A Positive Spin on a Negative Day.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 23, 2012 12:06 AM EST
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PrintOn a day where it seems the world (and possibly God) has conspired to hand the Jet fans another heartbreaking moment, its hard to stay positive. So that's what were going to attempt to do, whether we admit it or not. After the jump, attempts at humor, grace, and positivity will be posted.
Why should we be positive right now?
Simple: Over the long term the Jets are going to get better. In a league that is dominated by a few teams and many fail to achieve anything but mediocrity year after year, the Jets have the pieces to continue a prolonged success. No one would call this season a success, unless they need serious help that GGN cannot provide. However, there were positives. Red Zone offense, a new found weapon in Joe Mcknight, and another unworldly year from a man who has an Island named after him are just the few that stick out. Did we have low points, yes, undoubtedly. Long term: it will be ok.
Want stats to back it up?:
Since the merger the Jets have had one period when we went 3 straight years with a .500 record or better. (For the record were currently on season 4 of that streak) That was from 1997 (8-8) until 2002 (8-8). close to 50 years and we've only had this happen once before. Should we be happy? Debatable, but it does offer a glimmer of how spoiled our fanbase has become since Mike T has come and brought on Rex. Personally speaking, I believe that in the NFL we are the team that half the teams would want to be, big market, passionate fans, and 4 straight seasons where playoffs were not just a dream but expected. Take for instance, Detroit where they have not gotten into the playoffs in a decade, or the (S)aints, where a bag over your head was considered routine.
So where does this lead us, as we head to two of the longest weeks of our lives heading up to the Superbowl? On the outside looking in? Yes. Without any hope? No. For the next two weeks, I propose a thought: Find the positives with the Jets and keep that in your mind. Keep the thought of us adding to those next year. As we've seen in the last few years: A wild card can win the Superbowl, a 7-9 team can beat the defending champion, and oh yeah we can make it far into the playoffs. A Jets team making an improbable run deep into the playoffs next year is certainly within our grasp, and is probably expected.
As for the Superbowl, both teams earned it. Both teams got luck, but also took advantage of it to win their games. This is not a dig on those teams, but a look at what we hope we can accomplish next year given a chance. WIll I be watching, yes. It's because I will be hoping it's us there next year, fresh off our mistakes this year, ready to take on challenges.
As for those who think this is the absolute worst, I've found the picture that describes exactly what it feels like right now to most of us.
Once again though short term pain will lead us to savor the long term gain even more. Whenever we do win a Superbowl, it will be that much more awesome knowing we had to go through a time like this.
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good post man
we’ll only grow stronger from this
Exactly what I said to my parents and everybody else
And they laughed.
Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
by jets4life24 on Jan 23, 2012 12:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
be glad.
every season of every team my mom says pick new teams.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 23, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you so much for writing this.
It made look upon the good moments we had this season
Good stuff.
This team has a great core of young talent and I think with some minor changes it’ll only get better. of course watching the giants win their conference 364 days after we lost our game kills… We will only get stronger.
Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
by jets4life24 on Jan 23, 2012 12:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
the team should be even more motivated next year
even after the season we had with all the turmoil in the locker room we aren’t that far behind both SB teams . i expect us to be a lot better next season .
Revis needs to take a bigger leadership role next year . he is the best CB in the NFL and would demand the respect of everyone else on the team . wonder how Tone’s attitude would change if Revis shut him down in training every day ?
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a positive look
Maybe this season and this SB game will light a fire in the Jets organization on getting this team back to glory. Maybe this will motivate Rex and hopefully the team. If the Giants win, the mission of taking NYC back or if the Pats win finally knocking the Pats of its perch!!
bleed green and white
by greenandwhite4ever on Jan 23, 2012 7:26 AM EST reply actions
Woody
must be feeling great right about now. His weekend consisted of his guy Romney losing South Carolina and the two teams he cant stand reaching the super bowl.
The pressure on Rex for next year is through the roof. We all know how envious Woody is of both the patriots and giants so he will be chomping at the bit for next season. If this team doesnt make the playoffs I fully expect Rex and Tanny to be history.
Agree
We were humbled by both teams last year and to top it off one of them will be a Champion. I wonder if Woody in a privite meeting is tearing those two a new one?
bleed green and white
by greenandwhite4ever on Jan 23, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
The Giants are a weird, weird team.
it is not like they are the Patriots-a team that averages 12 wins a year and a playoff birth each year over the last decade. They won the SB in 2007 having not beaten a single team in the regular season that had more than 9 wins and this year they could be the first ever 9 win SB champ. Is that luck or something else? Hard to say-they do put these runs together were they look legit. They are the ultimate Jeckyll and Hyde team. Am I jealous? Sure.
What kills me about yesterday was that that the two Harbaugh teams should have won. Especially the Ravens. The beat the Pats in the boxscore, and had ample opportunity to beat the Pats at the end of the game. The 49ers basically lost because of a backup punt returner. Oh well-I will be rooting for the Giants but not too happy about it.
Weird maybe but they showed us the blueprint
Dont turn the ball over (especially from the QB position) with a little defence and leadership in the face of extreme adversity … and you can make magic.
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
The 49er dropped 2-3 ints
2 when they had players run into each other during sure picks. Luck helps too.
Definitely need luck
But his pocket presence deserves major credit because he didnt fumble it….. and as far as the almost INTs its not that bad in some of those situations because you give your WR’s a shot at catching it or maybe getting a flag, or the Defence gets the INT and then its like a punt basically , which was what the offence did anyway ….
Look its better than throwing an INT on a check down where the only offensive players that can make a tackle are the QB and the O-linemen and you get the pick 6 , or at the least the field position flips.
I really hate those…. better off chucking it down field instead of the fumble return for the game changing kiss of death touchdown.
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
My positive spin... Is the Giants.
IMO its time the Jets start showing love and respect to the Giants. How could jets want success or find one if it fails to acknowledge that Giants are indeed their big brother. Jets played in their stadium all these years and the Giants have won more championships and yet the poking continues. Maybe the football gods dont like it. I dont like it personally because I rep NYC first before anything else and find the in fighting absurd.
Rex came out this season to challenge the league to beat the Pats, a feat ganggreen failed to achieve but the Giants was one of the teams that heeded that call and beat the pats but what did they get from Ryan, the rivalry talk that serves no one any good. I expected a respect but a fight frim the Jets but instead, Jets showed no class even covering Giants superbowl memories with a black curtain. (So petty). Coz Jets and the Giants do not compete in the same conference. The two teams could coexist and some fans like myself root for both teams.
So in all I say congrats to my brother, the Giants and you guys gave me my first parade and I hope I get another chance to go wild on the streets of manhattan. Lets go Giants.
little bro
If that’s the case, the jets could pull some inspiration from eli, for he is obviously the little brother. If eli leads the giants to win the SB, he will pass the amount of superbowl wins peyton has.
by revis24fan on Jan 23, 2012 10:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That whole covering the SB stuff was silly, but it made sense
I wouldn’t have done it, but it was supposed to be a home game for the Jets. The Giants wouldn’t have been able to see those things on the wall and whatnot if they were playing any other game on the road. If it was up to me though I wouldn’t care, let them feel at home—we’ll beat their asses anyway (not that it happened that way, but you get my point). ::shrug::
Anyway, yeah props to the Giants for overcoming adversity this year with all the injuries and stuff. They’re built for the game as it’s played today—strong passing game on offense, strong pass rush on defense. That’s pretty much all you need nowadays. I wish the Jets had either.
by Exystence on Jan 23, 2012 10:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Eh whatever.
I think this possible option for our guys. They know they’re every bit as good as both these teams. They just have to put it together.
If these can’t come together and capture some magic after this season, and have a really good reg season next year, then they never will under Rex’s watch.
There’s no formula. You don’t need an elite QB. You don’t need an elite pass rush. You just need to be an elite TEAM and to get hot at the right time.
by Crackback on Jan 23, 2012 10:16 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Come on crackback
what games were you watching yesterday? To say you dont need an elite QB or an elite pass rush is way off base. Every one of those teams playing yesterday had at least one of those two factors working in their favor. The Patriots and giants both have elite QBs and the giants,niners and ravens all have elite pass rushes.
Bottom line is you better be elite on at least one side of the ball. The Jets are good but not great defensively with no pass rush whatsoever and we are way below average offensively. If the playoffs have shown us anything its that we desperately need a legit pass rush for our defense to be among the best. The Jets defense is pretty good but it pales in comparison to the teams we saw yesterday other than the patriots and they have Brady who covers up for their poor defense.
We must not ignore the need for pass rushers any longer. I am pretty certain that our offense will continue to suck so we better become elite defensively and we wont do that until we upgrade our pass rush. This is why I think its complete nonsense for people to talk about drafting WR or RB in the first round when we are going nowhere without a pass rush.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 23, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Brady played elite yesterday? The Pats have an elite pass rush?
Flacco outplayed Brady and the Ravens have a much better pass rush. What happened there?
Alex Smith is ever bit as deserving to be in the big game as Eli is. He made big time plays al game. The Giants didn’t win that game bc of Eli, they won bc of 2 muffed punts that led to 10 pts and bc of a very fortunate “non-fumble” call.
Getting to and winning the Superbowl is as much about magic as it is anything else. Whoever catches the most magic wins.
Brady’s elitism and the Pats’ pass rush didn’t make Cundiff hook it left or Evans drop a TD.
by Crackback on Jan 23, 2012 10:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Brady’s elitism and the Pats’ pass rush didn’t make Cundiff hook it left or Evans drop a TD
Don’t try to oversimplify the game. The reason those two teams are there and the reason the games were so close in the first place was because of Vince Wilfork, Eli Manning and the Ravens D.
Kyle Williams, Billy Cundiff and Lee Evans are only the tipping points in a very closely contested game and it should take nothing away from Eli and Vince.
My point
is that you better either have an elite QB or an elite pass rush to win championships. The point that I was making is that every one of those teams yesterday had at least one of those two things going for them. The Giants and Patriots both have elite QBs and the giants,ravens and niners all have elite pass rushes. I never said the pats have an elite pass rush.
As for Alex Smith he made a few big plays but otherwise sucked. I dont count 12-26 passing as having a big game. If sanchez played the same exact game as Smith did yesterday most people would be blaming him for the loss.
I think its obvious by now that the Jets will never be elite offensively with Rex as head coach so in order to win a championship we desperately need a big time pass rush.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 23, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
The Jets weren't as good as any team that played yesterday
Period end of story. Hopefully, with a good offseason, free agent acquisitions and a solid draft we can be up at the top again. We were a mediocre team as our record showed.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 23, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
I was 10 in 1986 when the Mets won the world series.
Since then, none of my big three favorite teams have won a championship (Mets, Jets, Islanders). Only the Mets have made it to the “finals” before losing.
That’s a lot of years of SUCK.
Every time I beat myself up over how my neighbors / friends / family members enjoy championships on a whim, I think about three things:
1. Sports are entertainment, not life
2. My sons (who will hopefully enjoy more sports fan success then I will) and I will get to spend time together watching the games, no matter who wins / loses. And as long as I instill in them the values that sports is about believing in something and enjoying yourself, not getting all caught up in the moment, things will be ok.
3. Being a fan of a losing franchise is hard work, it’s not for the weak of heart. I’m proud that no matter what happens, the only way you can get my jets jersey off of me is off of my cold, dead body.
Thank you for the post, sportsfan….and enjoy the Super Bowl everyone (cause it’s just a game!)
And thanks to all who make this site awesome. Go Jets 2012!
Being born in New York and rooting for the Islanders, Jets, and Mets. Yeah, I know.
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by CharlieIsles on Jan 23, 2012 10:20 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
I hear you
I was about the same age in 1969. First football game I remember watching on TV was SB III. If it weren’t for ‘86 and the Mets, I’d be exactly like you.
Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.
Thanks to you for the awesome comment
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"Chrebet is magic!"
by NYJALLFINGDAY on Jan 23, 2012 10:33 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Fail. Y'all gonna have to copy-paste that.
"Chrebet is magic!"
by NYJALLFINGDAY on Jan 23, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
that tweet was really
unnecessary
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by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 23, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
They are classless
its funny but everytime the Jets talk the media rips the team apart but when the giants act like jackasses they are just showing their confidence. As much as I hate to do it I will hope the patriots win the game even though I refuse to watch it.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 23, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Precisely to both posts
Pat Hanlon (who probably composed this tweet) has the mental maturity of a five year old. I’m really hoping Brady grinds them into paste.
"Chrebet is magic!"
by NYJALLFINGDAY on Jan 23, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I'll be pulling for the Pats
And for their asshole coach and QB to run up the score.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
O_O
#WinItFourMyra
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by 808BostonSportsFan on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
I can't believe this is from an organization's official twitter account. Shocking.
#WinItFourMyra
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by 808BostonSportsFan on Jan 24, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
It's about talent and depth
The Jets lack of both killed them this year, as did their lack of locker room leadership. I’m sure they’re plenty motivated as it is.
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RESTORE 44!
by kotite4ever on Jan 23, 2012 11:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions
You want a bright spot from this year????
Schottenheimer is no longer calling the plays for this team. That’s about as positive as it gets. Right now, i would rather be the Ravens, or Niners than the Rams.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
i'm pretty sure anyone would be with or without schotty
the ravens basically have schotty’s mentor anyway
What i'm saying is
I would rather lose like the Ravens and Niners did, knowing that next year is still going to be good as all the pieces are in place and can expect to improve. The Rams won 2 games and appear to have gotten even worse. They have the DC from the Saints, a team that wins by scoring tons of points because their D is terrible. And the OC from the Jets, a team that wins by shutting down the other teams offense because their O couldn’t score.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
isn't that how we felt last year though?
but i guess we 1.overestimated the talent of some players on our roster and 2.underestimated the importance of braylon edwards (I want him back!).
Oh well, happens. The saints had an 8-8 and 7-9 season after Sean Payton’s first year, and look where they are now. Mike Mccarthy went 6-10 in 2008. We can do it!
True
I did expect our team to get better. What i never expected was the offensive approach to completely change from a relatively ballanced passing attack that regularly took shots down field to a dink and dunk slant and hook offense. I didn’t expect that because the year prior the offense actually improved drastically and finished the season 11th in the league. Now that the man, who i consider to be the “brains” behind the change in offensive philosophy, is gone, i expect this team to explode next year.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
explode in a good way?
I really hope so. And i really hope for some real pass rush. If you’re gonna run a 3-4, your outside backers need to get some pass rush.
Explode in a good way
Need to get Maybin resigned, and get him some bulk, and look for another pass rusher for the other side. And a safety or two. Bring back Braylon, and look for a RT. Will be nice to have Turner back. Only other thing i would like to see is a different QB coach.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Even when the Giants win
reporters and fans are talking about what Rex is thinking. The man is in their heads even when they should be on Cloud 9. (And for the record, I like the Giants too. I’m happy they won, I hope they beat the Pats, but I can’t ignore this.)
Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.
the entire football universe
hates the jets
its sooo hard to stay positive ....
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
Nobody hates the Jets, last two years made the jets relevant. Before they travelled out to indianapolis and pittsburgh during their championship run. Did you go to Times Sq? I went to the rallys and I was stunned at the huge turnout, support the Jets received.
People like to make it seem like the Jets are some blemished sheep. Not so bruh.
by overloadblitz on Jan 23, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
"Nobody hates the Jets"
Bull, the media openly hates the Jets and there is a blatant double standard in regards to coverage of the Giants vs coverage of the Jets
ESPN, Mike Francesa, NY Post, NY Daily News, Fox Sports = Propaganda
Blue and Orange, Green and White, Red and Black
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by BlueChill on Jan 23, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not all the media
For the last 2 years, 90% of the media was loving the Jets. The only ones that weren’t were Mike Francessa and his other Giant loving buddies.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Good. I'm glad that they hate the Jets
Nobody hates a loser.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
See coverage of the Mets
/argument
ESPN, Mike Francesa, NY Post, NY Daily News, Fox Sports = Propaganda
Blue and Orange, Green and White, Red and Black
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by BlueChill on Jan 23, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As a mets fan
I can say that nobody really gives a crap about the Mets. the phillies and Yankee fans saying the Mets suck has nothing to do with hatred, but rather an observation. People do HATE the Yankees.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Rex really really really pissed off quite a few people.
It’s cool though. Makes it more fun when we punch them in the mouth. Faux classy teams in the NFL piss me off, I like that we’re up front about it.
"Chrebet is magic!"
by NYJALLFINGDAY on Jan 23, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Shaun Ellis
I guess one of the positives is Shaun Ellis finally being able to reach the Super Bowl with a winning team at the end of his career instead of having to endure an other dissapointing season with the JETS and our stupid J-E-T-S chant. Im so angry, there is nothing anybody can do or say to make me feel better but winning a super bowl. I have waited to long………..
SMH
The only good thing about the worst Superbowl Matchup for a Jets fan that we had to endure twice in 5 years is that this will definitely Piss off Rex Ryan. It will hit him hard seeing these two teams play for a Championship being little brothers in Division and in City/Stadium.
I agree
I have been hoping for that, the other thing is that we need consistancy. I might take us three or four more years to get to the Super Bowl. There is no quick fix, I dont want to hear anything about Payton Manning comming to the JETS. We did that 4 years ago with Farve and it didnt work, we need to draft good players and develop them and let the Rex Ryan process take place. you cant buy a championchip in the NFL as you do in baseball
I need to
take a flight to vegas and place a bet. The odds makers have the Pats a 3 and a half point favorite in the SB. I would have thought that the Giants would have been a 6 point favorite. Eli will rip apart their secondary. The Giants will win the SB, 38-27. The Giants D-line will have Brady on his ass all game. The Giants would have to turn the ball over 4 times to make it a close game.
I was thinking the other way around.
SF isn’t exactly a high powered offense, and yet, if Smith was more accurate on the long ball, he would have had 3 long TD’s in the first half. And the Pats are playing for Kraft’s wife, who from all that’s been written about her, was one step below mother teresa.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
The Pats
could not stop a high school team from scoring. Giants will score over 30 points.
Well.....
The Pats actually gave up fewer points per game than the Giants. And the Giants “high powered” offense scored 1 more point per game than the anemic Jets Offense.
So, in conclusion… If the Pats couldn’t stop a high school team from scoring, the Giants couldn’t stop a powder puff squad from scoring.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Would it be funny if
Scotty turns the Rams offense around and they compete in the NFC west? OR, would it be funny if Sparano can not improve the Jets offense? Can not wait until the start of the 2012 season.
I don't find your comments funny at all
The F__K thing about it, is, it can happen.
I would be less suprised if the world actually ends on 12/21/2012
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
by jetsbill on Jan 23, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Over the long term the Jets are going to get better."
The only issue I have with this sentence is that we’ve been telling ourselves that FOR YEARS now—how much longer should we have to wait? Going to 2 AFC Title games in a row actually made this season feel worse than the year they went 1-15—because the SB was dangled in front of us and then snatched away in the cruelest way possible. I want to see them in the SB next year—I’m sick of waiting for them to get better “over the long term”!
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