What Is Our Biggest Need?
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 26, 2012 5:42 PM EST
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PrintIt seems to me that as the Jets move forward into the offseason, they need to prioritize. There a lot of things that need to be fixed on the team, but when push comes to shove, there needs to be a priority list. Among the things that need to be addressed are safety, right tackle, wide receiver, linebacker, quarterbacks, coaching, and so on.
Some things should be the focus of the draft, such as wide receiver and linebacker. Others are more suited to free agency, like safety and right tackle. But I believe the biggest concern has to be coaching. Last year, many people believed our most important "move" was signing Tom Moore as a consultant. Damien Woody was very adamant on Twitter that it was the biggest change we made.
We've long said that the team will only go as far as Mark Sanchez can take us. Other positions like safety and right tackle can be fixed with a new player. With all we have invested in Sanchez, it's nearly impossible for us to get a "new" player. Instead, we have to look to coaching to get him where he needs to be. We all saw with the Panthers, Broncos, and 49ers what good coaching can do for a quarterback. Sanchez needs something similar, an innovator who can play to his strengths, while helping him get better at his weaknesses.
Now, Tony Sparano is, in my opinion, a good replacement for Schottenheimer. But he isn't what's important. Getting a QB coach or passing coordinator who can balance with the ground game and play to Sanchez's strengths is. I've made it clear before that I don't think Matt Cavanaugh is that guy. I feel as though our next season lies in the hands of Mike Tannenbaum and his decision on how to progress with the coaching of the quarterback position.
How about you all, though? What do you think is our biggest need, coming in to the offseason?
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But players are most important…a great player can make an average coach look great, but it’s much harder for an awesome coach to make a shitty player look good. It can happen, but it’s harder. So talent is my first choice.
And that’s at Safety. We need TWO new starting safeties. The NFL is a copy cat league, and not only do we have to worry about the NE problem of covering TEs but other teams will soon follow suit.
If Mark has a career year and we are scoring 28 points a game, it won’t matter is teams keep torching us over the middle and scoring 30 points.
Yes, I use hyperbole, but safeties are the biggest problem.
I feel like it’s the opposite, actually. Coaching makes average players look great and great players look average. Rex’s first two years, superior defensive coaching pulled an average team into the playoffs. On the flip side, if a player has fantastic talent but isn’t being coached well or put in the right position, he’ll still fail.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 26, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think things are getting ironed out
Sparano brings a much needed identity to the offense. And if Sanchez struggles, we’ll just run it more, run some wildcat crap, and if we lose running it, Sparano will take the blame. Sanchez IMO will do better when the pressure is taken off of him.
The new goal is just to get first downs. Keep the ball. Extend drives. Eat clock.
Biggest need? Pass rushing OLB. Gotta pressure the opposing QB. Turn the ball over. Put the opposing offense in 3rd and long. The get the ball back to our RBs.
Rinse, repeat.
I like this because.....
…. Brady standing tall in the pocket with a CLEAN uniform spells disaster for us. But when you look at games like our 2010 Playoff win in Foxboro and the other few times we’ve managed to beat him. A couple of things stand out: 1) Pressure….non-stop pressure from all directions at him so they can’t protect just one area 2) we get him all dirty and he is less effective after getting knocked down on a regular basis and then getting wrapped up in a number of sacks. When you get those two things happening he is as human as the next QB. Those “Rushs” on his passes just as easily turn into 3 and outs or interceptions. Its the only way to exploit this guy and win. If you let him off the field clean guaranteed you lost the game 99% of the time.
"It's only through change we learn to grow".
by Canadian Jet on Jan 28, 2012 3:39 AM EST up reply actions
Pass rusher, safety, o-line depth, backup QB and Braylon edwards.
Pass rusher prospects look great this year. Upshaw, and Ingram are killing the senior bowl. I want to see mercilus In the combine too. We can improve our defense big time with one pick
Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
Offensive Line, Safety, WR, LB
But second most importantly after offensive line is a new attitude
aggressive young and fast should be the motto. The new Jets need a new mindset
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by Simon Says Jets on Jan 26, 2012 6:10 PM EST reply actions
Me too...
Right now it seems so impossible, so many reasons why it can’t happen, that I think it does.
Do I want it? Eh…I’m one of the biggest Sanchez supporters there is…BUT…
More than anything I want the Jets to win it all…at this point in my life, and after seeing Jason The Enemy Taylor in green and white, I think I’d be okay with all my hated players coming in as long as we win.
Would Peyton bring a Super Bowl? Fun to think about…
by Down Since '86 on Jan 26, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
biggest need for me is team chemistry
if we don’t have that it doesn’t matter who the coaches are , or what new players we bring in . there is no way we get success unless the players buy back into what Rex is selling . fixing team chemistry will help us the most next year , it gives the new coaches and players a sturdy base to build this team to even greater heights . if we fail to fix it then everything can still come crashing down at everyone’s feet whoever we draft or sign . we need to start building this team on concrete not quick sand
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I’ll take a good dose of that and put it into the melting pot…..very good point raised.
"It's only through change we learn to grow".
by Canadian Jet on Jan 28, 2012 3:26 AM EST up reply actions
I'd have to go QB
Whether it is Sanchez or someone else. Improved QB play would make up for so much other weaknesses in the team.
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we will never win a sb with sanchez.. no matter who coaches him.
Hmm, isn't that what they all said about Eli?
Look at him now, he’s won a superbowl, is going to another one, has the nfl record for road playoff victories, is two seasons away from being the Giants’ all time leader in passing yards, has the Giants’ all time record for single season passing yards, is one of the better, if not best, quarterbacks in the league, and is making a case to one day be called the best quarterback the Giants have ever had.
Sanchez is good. so you stop.
he has no protection.
by Jonathan Reynoso on Jan 26, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
With Wayne Hunter...
…we won’t have Mark as a QB for much longer. Also, we’re not going to win games against anyone, especially the Patriots with our Safeties being exploited like they were this past season. My list goes RT, S, QB coach, WR. Of course I would place Trent Richardson right after RT if I believed he would fall to us.
Pass rusher Pass rusher Pass rusher
Having a great, consistent pass rusher would partially nullify the effects of our godawful safeties since we wouldn’t have to spend 2 minutes in coverage every play. This would put the opponent in consistent 3rd and long situations and cause them to throw more picks.
both of them are dominating the senior bowl
Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
I'm still waiting to see what nick perry and whitney mercilus can do
Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
Its hard to just pick one, because there are so many important spots.
1- O Line. (Lets be fair. Mark had no time to throw the ball.)
2- Safety. ( God is Eric Smith bad & i dont think Jim will be back.)
3- WR. ( Plax is pretty much gone, and im not sure Mark can win with Holmes and Keller alone.)
4- LBS. ( They cant cover or get pressure. Besides David Harris, They all underachieved.)
5- TE. ( Holy smokes is Mulligan bad luck)
6- RB ( Im not sold on Green yet. He can get better with a good O line, but if not we better have insurance.)
by Jonathan Reynoso on Jan 26, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions
Coaching
is by far our biggest need so I agree with the premise of the article. I really hope we somehow revisit the Haley situation or speak to Hue Jackson because these are the kind of coaches that can get the best out of Sanchez. I just hope at this point that the QB coach is neither Cavanagh or Daboll because they both suck.
Other than coaching the biggest need position wise is what it has been for years; we desperately need a stud outside LB that can rush the passer. The difference between our defense and the best defenses is that we have virtually no pass rush. If we can get a pass rusher or two which I would love to see plus a new safety our defense can be what we want it to be.
Most of all the QB and passing game coordinator will decide the future of Mark Sanchez. If we get a guy like Haley or Jackson the sky is the limit but if we stick with Cavanagh or hire Daboll we might as well release Sanchez and give him a chance somewhere else.
Don't know why Cavanaugh wasn't thrown out with the bath water.All offensive coaches from last season
should be canned.Clean sweep and a fresh start.
by Putnan Prince on Jan 27, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Coaching is too intangible to bring up IMO
There’s so much between the coaching/on-field performance link that it’s hard to pinpoint. As fans, I don’t think we’re in position to really determine whether or not we have/know who makes for a good pass game coordinator or QB coach. So I’m just going to go with the player talent. And our biggest need there is pass rusher.
Definitely an elite pass rusher
All great defenses are able to get pressure on the QB. Its the biggest thing holding us back from being an elite defense.
by Dylan87 on Jan 26, 2012 7:29 PM EST via Android app reply actions
SS, FS, and anyone that can get to the QB
Obvious holes in are defense that can be fixed this year
by bllackkman on Jan 26, 2012 7:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Saw
that the Vikings want out of the 3rd pick and the Jets may be interested, for who?? And why would they mortgage their draft for that, when they have so many needs??
If tanny did that and it didn't work out
he’d possibly get fired. I don’t think that’s actually gonna happen though.
RT
With the change of philosophy being a renewed commitment to the power running game, its important that we be able to… you know… run the ball. And you can’t have a dominant running game without a mauler at RT.
Now the RT doesn’t have to be the best player or the biggest splash signing/selection of the off season. But dude needs to maul. If we run better, we set up the playaction pass better and we take pressure off the pass game in general. With a more efficient offense, we sustain more drives and allow our defense more rest and better field position. The effect of a better RT tackle trickles down and improves the entire team.
by Crackback on Jan 26, 2012 7:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I can agree with that
But I think RT is easier to fix then OLBs
by CervezaVerde on Jan 26, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly!!
The RT spot could be fixed with a veteran FA like Kareem McKenzie or possibly a 3rd or 4th round draft pick. Either solution would be effective and fixed at a pretty cheap cost. Thus that is obviously NOT the most important need. To say it is is absurd.
Average or a vet on the downhill side of his career won’t fix the OLB spot. The Jets have been there done that. Above average OL can be found every year and in every draft. Stud pass rushers cannot. The only way they fix the pass rush is by being lucky or aggressive enough to draft a great young prospect, trading for an established veteran or on the rare occasion that one is available, signing a big ticket FA like Mario Williams. Signing Williams would preclude addressing any other holes in FA, would preclude re-signing Pouha and they’d have to get very lucky in the draft to find both a starting S (or two) AND a starting RT.
Similarly, topflight #1 WRs don’t come into FA unless they are head cases and major headaches for their former teams. The only way the Jets can address the WR position is via the draft. Fortunately the draft is an excellent one for both OLBs and WRs. It isn’t a good one for Safeties, and is so-so for OTs.
Imo, the only solution that makes sense both short term and long term, and which will address as many of the needs as possible and in as significant a fashion as is possible considering who is available in FA and in the draft is to:
in FA
1) Sign Kareem McKenzie or another FA RT
2) Sign a S like Michael Griffin or Reggie Nelson, or possibly Tyvon Branch
3) If possible, re-sign Pouha. If not use the money that would have been used to sign a cheaper veteran QB like Dennis Dixon or a TE like Carlson or Davis
in the draft:
Come out of the draft with two OLB prospects, at least one S if not two, an OT, a blocking TE, an ILB, a P, a K, and OG
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WR
The Jets could also address WR by bringing back Braylon, but I doubt they will have the money once they sign a RT, S and either Pouha or a blocking TE like Carlson or Davis
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Edwards signed for $3 Million last year.Now off an injury riddled season,Jets could sign him
for that or less for a one year contract.With his baggage there won’t be many suitors.
by Putnan Prince on Jan 27, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Hahaha
Kareem McKenzie or another FA RT
I was like yeah, Kareem is getting up there into old fart teritory.
by CervezaVerde on Jan 27, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
You said it
Sanchez is the biggest priority. A good QB can hide a lot of weaknesses on a team. Obviously there are upgrades needed at RT, S, OLB, and WR but the progression of Sanchez is the biggest. This is a QB league and you need guy who can get your team wins
by FlightBoy83 on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Tanny better get to work!
well our top priority has been addressed — get rid of schotty. next, as many have said in this thread but perhaps in differing orders, we need to target: O line, pass rusher, safety. those are the three most important parts IMHO. after that we can address WR, TE, backup QB, maybe another RB.
our biggest need
TO WIN THE FRIGGIN SUPERBOWL
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No Peyton
He is not the answer. Tanny knows the blue print and Rex does too- We needed the 2011 season to slap us like it did. It was humbling and now we can address our needs.
Peyton is one Hali Ngota hit away from a possible career and life altering injury.
plus he has been away from game for 1 yr
look at all the QB;s that sat a full yr and came back,there year back they wern’t doing playing as b/4 they were hurt..takes a good 1/2 season or longer to get back into Sync..BUT Jets do need a strong reliable backup QB!! one that can put pressure on our current QB…right Now he knows no matter what errors he makes nobody is on side-lines that will come in..thats the Coaching Blunder;s..I mean if Sanchez is hurt who do Jets have to cover?..not a 40plus yr old has-been…
Our Biggest need...Safety
Everyone remember the saying a chain is only as strong as its weakest link?
We have a dominating Corner CORPS best in the NFL but our secondary is crap because our safteys are crap. If you get an average safety you get an average secondary..and with revis cro and wilson that is a CRIME.
Now for our line you got Brick (who had a bad year, lets hope its not a trend) and Mnagold and moore who is on a down slide. (nothing personal just father time is not on his side) Slason = well above average but i would not say good and hunter who needs to be cut.
With out hunter the line is overall good so a GOOD RT makes for a good line. A good safety makes for a good secondary,….but a great safety makes for a Great secondary. A great RT only still makes for a good line.
Forgot to mention
If we get a great pass rusher than we just gave every quaterback in the NFL the easiest job on the planet…. "[any] QB thought pattern… rush is comming quick.. (1) forget the guy covered by revis (2) the guy coverd by Cro is 80-20% likely covered tight (3) here comes the rush gotta get it out. (4) THROW IT TO THE GUY COVERED BY THE SAFETY E.SMITH FOR A 48 YARD TOUCHDOWN. (5) next play skip step 1, 2, and 3 go straight to step 4…
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