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My Pre-Senior Bowl, Pre-Combine and Pre-team workout mock draft Rounds 1 (In light of Crack's post on Mocks)

After reading Crack's post on people's silly mocks I decided to take an extensive look at what a realistic, dream, and ideal mock looks like to me. I mentioned how this may be a little extensive so although it may be a little dry, I wanted to provide some rationale as to how I came to the conclusions that I have come to. Although I have no football experience, limited football knowledge and wouldn't be able to scout, I have learned a lot from reading people's posts/comments ( John B., tinley, AFCEASTBEAST, Crackback, JetKing, JoeKlecko, and many others) and I have come up with a list of prospects that would make sense for the Jets. To show you how I have come up with the Pre-Senior Bowl, Pre-Combine and Pre-team workout mock draft Rounds 1. I will show highlights of prospects, attempt to scout players, make semi-calculated guesses on what the Jets and other teams will do through FA, and base other teams picks based off of recent draft history, coaching changes, and who they might believe to be the BPA or BPN (best player by need). Again sorry for the long and dry opening paragraph, more after the jump.

Star-divide

To start off with I believe the Jets draft philosophy is drafting the BPA instead of the BPN (best player by need). You can see this based off of the Mike Tannebaum era of drafting. Since 2006 we have drafted the BPA available in almost every round. Often we have sacrificed quantity for quality which has benefited us.

Prospects

1st round prospects: QB RB: Trent Richardson WR: Justin Blackmon, Alshon Jeffrey, Kendall Wright, Mohamed Sanu TE G C OT: Riley Reiff, Jonathon Martin

DE NT OLB: (Including DE's that can make the transition) Courtney Upshaw, Nick Perry, Whitney Mercilus, Melvin Ingram, Zach Brown, VINNY CURRY ILB: Luke Kuelchy, Vontaze Burfict CB S: (Includes CB's that can transition to Safety) CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Mark Barron

Explaination: Now I think that you can take off Martin and Reiff. I think that if Kareem McKenzie hits the open market or Joe Staley does then we will go after them hard. Nonetheless, I think we will address the Right Door (Wayne Hunter) in the 2nd-4th round. The other position that I could see getting addressed is safety. Whether it is Tyvon Branch, or Michael Griffin. Maybe we trade for a safety I am not too sure. But I do think that FA will leave us until round 3 to address the position. Also at QB, I think that the Jets will be looking for a veteran QB who can provide a challenge for Sanchez. The first quarterbacks that come to MY mind are Orton, or Josh Johnson; however due to all of these coaching staff moves that the Jets are making I wouldn't be surprised if we sign Chad Henne. Sigh.

With those positions explained, I want to go over a dream, ideal, and likely draft board that the Jets will have for the prospects that are left for the 1st round.

Jets Top 10 Board: It depends on who you consoder to be the BPA and what best will affect the team. This team is lacking in 3 major areas. Pass blocking on the right side, young OLB's, and a deep field threat opposite Holmes (and yes I do believe we are keeping him, he is too expensive to cut and we would be getting 6th round value for a cancerous, underperforming #2 WR.)

With those needs in mind I'll show you what I believe could be the FO's Top 5 best prospects in the 1st round for the Jets:

  1. OLB Courtney Upshaw
  2. WR Justin Blackmon
  3. WR Alshon Jeffrey
  4. RB Trent Richardson
  5. WR Mohamed Sanu
    Rationale: Upshaw is told to be the best bet among the 3-4 OLB's in this draft. Although I think that it would be a stretch to say that one day he will be elite, I do think that he can put up a respectable 7-9 sacks a year. My reasoning for this is because so far I haven't seen that elite burst or top notch speed to get past the 1st defender on a regular basis. He appears to be very smart on the field though, and he is able to identify what the offense is doing and is a non stop hustle player. Sure tackling, good build and a small array of different pass rushing skills.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2NGJD_naF0

Blackmon: Lethal weapon that isn't afraid to go over the middle, sure hands, dynamic speed, and a great red zone target. Consistently put up great stats, but in my opinion Alshon Jeffrey would be better served on this team rather than Blackmon. If he falls to the Jets though I have a hard time imagining us passing him up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voprccSVyz4

Jeffrey: 6'4 229 lbs. Long arms, great run blocking, average speed, can win a jumpball, and with a little more strength and conditioning he could turn into the next 99% man's version of T.O. (when he was in his prime and minus the bad personality) He has dynamic playmaking ability, he has red zone target written all over him, has already beaten the best at the collegiate level, He uses his long arms to run block, and break away from defenders. He is an upgrade compared to what Braylon was for us. He would bring a deep field threat opening up Santonio from a double coverage and he would only help the run game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULKAO6R_0Rg&feature=related

Richardson: No I have not given up on Greene, but if Richardson makes it down to 16 and no one else higher on the big board is there we will either trade down or pick Richardson. If him and Jeffery are available then I think it would be a coin flip for who they draft. If he were to be drafted then I would think that Shonne Greene would be packaged in a deal for another pick. Anyway, everyone says that Richardson is a bit on the small side, but I don't consider 5'11 to be too small. He is elusive, penetrates the gap, has a knack for find the hole, and he drives defenders. I don't think he'll be able to truck as many people as he did in college but he doesn't need to. Defenders have a tough time bringing him down and he probably is the best playmaker in the draft. I think that he can come in right away and make an impact and I do believe that he has the talent to be an elite RB. He reminds me a lot of Ray Rice. Richardson could make us a legit threat on offense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abk3HgvwEeI

Sanu: I would only like this pick if we traded down and got a 1st and a second round pick. I do think that he possesses great talent, good size 6'2 215 lbs, not sure about the arm length but they look pretty long, great vision, looks pretty good in run blocking, and would be great in the wildcat. (which could be something big with a Sparono led offense.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXJKIE2jTL0

Overall: I think that the best pick here would best be served on offense with wither of the last three options (Jeffery, Richardson, and Sanu) Normally I would say Upshaw is the best pick but there is one player that made me change my mind........... VINNY CURRY

FO's Top 5 best prospects in the 2nd round for the Jets:

  1. OLB Vinny Curry
  2. ILB Vontaze Burfict
  3. OLB Lavonte David
  4. WR Nick Toon
  5. OLB Bruce Irvin

Curry: In my opinion he is the 3-4 OLB with the most potential to be an elite pass rusher in the NFL. If think this because of his size; 6-4 or 6-5 242 lbs, average speed, occasional elite burst show off the line, sound tackling, always hustling, great strength and long arms. I think that he has the potential to be a Brian Orakpo. Can't imagine him being a great at man coverage but could be decent at zone. I think that he would be a stud under Rex and he would greatly improve the pass rush (meaning that we wouldn't have to blitz 3+ to create pressure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sslDB7OXUpc 1:27- look at the rip move to get to the QB, @ 1:50 he pulls another move to get by the blocker, @ 1:55 look at that burst off the line, another move to get a sack @ 2:08,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AcNSHVWYM4

David: First thing that comes to my mind is that he is a very smart player. He can read routes and is outstanding in coverage. He wouldn't necessarily help with the pass rush but he was even covering slot receivers he was that fast. I think that he is am option here because of the fact that he could probably keep up with Gronkowski. Catch is he may not be tall enough only being at 6'1. But he could turn out to be great in run support as well... However I think it would make more sense if he was used as an ILB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnFkMJ1Rbwg&feature=related

Irvin: I know a few guys on this site really like him, but he looks too small. I could maybe see him being an Aaron Maybin kind of player but not a player who is a 3 down LB. And his only pass rushing move is blowing outside and then quickly cutting in past the blocker. In my opinion an OT will easily pick up on that and keep forcing him to the outside making him innefective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu4fc_e584s

Now that I've told you why those players could be in the places that I believe the FO would put them here is how I think things go down. (Note: I will only explain questionable picks)

1.Colts: Luck 2.Rams: OT Matt Kalil USC (Rams will go after a WR hard in FA and they need to protect Bradford) 3. (TRADE WASH-MINN) Wash- QB Robert Griffin lll (Perfect Shannahan QB) 4. CLE- WR Justin Blackmon 5. TB- CB Morris Clairborne 6. MIN- OT Riley Reiff 7. JAX- ILB Luke Kuelchy 8. MIA- OT Jonathon Martin 9. CAR- OG David DeCastro 10. BUF- OLB Courtney Upshaw ( imo there could be a chance of Mercilus here as well) 11. KC- DE Devon Still 12. SEA- DE/OLB Whitney Mercilus 13. ARI- C Peter Konz 14. DAL- CB Dre Kirkpatrick 15. PHI- ILB Dont'a Hightower

16th pick NYJ- WR Alshon Jeffery SCU

Toss up between Richardson and Jeffery but Sanchez absolutely must have a deep field threat to open up Santonio.

Poll
If the draft fell like this who would you want at #16?
RB- Trent Richardson
237 votes
WR- Alshon Jeffery
100 votes
Trade down (explain for who)
70 votes
Not mentioned (who would you want?)
84 votes

491 votes | Poll has closed

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I would love if we got Trent, dude is going to be special. People forget that he averaged 6 yards per carry in an offense that was basically all him (i.e. the main key for the defense is EVERY game) and he played against the best competition in college football. Dude has great hands, never fumbles, is elusive in tight spaces, and blasts through contact. AND… he’s a beast in the weight room. He turn a negative play into a positive one, he can turn a routine 3 yard gain into a 20 yard run, and he can get out into the open field and make plays in the passing game. Dude is a nearly perfect prospect in every sense.

And I would LOVE to nab Bruce Irvin. Dude played out of position as a DE in a 3-man front. He had no business being in that spot. Put him out at OLB where has the space to use his athleticism and to get leverage and he’ll be impossible to handle. Dude is EXPLOSIVE, and he plays with violence. He’s raw but he’s got first round talent. And he scraped himself up from nothing to get to the pros (got his GED, and went to JUCO, before playing himself onto WVU). He hails from a rough background and willed himself to the NFL. Gimme all those gritty, freakishly athletic guys you can find.

by Crackback on Jan 24, 2012 7:45 AM EST reply actions  

FYI, Irvin is reported to weigh 245 (same as you listed for Curry).

by Crackback on Jan 24, 2012 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Also FYI, Curry weighed in at 265 atthe Senior Bowl.

by Crackback on Jan 24, 2012 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

There's no way he's playing at 245

That guy has absolutely no bulk to his frame. Great college football player, great athlete, but not a guy that projects better than a situational pass rusher IMO.

by J-Nasty on Jan 24, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

James Harrison weighs 240.

And this kid has been doing battle as, basically, a 34 DE. Put him on the edge with some space, and give him a DE in front of him for some coverage and he’ll be fine.

by Crackback on Jan 24, 2012 9:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Harrison is 6 feet tall

There’s really no comparison. Harrison is much more bulky and compact than Irvin.

And Irvin wasn’t doing battle as basically a 3-4 DE for his entire junior year and after the first 5 games this year because WVU used him as a situational pass rusher.

Maybe I’m wrong and he’ll be a poor man’s Von Miller but Von Millers are the exception moreso than the rule and Miller was a much better college player. Irvin’s a great athlete, Miller is a freak of nature.

by J-Nasty on Jan 24, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

He was used on a 3 man front, but not in a 34 defense.

West Virginia uses a 3-3-5 defense. At least one OLB is blitzing about 90 percent of the time. Practically a standing up defensive end on every play. Irvin cannot defend the run for his life, even if they were running straight at him. He also chose not to attend the Senior Bowl which will lower his stock since those who are attending will rise above him. I’m seeing him as a 4th rounder come April.

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 24, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly, its even worse.

They use LB-Safety hybrids, which means he’s even more exposed than he would be in a 34. He had no leverage and nobody to eat up blockers for him. Calvin Pace would struggle matched up with tackles if had to get down on the line in a 3-man front. And Pace is about 30 lbs heavier and is pretty good at setting the edge. Of course Irvin is going to struggle in a phone booth with a much bigger man and facing double-teams.

Give the man Devito in front of him, and give him some space to use his athleticism and he’ll be dynamite.

by Crackback on Jan 25, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

i like your rational with regards to the way you approached this mock

jeffery and richardson are the BPA at 16 so your spot on there . maybe someone like Perry could climb up the board and become great value at 16 but at the moment i think your evaluation is spot on .
Curry would be a great pick in the 2nd and would be a great fit for this team . i’m not a big fan of david or toon in the 2nd .

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by tinley24 on Jan 24, 2012 8:10 AM EST reply actions  

I would feel fortunate to Jeffery or Richardson.

They both had their respective offense ran through them and Jeffery is used to playing with a mediocre QB so if people’s worst fears about Sanchez are realized we’ll have a WR better suited to the situation then Holmes seemed to be last year. Sparano has also had experience with such a QB/WR combo with Henne/Marshall.

by Timmaht on Jan 24, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

If the draft turns out this way, I probably nab Richardson

WR is a bigger need, but you just don’t pass up on a talent like him. If both Upshaw and Mercilus are gone in the first then I’m a fan of going offense and hoping Curry falls to us in the second and getting another pass rusher (Irvin) later.

Realistically though Richardson will probably be gone before we pick, as well as Upshaw and Mercilus, so idk :(

by Exystence on Jan 24, 2012 8:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Also who in the world calls Richardson small?

Like maybe he’s “short”, but the dude is nearly 230 lbs and probably will be by draft time and places him among the bigger HBs in the NFL. Plus you want your RBs to be low to the ground, leverage and all that. Look at Brandon Jacobs. Adrian Peterson is the exception rather than the rule here.

by Exystence on Jan 24, 2012 8:39 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'd be stunned if Blackmon is available... i'd snatch him up on the spot.

Alshon can be a beast and he was plagued by poor QB play at SCU. I still want a pass rusher, but if the jets don’t like whats there… i’ll be interested in what they do.

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by jets4life24 on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

If Trent Richardson lands in are lap you have to get him

Greene and Richardson together would be crazy!!!! We can pick up everything else later

by bllackkman on Jan 24, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

I'd rather go D

Unless Richardson is available (and I highly doubt it) I would like to see the jets go with a pass rusher. In fact I would not even mind them getting two in the first two rounds, as long as they get at least one safety and O lineman in free agency. Then start targeting WRs in the third and beyond. I would love to take Toon in the third.

by RichTodd on Jan 24, 2012 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

I wouldn’t mind double dipping in the first two rounds ONLY if the two are Upshaw and Curry.. Oh and Toon may not make it to the middle of the third.

by Buddy James on Jan 24, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

He suffered an injury right before the Senior Bowl.

That could lower his stock by 10-20 spots.

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Richardson will not be there @ 16

WR Floyd or S Barron are more realistic picks.

by NYCKW2 on Jan 24, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

not true, he's actually fallen in mocks to the Bengals.

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 24, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Barron isn't as good as he's cracked up to be

everyone has us drafting him but look at the film. He got exploited all the time. Not a great cover safety imo… Floyd is vastly overrated. watch youtube highlights and you can see the difference between Floyd and Jeffery.

by Buddy James on Jan 24, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

nick perry

This kid is goin to be a beast and if he is for whatever reason still avilable I don’t know 2hy the jets would pass on him

by Nu York Fan on Jan 24, 2012 1:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I also forgot to mention

how I did what I believe to be the front office’s top 5. Not what I necessarily want but based off of what I think the Jets will be looking for. I haven’t seen a good quality video on Perry but it appears as though he has no pass rush moves to get past the defender…versatile, sure but doesn’t appear to be the kind of player that Rex looks for. Wilkerson is a big bodied mand with long arms. If we are going off the two past drafts I think that Rex values bigger guys. That is another reason why Vinny Curry makes sense for the Jets..

by Buddy James on Jan 24, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEOAnxyOrYo

He beats his mguy on about every snap to say he has no pass rushing moves is a little much and at that every snap he lines up against 1st round LT prospect Jonathan Martin just watch perry # 8 consistently pressure luck

by Nu York Fan on Jan 25, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that the way you have the draft go is highly likely to be the actual draft. I don’t see the Rams trading down, they need to protect Bradford, and unfortunately I think Buffalo will take Upshaw, of whom I really want.

That would leave our New York Jets with several options, all which you addressed. I still don’t see us taking a WR in the first round, I think we can address that in the later rounds, especially with Nick Toon.
I would love to get Richardson, but I don’t think he will fall that far, plus if he does, I’m sure that Cincy would trade up for him, because he would give them a really volatile offense.
I think the best way to go is to get a pass rusher, but then again, Safety is a glaring issue. The more I think about it, I would love to draft Baron if he is the BPA. He would in fact offer a great player at the position. Plus for plays that the pass rush isn’t successful, he would offer insurance there.

Does anybody else think that Tanny might pull off a trade for a second first rounder?
I’m sure that he could package Bart Scott (I’m only saying this because of rumors of cutting him. Don’t get me wrong, I love Scott a lot) and a few other players and maybe a third round pick in order to get another first rounder. I’m sure that Cleveland would be open to trading their second pick if they don’t package it for RG3. This way we could get Mark Baron, and get a pass rusher in the first. Or even we could trade up early in the second if somebody is still there… Just my thoughts on it….

by NJGuy on Jan 24, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

He might be able to incorporate Bart Scott into a deal.

It would be cool if we went with Trent or Upshaw with 16, and then traded up and took Barron or Nick Perry. How sick would it be if we got Upshaw AND Perry??!!

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 24, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Barron is NOT that good

IMO, not only would he be the best BPA at #16, but if he fell to the Jets’ pick in the 2nd round, I don’t think he’d be the BPA. IMO, he isn’t even the best safety in the draft. If he didn’t play for Alabama, I don’t think he would have been rated so highly.

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by joeklecko on Jan 24, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

If we get Chad Henne someone just shoot me. I wouldn’t mind Kyle Orton because I always actually liked the guy and think that Denver should have stuck with him over Tebow and I still think he was indeed the better choice over Quinn. I do think Orton will push Sanchez however I’ll say it in every single Draft post if i have to.. i want people to keep an eye on Kellen Moore out of BSU. Kid is awesome in my book. He’s got every bit of confidence in me that Sanchez doesn’t have. I’d pick him over any QB prospect we have going into 2012… except Manning which I don’t think is wise (unless the dolphins are gunning for him.. then i might have to make a run at him).

I think Jim Leonhard should be in the next Nike "Boom" Commercial or at least the next time he makes one of those tackles he needs to jump up with a can of Kool-Aid and shout "Oh yeah".

by Tamarack on Jan 24, 2012 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

The odds

of Richardson being available at 16 are very likely…..Look at the 15 teams before us…. None have an absolute need at RB except INDY but they are going Luck, STL has Jackson, MIN-AP, CLE is the only team that could take him, however they have so many other needs and another first round pick, I just don’t see them doing it. Bucs- no Blount has shown too much potential, but outside of Cleveland and Tampa Bay, it wouldn’t make sense for him to be drafted elsewhere… Everyone said last year that Mark Ingram a 2x Heisman winner would be top 10 last year and he dropped all the way down to the 20’s. RB’s are looked for in later rounds we will have just picked the right year to suck and have him fall to us.

by Buddy James on Jan 24, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

Ingram only won the Heisman 1x....

Tebow – Bradford – Ingram – Newton – RG3

That being said Richardson is a much better prospect than Ingram was

by Brian_W on Jan 24, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

oh

thanks for the correction. agreed on how he is a better prospect but I have a tough time seeing someone take him when they have so many other needs and already have viable rb’s… we don’t have too many needs (OT which I think will be addressed in FA, OLB see Vinny Curry, safety also FAgency). We also don’t have a game changing back. If Richardson drops to us I could see us pulling the trigger. I think it is a coin flip if Jeffery drops to us as well.

by Buddy James on Jan 24, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll give it a rec

Mocking isn’t my thing personally speaking, but you did a good job here.

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by Bro Namath on Jan 24, 2012 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

did hell freeze over lol

admit it bro , your and undercover mock fan

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by tinley24 on Jan 24, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

well

I think it comes down to CLE and TB. Those two teams have other big holes they need to fill..the only legitmate threat at taking him is CLE and that is because they have the 4th pick. They ranked 28th offrush yards, 24th passing yards, 30th in rush yards against. TB- needs a center, an OT, they need ILB’s, not to mention a CB with Aqib Talib going to prison and Ronde Barber possibly retiring.

by Buddy James on Jan 24, 2012 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

Cleveland, Tampa, Washington, KC, Seattle (if Lynch leaves), and Cincinnati are all threats to take him

Since Cincy has 2 firsts, they might be more willing to give up picks to move up and secure their guy.

by J-Nasty on Jan 24, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

It's a very, very deep running back class.

It would be much smarter for them to use their first pick on a guy like David DeCastro and then use that second pick on Lamar Miller, Doug Martin, or David Wilson – whoever is considered the second best running back by April.

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 24, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

They are a playoff team with 2 first rounders

That’s like playing with house money. They are in a perfect spot to nab a luxury pick.

It comes down to what they think of Richardson as a player, but if you truly believe he’s going to be elite, and not any of the other backs in the draft, why not?

by J-Nasty on Jan 24, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

In this day and age, it seems impossible that a team would trade 2 first rounder for a running back.

The value on them is so low and they are being used in committees so often that their value is minuscule. Of course you get guys like Trent Richardson who can almost guarantee you a 1300 yard season every season and he’s clearly the best RB prospect since AP. I still can’t see a team giving up two first rounders for one though, no matter who it is.

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 24, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently alshon jeffrey has bust potential

He may apparently be too big to separate from NFL corners, kinda like Mike Williams, the USC guy. I wouldn’t wanna take a chance on him. Also, Michael Floyd is apparently a bum, but i’m not sure about that.

by darshv3 on Jan 24, 2012 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

jeffery has stud written all over him

he will be the best wr from this year’s class and last years .

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by tinley24 on Jan 24, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Williams had stud written all over him too

And he turned out to be a huge bust.

They both have the same concerns … seperation at the line of scrimmage.

by kernowjet on Jan 24, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Trade down to late 1st/ early 2nd

Look for Nick Perry or Vinny Curry. If neither is available than take Brandon Jenkins from Florida State and sign John Abraham in free agency along with Maybin. That gives you 3 pass rushers next season to go with Pace.

by manuvsteal on Jan 24, 2012 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

Trade down

R1 (Late 20s) Mohammed Sanu WR
R2 Vinny Curry OLB
R2 (extra) a RT like Levy Adcock, Bobbie Massie or Matt Reyolds
R3 Trumaine Johnson FS

All our immediate needs addressed, likely with the BPA at each point too, and allows Day3 to be used on depth and those that surprisingly fall

by kernowjet on Jan 24, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

nick perry might sky rocket into the top 20...

He’s in mike mayock’s top 5 for DE’s. Melvin Ingram and whitney mercilus were in his top 5 DE list as well both higher than perry….. Upshaw and barron were the best at their positions in his rankings.

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by jets4life24 on Jan 24, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

David DeCastro in the first round

by HitmanHarris on Jan 24, 2012 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

If the Jets Pick DeCastro at #16

or if they even trade down and still take him as their first pick, I may drive to NJ and kick Tanny’s ass. That would be colossally stupid, imo.

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by joeklecko on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

You can do much worse than getting DeCastro

Sure, Moore is a great player and Slauson has developed into a quality starter… but lining up the next Steve Hutchinson between Brick and Mangold is something I will sign up for 10 times out of 10.

by J-Nasty on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I Don't Dispute

that he’s a stud, but #16 is WAY too high to draft an OG. IMO the difference between the OG you take that high and another good OG taken in a later round is not as big as between the quality of play between a playmaker you take at #16 and one taken in a later round, unless you totally miss on the player at #16.

When you have glaring needs and there are topflight, high-rated prospects rated that fit those needs and you ignore those to take a player who probably is no better than they are, and who plays a position that isn’t an immediate need, that is nuts. That’s falling “in love” with a player and there’s no surer way to wreck your team. Falling in love with players is a prescription for disaster.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Alexander Tyler

by joeklecko on Jan 25, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Decastro is a stud but where are you gana play him? you gana cut moore? or bench slausen when hes starting to get pretty damn good?

by jetsmets65 on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Mike mayock is garbage

I don’t like any of the NFL.com experts. I don’t think they know crap. McShay and kiper are the two best IMO

by Buddy James on Jan 24, 2012 10:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'm With Crack and jets!

you’re off on this one imo. Mayock is the most knowledgeable guy out there. He’s thorough and uses his own eyes. Kiper has been wrong much more than right and often sounds like he’s using other people’s reports/ideas rather than his own. McShay is just a wanna be.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Alexander Tyler

by joeklecko on Jan 25, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i wouldnt mind seeing Jeffrey

in the 1st and hoping barron drops to us in the second. if he doesnt take Curry

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by jetstothesb on Jan 24, 2012 10:48 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting Read - rec'd (Even if it is early) LOL

and good analysis. I pretty much agree with your comments regarding FAs.

I don’t agree with you on all the draft prospects based on the footage shown, but it’s hard to judge on such limited viewing, and I haven’t watched as much college football this year as I normally do. I also rarely agree with anyone on everything (including myself! LOL). You do offer good rationale behind your choices.

I’m not convinced that Curry is the best OLB prospect in the draft, but I’m not saying that he’s definitely not, at least not yet. I do think the teams you listed could quite easily take OLBs ahead of the Jets. and leave them screwed yet again. If that were to happen, I suppose both Richardson and Jeffrey could fall. If that were the case, I think I’d want Jeffrey between the two, but also would be up for a trade down as long as Tanny took excellent prospects with both the picks they got in exchange for the #16 pick. I’m just not sold on Richardson, but I’ve only seen him play a couple of times. I need to see more footage and do more reading/analysis of him.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Alexander Tyler

by joeklecko on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

Richardson is an absolute stud

Arguably the best RB talent to come out of the league in the last 5 years. If he is there when we are on the board we better take him. I’d rather sign a FA WR like Braylon, Colston etc than take Jeffrey or Floyd

I think we could still get a very good OLB in rd 2

by FlightBoy83 on Jan 25, 2012 3:26 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Prospects

If Trent Richardson is available @ 16, it’s a no brainer. You draft him.

by boblivius on Jan 25, 2012 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

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