Mike Tannenbaum: Stay or Go?

he does a great job of crunching the numbers and swinging deals, hes not afraid to take a gamble and hes not a cheapskate like most other GMs…godforbid if he leave and we get Carl Petersen, that guy pinches a penny so hard Lincoln screams

the only reason I i would let him go is if someone was head and heels better….. in my mind I think Bill polian is good, but not that much better than tanny. I will say I wouldn’t be mad if we did let him go but wouldn’t be mad if he stayed.

He was around when we drafted tons of talent in the recent years, our core 4 and the same year we had multiple picks, most of those players stayed on the team at least through their rookie contracts.

Anyone that can’t identify Schottenheimer as a weakness on this team that will prevent the Jets from winning any given game (not just the Super Bowl) is also a weakness himself. Calling Schottenheimer a “good coach” is a F’ing slap to the face of all truly good coaches…

I still think one of the reasons the Jets struggled this year is because they didn’t have an every down back to rely on. Shohn Greene is nice, but he needs too many runs to get that big one.

6 Times they had 110 yards or more and the team went 4-2 in those games.
Last year they were under 110 yards only 4 times
The year before they were under 110 yards only 4 times

The Jets need an RB who can pound it out for 3-4 yards on every carry, not someone who bursts for 15 yards once every 4 carries.

he has had some great years as GM with this team but last year he dropped the ball . he needs to get rid of schotty before he gets my respect back

Tanny should go. There’s no doubt about it. He is an accountant and attorney, not a football man. He doesn’t know squat about evaluating talent or putting together a team. He is responsible for gutting the leadership of this team and destroying the great chemistry it had over the last two offseasons.

He turned over 1/4 of the roster in a year where there were no OTAs, mini camps and a shortened TC. As you point out his solution for depth on the OL was raw rookies, even when quality FAs were available and the Jets had the money and cap space.

Pursuing Nnamdi was a huge mistake. That would have been too much money tied up in one position and the team had other glaring needs. He would have been better off pursuing Jonathan Joseph.

There are holes all over the roster because the team has had too many 3 and 4 player drafts and he has missed on too many of his picks. The most important position in the 3-4 D is the OLB position and aside from Gholston, he has failed to address it when the Jets lack of a consistent pass rush has been perhaps their biggest need for 5 years or more.

Keeping Holmes over Edwards was another glaring mistake. It not only hurt the offense because they no longer had a deep threat, but also hurt the running attack and the offense lost a fiery player who made a lot of big plays and made fewer mistakes than Holmes.

Finally, his backing of Schottenheimer show that he is totally clueless regarding the game of football. There is no way he should be retained as the Jets’ GM.

His first priority is to rid the franchise of Schotty nice guy or not. This is a business, we let TJ go and he was a nicer guy. We need to hire/promote an OC that believes and preaches the Jets offensive football philosophy. Release Hunter, Brunell & Scott, move Eric from safety to LB and find a safety. We really need two new safeties because although Leonard is a good safety he is too slow and small to cover TE’s. Bring back Braylon and release Plax. Find a younger more athletic veteran QB to push Sanchez. I have more ideas that have already been expressed by others on this site regarding the DL & LB’s.

You do realize that if he screws the pooch again this offseason and doesn’t adequately address the Jets holes/needs, that the team will flounder again in 2012 and that could result in Rex being fired as well as Tanny, don’t you?

How many chances do those guys get? Some of you are still supporting Schotty for crying out loud. Do you NEVER want to see the Jets win it all?

Just because someone is aggressive and arrogant doesn’t mean that he’s good or competent.

I’m really shocked and disappointed that so many of you are so blind to how bad Tanny is.

The offensive line was clearly not handled well. Wayne Hunter played adequately down the stretch in 2010, but handing him the right tackle job was a big mistake in retrospect. He got Mark Sanchez hit over 20 times. Tannenbaum also had chances to improve depth and neglected to do so

If indeed Sanchez is the most important figure on the team, and the most important “piece” of Mr. T’s reign, skimping on the OL is about the stupidest thing Mr. T could have done. Was it because he just looks for gym rat bargains or super-star game turners? Is it because he doesn’t understand football because he is a money (fantasy) guy? The OL is huge. There are not super bowl teams that don’t have at least above average OLs, they simply don’t exist.

And the .5 second difference, not to mention the hits not taken, not to mention the .5 yards more on the ground that good OLs give the QB are nearly immeasurable in importance. Sanchez never had experienced multi-game chaos pressure before. Look what happened. Those small differences turn very good QBs into bad looking nobodies. For Tanny to absolutely fail in this area – and yes, he absolutely failed because you need to SECURE this area of the team, not gamble or guess at it – was just plain stupid, and it ended up affecting all kinds of areas of the team in a domino effect. That 1.5 to .5 seconds made the QB doubt himself, exposed Schotty’s bizarre inability to game plan, ruined the run game, made Holmes a non-target and “a cancer”. So many of these major themes likely would have been avoided, including the playoff failure, if the team did not try to save money there.

He is the teams manager. The moves all either were his idea or he signed off on, typically the former. Like John said, there were mitigating circumstances with the players we let go, and the job he’s done over the past few seasons in bringing talent to NY are redeeming factors.

When you get down to it Mike T is more of a business mind than a football one. Business sense and cold unsentimental management are cornerstones of the job no doubt, but I’m not convinced he’s effectively doing either. When you boil it all down, it was Mike T’s idea to value savings over personnel, as he cited financial reasons for not retaining Lowery (he also alleged an “excess of DB’s”, another strike against him), Edwards, Woody and the rest. The names I didn’t mention were replaceable and smart business decision.

John’s right, it is telling Edwards isn’t on a team. But there was nothing physically wrong with him when we let him go. Character issues sure, but as I’ve argued in several posts, Santonio’s issues loom larger. You cannot ignore that when Edwards was last on the team is the last we had a true down field passing threat, at least relatively speaking. Santonio Holmes’ contact extension is something else I took umbrage with at the time and still do.

I think if those three men; Lowery, Woody, and Edwards were on the team this year it could have been a very different year. The worst part: it was affordable, but the time and energy was spent on failed Nnamdi bids instead of keeping our talent, and too much faith was placed in coaching to replace them with players of lesser skill.

I could take him or leave him at this point, but I attribute the lack of proactive measures to make the team better this year to him. I also consider it his responsibility to step up and say Schottenheimer isn’t working, and to sack him. That’s his job.

Maybe he should have signed him to continuous one year contracts… just keep doing that with WRs so they fight for yards!

Tannenbaum is very good at some things: dealing with the salary cap and making trades.

What he is not good at is talent evaluation and management. He basically, looking at the deals he’s done overall, seems to have a “one size fits all, all players are interchangeable” type approach – slide one cog out, slide another in. That’s where we get the Plaxico for Braylon, Mason for Cotchery substitutions. Even LDT for Thomas Jones, to some extent (in hindsight turned out to be a good move for last year, but I think I was reasonably justified in not expecting it at the time).

Also, Schottenheimer MUST be unloaded.

a replacement FA O lineman should be their top priority. second they should fire schotty but im not sure that will happen.