The Ohio State Elephant in the room
Everyone has an opinion these days of the disarray in the Jets organization. I have a feeling that Shottenheimer won't be back, even if Rex Ryan says so. Shotty is one of 3 guys interviewing for the Jags head coaching spot, and if he doesn't get the job, he will be out as coach anyway, sometime in the next 6 weeks. The reason he isn't out now, is because the Jets are keeping things quiet following a disappointing season. The playoffs are still going on, and what direction is this team going? Will it be ground and pound, air it out, or balanced play action, or short west coast?
The answer is they don't know. The front office and owner know things haven't worked, but they are in meetings this week to figure out how to make the offense click. Until they know what they want the offense to be, there is no need to publicly execute the current offensive coordinator. Then you have the playoff teams like the Saints, Packers, and Texans. All these teams have had perennially high powered offenses for at least the last 3 seasons. Again, the Jets may want to inquire as to the availability of some of those coordinators and don't want to make a public splash by firing someone, before privately checking into the availability of these guys. That being said, you can bet that by the Superbowl, there will be a new coach for this offense.
Now lets get to the meat and potatoes here. His name is Santonio Holmes. He is the ugliest thing to happen to the Jets since Dwayne Robertson was drafted to be the nose tackle of the future. At least Robertson had a good attitude. Here is how you fix this situation.
You cut him. Cut Santonio Holmes now. Sooner is better than later. He is owed 7 million and if he is on the roster March 1st he's owed 8 million. The answer. Cut him now. If the Jets get rid of him, even though he signed a 5 year 50 million deal, they don't have to pay that much, or nearly that much towards the cap. If they cut him before March 1st and he is signed by another team, the other teams deal with him is removed from what the Jets would have to pay him. In other words, if he is signed by the Eagles (who aren't going to re-sign Desean Jackson) for 4, 5 , or even 6 million, that would come out of what the Jets have to pay him. Holmes is in his prime, and he will definitely play somewhere this season, even if it's not on the Jets. The Redskins, Eagles, Dolphins, Bills, Seahawks, Cardinals, Bears, Browns, and several other teams could use a play making wide receiver. One of them would jump on him.
The Jets can do what they should have done last season. Resign Braylon Edwards who is coming off a knee injury and a rough season. He had 4 other WR's playing in front of him despite his talent level. His value has been severely depreciated and they can get him back for probably half of what Holmes got this off season. The problem with Holmes is that he was never a #1 WR, and he never will be. He had Hines Ward, then Mike Wallace, then Braylon Edwards to draw the coverages as he ate up the big plays. He's a glorified #2 like Peerless Price when the Bills were throwing to Eric Moulds. This somehow made him the number 1 guy, even though he has never carried a team. If he's a cancer, which he's shown to be this year, and which Pittsburgh gladly unloaded him for, you may as well not wait til tomorrow what you can do today.
It is human to make a mistake (front offices make them all the time). It is stupid to not to admit the mistake and keep the guy on the team to save a few dollars. I live in the south Jersey area, and I hear a lot of Eagles news, as much as the Jets and Giants. The Eagles are in a must win season next year or players and coaches are out, and Desean Jackson has publicly stated he didn't play well because he didn't have a contract. The Eagles aren't going to re-sign a guy that purposely crapped on them, and give him an multi-year extension. Cut Holmes. Sign Jackson. If the Eagles can franchise tag him now, they could do a 1 for 1 swap of disgruntled wide receivers in March, or just before the draft. Money-wise the trade works.
The Jets look like they publicly handled the bad attitude guy, and made an example by shipping him off to another team. It works for the Eagles because they were going to dump Jackson anyway. 2012 is superbowl or Vick, and Andy Reid are out the door. At least they get a veteran play making wide receiver to go with Jeremy Macklin. The Jets than take Jackson's franchise tag and work on a 4 year 30-40 million contract and he's happy, and the 11 million franchise tag is reduced to 6 or 7 million.
Now the draft is rolling around, and the Jets have decided they want to go back to a running offense with more vertical passing since Sanchez is best suited for that. They tab Bill Callahan as the new offensive coordinator. Rex feels confident with him because he knows him, and he's a company man. He'll work on developing the line, and the only major change is a new QB coach for Sanchez.
The Jets can draft a lineman, a linebacker, and a safety no problem. Alabama has 2 safeties, and there's always multiple pass rushing defensive ends that convert to linebackers. This past draft proved that with Ryan Kerrigan 7 sacks, Donte Moch, Brooks Reed 7 sacks, KJ Wright . Jabaal Sheard who had 8.5 sacks this year. They are all over the place in the draft, and you can get them up to the 4th round or so. In 2012 don't worry about Courtney Upshaw, when theres Nick Perry, Vinny Curry, Brandon Jenkins, Bruce Irvin, Keenan Robinson, and Nigel Bradham who can all contribute as pass rushers and coverage OLB's, and they don't all have to be drafted early.
With a new attitude, a new offensive philosophy. A fresh face at QB coach for Sanchez, and the cancer of Holmes gone for the bright attitude of Edwards, and the deep speed of Jackson, the Jets will enter 2012 as younger, faster, hungrier, better coached, and more talented.
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Looks like you want to trade one diva for another?
Imagine what DJ is going to be like when he gets 1 ball thrown at him per game?
absolutely
All or most wide receivers are divas. The only thing that changes is once they sour on your team, how do you handle it? You can’t ignore it and act like it didn’t happen. You do something about it. Swapping Holmes for Jackson would give them both fresh faces in New Places. Everyone saves face, its a win win.
Not to that, to the first comment.
Trading a divaa for a diva will just give you another diva as soon as he realizes his situation is crappier than his last.
there is one thing that you said:
The Redskins, Eagles, Dolphins, Bills, Seahawks, Cardinals, Bears, Browns, and several other teams could use a play making wide receiver. One of them would jump on him.
I am looking at the seahawks:
fix 80% of the jets personell problems like this. Holmes and our #1 and #4 plus a conditional 2013 #3 pick for Seahawks Earl Thomas and seattle’s #3
We can then use our 2nd rd pick for a excellent RT
As crazy as it sounds this fixes the most glaring problems the jets have (personnel wise) we still need to fire Shotty
You Give Away WAAAAY TOO Much
Holmes, our #1 and #4 this year and possibly the #3 next year for Earl Thomas and a #3??? Boy am I glad you aren’t our GM!!!!!
"Reality is purely the perception of the individual mind. It follows, that since no two minds are alike, no two perceptions of reality are alike. It further follows, that what reality is to one, may seem complete madness to someone else."
– Yefim Novikov
actually it is not WAAY to much
The biggest need is safety, there are not many legit safeties comming out this year. Earl Thomas is elite as far as safetys go. I would rather get proven talent…BEAST than take a gamble, cause we really are one or two pieces away from a true dominate defense.
To get an impact player from another team is going to cost and cost big.
Short sitedness will get you nowhere…. its a good deal…if the seahawks bite, a really good deal.
I understand Tone was a jerk this year but why does everyone want to get rid of him?
Yes Tone is a diva but he’s still a very good receiver with a lot of positive traits. He looks out for the younger guys to try and help them along (see Hard Knocks).
Judging from Tone’s remarks after the game, he is looking forward to working out with Mark in the off season so I expect those two to kiss and make up soon.
One thing I admire about men is their ability to move on after a disagreement.
All of those negative remarks and hurt feelings from this year will be long gone by next season as long as Schotty stays out of the bldg.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
See below for my thoughts.
This really seems to have cut deep with the players. I have almost never seen such a public display of frustration with one player. it may be impossible to fix with the players, Schotty or not…
I agree
Keep Holmes, we need to get to the source of the heated exchange last week and Sunday between he and Mark. Maybe he was just pissed because he could see the potential of the team and the direction it was going not being conducive to winning. He is a competitor and expressed his emotions but we are looking from the outside in he is on the inside and nobody in the organization is talking. Until we really know what its all about ……….I say keep Tone and bring back Edwards
Although on the face of it it seems rediculous to axe Holmes
based on his ability, our needs at the position, and the contract issue(s), it actaully may be necessary. There are more stories today that include names (Slauson again, Turner and Cromartie of all people) going on the record strongly implying they want him gone. There are statements about this stuff going back to October when he called out the O-line, and more importantly players claiming his practice habits were so bad they were unlike anything seen before in the NFL. It may actually be impossible to keep the guy, and it seems to me that it is very likely he is dumped one way or another.
As a final rant, while everyone is on Rex’s case for, among other things, making him a captain, how about the contract he was given? In the off season we all know they would only keep one of Edwards or Holmes. I was not in love with Holmes the way some here were. I felt he was overrated and small, while Edwards was more of a deep threat and a big target for our inaccurate QB. I did think Holmes was a better receiver than Edwards, but because of these things did not really think they should go all out for one over the other (Sanchez had been doing well without Holmes. Over his last 7 games between 2009-2010 (including the playoffs) before Holmes showed up Sanchez QB rating was well over 90. When they resigned Holmes I was shocked by the contract First-it was a massive overpay in the first plaice. But to make it nearly impossible to dump him, given his past history, seems amazingly stupid. Another mark on Tanny’s resume.
Some great points.
I’m kind of in the “keep Holmes and make him happy” camp. But that doesn’t mean I can’t be swayed.
As far as need goes. I wonder if the team will view Kerley as a capable, cheaper copy of Holmes’ abilities and that fact will further push the team to release him when considering all the things you just said.
Getting a TRUE deep threat WR in the first round would also make me feel better about getting rid of him. However I don’t think the team will go that way.
There are more stories today that include names (Slauson again, Turner and Cromartie of all people) going on the record strongly implying they want him gone.
Huh? I didn’t know Turner and Cro were talking too. So pretty much the entire team is against him.
I have stayed clear of ESPN because they are taking a little too much pleasure in the Jets misery so I just thought LDT’s remarks and the unnamed players from Sunday were all that was said about the Tone issue.
sigh I like Tone because of what he can do on the field but if that many guys are speaking out about him the Jets have a tough decision to make.
I was also shocked at the amount of money Tone was given but the combination of the money owed on dudes contract and his temper tantrums is why I think the Jets are stuck with him.
Maybe Tone will light up a spliff this off season, then he won’t be a problem for the entire year.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
You can find the story on Newsday (or got to jetsblog).
Thing is that given his rep in Pittsburgh it just seemed luck such a risk to give so much guaranteed money…an incentive-laced contract would have made much more sense (and I doubt that it would have hindered the Jets from keeping him teams stayed away from him like the plague when the Steelers shopped him).
nice post
and way to think outside the box .
if we could get a quality safety in a swap for holmes then lets get it done . maybe we ship him to the browns for tj ward or the chiefs for berry . any team with a good safety and a need at wr should be looked at . or a RT for that matter.
if its for you it won't pass you
not berry
berry is no doubt the better safety…probably the best young safety in the NFL but he is injury prone and thats not cool for a player so young.
As for your above Scott is on the wrong side of 30 and will not make the seahawks bite for just a second…when you look at earl thomas a first is just going to scratch the surface for any negotiations.
That being said Earl is our guy…young and a flippin ball hawk!
we can not give up our second..we need the best best RT avalible and a 3-5 rounder will not cut it
well look what the fins gave up for marshall
two 2nd round picks for a top 5 wr . we only got a 5th for rhodes .
but i think holmes and scott together with two 2nd round picks is a very fair price . the only way i’d give up a 1st is if we did it on draft day after trading back
if its for you it won't pass you
perhaps but....
scott alone is only worth a 4 or 5th mayyyyybe a 3rd. over the hill and over rated…so basically a 2nd and say 4th and holmes for an elite safety…no team would bite, (as we have seen holmes is not really an elite #1 reciever….great #2 ok maybe) you got to sweeten the deal or they wont bite….originally i was saying we take thomas and their 3rd as well
Holmes needs to be somewhere that will actually use him
Call me crazy but, if you’re paying a player the kind of green that Holmes is making, wouldn’t you actually throw him the damn ball or game plan around him just a little bit more?
It seems like ever since the reports of Holmes, Plax, and Mason complaining to Rex about Brain Shittycaller’s offense, the wide outs were game planned out of the offense.
Honestly, if you’re a GD play-making machine like Holmes would you be able to stomach this miserable excuse for an offense that BS comes up with? How the hell can you keep a guy like Santonio mentally engaged in an impotent offense that features pathetically futile 3-5 yard outs and slants over and F’ing over again. The key words being impotent and futile.
You can’t keep high-priced diva receivers, or any good offensive player for that matter, happy in this garbage system. I don’t even think at this point you could call what Schottenheimer is putting out there a system, unless 3 and out is a system now.
They did give him the ball
I did a post on here a while ago after the Eagles game. Holmes was thrown at 92 times or so, Keller 90 times, and Burress 86 times. Holmes only caugt half the passes thrown his way. So when you DO use him, and DO throw to him. He only comes up with the ball half the time. Why would you throw someone the ball more, when they can only catch it half the time? Holmes is a Robin, he’s not and never will be a Batman. Don’t care if you pay 100k for a Hyundai, that don’t make it a Mercedes.
I bet the Pats would pick up Holmes first
and he would kill us when he faced us
by Clarke W. Griswald on Jan 3, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions
Tone just said what everyone was thinking
Everyone needs to man up and get their panties out of a bunch
Keep Tone
If we keep Tone after he gets his head out of his ass, then bring Bray back, I like the Tone, Bray, Kerley, and Turner WR, with Keller and cumberland TE rec group. We need a lot of help elsewhere. If schotty goes there might be better attitudes from everyone. Look at Derrick Mason I felt he was always a team player and professional, but he spoke his peace and the Jets got rid of him. They got rid of the wrong guy. Bottom line the Jets sucked at coaching this year on both sides. We need help and can’t give up our draft picks anymore, we need to build and even pick up some young FA’s who can contribute right away.
cut Holmes and sign Jackson?
are you nuckin futz!!! if we cut Holmes there is no way in hell we try and replace him with another immature A-Hole at WR, we would need to draft a WR with our 1st round ( Malcolm Floyd maybe) and also get someone to replace that slow lanky afraid to get hit assclown Plaxico…bottomline is we HAVE to keep holmes, whether we like it or not, hopefully the offseason makes him realize how selfish and ignorant hes been.
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
yes lets bring Bray back get rid of Plax
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
Looks like Terry Bradshaw agrees with me!
Get this guy out of town. Send him packing on down I 95. Why start a season trying to fix a problem? Get rid of his ass, and start the season with no problem. Greg McElroy and half the locker room already agree with me too.

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