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MIAMI GARDENS, FL - JANUARY 01:  Mark Sanchez #6 and Dustin Keller #81 of the New York Jets celebrate a touchdown during a game at Sun Life Stadium on January 1, 2012 in Miami Gardens, Florida.  (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)

Quick thanks to GGNer itsjat for pointing this out. It appears that there are vague trade rumors about our very own TE Dustin Keller. Here is an article that mentions it. Keller has 65 catches for 815 yards on the year, and is Mark Sanchez's security blanket. Perhaps it is no coincidence that Jake Steinberg of SNY's www.thejetsblog.com noted the Jets were seen taking an interest in the tight ends (notably Michael Egnew out of Missouri) at the Senior Bowl today.

This, I feel, would be a disastrous move. I understand the Jets could probably get a good amount in a Keller trade, however it could have far reaching impact. At the beginning of the year, we saw the potential with our own two-TE sets in Keller and Jeff Cumberland. That was ruined when Cumberland tore his achilles and we saw more of Matt Mulligan. To remove Keller would put us even farther behind, relying on a relative rookie, Cumberland (we don't know how his achilles will fare), and a to-be-named tight end.

Not only that, but as I mentioned earlier, Sanchez and Keller have a fantastic relationship. He's the only receiver on the team that he truly has great chemistry with, and is a valuable security blanket. Removing Keller would be to destroy Sanchez's receiving corps for the fourth straight year. Every year he's had different receivers, yet the one constant was Keller. It would be a bad idea to rip that constant out.

In any case, let us know what you think in the comments below, if Keller should be traded, and what price he'll command.

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The thing about Keller is

Sparano’s offense may not utilize receiving tight ends much, and Dustin ain’t much of a run blocker. If they still plan to use Keller as a receiver, then for god’s sake, please keep him. Also, he’s Mark’s bff on the team

by darshv3 on Jan 25, 2012 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

This is probably a good move, if its true.

Keller is a good player and he has good value. But he has less value in a system predicated on the power running game. We could flip him for a good pick/player. Would love it if we could get speedy backer or a good safety for him.

by Crackback on Jan 25, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

Im hoping Mulligan isnt even on this team in 12

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by YankeesJets on Jan 25, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Why can’t we sign/draft a blocking TE? They’re cheap. Maybe trade him to Carolina for Harstock and RT Otah/Bell.

by Crackback on Jan 25, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would they do that?

They already have Shockey and Greg Olson

by jets! on Jan 26, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah lets take all of sanchez's weapons and get rid of them!

Wtf are they thinking over there….

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by jets4life24 on Jan 25, 2012 9:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Its so we can whine about Sanchez's lack of development.

He’s going to be throwing to cones they find out in the parking lot soon.

by EVT on Jan 26, 2012 7:18 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by tinley24 on Jan 26, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly though

I’d hate to see him leave regardless of what they system is gonna dictate. As mentioned in the post, he’s been Mark’s one constant, and him and Mark have great chemistry.

by darshv3 on Jan 25, 2012 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

Not surprising

Keller is a UFA at the end of the year and would be expensive to sign. Once again Tannenbaum would rather gamble on an unknown quantity then pay someone who has been reliable year in year out.

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by Mark D on Jan 25, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

It all depends what the Jets would be getting back

Keller isnt a bad player but he isnt the guy that we thought we were getting. Keller doesnt always seem to be on the same page as Sanchez and doesnt seem to exploit the mismatches the way he should. This guy is plenty replaceable but I wouldnt move him just to make a move.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 25, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

I'm up in the air on this one

He is coming up on a contract year. After this year he might fetch $7 mill per year. That is pretty expensive. If we won’t give him that then he is gone in a year anyway. So they could try to get something for him now.

We have Cumberland and Baker. Thats kinda redundant x3.

It wouldn’t have anything to do with fit in the new offense. He would fit perfectly. So might Cumberland and Baker too.

by CervezaVerde on Jan 25, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

I think it really does depend on how he'd fit into the offense

but if we do trade him, i’d want at least a second and another mid round pick

by darshv3 on Jan 25, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

I don't recall

Tony Sporano running the offense in the mid-90s. The question is, in Sporano’s new offense, how will the TEs be used? Keller is a good receiving threat, but he can’t block. Will that make him a liability in a run first offense? Maybe. Players are really only as good as their usefulness to a particular system.

by struckanerve9 on Jan 26, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Sparanos Offense....

Use a ton ofr bootlegs and Play actions…. One argument IN FAVOR of Keller staying is that on bootlegs, the TE would only have to slide block, only having to hold on to the outside guy for a few seconds before releasing him. If DK can do that, he should stay, since he has been Sanchez’s favorite reciever. However on the flip side of that… sparano trends to call running plays… A LOT!… so would DK be as useful as previous years?

Shotty had Sanchez throwing a ton of short routes, where he would target DK alot in the the hook routes. I doubt sparano will follow in thoese foot steps of short field throws. I see tony taking it deep, giving shots down that would open up due to the run which will be awefully prevalant next season.

by JragonEyez on Jan 26, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

further more

I Heart DK…. but if this is a contract year, i vote to trade him for some good draft picks…. this is a building year, so let us stack the house…

by JragonEyez on Jan 26, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

No

As much as what everybody is saying that he isn’t the elite receiving tight end that we would hope for, this offense sucks. Lets get real, no RB on the roster is a HR threat (jury still out on how good McKnight can be as a true RB), Holmes has problems with sanchez and isn’t a number one receiver (if he gets doubled he gets taken out of the play totally), and everybody else is just average. Keller is probably the only TRUE mismatch the Jets have on this side of the ball and would be difficult to replace.

by flixenuz on Jan 25, 2012 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

exactly why i'm so torn on this

He was the one and only reliable receiving threat we had. It’d be such a gamble to trade him, regardless of what we’d end up getting.

by darshv3 on Jan 25, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true

if we trade Keller we are essentially killing any chance this team has for success with Mark Sanchez as QB. This has been one rough offseason so far. This team needs to keep its core guys and Keller is part of our core.

by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 25, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

If we do, we'd better draft Coby Fleener from Stanford.

Dude is 6’6" 260 lbs. Clone of Rob Gronkowski. He’s got nice speed, leaping ability, and catching ability. Also, he’s a very good in-line blocker. Could be a better overall tight end prospect than Keller was coming in.

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 25, 2012 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

I think you mean Rudolph...as in Kyle Rudolph.

Kyle Rudolph is in the NFL with the Vikings already. He’s talking about Tyler Eifert.

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 26, 2012 7:40 AM EST up reply actions  

He's a mid-second rounder in my opinion.

Dwayne Allen and Orson Charles will likely go before him. If we do in fact trade Keller, then I think Fleener might be perfect in the second round.

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 25, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

but what about other immediate needs such as

OLB,RT,S,and to a lesser extent, WR? We don’t need any more holes.

by darshv3 on Jan 25, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it's all hypothetical, lol.

The truth is that there is no way of predicting this stuff. Just saying that if the Jets trade Keller and they feel they need to find his replacement in the draft, Fleener in the 2nd round could be a good fit.

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 26, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

SoOOoOo stupid !!

If the Jets trade Keller i will not watch a Jets game for the rest of my life . What’s going on in Floral Park ??? The Jets need to make a change in the front office or something .They are going to trade keller , the only target Sanchez feels comfortable with. They are really acting up if this is true … Stupid stupid stupid !!!!!!!!!

by MeAnGreeND on Jan 25, 2012 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Not really

New Offensive Coordinator means an entirely new offensive system. One in which Keller may not be used as much due to his poor blocking. If Keller’s skills aren’t used, then perhaps he should be traded so that the Jets can get someone that will contribute to their new offensive system. It really all depends on the return. What can they get for him?

by struckanerve9 on Jan 26, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Keller will ever be a pro-bowl tight end, he will be a UFA next year and sometimes these types of decisions must made now not a year from now. Down the stretch although consistent and GOOD it’s hard to say he played GREAT. I think the realization that he is one of our only real bargaining chips and he is a sub Gronk-Hernadez receiving threat may be part of the consideration…if it’s even true

by Jetkid13 on Jan 25, 2012 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

i wouldn't mind this move at all

keller has been a big underachiever for us and he will want to get paid next year .
if we could trade him for some extra picks ( 2nd and a 4th) or trade him for a good RT i’d be ok with that .
Fred Davis and John Carlson are both FA this year and would want a lot less than keller to sign with us .
so if you said Davis and a 2nd and 4th for keller i’d snap your hand off .there is no guarantee he is with the team after this year anyway

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by tinley24 on Jan 25, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

Fred Davis, and a 2nd and a 4th, would be a good deal, IMO.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 25, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be a sweet deal

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by YankeesJets on Jan 25, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn't Fred Davis on a four game suspension?

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 25, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Does he still have all 4 games to go?

Santonio was suspended for the first four games of last year and we got by. I doubt this deal would ever happen anyway.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

You're all crazy

He will net us a third round pick. All those factors that make us want to trade him are also factors another team will look at.in judging what they will offer us.

by viguy007 on Jan 26, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Keller

is really not an underacheiver in my opinion. I think every guy on our offense puts up less than stellar numbers due to bad offensive coaching. Put Keller in a good offense and his numbers will explode. Very similar situation to Santonio Holmes in that Holmes was great with the steelers but hasnt done much with us because the offense has been bad.

Every year the fans complain about our skill players on offense when the problem lies with the coaching staff. Unless the new offensive staff does a better job than the last one things wont change.

by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 25, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It cant all be on the coaching

I mean the coaching had to do something to get us to the back to back title games. The players need to be held accountable too. The fact is we have a QB who still needs to develop, that is the main reason why the offense has struggled at times. I used to be tough on Sanchez but he can still be a very good QB. He just needs to take charge and grab the respect of his teammates.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

i would do that, but they’d never do that.

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by rexthejet on Jan 25, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

which bit ?

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by tinley24 on Jan 25, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean

they’d never give us a 2nd and a 4th for someone who has never made a pro bowl.

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by rexthejet on Jan 25, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

you never know

i think he is worth at least a 2nd . even if the 4th was the years after i wouldn’t mind
but then again we did give away rhodes for a 5th

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by tinley24 on Jan 25, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

We got a 4th in 2010 and a 7th in 2011 for Rhodes

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree he's an underachiever

Also, Keller not being able to block also hurts the team. The league is changing, the blocking & catching TE is making a comeback.

by BIG OH!!!!! on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Davis caught 59 rec for 796 yds and 3 td’s but the downside is that one more suspension for substance abuse will result in a season-long suspension.that will harm the amount he gets offered

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by tinley24 on Jan 25, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Why the hell would the Skins do that?

Keller might not even be better than Davis at all, much less Davis plus a 2 and a 4.

by J-Nasty on Jan 25, 2012 10:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

davis is a FA

Fred Davis and John Carlson are both FA this year and would want a lot less than keller to sign with us .

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by tinley24 on Jan 26, 2012 5:39 AM EST up reply actions  

but he is a FA

i don’t think they franchise him and because they have Cooley might mean ( a ) the skins don’t want to tie much money to the same position and ( b ) Davis might want to go to a team where he will be number 1 on the depth chart , and ( c ) with the suspension hanging over his head the skins might want to offer him a low deal .

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by tinley24 on Jan 26, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm not saying we trade keller to the skins

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by tinley24 on Jan 26, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Have to agree with tinley here.. With Keller, remember, just because you draft them doesnt mean you get to keep them forever. I like Keller, but the fact that he had the most receptions on the team is an indication of a problem with the O, not necessarily a good thing. In a run first O, we need power blocking TEs and I think that Keller’s value has never been higher for trade. You arent going to bring in a new OC and not make a few contraversial moves, and as people have been complaining about – we need draft picks to get younger across the team.

If you can get a 2nd and 4th as some people on here were asking for, you can get a very decent WR in the 2nd and bundle up some of the lower round picks to grab an extra S or a RB (and I like what I read about picking a RB every year and churning and burning through them looking for a gem in the middle rounds).

As mentioned above, you can find blocking TE cheaper than Keller and even use some backup OL in Jumbo sets as blocking TEs.

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by NC_Scott on Jan 26, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

...what??

no way would i trade Keller. what the hell is this FO thinking? hes led the team in receptions the last 2 years and every year he improves. unless were getting a 1st and 3rd then no thank you. Keller is a top 10 TE and has potential to be a top 5. no way should we trade him.

by np3 on Jan 25, 2012 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

Keller will never be a top 5 TE

Look at some of the guys in the top 5, Gronk, Graham, Finley, Davis, Witten. With a good QB, you can add Dallas Clark to that list. Sorry but Keller isnt close to those guys.

When you look at the next tier, I still see them as better than Keller. You have guys like Winslow, Celek, Daniels, Hernandez And Davis in that next batch. Keller is a middle of the pack TE, if the Jets can get a great deal for him, I send him packing.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Keller had more yards and 1 less TD than Vernon Davis on less catches, more yards and more TD than Winslow, caught more balls and had more yards than Finley, only 100 yards less than Witten and Hernandez, and had a better season than Pettigrew who caught 83 balls compared to Keller’s 65 and had a better season than Fred Davis who people seem to want over Keller.

so i wouldn’t say that’s far from the top given that the top TE (Gronk, Graham, Witten, Gates) have way better QB than Keller. no way is he “middle of the pack” hes top 10 hands down.

by np3 on Jan 26, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

See I didnt even mention Gates or Gonzalez because they are nearing the end..

..yet they are also still better than Keller. As far as Davis, I think he missed a bunch of games due to injury, so thats an unfair comparison. Keller on his best day is lucky to crack the top 10. And those top TEs would excel in most systems.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

you put Gronk in our system and he doesn’t put up the same numbers he does with Brady, same goes for Graham and Witten. isn’t it funny how all those top TE have elite QB?

what im saying is lets not act like Keller isn’t any good. the fact is he IS a mismatch for LB and he has potential to be really good. he had 65 catches with 815 yards. he was 6th of all TE.

catching passes from Sanchez- i wonder what number he’d put up catching balls from Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Peyton Manning or Rivers.

by np3 on Jan 26, 2012 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Never said he wasnt good, he is average

He has had some solid games but he is inconsistent and doesnt seem to exploit the mismatches enough. He did have a pretty good QB in his rookie year and he put up decent numbers but he hasnt really broken out. Also Sanchez might not have the best deep ball but im pretty sure he can hit a short pass pretty decently.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 3:26 AM EST up reply actions  

really.

its not about how he ranks against other TE, as so much about how he fills the needs on OUR team and the chemistry / relationship he has with our QB…the role he has on OUR team.
That is what must be evaluated before we send him packing.
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by willmpk on Jan 26, 2012 2:47 AM EST up reply actions  

The guy is replaceable

I dont advocate trading him just to trade him. Dont want another dumb Lowery trade but if lets say they are gonna package Keller and the #16 pick to move up for someone special, I say do it. If they can get a #2, do it. This guy’s head isnt always in the game(unless Mark is hitting it) and his blocking is still meh. I just put up all those other names to show you how this guy isnt this great special TE some of you think he is.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

fair point

he is not special, but he is a favorite target of a young QB that has not had consistancy his entire NFL carer. He is a good reciever…good TE not so much.
I would only trade him in a package deal for an ELITE Safety, talking Earl Thomas , Troy Palumalo type…nothing less than ELITE. I could see Keller + our RD 1 and RD 3 picks for an ELITE safety and a teams 2ND RD pick…
Anything else is just plain WRONG
but all in all hes good hes a weapon but he is replacable for the right deal as well…but generally speaking he should be kept on the team

by willmpk on Jan 26, 2012 4:25 AM EST up reply actions  

TE are not needed

if Sparano is bringing back the run n shoot

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by Judgegavel on Jan 25, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

Don't do it jets... Don't do it.

Unless you’re getting something REALLY good dont do it. What they should do is call up braylon’s agent… Maybe even j-co if they want to get the flyboys back together.

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by jets4life24 on Jan 25, 2012 10:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Why?

There’s no way we’re doing better than a 3rd for Keller… which is less than his value to us.

by J-Nasty on Jan 25, 2012 10:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

exactly

unless you’re getting a sick deal, there’s really no point in trading arguably our best weapon on offense.

by np3 on Jan 25, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I would trade Keller but not for a third.

That wouldnt make any sense.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a bad feeling that...

letting go of dustin this year would cause a similar effect to letting go of Braylon this past season. I’m aware we didn’t release Braylon, i just used the term “let go” as a general phrase

by darshv3 on Jan 25, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

If Dustin is gonna wind up having the same season that Braylon did this year, I feel bad for him

Its funny, everybody swears our offensive guys suffered under Schotty, yet Braylon only had a bad year because he wasnt playing in Schotty’s system.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I meant a similar effect on us

as in, we’re gonna lose a big part of our offense and realize how much we miss him. But that’s just speculation

by darshv3 on Jan 26, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Mixed feelings about this possibility. Keller never really evolved as a blocker, and I feel like he was always a bit overrated as a receiver too. But, I would want either a young guy with a ridiculously high ceiling or an established entity coming in to replace him. If we can get good value, I say do it.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jan 25, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

Keller was rated the 25th best TE in the league in DYAR

by Football Outsiders this year. (DYAR 49). That’s right. Right behind J. Shockey!
And by DVOA he’s was rated 31st.

That is some kind of wow for Sanchez’s security blanket “best friend”.

Much like Greene, he just isn’t as good as every Jet fan seems to think he is.

Depends on what we get for him, but in a league of great TEs he is barely average (by performance).

by ________key on Jan 25, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

This

Couldnt agree more on all of it. Behind Shockey!? Nuff said.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

The problem with that is

Those numbers are affected by the offense they’re in, the QB that’s throwing for them, the line that’s blocking for them. Greene probably isn’t very great, but considering he got hit in the backfield constantly, he’s better than the numbers made him look. Keller is thrown to by Mark friggin Sanchez, he is MUCH better than the numbers make him look. He has lapses of concentration, but after the catch he’s as good as any TE this side of Vernon Davis. He’s putting up those numbers while NOT in wide open space all the time unlike other TEs in real offenses that don’t have defenses crowding the line of scrimmage and filling every inch of space between the yard sticks.

Dude is a playmaker when he gets the ball in space. If we cut him for any reason I would bet BOTH my testes that the Pats snatch him up immediately, and he proceeds to destroy the NFL.

by Exystence on Jan 26, 2012 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Much like Greene, he just isn’t as good as every Jet fan seems to think he is

Too general a statement, some fans like me think Keller should be moved. I can think of plenty games where he had negative plays like drop TD’s or getting strip of the ball. Don’t make me do it.

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A little hyperbole on my part. :)

by ________key on Jan 26, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like Keller but there were plenty of times where i felt Sanchez pushed him the ball when there were so many other and better options out there and then on top of it watch Keller drop the pass. It was always very depressing. And in a Sporano run offense we’re gonna need him to be a better blocker. With the contract year coming up if he goes I’ll look at it as a smart move but we will need to find someone who can quickly become new security. Losing Keller AND LT in the same offseason could be devestating. Who do we turn to.. Kerley? Verdict is out on McKnight… Holmes is a variable at the moment and our 2 receiver Scooby Doo couldn’t figure out yet. Damn.. who are we?

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by Tamarack on Jan 26, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't mind sending feelers

but I don’t mind keeping him either. And we can still draft an in-line tight end ala Gronk. That way we can have our new draftee and Keller in the same sets in our ground and pound.

by PowerBar on Jan 25, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

Keller shouldn't be moved... unless the right deal is there.

What would you guys want as compensation? Me, I want a first rounder and then some for him. Feelers is one thing, but actively shopping a guy and creating another hole is just not a great idea. I do not think you can get the kind of deal that would make up for another hole in talent.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 26, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

What are you high? A first rounder plus?

No, I wouldn’t even expect a first rounder, let alone plus. I’d trade him for a good RT/S.

by Crackback on Jan 26, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

thats my point, can you give me one team willing to trade a safety or RT?

I doubt many will for a TE. That’s what leads me to believe were getting draft picks where I want but do not expect a first rounder.
your point is still valid, I’d love to get a safety or RT for him if we could swing that deal.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 26, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I have to agree, who would want to trade anything of value for a middle of the pack TE?

Im thinking they would get a 3rd rounder at best. Not sure that really helps this team unless they are possibly trying to move up in the first round.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d take a middle of the pack RT/S for him in a heartbeat. And I’d give that up in a heartbeat for a player like Keller if I had a young stud I needed to make room for.

by Crackback on Jan 26, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

So would I

Not for nothing our fanbase values every player on are team like they are the best in the game. Whether its Sanchez, Greene or Keller, its like they are Pro Bowlers that can do no wrong. There are three guys on this team that can do no wrong in my eyes, Revis, Mangold and Harris. Those are the only three guys that need to remain on this team, the others are all replaceable.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 2:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d move Harris if the price is right. He’s another guy I think we tend to overrate.

by Crackback on Jan 26, 2012 6:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd take Harris off the list and put Ferguson on it

An ILB with coverage limitations and inconsistent block shedding is not untouchable. Brick had a down year but when he’s on he’s one of the very best LT in the game, and even if you think he’s not a top notch tackle, he’s at least very good and those guys aren’t easy to find on the blind side.

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Little General there. Only player I want to keep who you all don’t want is Leonhard.. but now i’m on the bandwagon to make him a coach! lol.

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by Tamarack on Jan 26, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we please keep Keller,

and get rid of Sanchez? That would make me =-) lol

by umohan21 on Jan 26, 2012 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

I'm Torn

Your points are valid. He has been Sanchez’s safety valve and lone consistent target he’s had during his career. It could be a disastrous move, but it also could be a very smart move. Here’s why.

First, we all know that Keller isn’t that good of a blocker. Sparano’s offense is more of a power running attack and vertical passing attack, so I’m not sure how good a fit Keller would be in Sparano’s system. If they would actually use him correctly (as opposed to how BS used him), then he could become a very valuable asset if he can stop dropping passes and become just a little bit better and more willing blocker.

Two, with Keller being a UFA after next year, he could be less expensive to re-sign if his numbers go down in 2012 and he isn’t that good a fit, but if he isn’t a good fit, why would they want to re-sign him? The Jets would just lose him and have to depend upon a compensatory pick in the 2013 draft.

Three, he hasn’t been that consistent. Much of that I will lay on BS, but still, Keller fails to get open at times and drops too many passes for my liking. He isn’t the dominant TE that a Gates, Gronk and a few others are. I liked drafting him a few years ago because I thought he was the best TE prospect in the draft, but I wasn’t wild about trading up to get him, and thought it might have not been wise since he doesn’t have prototypical TE size.

Four, as far as I’m concerned, Keller and Cumberland are basically the same player. They are both primarily receivers, and not as good at blocking. Cumberland is both taller and faster and provides a better target. The Jets may be high enough on him and feel confident that he could step in and give the team what Keller would in Sparano’s offense.

Five, if Keller isn’t a good fit, his numbers will go down and his value will drop. His value right now may be at the highest it ever will be as a Jet.

I don’t know what the Jets could get in return for him, but I would think they could get at least a 3rd rounder plus possibly another pick or player and maybe as high as a 2nd rounder plus another pick or player, or possibly a S or RT.

Trading him would give the Jets the ability to address another hole. Now I’m on record as saying you don’t fix one hole by creating another hole. I still stand by that. I don’t think a whole would be created. First, as Tinley and some others I think point out, John Carlson and Fred Davis are available in FA. Keller’s cap value is $1,152,500. The Jets could sign one of them although it would probably cost more than what Keller is being paid. Either Carlson or Davis would probably be better fits than Keller, are better blockers and would be more versatile than Keller. Mulligan would be gone, but they could keep Baker as the #3 TE or they could even possibly draft a TE somewhere between rounds 2-5 who is equally adept at receiving and blocking, and thus would be a better fit in Sparano’s system.

The downside would be Sanchez and the lack of continuity in the receiving corps. If the Jets can bring back Braylon and his knee is ok, he could help ease that frustration for Sanchez. That would also mean more throws would go to Holmes, which should keep him happier and better utilize his skills. If he has to stay, then they might as well use him to their best advantage and run him on routes until his arms and legs fall off (or some DB kills him). Kerley, Cumberland, and possibly both Turner and Baker would still be here as well as Holmes, so it’s not like Sanchez would have a completely new set of receivers to work with. It’s a business. If Sanchez is gonna mope about losing Keller, then he isn’t the franchise QB the team is looking for anyway.

Depending upon what they got in return for him, not only could they possibly address two other areas of need on the team, but they could possibly even upgrade their TE unit and run blocking as well by adding Carlson or Davis. Finally, if they don’t plan on re-signing him anyway then it’s better to get the most for him now they can rather than waiting and hoping they’ll get a 3rd next year as a compensatory pick.

I wouldn’t move him just for the sake of moving him, but if they feel they can improve the team by doing so and get a good deal,t hen I think they should pull the trigger.

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by joeklecko on Jan 26, 2012 12:22 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Very well put, all great points

But I thought Brunell was Sanchez’s safety valve?

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

great take

I totally agree with you. We got too many wholes in our team, specially on defense. We are nowhere near the Texans defense, 49rs and Baltimore. Ofcourse you could argue that neither tem is in the super bowl and huge part of it was not having an explosive offense and trading Keller would make Sanchez weaker, but the truth is that Keller is highly overrated and he has too many drops. Im upset that we pass on Grankski to pick up Ducasse ans kyle wilson. Lets get the most we can for this guy

by monaso on Jan 26, 2012 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

just to add

finlay is also a FA this year

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by tinley24 on Jan 26, 2012 5:57 AM EST up reply actions  

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by Tamarack on Jan 26, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

This way, Tannenbaum can draft another Tight End in the 1st round

I never understood why the Jets drafted a tight end over Kenny Phillips, even with Phillips injuries. He has played a close to Pro bowl level for quite a while

by NikolaiC on Jan 26, 2012 1:50 AM EST reply actions  

I dont agree with that line of thinking at all

If they didnt select Keller, there are other guys they shouldve selected over Phillips.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 26, 2012 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Slot Receiver?

Can always move him to the slot and move Kerley to number two?

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by oneg82 on Jan 26, 2012 2:35 AM EST reply actions  

The chemistry with Keller is massively overhyped. I’ve never seen a player have to many balls hit him in the head without him looking, or even whizz right in front of his face. Keller can be great, and he can disappear. I wouldn’t miss him.

by Marandopsu on Jan 26, 2012 4:30 AM EST reply actions  

continuity

Sanchez has not had a solid group of recievers stay together for more than a year. Stop with the shuffling around and keep a core of players around him. That’s how these elite QB’s have so much success. Their FO don’t change their receving core like dirty underwear!
If they do trade him, which i’m against, it shouldn’t be no lower than a 3rd round pick.

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by greenandwhite4ever on Jan 26, 2012 5:29 AM EST reply actions  

i can think of loads of examples where continuity is never an issue for QB's

take a look at any decent rookie qb this year . any of the guys who did well ie newton and dalton , did so with all new WR’s and that is without any offseason .
Romo had Robinson as a new target and did fine.

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by tinley24 on Jan 26, 2012 5:56 AM EST up reply actions  

We don't need dusty

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by Papa T on Jan 26, 2012 7:10 AM EST reply actions  

no no no

our offense would collaspe. he is sanchez’s favorite target, getting rid of him would kill us

by ILOVETHEJETS on Jan 26, 2012 8:19 AM EST reply actions  

NO!

Keller can really become one of the premier TE’s in the league! The tight ends usually thrive in Sparano’s system-Jason Witten,Fasano really came into his own last year!

by chrebetsthebet on Jan 26, 2012 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

What makes anyone think some other team will give up a valuable asset for him?

because that’s what happens in the NFL . we gave up a 2nd for cro who had a terrible last year with the chargers and had many off field issues regarding child support .
if that was the case trades would never happen .

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by tinley24 on Jan 26, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Cro also played a MUCH HIGHER premium position.

This is the case, and that’s why NFL player trades are very rare compared to the other 3 major sports.

by J-Nasty on Jan 26, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

One way to think about what we'd do with keller in sparano's offense

Look at What Anthony Fasano did with the dolphins. He was a decent receiver when called upon, but they mostly used him as a blocker. Granted, the offense probably isn’t gonna be an exact replica of the Miami offense, but it’s just something worth bringing up.

by darshv3 on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

id say keep him

keep him but you do have to think long term. if you can get a few draft picks and pick up a replacement who is cheaper this year ok. We do not need more holes to fill however, and if you are sticking with sanchez it makes sense to keep him around.

is he elite? not really compared to guys like finley, gronk, davis etc. but he puts up decent numbers and would have been better with an elite QB. he is a liability in blocking however, and more of a WR. I can see Sparano behind a move like tis.

by RichTodd on Jan 26, 2012 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

Love ya Keller. But your the hottest commodity on the offense right now.

Your worth too much on the market and the new direction on the team leaves questions as to whether you will ever really hit your potential with an average QB like Mark.
Fans are gonna have to expect alot of this coming down the pipeline the next few months. Sparanos offense is vastly different than Shotty’s. Tony will no doubt have his own opinions on players that we have on our roster and will make drastic changes.
I’m actually suprised Keller stuck on the team after last offseason. I was waiting for trade rumors to start up then.

by Can'tWait on Jan 26, 2012 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

We all know if Keller gets traded to a team with a real QB

everyone here will be pissed cause he’d be a star. Keller is very talented. He was a mismatch every game this season and they barely utilize him who’s fault is that??

by JetsFan718 on Jan 26, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

Was it me or did Kerley seem to morph into Sanchez’s security blanket at the end of the season over Keller anyway?

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by Tamarack on Jan 26, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

that's what it looked like in the last game

Kerley had almost 80 receiving yards that game, more than any of the other receivers combined i believe. I think he could be a really good outlet receiver too. Still, I really like Keller

by darshv3 on Jan 26, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

If there is no plan to extend him this off season then I would try to trade him.

I don’t want to get into a bidding war with another team that might over value him and he walks for nothing. He is at best an average tight end. The flavor of the month in the next few years is to have two athletic tight ends, a la NE, until someone figures out the defenses to stop them. Keller is neither a Gronkowski or a Hernandez, and he’s not the blocking TE for a power offense. If we do trade him one solution might be to use Patrick Turner as that slot/receiving TE, to make better use of his size, and, if Cumberland is not progressing with his rehab, go for a Fred Davis type TE in FA or the draft.

by Traveling Man on Jan 26, 2012 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

What is WRONG with these people??? This is the same kind of logic that allowed Edwards and Cotchery to walk in favor of Burress and Mason—why would they want to let their most accurate ball-catcher go?

by JoCaT33 on Jan 26, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

Because...

The first goal is always to get better, and if you can get a better option at TE or use that piece in a trade to get an even more important piece somewhere else, you do it. The second is to avoid losing valuable assets without getting something in return. This is a business, and the bottom line is wins and losses. We are not talking about John Mackey or Dave Casper here. Hell, we aren’t even talking about Pete Lammons.

by Traveling Man on Jan 26, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

And Cotchery walked himself out.

He preferred being the 4th receiver on the Steelers to be being the 3rd receiver on the Jets. Edwards wasn’t going to get the money he wanted, and look at how that turned out for him. I’m sick and tired of hearing how the the front office is to blame for these moves. It takes two to tango. You can argue they shouldn’t have wasted the money on Mason, but Burress did as good as you could expect. And remind me what superior alternatives were out there at the time these signings took place?

by Traveling Man on Jan 26, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Edwards wasn’t going to get the money he wanted, and look at how that turned out for him. I’m sick and tired of hearing how the the front office is to blame for these moves

holmes got more money than he deserved and look how that worked out .

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by tinley24 on Jan 26, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that as well, but they probably payed pretty close to what Holmes would have gotten on the open market.

Maybe a slight premium. And as much as Holmes is to blame for a lot of what went wrong this year, it’s hard to be effective when all you are doing is running 10 yard slants and outs, and also knowing that your quarterback will never see you – for whatever reason – if you are not the first or second option.

by Traveling Man on Jan 27, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

NO WAY.

Keller is a great TE and he is the only reciever to actually be there since sanchez’s first season. We always complain about Sanchez’s inconsistancy, but how about the new batch of WR every season. We HAVE to keep him.

by markowski25 on Jan 26, 2012 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

i am now fully convinced thse trade rumours are true

i read that keller is due a 3m bonus on top of his 2m salary , making his cap figure 5m and putting us in a position where we can make any moves in FA . its because of this that i see trading keller as a very good option to save cap room , gain some picks and replace him with somebody cheaper . it actually would be a very smart move from the FO

we could trade keller fo a 2nd ( curry or adcock or martin )and 4th ( mccellin or iloka or ganaway )save 5m and sign davis or carlson for less . we save cap and get an extra 2 players from the draft and also find his replacement for less than the 5m he was getting . to me its a no brainer

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