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La Canfora: "Decision to 'Move On' From Manning Made by Indy Weeks Ago"

Since I cannot seem to stop the Peyton Manning speculation on GGN, instead I will feed it like a bear that will surely turn on me one day. When you can't beat them, join them.

Jason La Canfora, insider for NFLN and one of the most reliable recent regular breakers of major sporting news, makes some notable claims detailed in this article from the NFL. La Canfora says that Colts owner Jim Irsay has already decided that the Peyton Manning saga in Indianapolis will end for certain this offseason:

"According to sources who were involved in the Colts’ GM search, the organization was planning to move on from Manning weeks ago, well before this public squabble between the quarterback and his owner," NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora said Friday on "NFL Total Access."

La Canfora reported the Colts will make a move on Manning "almost certainly" before the start of the 2012 NFL Scouting Combine.

This confirms what countless people who follow the NFL have been speculating on since early in the 2011-2012 season. The Colts owe Manning a hefty 28 million dollar roster bonus in early March and will in all likelihood draft QB prospect Andrew Luck with the 1st overall pick in the upcoming draft. Expect developments sooner rather than later.

This will certainly extend the life and vigor of speculation surrounding whether or not the Jets will or even should pursue Manning. Some sources have said they will if he becomes available. I caution you, dear reader, not to get too far ahead of yourself. Manning wants to play again, but neither he or his doctors have any idea whether or not he ever will. Manning's herniated disc has impacted his nerves, and he may very well never throw like his old self again. It is worth noting that Peyton started throwing again late last year. On ESPN radio, former Colts GM Chris Polian said this:

"No one can know when and if Peyton’s nerve that controls the triceps muscle will regenerate completely and enough for him to play. The expectation is that it will. When it will, no one can predict."

Simmer down. It could happen, but right now the bigger question is would we even want a hobbled future hall of famer that is a shadow of his former self? Been there, done that. Also consider that Manning would likely go to the biggest contender of all his suitors, likely the San Francisco 49'ers or Baltimore Ravens, in my humble opinion.

I begrudgingly ask you the fateful question. Do you want Peyton Manning as a Jet in spite of everything? Do you think it's realistic? Do you think he will play again and if so, at what level?


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If his health checks out, how can you not???

I mean, come on now… it’s Peyton f***ing Manning.

by J-Nasty on Jan 28, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

I agree 100%...

but I would not commit any $$ if you can’t be assured he will play.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 28, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

I feel bad for Mark Sanchez. But really the Jets are now SB contenders if this happens.

by DCyanks21 on Jan 28, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

It'll either ruin him, or make him stronger.

I want to win, whatever it takes. I love Mark Sanchez and I think he’ll be great… But if he can learn from peyton for about 2 years that’d be great. If manning is healthy, we should pursue.

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by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

he's a competitive guy according to rex

notice that he played well after getting benched during practice…this is like that but to the EXTREME. lol.

by darshv3 on Jan 28, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

This

I have mixed feelings on the whole thing. While the sound of a healthy Peyton Manning is definitely intriguing, the thought of the Jets paying him a buttload of cash and him never playing a down for them and having the rest of the NFL laughing at the Jets again makes me wanna puke. In addition, if he wants anything even remotely approaching the $28 million bonus he was scheduled to get with Indy, I don’t see any possible way they can come up with that kind of money.

For certain, I don’t see any way possible the Jets could keep Sanchez and sign Peyton and stay under the cap. They’d save $9,246,875 on the cap if they cut or trade Sanchez. That would be the big chunk of money they’d have to have to even think of signing Peyton. It would also probably preclude the Jets re-signing Pouha or signing any other FAs. Maybe they could get Peyton to sign a contract contingent upon his health with a relatively low base salary, but a big bonus if he plays a certain number of snaps, throws a certain number of TDs, etc. I don’t think they can give players a piece of the team any more. I wish they could. If Peyton comes here, I’d like to see him become Team President once he retires. If it weren’t for that bastid Tuna, Peyton would have been a Jet all these years and they may have won several SBs.

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by joeklecko on Jan 28, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Really...

I mean its Peyton Manning, if he can’t put his ego aside for one of the best ever, then he doesn’t deserve to play for us (and might wind up not).

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by Judgegavel on Jan 28, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He's turning 36, coming off major neck surgery. He has 1-2 years.

No longer

The Jets will win the Super Bowl one day and that will be the day i laugh in your face if your not a Jets fan.

by sanchise6 on Jan 28, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Well peyton probably doesn't have much mileage.

It’ll probably at the most be a 3 year rental. That is if peyton is capable of playing at the level he is capable of again.

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!

by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh screw it let's use literally all our cap space when we have ALOT of other positions to up grade.

ESPECIALLY with a 36 year old coming off major neck surgery.

The Jets will win the Super Bowl one day and that will be the day i laugh in your face if your not a Jets fan.

by sanchise6 on Jan 28, 2012 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah but for some reason those weaknesses reappear in the playoffs

I guess that’s why he only has 1 ring

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 28, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

And more playoff losses than wins.

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
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by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

People kill me with that whole “Peyton can carry a team” theory. When Peyton could not win the big one until his defense stepped up and the Colts had some semblance of a running game. Don’t get me wrong….I think Peyton is great and I think the Colts will regret letting him go but the Jets have too many other needs to bet the farm on an old QB.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 28, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He also doesn't play well outdoors. Plays well in a dome, Something we don't have.

We should definitely take a flyer, but there will be words in bold under the CONS: section. He’ll take up a lot of cap space, there is no guarantee he’s going to be same old Peyton, and it’ll be short term.

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
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by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The neck is a big question mark.

Even if it’s healthy, there is no certainty that it’ll ever be the same. If he’s healthy, the jets FO should be very cautious.

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!

by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Favre part 2

I very seriously doubt that Manning will ever be well enough to be his old self. That plus being in a new situation and it’s just the perfect setup for an epic letdown. No more sloppy seconds.

by Exystence on Jan 28, 2012 9:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Manning is a lot better than Favre...

is what 3 years younger than when we got him, and actually might want to play here, so not exactly the same.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 29, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

If the Jets get Peyton, they need to trade Sanchez

He should not be forced to become a 2nd string QB after starting for only 3 years

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 28, 2012 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure thats necessary...

I mean he would have to take a pay cut, but he is still only 25, and has to know he has a huge hole in his game he needs to work on, sitting 2 years behind a future HOF to maybe find out what he’s missing would be smart for all parties, if he could put his ego aside (I know big if). If he stayed in school (like he should have) chances are he wouldn’t be starting most places in his second year.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 29, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

its a tough call if i'm honest

manning is the best qb around and if he is healthy then he would put us over the top .
even if he isn’t the player of old , the 1 thing you can be sure is he can read defences . if we give him a run game to use as a crutch i think we would be in great shape to win it all .
the major problem is than this move would be a short fix so we would also need to draft a QB this year or next to get the full benefit of signing him . without having his successor in place to learn from him ( farve rodgers as an example ) this move would just be putting a band aid on a gaping wound

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by tinley24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

If we sign him and cut mark... What if it fails?

Peyton can’t play like his old self and mark turns into some freak QB that will kill us whenever we face him? After 1 or 2 years we’d have to go QB hunting again.. And of course if the manning experiment fails we’d be in the cellar again.

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by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

we would need to trade sanchez to make this deal worthwhile

if we could get a 3rd and 4th from the browns or seattle then we could fill more of our other needs in the draft and not have to rely on filling them via FA

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by tinley24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

sanchez would cost them a lot less trade wise

i wouldn’t rule any team out . washington , browns , seattle , miami and SF could all potentiality use a new QB and after RG3 is drafted there are still 4 potential landing spots for him . would sanchez be better than any 2nd , 3rd or 4th round QB ? i would say yes . i could see a team handing over a 2nd , or a 3rd and 4th to get him

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by tinley24 on Jan 28, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Seattle might try and wait for Matt Barkley. Tarvaris Jackson can get it done with the right tools,

He already has lynch, add another stud receiver and give him and o-line and he’ll do fine.

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
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by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He did play better towards the end of the season, but they wil get someone else

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!

by jets4life24 on Jan 29, 2012 12:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree

If Manning goes to NY, Sanchez needs to go somewhere else so he’s at least given a chance to succeed. Those 2 can not coexist, it wouldn’t be a good situation financially or emotionally for Sanchez.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 28, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

With all these rumors and reports about the jets pursuing other QBs to be the STARTER

Does he really need any more motivation to perform?

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
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by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Ultimately the deciding factor for me.

Sanchez right now has no trade value. To cut him now would be a monumental waste (and I’m not just referring to the dead money). Even if Manning returns to being a superstar, he has probably 2 seasons left. Then what? Back to the drawing board?

This team needs Sanchez to step up. Not Peyton riding in on a white horse (or blue horseshoe, sorry in advance but had to be made).

by ArunK on Jan 28, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Love the blue horseshoe reference

I don’t want to see Peyton in green and white but if it does happen, Sanchez would be useless. He will be the most overpaid backup and the little bit of confidence he has will be shot. I think it’s ridiculous for the Jets to even consider acquiring Peyton….that should be the last thing on Tanny and Woody’s minds.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 28, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

After two seasons...

we have no idea how the core of this team will be, Revis, Mangold, Brick, and many others are in their prime in 2 year they will be starting the down side of their careers, I would rather see a better chance at winning a Super Bowl the next two, than chasing the future hoping to be some mythical dynasty.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 29, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 for the TLC reference.

But yeah, ultimately for better or worse I’m guessing this is going to be Mark Sanchez’s team next year. Might be proven wrong though.

In any case, all this would be moot if Peyton retires. He’s already a Hall of Famer, one of the greatest ever, has more money then he’s likely to ever need and with all the commercials he’s going to film next season either way will have plenty more money coming.

That and if he feels like taking a stab at broadcasting, or perhaps a consultant role on an offense, he can pretty much pick his gig going forward. Wonder if 4-5 years down the line he becomes an offensive coordinator?

by ArunK on Jan 28, 2012 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

When healthy

he’s the best QB in the league.It would be foolish not to want him

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by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 28, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

He could be healthy, but not the same QB from 5 years ago.

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!

by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

One year ago... He literally took that team to the playoffs with all their injuries.

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by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats what makes it difficult for me to say yes or no.

As much as I want to say yes, I just can’t….

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!

by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Who says he's not?

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by Judgegavel on Jan 29, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Many many problems here...

1) Can Peyton ever play again? Who knows.
2) If he can play again, will he be average or good? Who knows.
3) How many years could he play for if he can even play? Maybe 1-3 years.
4) Could the Jets afford Peyton? No. Maybe if they could trade Sanchez. The we get to have 2 years of average Manning and watch Sanchez succeed for 12 years on say Seattle.

by CervezaVerde on Jan 28, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

Seattle actually wouldn't be a bad fit at for him

He’d be reunited with Pete Carroll, he’d have Marshawn Lynch and a steadily improving defense to fall back on, and Tarvaris Jackson would push him.

by darshv3 on Jan 28, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

And he'll be super motivated to kick our ass

When we play him

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!

by jets4life24 on Jan 28, 2012 10:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

And with our luck, just watch that happen...

I’m joking, but I still don’t wanna take a gamble on Peyton.

by darshv3 on Jan 28, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

i’m actually laughing at this

by darshv3 on Jan 28, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too, that's hilarious.

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by ProfScorpio on Jan 29, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Seattle

It would also be a less pressure situation.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 28, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

GET $ERIOUS

1. We cant afford the Guy
2. We have MAJOR needs on both sides of the ball
3. Bad Neck Bad Business
4. After 2 yrs were right back to needing a QB cause Sanchez is gone (maybe one year if we don’t upgrade our O-line) *McElroy maybe
5. Did I mention the MONEY……

Come on guys we Don’t need another QB we need the one we have to be more involved in the offense, takes control, shows more leadership. If that means some Comp to challenge him, so be it. Oh and a darn coaching staff that doesn’t treat him like a freaking idiot check monkey! Wtf

by flawed911 on Jan 28, 2012 10:46 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

lol

I think you summed it up pretty well. I don’t view it as realistic, and I’m not convinced he’ll be adequately healed to play for us.

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by Bro Namath on Jan 28, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

On the other hand, if the Ravens are stupid enough to go for that, I’d love for the Jets to try to get Flacco.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jan 28, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Main Reson Peyton wont come

The main reason Peyton wont come is because next week lil Bro Eli is going to have 2 Super Bowl rings and big Bro is NOT coming to the same city & same stadium that Lil Bro ELI OWNS!!!

Also, A. Schein of Sirius & SNY says that he’s talked to Jet’s insiders & they won’t pursue Peyton because of the Favre fiasco.

Besides that – with his injury he’s never going to play again.

However; if the impossible should happen – Tanny has to keep Sanchize & Peyton. Cutting Sanchize saves Jets’ almost nothing because of accelerated bonus. Sign Peyton for 3 years. We have Sanchize under contract for 2 more. After winning the next 2 Superbowls, Peyton retires, we still pay him for year 3 as a parting bonus and & then Sign Sanchize for more than he’s worth since he sat by patently for the 2 years. Only negative in this scenario is ticket prices with rise through the roof.

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by ProfScorpio on Jan 29, 2012 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

Not Correct

If the Jets trade or cut Sanchez, they save $9.25 million on the cap. I got it from the NY Jets Cap site. http://nyjetscap.com/salary.html

There’s no possible way the Jets could have both on the team. Peyton wouldn’t play for less than Mark.

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by joeklecko on Jan 29, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the correction

Didn’t mean to state any mis-truths. Was positive I read that in a post a week or so ago. Thanks for clarifying.

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by ProfScorpio on Jan 29, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Owns?

I think considering what he’s done he still gets very little respect in this town, maybe if he gets another ring.

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by Judgegavel on Jan 29, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Just save the money.

Sign braylon, pouha, maybin, and either tyvon branch or reggie nelson. Draft Upshaw, Perry or Ingram along with a WR and safety. Get some O-line depth and lets roll. Cut wayne hunter too.

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by jets4life24 on Jan 29, 2012 12:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

oh yeah that guy... Lol

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by jets4life24 on Jan 29, 2012 1:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wayne Hunter is a better back up than a starter, so keep him.

by NYR #35 Richter on Jan 29, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

2.5m is an expensive backup

cut his ass

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by tinley24 on Jan 29, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

If Peyton Manning was healthy from top to bottom, this would be a no brainer. But he’s not. At the same time if Mark Sanchez had three straight crap years with the Jets, then this would be an easy thing to do. It’s not.

This kid in his first two seasons got this team into the AFC Championship game. His third year he fell down along with the man below Capt. Ahab (joking about Rex of course), But Shotty helped to bring Sanchez down with all those passing plays for no reason.

Honestly, it would be a shame if the Jets turned their back on him after three years in the league and went after a broken down Peyton Manning. And don’t kid yourself right now, because Manning is broken right now.

One solid hit and the neck goes, then what’s gonna happen? I want this kid who can be a leader and at the same time needs to grow up alot more, can get this team to the promise land.

It’s time to bring back his other favorite weapon in Braylon Edwards and fix that front 5 who will protect him. He didn’t regress all by himself, he had help. Mr. T, Shotty, and the failure of the front 5 along with Santonio Holmes helped him out.

We shouldn’t abandon Mark Sanchez, we can’t abandon Mark Sanchez, why should the failure of this season override the positive first two. Support Sanchez and when the next season starts in September, hopefull he will be the one to sweep the Pats and finally get over the hump.

I SAY NAY TO PEYTON MANNING!

by NYR #35 Richter on Jan 29, 2012 12:54 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

THIS

Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!

by jets4life24 on Jan 29, 2012 1:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wanted the Jets to get him when it was first mentioned as a possibility, then the more I thought about it. . .NO THANKS!

Just think it’s too risky and the cap space could be used in other places of need. We are supposed to have a franchise QB, let’s give him a chance. .

by chrebetsthebet on Jan 29, 2012 6:00 AM EST reply actions  

Don't you guys get how good this offense will be with Peyton?

Tone would be a BEAST. Give the guy a precision passer who knows how to recognize defenses and exploit match-ups and he’ll be IMPOSSIBLE to defend.

Dustin Keller would make Dallas Clark look slow and unathletic. And if Cumberland comes back at full strength, that makes two.

Kerley would be sick. McKnight would be deadly. Greene would be hitting it downhill against light boxes.

Our offense would be an explosive machine!!!

Yet, people are pining over Sanchez? The dude that has yet to show that he could hit a wide open barn with any consistency. Don’t want to take a spin on MANNING bc Sanchez might be good for the next 12 years? What? What makes you think he’ll be good for one? What makes you think we won’t be looking for a QB anyway, even without Manning?

We’re talking about Peyton Freaking Manning here. If the doctors clear the dude, and he wants to come here, its an absolute no brainer.

by Crackback on Jan 29, 2012 6:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Says who?

He’s not gonna get franchise money becvause of his age, and his surgery is going to mitigate that further. He knows that. If he is about the money, then a market where he can rake it in with ancillary income is going to be extremely appealing. If he’s all about legacy, then coming to a championship starved team in the world’s largest market will make him immortal (Joe Willy only got one and he’s still cashing that shit in after 40 years).

Dude can sign a shoe contract, make a few commercials, and probably rake $100m in NY. If The Jets play the Giants in the SUperbowl at Metlife, him and Eli will be making money on that for YEARS (movies, books, etc.). Then he can retire after 2 years, write his own book and rake in another 10+ mil. Take a year off and go into broadcasting, make Trent and Steve look like amateurs, then go into coaching if he should so choose.

by Crackback on Jan 29, 2012 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

He is already a national marketing commodity, NY will not change that for the better

Do you really wanna get behind this? We have $8 mill to spend. Cut Sanchez and we have $17 mill. Set aside $4 mill for rookies and we have $13 mill. Cut Hunter and Smith and we have $17.5. Sign Pouha, Maybin, Westerman, Turner, Leonhard, Strickland and we are down to maybe $10 mill. Sign a decent backup RT just in case the 3rd round pick doesn’t work out and we are at $8 mill. Restructure a bunch of contracts and we are at $10 mill space. Set aside $2 mill to cover an inseason injury signing and we have $8 mill again… now, if healthy, does Peyton want to sign here for $8 mill? Or with 10 other teams that offer $20 mill?

by CervezaVerde on Jan 29, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

If it comes down to money, of course he doesn't come here

I guess the counter-argument is that most of the teams that would give him a chance to win a second Super Bowl already have a strong QB, and are not likely to jump ship, even for him. The only two playoff teams that might make the move are the Broncos or the Bengals, though both have young QBs that they seem to have faith in and might hesitate as well. Beyond that, he’s looking at middling teams which have problems with their QBs, and with a significant upgrade there, could be serious contenders. There you’re talking about teams like the Titans, the Jets, the Eagles and one or two others. I’m not sure if the Jets make the most sense, but you can certainly make the argument that with him, the Jets would have a much better shot at the Super Bowl than any other of these teams

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by OldProspects on Jan 29, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

just to add

trading keller will give us an extra 5m in cap

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by tinley24 on Jan 29, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

The problem is...

I agree with you that the potential for ungodly numbers is there with Manning. But at what cost? Waiving Sanchez wouldn’t kill the Jets, but they would need to jettison a lot more than just Sanchez’s salary to rent Manning for 1 or 2 years. So now maybe the Jets have to replace 2 or 3 guys, but they have nothing to spend on free agents or even rookie salaries, because it’s all invested in Peyton. Plus you’re in cap hell for a couple of years going forward. Now, maybe Peyton is healthy and carries the Jets to the promised land – even though the team, aside from Peyton, has been downgraded to get him. Or maybe he’s just a shadow of his former self because of the surgery – we can’t know, he hasn’t played in a year. (Remember, we got Favre coming off what was the second-best season of his impressive career; with Peyton we get the unknown). For me, the risk is too great for the potential reward.

No Mas

by Manos De on Jan 29, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re making assumptions about salary. You have no idea what he’ll take. If he comes back to play, I’m guessing its more about winning than it is about money. He took one for the union a few years ago when he held the Colts’ feet to the fire for his current contract. I would imagine that in his twilight years, he’s gonna be about winning. Plus he can make much more in this market on the side than he could anywhere else.

We’re talking about Peyton Manning here. He beats teams cerebrally. If the docs clear him, he’ll be fine. I’d rather put my eggs in the Peyton Manning basket than wait for Sanchez’s “arrival.” What the hell difference is cap space going to mean, anyway, when Sanchez is mediocre at best? And Manning’s contract comes off the cap when he retires anyway.

You guys make it seem like we would sign him blind. Of course our docs would examine him thoroughly, and of coourse we would work him out extensively to see if he could throw the ball, and of course there will be provisions in his contract that would void it should he be forced to retire due to injury.

The quesion is do you sign Peyton if he’s medically cleared and shows he can throw, or do you hang on to Sanchez and hope and pray he develops before Revis and Mangold pass their prime? The answer is as simple as it is resounding.

by Crackback on Jan 29, 2012 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, if he's cheap, then you take him...

You are right, if Manning is willing to take a discount, then the Jets have to strongly consider getting him. But I imagine he wouldn’t want to take less than a franchise QB tender, which in 2012 is around $14.5 million. (And I doubt he will take less than the other top-tier free agent QB this year, Drew Brees, which could be higher…) Waiving Sanchez only gets you about two-thirds of the way there. Plus the Jets still have other needs. You’re certainly not going to leave Peyton behind the same terrible offensive line Sanchez had this year. Where is the $ for other needed upgrades? If Peyton is healthy and available for Sanchez’s salary, it’s a no-brainer. But I cannot imagine Peyton will take that kind of discount.

No Mas

by Manos De on Jan 29, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

you not in cap hell next year

cutting scott and pace next year will save us 15m . there are also guys like Cro and Tone that could be cut for a massive saving .
if we work the cap right next year we will be in pretty good shape

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by tinley24 on Jan 29, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

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