Potential Jets: Kareem McKenzie

Definitely not IMO. When I have watched the Giants this year, Kareem has looked absolutely terrible. On occasions he has been absolutely schooled. I honestly don’t see this as much of an upgrade over Hunter and that is saying something. He will be 33 when the season kicks off and his decline over the past two years is worrying. I’ll pass on this one.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 29, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions

I'm really wondering who is gonna be our right tackle

doesn’t look like there are too many good free agents

by darshv3 on Jan 29, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions

I wanna say no, but I'll take whatever I can get to be perfectly honest

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by Bro Namath on Jan 29, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions

There has to be something better, right?

There has to be. Now excuse me while I keep repeating that.

by ArunK on Jan 29, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions

NO

we dont need another mid 30s player that will probably demand a good chunk of salary

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by AFCxxBEAST on Jan 29, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions

Nah

We better hope that we can coach someone up. That would like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound! But we do need help….

by flawed911 on Jan 29, 2012 2:15 PM EST via Android app reply actions

You're Gonna Base the Season on HOPE???

That’s what the Jets did last season. How did that work out exactly?

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by joeklecko on Jan 29, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions

no no and no

young players please,no stop gap old players who want to make their last paycheck.

by michael224a on Jan 29, 2012 3:41 PM EST reply actions

As a General Rule

I agree with you, but imo there’s no way the Jets can adequately address all of their needs in the draft, and there just aren’t the young developmental prospects in FA that are available and who the Jets could depend upon. Even if the Jets draft a young RT, we’ve learned from experience (or at least hopefully all have) that you HAVE to have experienced back ups on the OL. Rookies struggle and injuries are part of the game.

If they don’t sign a “stop gap” player at RT, how would you suggest the Jets address the RT starting spot and his backup???

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by joeklecko on Jan 29, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions

I have a feeling Mike Adams may be the best way to go

Which means no first round pass rusher :(. Unless Vlad can somehow have an epiphany and become Damien Woody 2.0.

by darshv3 on Jan 29, 2012 3:50 PM EST reply actions

Is He the Long-Term Answer?

No, but I believe that at a minimum he would be solid insurance in case the rookie the Jets draft isn’t ready by opening day or in case Ducasse still isn’t ready. At a maximum, I think he would give the Jets solid play at RT for a year, maybe two if need be. If the rookie RT panned out and was ready to start by the opening week, McKenzie would be depth, and if Ferguson went down with a serious injury, the rookie would probably have to slide to LT and McKenzie could man the Jets would need some solid depth.

If there’s one thing that all Jets fans (and hopefully Rex and Tanny) should have learned from this past season, it’s that it’s not wise to enter a season without veteran depth on the OL. If Turner is back, he can backup C and OG, but at the very least, they need a solid, experienced OT to backup and more likely, start at RT.

Even if the Jets draft a RT in the first round, there’s no guarantee he won’t get injured or will be ready to start in week 1. McKenzie shouldn’t be all that expensive. He’s on the downside of his career. His play has tailed off a little. His contract could be structured with performance bonuses where if his play remained at a high level, he’d get paid more. That should serve as protection both for the Jets and motivation for McKenzie.

For all of those who voted no, I truly would like to know how you would address the RT spot.. If there’s another veteran out there as good as McKenzie and likely as cheap, who is it?

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by joeklecko on Jan 29, 2012 4:38 PM EST reply actions

I would rather give Hunter another chance before this guy

Think about it this way, McKenzie looked terrible protecting an elite QB, how much worse will he look protecting the Sanchize?

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by YankeesJets on Jan 29, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions

I have some ideas, but y'all ain't gonna like them

I don’t think they’re that great myself. But instead of going after a FA guy clearly in decline,
we could:
1) keep what we have (Hunter/Ducasse/Howard) and use some of our later picks on good-but-not-great prospects in the late draft rounds
2) trade up, or for more early picks ,and draft a legit prospect higher than we should
3) wait until FA, the draft, and camps begin to cut down the herd for other teams and hope to grab someone another team loses in a numbers game

I told you you wouldn’t like them!

by jkoyon on Jan 29, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions

I actually think we could have a training camp competition of sorts

Kinda like they did with Slauson and Vlad after Faneca left. It’d be risky though.

by darshv3 on Jan 29, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions

You're Right! LOL

I haven’t given up on Ducasse, and don’t know Howard, but Hunter should be gone. They could use the cap space, he’s more of a finesse blocker, and is simply awful. Trading up is an AWFUL suggestion. It’s why the Jets have all the holes they do know. If Tanny trades up, I’m done with this team until he’s fired.

I like #3 the best. Even if they sign a FA OT, I think they need to draft a RT prospect somewhere in rounds 3-5. Hopefully, someone will shake free towards the end of TC.

I don’t watch the Giants. McKenzie may have been awful vs the pass rush, but according to stats at least did well in the rushing attack. He may bounce back in a different system, with a different coach, but maybe not. I just haven’t seen anyone on the FA list better unless it’s Gaither, and he probably would be more expensive.

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by joeklecko on Jan 29, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions

Kareem McKenzie

Get real, he is done. We need a legitamte upgrade that can last a couple of years.

by joeyboy790 on Jan 29, 2012 6:48 PM EST reply actions

I would rather

Winston Hill gave it another go before we go after McKenzie

by knucklehead62 on Jan 29, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions

Time to be creative.....

WE have an opportunity to look around in Free Agency at who is available. At first pass Mckenzenie is a no-go for me. I’m not sure if there is anybody else out there or not. I’m not sure if there are any FA Guards available as well. Someone in a different thread suggested moving Slauson to RT and either drafting or replacing by Free Agency a new LG. That’s being creative. Whether Slauson’s up to the job is another thing but first things first. We keep moving down the checklist and see where we get with our options. So if we find a respectable Guard in FA great, let’s move along. The Draft, a different view for us now. Its not going to be our 1st pick and probably not our 2nd. We’re probably looking somewhere in the vicinity of Rounds 3-5 and thinking later than earlier for a pick on the OL. WE’ll probably see a second pick at #6. So going to camp we should have at least 3 new guys + a # of UDFA’s to look at. That will leave us with all of camp to see what we’ve got and give us a clearer picture of where we are going for 2012. The last piece on the checklist is to look at league cutdowns and see if there are any names that jump out that could prove useful to our needs. That’s how I see our off-season going for 2012 on the OL. Oh..there’s one last option…doesn’t happen alot but is a possibility…Trade…..we make a play for another team’s OL’s.

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by Canadian Jet on Jan 30, 2012 4:27 AM EST reply actions