Would Going After Manning Go Against the Jets Offseason Philosophy?
by GangGreenMag on Jan 26, 2012 7:37 PM EST
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PrintThe Peyton Manning talk won't be going away anytime soon. I have the feeling the Jets will be mentioned in connection to Manning, up until a destination is decided. The thought of two of the best QBs, of this era, playing in the same division, is very tempting. The thought brings me back to the days of Favre. When Brett came in, our hopes and dreams went into overdrive, knowing a Hall of Famer, would be tossing the rock for us. Of course, we know how that whole ordeal ended. With that being said, a healthy Manning is on a whole other level of QB play than Favre ever was. His field general mentality would take over our offense, and make it his own.
Once you look past all the glamor of a move to bring Manning to the Jets, you are left with theory that doesn't make much sense for the Jets. More after the jump...
One of the biggest problem our offense faced in 2011, was our movement away from the running game. The Jets decided to become a more pass oriented offense, and leave behind our bread and butter. This team is made to run he ball tough and hard. Rex knew he had to get back to his running roots, but the damage was already done. Rex and company have made it clear that the ground and pound will be back. No other move made this more evident than the signing of our new offensive coordinator, Tony Sparano. Tony's roots lie with the offensive line and the running game. When his name 1st surfaced, it was said that he will be in control of bringing back our running game.
By all accounts, it looks like every one on the Jets have focused on bringing back the running game. Where would this rushing rebirth go if Manning is brought in. You don't bring in Manning to run the ball 30 times a game. A Manning move would neutralize any plans to be the tough, ground and pound team we wanted to be. In effect, the trade to bring Manning here would counter anything that has already been put in place for 2012.
This counter, philosophical thinking, is just one of many reasons to think this move would never happen. Other reasons might include price, Sanchez, health, and other team needs. The more you look at it, the more there is to think he will not be coming here. Even still, it will be force fed to us until Manning's future is sealed.
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I dont want Painton Manning
And i dont think he want to come here.
by Jonathan Reynoso on Jan 26, 2012 7:42 PM EST reply actions
I want him as.......
A Qb coach if he retires that would be nice
No, I think that it would be perfect!
Imagine Manning with a running game and a good defense. I really think the Jets will go all out because of the man crush that Rex has on him.
No. No. No.
How do you expect to AFFORD all that? The Jets running game ranked 22nd this season, which means it’s in dire need of an overhaul, which will be pricey. You think Manning is going to play for free? He has one of the biggest contracts in football! And, what if we do get him? How long do you expect him to stick around? A year? Maybe two assuming his neck heals? So we gut the team to afford him, have him for 2 seasons maybe, then we are left with what? An even bigger mess than we have now. NO. EFFING. THANK YOU!
by struckanerve9 on Jan 27, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
frogot one reason
we don’t have the money!! i don’t want go dreaming for nnamdi gain. we offered half the amount of money that the eagles offered. someone will offer more. i don’t even want to think if he will fit or not. we don’t have the money!!
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Some are saying that Manning might be cut
by Vegas Jets Fan on Jan 26, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
right
and do you honestly think we will put up the most money? this is a league where to redskins are still a member. we won’t be the highest bidder, and he’s going to go to the highest bidder. don’t fool yourself and say “he wants to come to new york”. do you think he wants to play in the same town as his brother? i don’t think so. i don’t want us to put in a bid, then be suprised when he goes to some team for 17 mill a year. i don’t want the media say “peyton rejected the jets”. we just won’t have enough money, just like with nnamdi
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Do you honestly think that Peyton will be looking for the highest bidder?
I don’t think it will be about the money all the way, and I do know that when Tanny and Rex want someone they will do what ever the feel they have to.
by Vegas Jets Fan on Jan 26, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
it will be all about money
maybe peyton would take a little less to go somewhere else, but there is no reason to give ny a discount
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I guess it depends on what he's chasing.
I have no idea though. I think all this talk about Manning to the Jets is sensationalist crap.
If it's not about the money then the jets have no chance.
I would question Peyton’s sanity if he decided to come to NY because he wanted to. First this is his brother’s town, as an older sibling I would never want to live in my brother’s shadow. Second why would a QB ever choose to come here only to be harassed by the WRs to give him the ball. No one in their right mind voluntarily inserts himself into a toxic locker room. To add onto that Peyton doesn’t fit the team style; he’s always been a professional, and Rex Ryan’s Jets are far from a profesional team. They are a dirty smash mouth team. Peyton drops to the ground when ever he is close to be sacked, he is not a smash mouth player. The Jets are not an appealing place for Peyton, or even a good fit. Peyton and the team are not compatible.
Do you honestly think that Tone would get to Peyton? Peyton manning would provide leadership that this lockeroom desperately needs. Tone would be less frusterated having a QB who can actually get him the ball.
I don’t think this will happen, but to worried about a toxic WR is crazy. I bet Tone would keep his mouth shut and thank god for the chance to play with Peyton. And after a year if Tone was his a$$hole self, cut him and get scrub WR’s. Peyton has a history of taking no names and making them amazing.
by BringBackNamath on Jan 27, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
Tone will get the ball...
…once the Jets have an Oline that can give their QB 3 seconds to throw the ball. Can’t blame Sanchez for crap protection.
by struckanerve9 on Jan 27, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Manning will not come here
with our O line and chemistry issues. Nor do we need to break the bank on a 36 year old Qb with a neck problem, even if he is one of the best ever. We need to build thru the draft and free agency. build a solid O line and d line,i know it’s not the “sexy” way to go but that’s what wins championships. Sanchez will be OK with a running game and some protection. look at Alex Smith this year. If we give up on Sanchez it will be a big mistake. Now if we could somehow trade up to get Luck and package sanchez,I’m all for it.
by Chrebetfan on Jan 26, 2012 7:47 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Absouletly
The team has so many glaring needs they cannot focus on one player they may not need. Find a starting RT and build depth on the OL, sign Braylon, and draft a S and OLB/DE. Of course those aren’t the teams only needs but if they turn their eye(a la Sauron in Lord of the Rings) towards one player, they will miss out on signing players they ACTUALLY need(ex.Nnamdi Asoughma).
I honeslty believe Sanchez will excel in Sparano’s sytem.
Please don't compare the Jets eye to Sauron
Everyone knows that Sauron is coaching in New England.
I think there is a better chance Manning retires after the Superbowl
then plays for the Jets. God, I want this talk to stop.
Courting Peyton
Even discussing the possibility of going after Manning – even if ’he’s’ interested, is a major distraction from the wealth of issues that face the Jets. Our team can’t protect it’s QB to give him the chance to throw; it can’t rush the passer effectively; Sanchez is psychologically battered and does not trust his own management; it can’t defend against moderate to excellent QB’s from freely throwing underneath passes; it doesn’t have a brilliant 3rd down slot receiver or consistency within its special teams. Our team can’t maintain esprit within the locker room or even in the huddle. We HAVE a QB. Invest in the guy. Give him a Pro Bowl O-Line and another runner & blocker and tamp down the destructive egos. Isn’t that enough to keep the management busy before the next season begins?
Robert
Dude Mark is a good guy, but a mediocre QB
Hearing a lot of the “not a good O-line” excuse… Are we really believing that now? The O-line sucked but so did he.
by Vegas Jets Fan on Jan 26, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
If you had 250 pound animals coming at you
with a goal to hurt you, and you knew your O-Line had no ability to stop it (the fact that Mark is a tough player and was visibly hurt many times this year and played through it is admirable) you wouldn’t be able to throw an accurate pass.
Really bro, so all the shitty plays he makes week after week are due to the O-Line?
by Vegas Jets Fan on Jan 26, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
The man can do no wrong
Sanchez is the teflon QB in these parts. Nothing is ever his fault. I wish we would trade him so he can succeed because the Jets are just holding him back. We dont deserve to have such a great QB like this.
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lmao @yankeesjets ...hehehhahehe
your right thou
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
+1
Its the rest of the team that sucks. Not high all mighty hot dog eating Sanchez.
To be classy, the Jets should release him and let him go to where he wants to win…..and in return we’ll just sign a worse QB who will shock is and play bettter in some fashion.
Trade Sanchez for Tebow. At least we will have god on our side.
by BringBackNamath on Jan 27, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
He had one bad year and people are bitching. If he had been playing this way his last two seasons he would not have been the starter this year. The regression was partly his fault, but mostly the fault of the incompetent OC and the turnstile of a RT. He’s not mediocre. He just had a bad season.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jan 27, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
What team have you been watching?
1 bad year? Sanchez has been mediocre for 3 years…..This is his make or break year.
by BringBackNamath on Jan 27, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
He has not been mediocre. He was an okay rookie who showed flashes in year one, and a clutch performer in year two. It amazes me how people’s memories work. We didn’t come into this season with expectations based on how he ‘should’ progress. We had at least five or six games last year that showed us exactly how good Sanchez could be. I still have not met a single Jet fan who doesn’t believe that we would have won the AFC Championship game last year if the defense could have made one more stop. Mediocre quarterbacks do not inspire such confidence.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jan 27, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
YES!!! Bro.
You get sacked 40 times and see how long you want to hold onto the ball! Mistakes happen when a QB has to rush his progessions because he has no confidence in his protection. Seriously, watch some football and tell me how much time Tom Brady has to throw.
by struckanerve9 on Jan 27, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
NFL NOSE JOB
Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
by jets4life24 on Jan 26, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i believe that
Sanchez playing through injuries was the main reason for his inaccuracy. It’s quite tough to throw a ball accurately when a pinched nerve makes it hurt to throw. However, the fumbles are inexcusable. If not for his fumbles or boomer esaisen saying he regressed, no one on this site would be saying go for manning. We’d all be saying “sanchez accounted for the most tds in jets history this year”
by revis24fan on Jan 27, 2012 1:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Um...yes.
You just said it, the O Line sucked! How do you expect ANY QB to do well when their line can’t protect them? The Jets Oline went from giving up 28 sacks (middle of the pack) in 2010 to 40 in 2011. They also went from 4th in rushing to 22nd!!! How much more proof do you need? This line was the major failing of this team. Not Sanchez. Besides, Sanchez is a mobile QB who can move in the pocket and escape pretty well. How many more sacks would the OL given up if not for that?!
by struckanerve9 on Jan 27, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Well...
1. The O-Line did suck. I bet Tom Brady doesn’t do very well with Wayne Hunter at RT.
2. No development time. Starting a rookie who had only 1 year starting experience at USC was probably not a good idea, but he stepped up and brought us to two championship games in three years.
3. Coaching sucked. Schotty was the big one, but there were problems at so many different levels that it’s hard for me to not blame Rex for at least part of it.
4. Crappy WR core that changes all the time. Last year we had Bray and Santonio. This year we had Santonio and an O-Line that couldn’t protect for more than the time it takes to throw a 4 yard slant. Plax was meh. Keller was okay. Everyone else blew.
So there are plenty of excuses for Mark. For the rest of the team? Not so much. To be entirely honest, the Jets crap year was a team failure, to try to pin it on any one person (other than Rex, who has to take full responsibility for his team, but I’m not saying THIS IS ALL REX’S FAULT FIRE HIM at all) is foolish. The Jets wouldn’t have made the playoffs with Eli Manning or Tom Brady.
by Scott Piazza on Jan 27, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Woody sells tickets
and that is all that matters, a good clown act.
so we're giving up on sanchez already...
He outplayed manning and Brady back to back games. This would kill Sanchez confidence for sure. And since we’re going back to the running game, whats the point having here. And if does come here and we don’t win a SB, jeez imagine what the media say about the jets.
I am giving up on Sanchez because he sucks
and isn’t a good QB for 10 m plus next year.
I would rather have Matt Flynn or Jason Campbell
jason campbell? 1st round pick journeyman? matt flynn the next matt cassel?
Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
Flynn and Campbell will not make near what Sanchez makes next year
and both are better options at QB than Sanchez
Sanchez is a bust, get over it
Flynn's gonna be more expensive than Sanchez
He’s gonna get a Kolb-esque contract. Kolb’s was I think 5 years $60 mil. That’s an average of $12 mil a year. Sanchez’s is 5 year $50 mil, that’s 10 mil a year. And Flynn has a much better resume than Kolb did, so i could see a team like the dolphins giving him something like 5 years $ 65 mil. And since you complain so much about Sanchez’s contract, i’ll tell you this. He offered to take a pay cut before this past season, they just decided not to reduce his pay for whatever reason. And how many “busts” have the franchise record for playoff starts, wins, and single season touchdowns? If you still wanna continue your hatred of him, so be it, you’re just gonna be frustrated for as long as he’s the quarterback, it’s your loss.
please share what ever drugs you are taking
I WANT SOME TOO
You clearly know nothing about football
if you would even mention Jason Campbell as a replacement. Thank god you’re not in a position to make real decisions for this team.
by struckanerve9 on Jan 27, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Flynn
looked good in one game playing for the best team in the NFL. I bet you thought Leinart was going to be a hall of famer too.
Please…I’ll take Sanchez with a proven track record over Matt “I sucked at LSU and got outplayed by Jamarcus Russell” Flynn.
by struckanerve9 on Jan 27, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
wait?
The Jets have an offseason philosophy?
Go Devils
Go Jets
by FrankG929 on Jan 26, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Well just a general philosophy that they need to go back to the run
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
by GangGreenMag on Jan 26, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Whats the alternative to that?
Letting Sanchez throw? Do they even have any other choice but to run,lol.
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No they don't
That is why they are bringing in coaching pieces to rebuild our running game. It sort of telling that they are going to give Sanchez one last shot at least.
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
by GangGreenMag on Jan 26, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Still think they will bring in another viable QB too
I think Tanny and Rex know they will be in trouble if this kid doesnt take em to the playoffs.
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Oh absolutely
A viable backup QB is something I can almost guarantee we take care of
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
by GangGreenMag on Jan 26, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
peyton doesnt like cold weather... that's FACT
he doesnt come up big in the playoffs… thats fact too… peyton is damaged goods too
Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
I can't say for sure what Peyton does or doesn't like
but he does tend to underperform in inclement weather
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
by GangGreenMag on Jan 26, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt Peyton would want to come to this zoo but I will say this...
….our team as it is right now is better than the team Peyton took to the SB. Sometimes the best defense is a good offense and this team would be a totally different team with a real QB.
Peyton, if healthy, would be a better addition to this team than any three defenders you could add. You are talking about a QB/Coach. With a guy that can read coverages and stretch the field, the defense would never be as gassed as it was this year. Sanchez probably has more three and outs in a game, than Peyton does in a season.
I wouldnt count on Peyton coming and it would be a temporary thing but it would feel like deja vu, we did get Favre following Giants/Pats SB. If there is one thing Woody loves, its knocking the Giants off the back pages and this would do it.
With all that said, Im not saying I want Peyton, Im not saying I dont.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
All of the above are great reasons why he won't be coming here.
I can’t wait for this talk to end, so we can focus on our biggest problem areas
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
I love all the arm-chair psychoanalysis.
Peyton won’t want to do this. Peyton wouldn’t like that. Come on fools. You have absolutely no clue whats going on in Peyton’s head.
by Crackback on Jan 26, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
I agree
I think he would probably prefer to stay of out of the division with Brady, and the city with his brother. But thats a complete guess. Nobody has any clue what he wants. Not to mention, he loves Tom Moore, and Rex has always done a great job recruiting free agents.
What free agents has Rex recruited besides his boys from the Ravens?
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
LT, Maybin, Plax, Pool,
All of those guys basically said they signed with the Jets so they could play for Rex. Obviously Leonhard, Scott, and Pryce came here to play for Rex as well.
Thats some collection,lol
Maybin probably has the most value of those 4 and nobody else wanted him. Personally, I dont think Rex has done that great a job with the FAs.
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Are you serious?
Besides Aso we got pretty much every target we have went after. LT was on the verge of signing with the Vikings, and Plax had more options. Scott was very highly sought after in free agency as well. We just had a ton of our own players that needed to be re-signed, so we didn’t go after that many free agents. Players love to play for him though. He was voted as the coach most players would want to play for.
http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/rex_ryan_is_nfls_most_popular_coach_amongst_players/3664532
I know all about the players poll, who wouldnt want to work for a boss that is absent?
LDT wasnt going to Vikings, he knew this was the best situation for him. Playing behind Peterson probably wasnt as enticing as posibly starting for the Jets.
Plax probably didnt have many options as he was just coming off a stint in jail.
Scott was never going elsewhere, he excelled in Rex’s system and Im sure before FA even started he and Rex knew they were staying together.
I havent seen a high impact sought after FA come here yet under Rex. Not saying we were spurned by many but I think some here put a bit too much into that players poll.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Scott was a high impact sought after free agent
He just started to decline this season. LT was recruited by other teams, and he even said himself that he was close to signing with the Vikings but Rex changed his mind. Also, how is Rex an absent coach? He is a defensive coach, and our defense is good every year. Our offense let us down, and thats on Schotty and Tanny. It was an anonymous poll of all of the players in the league, so its pretty hard to take it any other way. A lot of players want to play for Rex more than any other coach. Thats a big advantage. Especially when you consider the NY market.
Where are these players and when are they coming?
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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
When we have cap room to sign free agents
We traded for Holmes and Cro, re-signed Revis, Mangold, Harris, Brick, etc. so we haven’t been able to aggressively pursue many top free agents.
Trades and FA signings are two different things
What big name FA has come here instead of somewhere else while Rex has been coach? None.
Im not saying its due to Rex or not due to the cap. Im saying your statement that Rex is great at recruiting FAs is wrong.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
No it isn't wrong
He has been able to bring in nearly every player we have targeted. We haven’t had the cap space to target many free agents, but the ones we want we usually get. LT was recruited by other teams.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/03/08/brees-admits-to-recruiting-lt-to-no/
You win, Rex can do no wrong
I just dont look at a past his prime LT as a big high impact signing.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think he is a very good coach
He had a bad season, but two straight AFC championship games with a below average QB is very impressive. All new coaches make mistakes. Like I have said over and over again, we haven’t have the cap space to sign any high impact free agents, but everything I have seen points to him being a good recruiter.
Im sure he will be a good recruiter but after the nightmare locker room of this year, it will be harder
I just want to see Rex grow more as a HC.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think this year will help him in the long run
Hopefully he learns from his mistakes. I think before he felt like he could motivate any individual and could single handedly create a positive locker room. He was obviously very wrong about that. I think we will see a much more serious and focused Rex Ryan this year.
Wrong wrong wrong
Scott? Scott? Rex made the wrong decision there, he needed to recruit Ray Lewis instead and that would have been the correct choice and would have led us to the superbowl.
LT is probably still one of the best receiving backs in the NFL. Maybin was a great find. Pool has made big plays at times, including at least two deflections to win games last year. Plax was a beast in the red zone. You can’t use those guys as examples to prove your point. They prove the exact opposite of your point.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jan 27, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Peyton won’t sign with us because there is no chance in hell that he would want to compete in the same town with his brother. It’d almost be a slap in the face to Eli. The Mannings are very close and wouldn’t want the media of NY to constantly compare them.
How do you know this? Don’t they comparethem anyway? Wouldn’t it be cool to get the kids together on Monday? Wouldn’t it be cool for Mom and Dad if they were both in the same city?Wouldn’t it be cool if you could go to bro’s house for a beer when things got hectic? Your all-pro QB bro that understands completely? Wouldnt they make a shit ton of money doing commercials together?
Imagine a Jets-Giants Manning Bowl at Met Life!!!!!!
Sanchez could be a vendor at that SB
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We went to ground and pound out of necessity though
A good pass attack is much more effective. We just didn’t have an accurate enough QB. If Peyton Manning is healthy and available, its a no brainer. He is one of the four elite QB’s in the NFL, and makes us a SB contender just by putting on the jersey. I know he is 35, but he would be the greatest player to ever put on a Jets jersey. He probably won’t sign with us. But if he was willing to, I would give him a blank check.
Heard of the definition " Cap Space? " Anyone?
The Jets will win the Super Bowl one day and that will be the day i laugh in your face if your not a Jets fan.
Tanny could find a way to fit an Elephant in a Prius trunk
If Jets want this, they will find a way. it wont happen though.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
http://www.ganggreennation.com/2011/12/30/2670217/my-defense-of-mark-sanchez
sorry, there’s the link, it didn’t get posted correctly. Read that if you want, i’m getting a little tired of saying the same things over and over again to the same criticism over and over again.
Jets-Giants Manning Bowl at Met Life!!!!!
Make it happen Tanny.
How
I’m sure you know how much salary cap room we have. How are we going to offer mannng 15 a year? We don’t have the money, even if we cut sanchez
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Still no
We have very limited room as it is. I believe we have 121 mill on the books for next year, and i heard they are doing a wierd thing with the salary cap that might make it 133 for us. We cut hunter and smith, i believe we save 5 mill. We now have 17 mill to work with. Now, who knows how much we would have to pay for manning. It could realisticly be 18 a year. Sanchez would save us 8 mill, so saying manning would need to be paid 17-18 a year, we would have 7-8 mill left to:
Sign our draft picks ( probably will cost near 4 mill, seeing that we have more picks then usual)
Get a saftey
Right tackle, and this is assuming we use our picks on other needs like OL and wr.
Sign a backup qb
Sign pouha, i guess we won’t have enough money, so we are going to have a rotation there
Sign a cheap wr, we need the help
Sign devito
Get a decent punter
The salary cap might be smaller then that, and then it won’t even be close. We just can’t do
it.
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First you said 15m, now you're moving the bar to 18m.
Jetscap (THE authority on cap #s) says cutting Sanchez saves 9m. Hunter plus Smith is another 5m. Cut Ropati thats another mil. Manning is already a media juggernaught. And thats from Indy. Imagine him a stone’s throw from Madison Ave. Dude can easily make up the difference marketing himself in NY. Dude might even make a Tiger Woods type killing.
Eff Pouha. Eff a back-up, we have McElroy under contract. Devito is under contract. Roll with the receivers we have (Holmes and Kerley will go freaking OFF with Manning at the helm).
There’s all kinds of shit that could be done to make room. Trade Keller for a decent RT, Manning makes them look good anyway with his quick release. Let Cumberland and Baker slide into the “Dwight Clark” role.
well
honestly, the 2nd time i thought about it, 15 isn’t realistic. he won’t be gtting less then before. we are assuming manning can work wonders wih the team we have. i’d rather spend some money on the d, so when maning has a bad game in the playoffs, we can still win. we lost 2 afcc’s because of defense. why would it be any different when our d is worse?
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I really don't know how much Manning is gonna command...
The injury IS a factor and there isn’t a single team that won’t take that into account. No way he’s gonna be making Brady money. I just don’t see it happening.
All these cry babies on the team that want Sanchez gone could restructure
If they really wanted him, Tanny could find a way.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
No
We said the same thing for nnamdi. Some things can’t be done
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15M can be done easily.
Sanchez, Smith, Hunter, Pitoitua. Voilah.
As you see above
I Think 15 is to low. His demand is going to be high. I don’t see why he would get any less then he had with the colts
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He is coming off a serious injury
But with Daniel Snyder around, he probably gets more money than he has ever had before.
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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
we made nnamdi a perfectly fair offer
given his age and how much we’re paying revis, we offered him 3 yr $30 mil. The eagles just grossly overpaid him, and now looks what’s happened. I’m happy with Cro.
2 things
1st, people who don’t want Peyton Manning are, quite frankly, crazy.
2nd, I would say there’s a minute chance he comes to NY unless it’s through a trade.
3rd, if #2 is true, we should give up a sizable asset for Manning if his neck checks out. I would consider a 2013 first if he’s healthy.
by J-Nasty on Jan 26, 2012 10:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, I don't get why anyone wouldn't want him
Thats insane. He makes us a SB contender by himself if he is healthy. The Colts went from being a playoff team to the worst team in the league without him.
I have no idea man....
On Mike and Mike yesterday they were talking about Peytons injury. Doctors have said his injury WILL heal. Its just a matter of timing.
Some argue that Peyton will be able to play for 3-4 more year. Some people think we are looking to bring in Peyton for one year and start over. I’m looking to bring him in for 3-4 years, and when hes clearly ready to hang it up, draft a QB, and let him sit and learn from the best.
People are worried about Marks confidence. Sorry for the language but F*CK Mark and his confidence. I want this team to win a superbowl. Peyton singlehandedly makes his team a contender.
Bottom line, if Peyton is healthy, you have your QB for 4 years. You would be nuts not to get him. He would provide instant leadership in the lockerroom. Hes Peyton Manning for christ sake.
by BringBackNamath on Jan 27, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
No Peyton x10000
There are much bigger things to worry about. Goddamm I hate the media
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Really
We wouldn’t be having this discussion if Parcells would’ve promised to draft him in 1997!
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All those that think Peyton cant be coming because we want to run...
seem to forget he played with Edgerrin James. James had 1200 on 310 carries in 13 games in 03 and 1500 in 04. Both years Peyton was the league MVP. He can excel with a strong run game.
Good point
Also, there are only two reasons to ever create a run-first offense.
1) You have an elite RB like Peterson or LT in his prime.
2) You don’t have a QB capable of leading a great passing attack.
Rex definitely knows this. This is why he talked about having a more balanced offense in the off season. Its possible to win by playing great defense and running the ball. But its much easier when you combine a great defense, with a great QB that doesn’t turn the ball over a lot.
I think there is a 3rd
Our O-line was at its best when we were all about the run. This group uses their success with the run, to help them out when pass protecting. This offensive line is not built for a team that drops back for 40 + passes. It wasn’t just Hunter that struggled this year with a larger passing philosophy. Going back to a run 1st team, would be playing to the strength of our O-line, as well as helping out Sanchez.
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by GangGreenMag on Jan 27, 2012 4:30 AM EST up reply actions
We got Tom Moore last year.
Let’s stop trying to make Sanchez turn into Peyton. While it seems awesome, it’s not going to happen.
Only way the Jets get an explosive passing offense is if they do get Manning…
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No to Manning
First off, Sanchez has one off season and you want to get rid of him? Remember there where no off-season training due to the lock out also he had shitty as an OC. Where was these talks of him sucking last year?
Second, It’s not a sure thing if we get Manning, that he is going to produce. Differnt team, have to build chemistry. Absolutly no to giving up draft picks. What if he don’t succeed here. He may be a little rusty. We take that risk and there goes that draft pick. A draft pick we can use if we needed another QB.
Third, what do we do with Sanchez? Just throw him away and with our luck he becomes a legit QB (which i think he can be). Then in three years here we are starting all over with a rookie QB. Sanchez had no confidence. Either being told so many times not to turn over the ball, to being brainwashed into checking down all the time, to a struggling OL at times and being knocked around (Sanchez was not the same after that Baltimore game).
Fourth, The money we would be paying Manning we can use to get two FA to play in positions that we need. We got burned pursuing Nnamdi so hard and the other issues went to the wayside. There were no more top notch FA for us to sign because we got held up by Nnamdi. Sanchez was still able to put up pretty good numbers. His TD numbers goes up by each year and his INT’ humbers went down. I’m all for bringing in a solid back-up just in case Sanchez do not work out. After the first two years dosen’t he deserve another shot in a diffrent system? Maybe Rex will stop babying him and let the handcuffs go. Give him the confidence that he needs. If he can get the same confidence he had at USC, he will be lights out. Like Elway said to Tebow…Pull the Trigger! That’s all Sanchez should think about next season.
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by greenandwhite4ever on Jan 27, 2012 6:56 AM EST reply actions
One bad season
and we want to bring in Farve 2.
Sorry, that was harsh……Farve WASNT injured when he got here…..
No thank you. I’d rather keep our picks and use the money to sign players to fill in gaps on this team that are MORE glaring then the QB position.
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Blame Parcells
because if it wasnt for him Manning would have been a Jet for his whole career. I dont know how many of you know the story but Manning should have been a Jet.
He was a junior at Tennessee when we had the worst record in football. That is when Parcells took over for Kotite. Peyton was going to declare for the draft as long as Parcells guaranteed that we would draft him. Of course Parcells said no and Manning went back for his senior season.
As for now I want no part of this. he is 36 and coming off major neck surgery and is one hit away from his career ending. Lets develop sanchez and we will have our QB for the next 10 years instead of going for the stopgap solution like we always do. Woody is a star chaser so I definitely see him in the mix even though it would be bad for the future of the franchise.
This is Mark's make or break season
if he/team doesn’t improve significantly mark’s days are numbered. However, this is not the right time to go after Manning.
With that said you have to make A LOT of changes this year.
Get Braylon, Replace Hunter & LT on Offense
Get a safety & pass rusher on D
Also, a new kicker/punter would be awesome as well.
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Not going to happen
1. We don’t have the cap room to bring in Manning for the money he’s going to get.
2. Manning isn’t going to get traded. His 28mil roster bonus is due a few days before he can be traded. So the colts would need to pay the guy 28mil before they could trade him away to someone willing to pick up his huge contract along with it’s terms.
3. If the colts release Manning, some team who has a lot of cap room and needs to spend to meet the new CBA’s minimum spend will go after him thinking he alone can make them a good team.
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Imagine if we could get a living legend
who is possibly washed up and of questionable health, who would be ridiculously expensive.
Didn’t we just try this a couple of season ago?
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don't we already have cap problems, and pouha to resign?
do we really want to redo Brett Favre?
does Peyton want to come to the Jets? at all?
will our intensely defensive minded coach want to use so much money on offense?
will he be let go by the colts?
are the redskins going to let themselves be outbid, no matter what the cost?
will tony sporano have a place for him in our offense?
is qb our most pressing need?
will peyton’s presence actually help sanchez, or will peyton assume sanchez is more accurate than he is?
if he’s up for trade, do we have anyone to trade?
there are probably more questions out there, but I think i covered the basics.
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Sanchez has the intangibles to be great QB with better coaching
Peyton’s neck is about to fall off, why mess with things now, when the team starts winning people will forget what they were mad about
The guy is 35 or so
He’s on his last legs, and he’s had 3 surgeries on his neck. When the team that drafted you, and watched you every day is willing to cut you loose that says something. Didn’t we learn from Santonio Holmes? The Colts aren’t stupid. If they do cut him loose, it’s because they know after watching and monitoring him every day all season that he is not what he was before.
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Yeah I want manning here. seriously I want Manning here as a QB coach…you bring him in NY to wear a uniform and I will personally pay for Tanny to have his head examined by a profesional
way i see it Peyton is a dome player 1st and foremost!!!
in cold weather His stats arnt that great!!!!..he will either go to a Dome team or one that plays a vast majority of games in warm weather!!!!..Cold weather will effect His Neck more…even though He has been cleared to play the Colts Medical team is saying NOT So fast…also some reports are saying His arm is like a wet Noodle..giving Him 15 mil is stupid…..what was even more stupid was signing Holmes to that 15 plus Mil all 100% guranteed!!! then resigning Hunter!!!!..also we have to pay Scott his 4 mil whether he plays for Us or Not!!!!
why not go after Wes? he is a free agent..awesome slot rec!!!…also could add NE running back “law-firm”.who has never fumbled in over 500 plus games!!! also for a back-up QB can grab Hoyer…But we right now have serious Cap Issues….alot of teams have them thats why Steelers are doing what there doing with salary;s..watch How many top players the Raiders will be cutting….BUT would they accept lower $$$ here big question…
I have said it b/4 we need players that can play more than 1 position, especially on the OL..How many Team have a OG-RT that can play TE?….or TE that can play slot-backs?.this is what WE NEED!!! but will we seek these type players out?
I dont even understand how this is even a topic with regard to the Jets
(No offense GGM)
If the Jets are over $128 mill after they sign their picks, how the hick do they get far enough under to sign Peyton?
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