coming back for more, with a new promise that things will change but never do. Like the sucker I am I will hope that somehow they will find a way to win, like always, next year.
1984 is when my father introduced me to the NY sack exchange, Freeman McNeal and the Jets. The Jets will not fire Rex anytime soon with two AFC championship appearances under his massive belt. If I could point out a problem, it would be the lack of team speed. We look very slow, especially in the Linebacker department. I don’t think Sanchez is the problem, if we could’ve drafted him two years earlier things would’ve been extremely different, but that is the definition of a Jets fan, always wishing what if, and hoping for future success that never come.
I honestly felt lucky the last two years getting to the AFC championship. I will say this, the team is not as bad as the Kotite, Blair Thomas years. Those years were absolutely painful. I liked Rex for the past two years mostly because he was something I have never seen before, but honestly now he is getting tiring, but what can he do? If he suddenly stops talking crap everyone will call him a pu$$y. That’s his style and we have to live with it. This off season will be pivotal for both Rex and the Jets moving forward. We need to get a hell of a lot faster on the defensive side of the ball if we have any chance of seriously competing next year.
Why?
Will they call him a pussy if he grows up/gets smarter? Even if they do, why should he give a shit what someone else thinks? His act is tired, old and just plain stupid. It’s the typical coward trying to convince himself and others that he’s tough.
You are spot on about team speed. That goes mostly on Tanny, but also somewhat on Rex. I assume that in their decisions last year in which of their own FAs to keep and which to let go that Rex had major say so, if not complete control over who was kept. He let two of their faster DBs go in Ihedigbo and Coleman (who also were there best blitzers) and kept slower ones.
"Reality is purely the perception of the individual mind. It follows, that since no two minds are alike, no two perceptions of reality are alike. It further follows, that what reality is to one, may seem complete madness to someone else."
– Yefim Novikov
Stay. Easily, didn't have to think about it.
He took a team with the QB of the name of Brett Favre, took an average QB rookie, built the best Defense in the NFL in one year, and took them to 2 AFC Championships. Like i have said in other posts, i don’t mind the Super Bowl prediction. But once the season starts, he needs to keep his mouth shut. The Giants game burned us for another 4 years.
I don't care what people say about me and i will keep doing what i enjoy.
by sanchise6 on Jan 6, 2012 10:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
By the way,
I meant he took a team coming off a previous year with Brett Favre.
I don't care what people say about me and i will keep doing what i enjoy.
Are you Serious?????
Yeah, Rex needs to get a hold on the locker room. How obvious is that? Someone get that obscure insight to the management!!!
After the Jets beat New England last year in the playoffs, I, like most of you guys, thought Rex had earned fifty mulligans. The Jets lacked talent in multiple places this year, plain and simple. There was no scheming this fact away.
As far as I’m concerned, he can talk Super Bowl all he wants. Let it rip. I read on one of these threads that he makes the Jet fans look bad by doing this. What a laugh!
Is there a GO if schotty stays vote? LOL!
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Ok, who replaces Shotty
Something has to change, and I don’t disagree that the OC is where to start. Now let’s talk about who you hire that can take the team to the next level. Norv would have been a good choice. If wen stay with Sanchez then we need a guy to run an old school run/play action office. He is terrible against the blitz, and in the spread. So forget the new school spread guys like McDaniels. I don’t have the answer. I’d love to hear some recommendations
Please pass the crack pipe
It’s a decent article in that John B pointed out some things that I hope Rex and Tanny learn from and move forward making better personnel decisions but to suggest he needs to go is just plain ridiculous.
If you get rid of Rex this team spirals into a decent that will take years to recover. This is still a relative young team at most of the pivotal positions. Rex is a very solid coach that learn from this ‘off’ year and have the team back in the playoffs next year.
Give the man five years and he’ll deliver the SB.
Get off the pipe!
I don't think he ever said he needs to go
Seems to me that the major theme of the article is that Rex needs to learn from mistakes.
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Put the gloom and doom away
No one is irreplaceable, and Rex is not the only successful coach in the world. The team can be fine even if they were to get rid of Rex.
Seriously? This post?
And the 300+ voters (probably a fair few trolls in that mix)
So you’re telling me 2 great years (and don’t kid yourself, deep playoff runs are a great thing) are undone by one mediocre year?
My vote: stay
But that doesn’t mean consider him infallible or ignore his mistakes or flaws.
And it definitely doesn’t mean keep Schottenheimer.
One season that ended badly doesn’t undo 2 trips to the AFC championship in his first two years as a head coach, but those 2 trips to the AFC championship don’t mean he can do no wrong.
French fries are really Belgian, sausages and bagels have the same amount of protein, two countries' names mean "turkey", and Santa Claus was invented by the Coca-Cola company. Is life weird or what?
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