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Potential Jets: Peyton Manning

I guess this is as good of a time as any to talk about Peyton Manning. Plenty of rumors are swirling around the status of the four time MVP. Could he end up with the Jets?

I have long been skeptical of the notion the Jets could land Manning. I have said as much both to people on this site and in person. It is great to bounce the idea around, but there was not even any indication whether the Colts were willing to part with him or whether he wanted to continue his career after a neck injury kept him from playing in 2011. Indications are that Manning might indeed be leaving Indianapolis.

If Peyton does want to continue his career, he is in the driver's seat. He can pretty much choose the team he wants. Manning has more than enough money set aside. While I expect him to command a salary in line with other top tier quarterbacks, I do not think he is going to simply sell himself to the highest bidder. The last few years of his career will present him a chance to enhance an already incredible legacy.

To determine where he will end up, we would have to answer many questions that are not known. What team would give him the best supporting cast? Which coaching staff would he feel most comfortable with? Would he want to play in a big market? Would he want to go to the NFC so he would not compete with the Colts? Would he want to play in a warm weather city? Would he want to play in the same city as his brother? How much would he want to reunite with Tom Moore? I cannot answer these questions. You cannot either. Only Peyton can. We can only talk about whether the Jets should be interested if Manning can be had.

First I think we need to recognize that any team that signs him is going to do a thorough medical examination. Not doing so for a guy coming off a serious neck injury would be irresponsible. Suffice it to say any team that brings Manning in is going to be sure he is past the neck ailment.

If Manning is healthy and interested, I do not see any real debate. For the Jets not to go all in to try and land him would amount to malpractice in my book.

Peyton Manning is not Brett Favre. Favre was older when the Jets got him. Manning is a much better player than Favre was. There is something else to consider. The Jets gave Favre a middle of the pack defense, not a top five unit like the Jets could give Manning. Had the Jets given Favre the kind of supporting cast the team has now, his time with the Jets might have ended differently. Just look at what happened a year later when the Vikings gave Favre a complete football team.

The Jets might have other holes to fill like safety and outside linebacker. Quarterback is more important than any of them. If you have a top tier quarterback, you are a contender in the NFL. If you have a top tier safety or outside linebacker, you might not be. To suggest these are higher priorities would be inaccurate in my book. For all of their issues at these spots, the Jets were still a top five defense. Having a 21st ranked passing game was the big reason the team missed the Playoffs. Turn it into a top tier passing game, and this team is as good as any in the league.

How about that hole at right tackle? Manning's incredible pocket presence would make pass protection look a lot better. He has an innate ability to know just when to get the ball out. The man won the MVP with Tony Ugoh protecting his blind side for Pete's sake.

Manning coming to the Jets would mean the end of Mark Sanchez. The team would need to get rid of Sanchez to clear over $9 million in cap space to make it work. I think it would be worth it. Manning would give the Jets top tier quarterback play for the next two to three years. There is no indication that would be the case with Sanchez. The Jets are a team ready to win now. What is holding them back above all else is an anemic passing game. Manning would probably greatly increase the numbers of Dustin Keller and Santonio Holmes. Some say the team doesn't have the money. Mike Tannenbaum should find the money to make it work.

Manning also might be the one quarterback who could convince Rex Ryan to open up the offense and rely on the passing game. Combine the defense Ryan has with an offense that can put up a ton of points, and the Jets become very dangerous.

I cannot say whether Peyton Manning would have any interest in the Jets even if he chooses and is healthy enough to play in 2012. I can think of at least one team in need of a quarterback that would provide a more attractive option, the San Francisco 49ers. He would get the same great defense, a better run game, better weather, a team out of the AFC, and less of a circus. What I can say is that the Jets should do everything in their power to try and get him if there is a chance.

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If he's healthy. MASSIVE if.

From what I hear people with his surgery live with pain for a good portion of their lives. I vote nay. I think we’re stuck with Sanchez, sink or swim.

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by NYJALLFINGDAY on Jan 30, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

Only if...

State of NY renames Manhattan to MANNHATTAN.
and the jets better land manningham too… just for the fun of it. and draft Terrell Manning! LOL!

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by Max Strauss on Jan 30, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

What other teams would the Jets have to compete with besides San Fran?

Are the Ravens sold on Flacco? Could the dolphins make a solid case?
I’m just curious what everyone else thinks.
I wonder how many other fan bases are starting to drool over Manning at this point an how many teams actually have a chance.

by Can'tWait on Jan 30, 2012 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

Peyton is a DOME QB..always has been always will be

look at His Stats when playing in a NON-Dome stadium….ok better yet in DEC…..in last 10yrs How many games did Colts win in Cold weather stadiums?…1 stadium He has made well known is He hates Playing up in NE during cold weather!!!!….

If and right now it is looking more and more LIKE He may not come back.He’ll pick a team with a Dome(Cowboys) Minn…or pick warm weather

If we go after peyton then who will trade for Sanchez? seriously what Team?….Oakland maybe? Denver?..now there is some serious chatter that He “Peyton” may go to Denver because of Elway!!!

by Jack2466 on Jan 31, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

And the award for most ..... , ?????, and !!!!!!! in a post goes to...

This guy^

I just love it when someone piggy backs on one of the first comments thats totaly unrelated in a thread just so he can get his inane ramblings see by everyone. Someone needs to give you more attention in the real world

by Can'tWait on Jan 31, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

dont worry I get the attention

but seriously u need to read the latest reports on Peytons health b/4 u go jumping on His band wagon..He is damaged goods!!!…saying the Jets should sign Him and 1 hit and He is history…glad ur Owner has 28-30million to waste on damaged goods…that is what I was saying…u expect Me and other jets fans to sit here and accept paying Peyton the above per yr plus Sanchez at 14million….Figures dont lie.Jets can not afford both salaries…so who will Jets cut to have this “Damaged QB?”…Peyton and Bree;s share same faults Great while in a Dome but mediocre outside of there Domes!!!!

by Jack2466 on Jan 31, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure you do get the attention. Re read my post.

Tell me how I’m on anybodies bandwagon? When did I say I wanted Manning on this team? When did I give any impression that I so much as LIKED the idea?
I asked a simple question and didn’t even come close to sharing my opinion in the slightest.
You didn’t read a single word I wrote. You just commented on one of the first comments you saw to get your ramblings seen by everyone.
Listen to you still rambling…

“u expect Me and other jets fans to sit here and accept paying Peyton the above per yr plus Sanchez at 14million….Figures dont lie.Jets can not afford both salaries…so who will Jets cut to have this "Damaged QB?”
GAAAAAAH EVERYONE LOOK AT MEEEEEEE! LOUD NOISES AND EXCLAMATION MARRRRRRRKKKKSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When did I say anything like that?
No wonder everyone thinks your a damn troll!

by Can'tWait on Jan 31, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

ehhhh...

at first i was all for signing Manning and doing whatever possible to get him in a Jets jersey, but the more i thought about it and all the “what-ifs” that he brings with him, i decided a firm NO when asked if the Jets should pursue Manning, heres my reasons…

1. No gaurentee he will EVER play again

2. Too much $$$ ( around 30 million 1 season)

3. might as well cut Sanchez, he wont play again for the Jets if we sign Manning

4. No gaurentee he will be 100% healthy, who needs a QB that cant throw? ( see Brett Favre 2008 )

5. if unsure, check answers 1-4 again.

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by AFCxxBEAST on Jan 30, 2012 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

These are reasons that only come into play if you sign him

If you pursue him, none of these are concerns yet. You HAVE to pursue him, see what he thinks and how he fails, before you write it off. This is Peyton Manning, and we have Mark Sanchez. We are in no position to say “we shouldn’t look at Peyton Manning”.

by J-Nasty on Jan 30, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I've already voiced my opinions on this subject

and I stand by them. that’s all i’m gonna say about this.

by darshv3 on Jan 30, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

If he gets cut, i dont even think hell want to come to NY, especially if Eli wins it again this year. The pressure will be on Peyton like never before.

by dawg1331 on Jan 30, 2012 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

This will NOT happen

i will continue to post that Peyton WILL NOT come to the Jets just so everybody can land safely back on planet earth and get back to reality. This will never happen because the Jets do not have the cap space, do not run a pass-first offense (although that could be altered), and are missing too many pieces to give up more for Peyton. Plus biggest hole the Jets have had the past 40 years is a FRANCHISE qb… not a temporary band aid at QB (please see Boomer Esaison, Vinny Testeverde <3, and Brett Favre).

I will say this now, remember it, write it down, take a picture: Manning lands in Miami with the Dolphins (FML)… and Reggie Wayne goes with him (FMLx2).

P.S. The dream won’t die because we all know that if you inserted Peyton into the Jets (imagine no cap, finance, or trade issues) we would have a nearly guaranteed Super Bowl… would be the best Defense and O-Line Peyton Manning ever had in his entire NFL career (just food for thought).

by Jesse is Raww on Jan 30, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

just like Philly had a guaranteed Super Bowl?

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by Simon Says Jets on Jan 30, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Horrible example... you're clearly "special"

Philly made like 10 changes at key positions, this is one change at a key position… calm yourself champ.

by Jesse is Raww on Jan 30, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

All good

Just saying even though Peyton could help us that doesn’t overshadow the fact that the jets still have MASSIVE holes o line comes to mind right off the bat, before they worry about dumping a 4th year qb

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by Simon Says Jets on Jan 30, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right about the Franchise QB thing

We need to stop signing free agents that will leave after just a couple of years, we need to pick someone and stick with them. A good indication of us never having an extremely stable QB situation is the fact that Joe Namath is STILL the Jets’ all time leading passer.

by darshv3 on Jan 30, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Really...

I guess if you think Mark is a franchise QB, then that point might makes sense, otherwise who cares. Peyton gives us the better chance to win the next two to three years, after that most of our key pieces (Revis, Mangold, Brick, Harris, Holmes, Greene) are all going to be on the down side of their careers. Waiting around for a franchise QB is not helping us anytime soon, and is a dream we should not chase.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 30, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

The cap space could easily be made...

and a franchise QB is not more important than winning a Super Bowl, so that point is irrelevant in any situation.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 30, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Franchise QB

I’m not insinuating that Mark is a franchise QB or that Peyton doesn’t give the Jets a better chance to win a championship right now! What I’m saying is a true franchise QB, who we can win with for 10 years (Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Eli, Rodgers) is the one thing this franchise has been missing. If we continue to have the mentality that we can grab somebody else’s franchise guy when they’re done with him we will never be a great franchise. Stop looking for a quick fix, that’s why the Jets are the heart attack/heart break kids. I don’t want somebody else’s trash, i want a true QB who is ours and ours alone. Change that mentality.

by Jesse is Raww on Jan 30, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sure, but you can't do that now...

thats something you do after a 2-14 season, or a bunch of sub .500s, when you need to start over, and have time to build, this team is too close, and built to win now. Franchise QBs are not that easy to come by (I think thats what they thought they had when they drafted Sanchez), and don’t always mean you will win a Super Bowl (one Dan Marino comes to mind), at this stage Manning (healthy that is) is a much much better option for us right now, even if we had a shot at a player like Luck.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 30, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

it's been 3 years

I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan

by Simon Says Jets on Jan 30, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. 3 years and 2 AFCCG appearances with him as qb.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jan 31, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

and Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer won a super bowls, so

I’m not dismissing Mark as a failure just admitting he is not Peyton Manning, and that he will probably never be the franchise QB we thought he may be when drafted.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 31, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. I’m just not convinced of that either. His issues are very fixable. And it’s worth noting that he was not a game manager last year, despite the billing. He stepped up in a lot of big games last year. A game manager is someone who doesn’t hurt his team. Mark helped his team win a number of games last year with clutch, on the money throws in the 4th quarter. He made all sorts of throws when he needed to. Game managers rarely do that.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jan 31, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You gotta go all in.

For all the hole-pluggers… Those holes are much less leakier when you have Manning controlling the clock and lighting up the score board.

by Crackback on Jan 30, 2012 3:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Agreed.

What a true dream come true. My favorite quarterback ever in a Jets uniform…

by umohan21 on Jan 30, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I say pursue...

I don’t think that we should destroy the future for the guy, but if he is an option, you HAVE to kick the tires…he’s the greatest QB OF ALL TIME!!! How can you at least not bring him in and see what’s what?

I am one of Sanchez’s staunchest supporters…I love the kid and honestly think that if the right peolpe are put around him the Jets will never be below .500 and will win AT LEAST one Super Bowl in the next 3-4 years. I think he will be a late bloomer. That said, I would be okay with losing him. A 100% healthy Peyton Manning in NY Jet Green pretty much guarantees the SB in the next two years.

One thing that I haven’t heard ANYONE talk about is even IF he clears the physical, can he still throw? Will he have nerve damage that a physical cannot detect?

by Down Since '86 on Jan 30, 2012 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

having Peyton guarantee;s a SuperBowl?

How many Superbowls did Colts win with Peyton?….if u get Peyton u wont have much in Cap space left to fill the holes on OFF and DEF…

..sure Scott isnt coming back but Woody still has to pay Him His 4 million!!!!..if u cut-trade Holmes thats a BIG cap hit..

.plus also woody has to pay Him His guaranteed Salary!!!! of 7.5 million!!!!..myself I dodnt see Peyton playing again!!!!..

..and alot of the Doc;s who have done those type of operations have said samething.takes a full yr to fully recover and still no guarantee;s one can throw longer than 30yrds..or throw over 25 pass;s a game…

by Jack2466 on Jan 31, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

no way

hes up there in age,and how well will that neck hold up with that offensive line,not well. he would be in a wheel chair by week 2.help Sanchez out by getting receivers who actually care and hustle and do something about that revolving door at RT.the Jets are tight against the cap and are in no position to give away draft picks.

by michael224a on Jan 30, 2012 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Stay away

he is not coming back. A neck injury is unlike most other injuries. This guy could be one bad hit away from something that could affect the rest of his life.

Lets stop building this team like the Redskins and have a plan that lasts more than a year or two. This short term thinking never works and throwing away a 25 yr old QB with tremendous potential for a 36 yr old who has major neck concerns is not the right move.

by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 30, 2012 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks but No Thanks

The bottom line is “TOO EXPENSIVE” and we have other holes to fill on both sides of the ball. We won’t be able to do that because all the money would be spent on Manning…IMHO

by NYCKID on Jan 30, 2012 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

If he is healthy

and fitting under that umbrella of questioning is
Does he give the Jets a better chance to win the Super Bowl next year then Mark Sanchez?

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by Simon Says Jets on Jan 30, 2012 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

I think if he's healthy then the answer is yes

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by Simon Says Jets on Jan 30, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

except he's younger and better than Farve

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by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 30, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Much better than Favre...

also assuming he signs here on his own free will, he’s coming cause he wants to, not because he has to, Favre never wanted to be here, and the team he came to is not as good as the one we have now.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 30, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Younger by like 3 or 4 years,

And no, you cannot say he’s better. Brett Favre came here after a stellar if not excellent season in Green Bay, and look how that turned out. Manning’s previous seasons were equal to Brett Favre’s last season as a Packer, yet he didn’t play last season. He’s Brett Favre, but even more of a distraction trying to bring him in and he has countless injury problems that everyone is unsure enough as well.

WHAT ABOUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A SMART PLAN!?!?!?!?!?

by JetKing55 on Jan 30, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Hold on a sec, sure you can...

Manning has thrown for 4000+ yards 11 times, Favre 6 (that with 9 more seasons), Manning career QB rating is 94.9, Favre is 86. Manning is much better (if healthy), your fooling yourself if you think he’s not, he also has far less milage on him for when he would be coming here. The point is we have to know he will play, or have it a low risk move if we are unsure.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 30, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

How is

three neck surgeries in 2 years far less mileage than Favre?

by heisthejuan on Jan 30, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

something like 100 less sacks, 4 less years.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 31, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

And TWO NECK SURGERIES.

You cannot try to compare neck surgeries to sacks. Even if Favre had gotten sacks a million times, neck surgeries are much more serious.

by JetKing55 on Feb 1, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

why not?

The defense has holes, sure. We can fill what we need to in the draft. even a top 10 defense would be enough for Payton. Sanchez makes 14Mil. I can’t think of a more overpaid player right now thats not named Albert Haynsworth. Think about it: for how many more years are we going to be able to have the best cornerback duo in the league, with possibly the greatest corner of all time in his PRIME. Not to mention Mangold and Harris are in their prime as well (well Harris I would say a year or two) You take advantage of this team now.

by Brian_W on Jan 30, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

that being said

you take a chance, but I see no way that Payton comes to play for the mess that is this organization, with a head coach that can’t control his own team or even keep his mouth shut

by Brian_W on Jan 30, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats a bit over stated...

we are also one year away from being the tots of the AFC, and every player in the NFL saying they would love to play for Rex.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 30, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

*toast not tots, lol.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 30, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Freudian slip?

We were the toast of the NFL a year ago, maybe one good playcall from Schotty, or one less obvious telegraphing of a play from Hunter away from the Suberbowl.

Then, we spend the 2011 season as the toddlers of the AFC.

by ArunK on Jan 30, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Times have changed

We went from Super Bowl favorites to out of the playoffs. Everybody calling eachother out in the media, locker room disfunction……. just look at the comments from LT, a class act guy. Rex saying that he was ‘unaware’ of what was going on and didnt have a handle on his team? Isn’t that his job? Why would Payton want to come play for that? Especially with the drama he is currently enduring. Not to mention I doubt he wants to play in cold weather, and he is one Wayne Hunter mistake from messing up his neck and ruining his life.

by Brian_W on Jan 30, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea that doesn't mean much though...

you can probably point out similar problems on most teams at times, hell look at Coughlin and the Giants in 2007 and this year. Your blowing the problems way out of proportion, Peyton is going to want his best chance to win, the Jets may be that.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 30, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ultimately you have to talk to Peyton if he's released.

Maybe he isn’t released, or if he is maybe he retires, or if he doesn’t maybe he doesn’t want to come to Jets, or if he does maybe he wants 20 mil a year, or if none of that maybe he fails the (doubtlessly? at least hopefully) stringent medical check the Jets put him through.

Ultimately, the Jets need to have the choice. 36 year old injury risk named Peyton Manning, arguably the greatest player ever at the most important position in an era where it’s more important than ever. Or Sanchez.

I am in the ‘no’ camp on signing Peyton. Don’t see how the Jets don’t even kick the tyres here though.

by ArunK on Jan 30, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

colts fan here..

I have the ugly gut feeling that Peyton will play again and he will be good if not better, unlike old fart favre, peyton took this same 2-14 team to a 10-6 record playing hurt and with more injuries on the lineup the last time he played, he won the MVP with tony ugoh and took this team to a superbowl with a creppy D and no OL at all.. if the nerves regenerate, Just imagine what he could do with a good team and a good defense, unlike old fart favre this guy was playing hurt and still on MVP level, lucky the team that gives him a chance.. if he plays (5th MVP) .. and it is no joke.. did you see the same colts without him?
I just hope for the best for him. and if he wont be a colt no more :( .. then I just hope he ends up winning another ring he deserved a better team polian.. glad you are gone!

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by thebossuzzi on Jan 30, 2012 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

Big Mistake.............

Old, but great QB with a neck problem, and loss of feeling in his throwing arm. The other thing is that the Jets are no longer a team"built to win now". we got more holes than the Titanic right now. We will have 5-6 new starters on the roster next season, maybe more. We are in a minor rebuild right now. Replacing 25% of the starters is no small task. Besides, Manning would not want to play behind our O line as it stands.

by Chrebetfan on Jan 30, 2012 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

To be fair though.

In terms of overall talent this is a far superior team to the one that went to the 2009 AFC Championship game. A healthy Manning-led passing attack makes a lot of the Jets problems go away, and even an average draft will fix some of those problems anyway.

by ArunK on Jan 30, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

The oline problem is being overplayed here, its one player that needs to be replaced...

lets remember 3 out of 5 made the pro bowl, and Slauson is a decent starter, we just need a right tackle

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by Judgegavel on Jan 30, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i look at it like this

even if manning is only 50% healthy he is still better than sanchez at 110% and no matter what even if we are just gonna run the ball the defense still has to respect that its payton manning taking the snaps

by realsouthace on Jan 30, 2012 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

and if we do cut sanchez greg m could learn from the best qb in the game and we could start grooming a qb the right way

by realsouthace on Jan 30, 2012 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

NO, no no no no no no no no

We have more pressing holes to deal with

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by BlueChill on Jan 30, 2012 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

Lol

What’s more pressing than competent QB play?

by Crackback on Jan 30, 2012 10:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

A Right Tackle.

Can you imagine blowing your cap space on a 36 year old who now has to be considered a major injury risk, and not being able to protect him?

If Peyton Manning had been our qb this year, he would probably be dead by now.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jan 31, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Mark took hits because he held the ball too long and was clueless on how to step up into the pocket to avoid pressure. He also seemed to have an affinity for running INTO pressure.

Manning’s o-line in Indy was dogshit. But he got rid of the ball so fast that he made them look good. He’s also expert in stepping up into the pocket to avoid edge pressure. And teams wouldn’t have been blitzing nearly as much because they would’ve been petrified of being slaughtered.

Manning doesn’t take shots. He’s too good.

by Crackback on Jan 31, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

^this...

RT sucked but Mark deserves some blame, and thats an easy hole to fill.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 31, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Peyton would have to clear it with his Daddy.Manning had a chance years ago to be the #1 pick in the draft

which belonged to Bill Parcells and the New York Jets.Instead we drafted Keyshawn and the rest is history.Bet against Peyton in most of his playoffs games and turned a tidy profit because the bigger the game the worse he played.Only time he won the Super Bowl,his QB rating was 70.6 in 4 games.

by Putnan Prince on Jan 30, 2012 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

Not quite true......

You don’t have all your facts lined up there friend. Yes, the Jets were really interested in drafting Manning that year with their pick. But Manning wasn’t keen on being drafted #1 by the Jets who just stumbled off a 1 – 15 season to win that # 1 pick . So little Peyton opted to go back to school for 1 more year and that was the end of that story. Thank you Rich Kotite.

So yes we went out and drafted “Throwme the Dam Ball” Keyshawn Johnson.

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by Canadian Jet on Feb 1, 2012 3:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Bill Parcell's was in charge of the Jet draft in 1997 when Peyton was projected as the #1 pick of the

draft.With Parcells coming in anyone could see the Jets would turn it around.Peyton decided to use his 5th year eligibility to carry his girl friends books and to win a national championship.Manning had already got his degree and took some B.S. graduate courses to be able to play.Of course he failed again and Tennesee won the next year after he left Where are my facts not correct sir?Personally I think you should be banned from this site for one month for even mentioning the name of the idiot who coached us in 95-96..

by Putnan Prince on Feb 1, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Signing him is a no-brainer if he is willing

Also, one thing that people forget about Favre is that he made us a much better team before he got injured. We were 8-3 at one point. The coaching staff made a horrible decision letting him try and play through the injury, and he started throwing a ton of picks. If he was healthy though, we make the playoffs easily.

by Dylan87 on Jan 30, 2012 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

No way to Peyton

First of all ,with a herniated disk thay controls nerves in the tricep, it is too risky. Peyton has been slipping in a warm dome around talent that he was used to . How anyone can expect that he will come to a team that plays in severe weather, and a team that has mass needs on offense as well as defense and succeed is ludicrous. Havent we learned about gimmicks with Farve? At leat Farves neck wasnt held in place by masking tape and he had a jets team that was more intact than what Manning will be inheriting. I cant believe that after all the gimmicks and teases and with all our needs, we are barking up the quick fix tree again! When will we learn?

by joeyboy790 on Jan 30, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

If he has a clean physical...

And if the price is right and if, if, if, if…

There are scenarios where I love this move and scenarios where I hate it.

If we can work it out, it’ll be awesome. I even think it might help Sanchez. It can’t hurt your ego too much if Peyton Manning shows up and you gotta sideline a bit plus I think Manning can really help Mark out.

I think Manning is a pipe dream though. (I will have a #18 jersey if we sign him. Oh yeah, and while we’re at it, let’s grab Braylon.)

by cult hero on Jan 30, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

if u sign Peyton,u'll have to cut Sanchez

do u honestly think sanchez will accept sitting on sidelines? I mean he throws a fit when a washed-up QB(brunnell) took snaps in a practise….putting all ur $$$ into 1 player and really with No guarantee;s of making it to a superBowl..I mean How many Did Peyton win with COLTS?…are u suggesting that By adding Peyton all the locker-room BS will end?…..we need a Franchise QB and Hate me all u want but Sanchez isnt the ONE!!!…Schotty wasnt the cause of those pick-6;s…or those INT……sure Hunter gave up 8.5 sacks..BUT D’Brick gave up 9.5 sacks!!!!!

by Jack2466 on Jan 31, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Sanchez’s ass will be cut!!!! There’s no guaranty that we’ll make it to the Superbowl with MARK!!!! But there’s a much better chance to get there with MANNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Crackback on Jan 31, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

I don’t know who is the bigger ? at the moment, Manning or Sanchez. Of course, with all our luck we cut Sanchez, get Manning and Manning has a mediocre year while Sanchez makes the Pro Bowl elsewhere. Then, get rid of Manning, draft a new bust and Manning has a year like Favre’s first with the Vikings somewhere else too.

by cult hero on Jan 31, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

No. Never. I'm not gonna go through the reasons again.

No.

The Jets will win the Super Bowl one day and that will be the day i laugh in your face if your not a Jets fan.

by sanchise6 on Jan 30, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Just to repeat what I wrote on another Peyton Manning story.

If Peyton Manning was healthy from top to bottom, this would be a no brainer. But he’s not. At the same time if Mark Sanchez had three straight crap years with the Jets, then this would be an easy thing to do. It’s not.

This kid in his first two seasons got this team into the AFC Championship game. His third year he fell down along with the man below Capt. Ahab (joking about Rex of course), But Shotty helped to bring Sanchez down with all those passing plays for no reason.

Honestly, it would be a shame if the Jets turned their back on him after three years in the league and went after a broken down Peyton Manning. And don’t kid yourself right now, because Manning is broken right now.

One solid hit and the neck goes, then what’s gonna happen? I want this kid who can be a leader and at the same time needs to grow up alot more, can get this team to the promise land.

It’s time to bring back his other favorite weapon in Braylon Edwards and fix that front 5 who will protect him. He didn’t regress all by himself, he had help. Mr. T, Shotty, and the failure of the front 5 along with Santonio Holmes helped him out.

We shouldn’t abandon Mark Sanchez, we can’t abandon Mark Sanchez, why should the failure of this season override the positive first two. Support Sanchez and when the next season starts in September, hopefull he will be the one to sweep the Pats and finally get over the hump.

I SAY NAY TO PEYTON MANNING!

by NYR #35 Richter on Jan 30, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

I say Peyton at 70% is better than Sanchez at 100%

If the Jets have the chance to get this guy, you do it. He will cover up any holes on defense and he will keep the WR’s happy. Whats the worst thing that happens if he isnt healthy, we turn to McElroy? Is he that much of a drop off from Sanchez? I bet he protects the football better.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 30, 2012 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

Greg has a smaller arm than chad

you won’t realize how much you hate that til you witness it.

by darshv3 on Jan 30, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Still not much of a drop off from the current guy

Ive heard from many that McElroy is a much smarter QB too.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 30, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

So what was the point of picking this kid and why is he still on the team?

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by YankeesJets on Jan 30, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He happened to be lying around in the seventh round

so we took him there to be a backup. I don’t think anyone drafts someone in the seventh round with the intention of them being a franchise quarterback.

by darshv3 on Jan 30, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said to make him a franchise QB though

I said if they picked up Manning and he went down, this kid could fill in.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 31, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

ne did....

as said what round did Brady get drafted at?…he is a franchise QB…became one His 2nd yr…. a late round pick usually produces the better players at certain positions..How many USC QB;s drafted high have made it as a franchise QB?

and WE the JETS knocked out Bledsoe.and thus began NE;s New Franchise QB!!!

by Jack2466 on Jan 31, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

This is nuts

The only scenario that Peyton to the Jets makes sense is if he is healthy enough to play for another 5 or 6 years (this is obviously not the case or the Colts wouldn’t be letting him go).

If Manning is healthy, he is playing for another year, maybe two…tops. Should we really cut bait on a potential long-term, franchise QB for a year or two of past-prime Manning? Is he mentoring his replacement in that time, or do we just dump him after two years and pick up an aging Tom Brady? Maybe after that, Aaron Rodgers will break his neck and we can pick him up for cheap. Insane.

Dumping Sanchez after 3 years and two AFC Championship appearances would be malpractice. I really don’t see it any other way. It’s ridiculous. Mark’s performance over the past 3-years under a sub-par OC should have earned him a little patience from us. Should the Giants have cut Eli after 3 years? Should the Chargers have gotten rid of Brees?

Don’t get suckered in by Manning…he’s like a 45-year old Pamela Anderson…looked awesome back in the day and might look ok now, but not really worth blowing your load over.

by O-Insanity on Jan 30, 2012 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

Found at GangGreen.com

I wonder if the following may change some people’s minds.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu…_irsay01 3012

INDIANAPOLIS – For all the discussion over Peyton Manning’s future with the Indianapolis Colts, the underlying issue is that people close to him don’t believe he’ll resume his career.

The nerves in Manning’s arm are not healing as quickly as hoped and, worse, don’t appear to be progressing at enough of a rate to indicate that he will play again, according to two sources with knowledge of Manning’s rehabilitation from neck surgery. The vertebrae in his neck that were fused have healed as expected and Manning began throwing in December. But he hasn’t shown improvement in velocity on his passes, and the two sources fear he likely never will again.

In addition, two league-affiliated doctors with experience in spinal fusion surgery said it could take up to a year before Manning knows if he can return. Both said the risk is too great for Manning to play again and, because of the timeline, neither would recommend the Colts pay Manning the $28 million bonus he is owed in March.

Manning couldn’t be reached for comment.

[ Related: WR Underwood sports patriotic haircut ]

Colts owner Jim Irsay declined to talk about Manning’s health on Monday before a news conference, but did say, "There are no cases of quarterbacks going through this."

Irsay may have no choice but to let go of Manning. While some people have tried to paint the situation as Irsay choosing to move on from Manning as he rebuilds the Colts after a 2-14 season, that was not Irsay’s intention months ago. In October, Irsay discussed the optimal situation of having both Manning and his heir apparent on the roster simultaneously.

"Guys like that come along so rarely," Irsay said on Oct. 10 at an NFL owners meeting in Houston, referring to Manning and perceived No. 1 overall pick Andrew Luck (although Irsay has since indicated that Robert Griffin III could also be the selection). "Even if that means that guy sits for three or four years, you’d certainly think about taking him … you see what Green Bay did with [Brett] Favre and [Aaron] Rodgers and you’d like to be able to do the same thing."

At this point, that scenario is unlikely and not because Irsay doesn’t want to pay the money for Manning. Rather, Manning has hit a plateau in his rehabilitation in terms of getting stronger, both sources said. While atrophy in the arm was expected, the fact that it hasn’t improved recently is an ominous sign.

[ Related: Irsay says he’s done talking about Manning amid Super Bowl week ]

"If you’re getting consistent improvement, then that’s OK. Even if it’s going from lifting 10 pounds to 15 pounds to 20 pounds over a stretch of weeks, that’s fine," said a doctor who has not seen Manning but has a background in spinal surgery. "If you hit a plateau, that’s a problem. … Now, I say that, but I also tell patients who have been through it that it can take up to a year to find out exactly how much strength you’re going to get back

"Right now, Peyton is at about six months. He should have a much better idea by July or August just how far he’s going to get … even then, that’s only a part of it. You can tell about 80 percent of how the nerves and the muscles are healing by rehab. What you really have to see is how his arm holds up when he starts to throw. Does he have the same velocity on the 15-yard out? Can he throw the 60-yard pass? Can he throw for 30 minutes before his arm gets tired? Can he throw for an hour? It’s a very complicated process." It’s a process Irsay may not be able to gamble on at this point.

As for Manning’s side of it, he remains confident that he will return to action next season even as the progress remains slow. Last week in an extensive interview with Bob Kravitz of the Indianapolis Star, Manning expressed frustration as to why so many people who he has worked with over the years have been let go by the team, including team president Bill Polian and coach Jim Caldwell. While Manning understands the team needing to move forward, he believes he will be able to play again.

[ Yahoo! Sports Radio: Jason Cole on Irsay-Manning relationship]

"Any athlete is going to remain confident," one source said. "He wants to play again. He’s going to do everything he can to get out there."

Sadly, that may not be enough.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Alexander Tyler

by joeklecko on Jan 31, 2012 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Great quotes Joe.

This is such a dividing topic to begin with. It’s made all the worse with the uncertainty around Mannings health.
Jet fans have months worth of fighting over this topic ahead of us.
Your quote’s don’t make the issue any more setteled for the pro Manning camp either.
I don’t even think this guy is gonna play next season to be honest.

by Can'tWait on Jan 31, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

no no no no

rod messley [cb1]

by Rod Messley on Jan 31, 2012 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

NO MANNING 4 JETS

Donovan Mcnabb same age,better value…….plus no injury…..Sanchez needs competitiion and know he is not a automatic qb

by JETRULE69 on Jan 31, 2012 12:25 AM EST reply actions  

agreed

except that mcnabb sucks

by jetsmets65 on Feb 1, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

follow up

MANNING is a stiff,cant run,offensive line would have to work harder,…just need OT right side….maybe JOHN MARTIN 6’6 316 22…..MOORE 34,PLAYED HURT,JETS NEED NEW BLOOD….DAVID DECOSTA 6’5 322 22 WOULD be perfect in the draft,…..bring in DONOVAN MCNABB,…….SAY NO TO MANNING,LETS NOT RECIEVE SOMEONE ELSES GARBAGE

by JETRULE69 on Jan 31, 2012 12:31 AM EST reply actions  

Manning?

So if Manning is questionable.
The follow up should be:
Do you stick with Sanchez or look elsewhere?

by JETS SACK on Jan 31, 2012 12:43 AM EST reply actions  

MCNABB

MCNABB is hungry,played with plaxico,and can run and throw

by JETRULE69 on Jan 31, 2012 1:29 AM EST reply actions  

Do you not watch Football?

McNabb’s been washed up the last two years.

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by Mark D on Jan 31, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

the line up

sanchez vs mcnabb,and connelley #3rd QB

by JETRULE69 on Jan 31, 2012 1:31 AM EST reply actions  

I would go with----

Sanchez vs McNabb and McElroy….I might even put McElroy ahead of McNabb….look what he did last yr in MINN!!!!..also last yr pre-season games McElroy was playing better than Sanchez was…plus He did have 4yrs college ball.won big games..Has Smarts!!!! both football as well as education…(Rhodes Scholar)

by Jack2466 on Jan 31, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Hello, oh it's for you, it's 2008 calling

They are asking if Jet’s fans learned their lesson of be careful what they wish for…

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by Mark D on Jan 31, 2012 1:41 AM EST reply actions  

Poor comparison...

this is a much different team than 2008 and Peyton is a far better player. Not to mention as many pointed out the Favre experiment did not go as wrong as most think, we were on the way to the playoffs (with a very mediocre team) because of Favre, the coaching staff not keeping him out and playing him injured is why we failed.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 31, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Not at all

We’d still be in the position of “What Now” when Manning retires, especially if we dump Sanchez.

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by Mark D on Jan 31, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

TRUE

MCELROY VS SANCHEZ VS MCNABB
regardless the best player starts

by JETRULE69 on Jan 31, 2012 2:00 AM EST reply actions  

I can see it now.....

Standing on the 45 yard line – Sanchez and McElroy are throwling spirrals to a line-up of WR’s on each side of as the QB’s rotate their deep sideline throws. The receivers are catching the balls around the goal line or well inside the endzone from both sides.

Meanwhile old All-Pro Donnovan McNabb gets into the spirit of things for the same drill. He got 2 teams of WE’s lining up as well for him on the sidelines running deep sideline roots from the 15 yard line. Donnavan is right into his grrove this morning as he yells at a rookie to leave a ball alone after it struck a tackling dummy 6 yds. deep in the endzone. The kid trys to argue nack a bit about what he’s actually found but receives a reprimand. …meanwhile a cheerful McNabb is nearly giddy with his performance in this Team Building drill. He feel the mojo coming back to him. He was coached to hit his receivers and he did. ot a perfect score of twelve. “Let me revel in the moment” Of course onl 3 of McNabb’s receivers were on the same page with him and actuallyy caught the ball withouth dropping it. The rest of the crew would be graded either " totally hopeless" or “Totally terrible”’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’

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by Canadian Jet on Jan 31, 2012 3:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m proud to say that I’m in Sanchez’s corner on this mess of media crap. Listening to the report on Sunday night – Bob Costas & Tony Dungie noted that it was a pretty grey area surrounding Peyton’s health. Apparanently he has difficulty with some of his excerice routine and his throwing is basically for the “shits”. I think they edited that last word out and put in a more PG Family sensitive adjective. – pick one: fucking awful, throws like a girl, maybe have him try it left handed this time. Bottom line was he doesn’t have very much strenght in the upper body. Great, sounding more and more like everyone wants to sign Chad Pennington Clone version 3.0 – note good ole #10 did do the first two impressions on his own here in Jetland. We don’t talk about that mistake in Tunafin land. Sound about right?

"It's only through change we learn to grow".

by Canadian Jet on Jan 31, 2012 3:29 AM EST reply actions  

Ya'll lost your minds.

Manning is not 100%. He had a serious injury. Why would you want to go through this Brett Farve type fiasco again. And no, a 70% Manning is not better than a 100% Sanchez. A 70% Manning will become a 0% Manning after 1 good hit. You know, the kind of hits Sanchez took ALL SEASON LONG. Sure Peyton will get the ball out faster but he still gonna get hit.

The Colts team was built to enhance P. Manning’s strengths. That is why the Colts folded this year. Who knows how well he would do with our roster. Also, we act like the Manning is winning every superbowl. He’s not. He’s human. He loses. He throws picks just like Sanchez. Jets play alot of tough teams, not to mention we have to play the Patriots and Miami twice a year. Miami may be inconsistent but the Pats are always competitive. Can you say the same thing for the Colts?

Finally,
Nnamdi Asomugha Contract With Philadelphia. Nnamdi Asomugha Contract With Philadelphia. Nnamdi Asomugha Contract With Philadelphia.

While we chase pipe dreams, we let other talent get picked up.

by GrendelKen on Jan 31, 2012 4:20 AM EST reply actions  

We must make a move....because

our QB in his first three years has completed 690 out of 1276 passes for 54%, while only throwing 10 more TD’s then Interceptions. He must be done.

Oh wait….those aren’t Mark Sanchez’ stats.

THOSE ARE ELI MANNINGS STATS FROM HIS FIRST THREE YEARS.

Know what they did after his first three years? They fired the OC and went with a new one. (*I think it was after his third year….might have been second or fourth. But you get my point.)

Give Mark another year, please. That’s my vote.

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by CharlieIsles on Jan 31, 2012 8:40 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Good comment

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by ProfScorpio on Jan 31, 2012 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

Hearing more and more reports that he's going to hang it up

His neck is not healing. It’s not his spine, its the nerve from his neck that is connected to his triceps. He has no control in his triceps in his throwing arm, and the nerve isn’t healing.

by manuvsteal on Jan 31, 2012 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

Schaub?

Reading through Texans blogs, there is a lot of talk about dropping Schaub and grabbing Manning. I have always been a big Schaub fan. The price is going to be low for him. Is he a better fit for the Jets? He would cost less and we could really lowball the Texans for a trade. They need the cap space. I know there are injury concerns but I have to believe its just bad luck and a bad O-line. If you look at the stats of Schaub vs. Manning, they are very similar. Completion%, Y/G, Y/A, QB rating. The biggest difference is TDs. But Manning has never had a decent running game of pounding the ball into the end zone. Schaub has had that. He hasn’t been asked to finish off drives five yards out. We can give him that again. Just get us close Matt, we’ll finish the job. And aside from Andre Johnson, who is a BEAST, who has he had to throw to? Kevin Walter? Owen Daniels? Serviceable, sure, but when AJ was hurt did anybody step up and impress? In short, although I wish he was just a liiiiittle younger, if the Texans seriously pursue Manning beyond what we can match, I think we should give the Texans a little ring-a-ling. Oh yeah, and his cap hit is $6 million less than Sanchez this year.

by th27patrick on Jan 31, 2012 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

Actually...

I don’t mind that at all.

by cult hero on Jan 31, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem with Schaub

are injuries. 3 of his 5 seasons starting he missed games for Houston.

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by Mark D on Jan 31, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on the price...

I can see bringing him in if cut, and having him battle it out with Sanchez, but how much would he cost.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 31, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I see getting manning, but...

manning has 1-3 years left. he would help the jets win now, but where does that leave us in a few years? we would be the 2011 colts. a team without a qb and gaping holes all over the field. I vote stay with sanchez, draft a #1 reciever, and get a safety that can cover gronk. we’ll be better off for the future. some more food for thought, “elite” eli manning had similar numbers to sanchez through his first 3 years. Also, drew brees took a couple of years to catch up to the game in the nfl

by revis24fan on Jan 31, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

more

IMO more stupid talk of Manning to Jets, yea hof QB but he still needs time to throw, one good hit away from ending career or lost for season. We already made so so decisions in the draft with little picks we had and the FA signings and need to recover from that. Our defense is slow, we need O line help, LB help, safety help, WR help, and were talking about one guy who’s a big maybe. I rather have a dominant defense and develop a QB than a potential has been coming back from a serious injury.

Even Manning to us still doubtful for us to appear in the SB with so many holes, he made it only once and he had a real good offense and his defense had a good pass rush.

by ocjet on Jan 31, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

You know...

Everyone is one hit away from from ending their career. Ask Joe Theismann. No one is going to take Manning without a physical that checks out. If he passes that, I’m not going to lose any sleep over it. The dude played how many seasons without missing a game? Come on.

And can we calm down about the “holes.” Can you please point out a team without a bunch of holes. How about Green Bay? 15-1 with the following:

1. Weak running game.
2. No secondary to speak of (and Charles Woodson may be the most overrated defensive player of all time).
3. A mediocre defense when not talking about the secondary.

Or how about them Patriots:

1. Weak running game.
2. No secondary to speak of.
3. A mediocre defense when not talking about the secondary.

Should I even comment on the other team going to the Superbowl?

I mean, we have holes but you guys talk like we’re the Colts or the Rams or the Browns or the Bills. We’re not.

by cult hero on Feb 1, 2012 3:54 AM EST up reply actions  

gave me an idea for another post

by ocjet on Feb 1, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

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