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This thing is like an onion: the more layers you peel, the more it stinks! -George Costanza

The further we are removed from today's ridiculous press conference, the more infuriating it is. Earlier today, I went over the three possibilities for the team keeping Brian Schottenheimer. Either the team really wants to keep him, they are just being nice to try and help him get a head coaching job, or the team is hoping to not have to pay his salary. Under none of these circumstances will this team come out looking good.

If the first scenario is true, this regime will just never get it. If a season where a putrid offense and a prized quarterback's development stopping does not convince the Jets Schottenheimer is the wrong man for the job, nothing will. The goal is to win a Super Bowl, not to try and win a Super Bowl with Brian Schottenheimer.

The second would be just as infuriating. The New York Jets do not exist to advance Brian Schottenheimer's career. Schottenheimer has been paid handsomely for poor results. Let's say for a second it is true, though. There was zero reason to have this press conference. Do you think the Jaguars or any other team is going to base its decision on words Mike Tannenbaum says in a press conference? Are we seriously to believe that is a deciding factor? If we can figure out how transparent this is, don't you think an NFL front office is going to be able to do that? All this press conference served to do in this case is infuriate a loyal fanbase. The Jets could have just stayed quiet until Jacksonville made a decision.

The third would just be cheap. The NFL's salary cap is $120 million. The Jets rip fans off with ridiculous ticket price increases and absurd PSL's. The team is seriously going to claim it needs to pinch pennies over a coordinator's salary? Nobody thought the coordinator even deserved that contract anyway.

That's plenty of ammo against this ridiculous press conference even before we get to Rex Ryan addressing Santonio Holmes' behavior by claiming that naming any captains in general was a mistake. No, making a diva malcontent receiver a captain was a mistake. Are we having this discussion if LaDainian Tomlinson was a captain?

Only a team that employs a guy in public relations like Jared Winley, who allegedly helped create the Jenn Sterger and Inez Sainz controversies, could pull off such a needless PR fiasco. It is amazing how quickly an NFL franchise can go from well-run to a disaster.

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Could it have just been a regular conference, like weekly?

And we overhyped it cause Mr. T was there?

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 2, 2012 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

It was supposed to be Rex’s end of season presser around noon. Then an announcement was made that Mike T would be joining him and it was moved back to 3pm. Then the internet was abuzz.

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by dvdvil on Jan 2, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 2, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

boob again, John

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 2, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Pathetic conference.

Mr.T and rex better have a busy offseason

by jets4life24 on Jan 2, 2012 10:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

JB...

seems like something is bothering you

by CervezaVerde on Jan 2, 2012 10:23 PM EST reply actions  

These guys are complete jackasses.

They’re so arrogant and so insecure. They’re arrogant in thinking that they’ll just hold a press conference and make this all go away. They believe their own hype. They’re weak and insecure for not taking the negatives head on. Holmes should be stripped of the “C”, stripping everybody is fucking stupid. Not firing Schotty is fucking weak. If u can’t be a man and fire the guy, u can’t hold the position ur in. Fuck him and his interview. He has a contract, he’ll get his money. Fuck that guy.

Here’s the thing jackasses… The offense sucks. It was either the QB or the OC. Pick one and ship him out. Sack up and lead. Don’t hold a press conference congratulating yourselves and AGAIN holding nobody accountable for ANYTHING.

“Hey everybody. This season sucked and we’re not changing anything. No more C’s and an offseason in Cortland and we’re good.”

by Crackback on Jan 2, 2012 10:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions   2 recs

It was either the QB or the OC.

Or both. But yes, you’re pretty much right.

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 2, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Accountability...

… The offense was the 25th(total) in the NFL. The offense has been sputtering along for seven seasons, using three different starting QB’s. The lack of coaching shows up in the form of turnovers, penalties and failure to utilize your talent properly(Kerley’s pass was one of two passes over 40 yds; He has an arm and we find out in week 17). It is “Schotty’s” job to ensure the team A) does not throw the ball 60 times in a game B) That his WR, who I thought would come up big against the ’Fin’s gets more than 1 target in a must win game(He figured S. Holmes would eventually erupt, taking the heat off himself ).
The best coach on the offensive side of the ball holds his men “Accountable”, B. Callahan should be promoted to O.C. and then the entire “Offense” will be held to those same standards. I have been saying this all year long. Change must be made at the O.C. position and the promoting of B. Callahan ensures the team does not lose it’s best offensive coach. The idea of replacing him at O.L. coach with Tony Sporano will work best with him as the O.C., the only way I support the idea of retaining Scotty is a demotion to Q.B. coach(and that would have to come from B.C.).

by BachsOfRain on Jan 3, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Preach Crackback!

btw, team fines were down this year. The Jets are really getting somewhere!

by ________key on Jan 3, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I whole heartedly agree ... well said!

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by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Enough of seeing this teams talent through rose colored glasses, I am sick of hearing how much talent we have and how good of a coach Schotty is.

by Chrebetfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

Schotty is out

This is just a game, as they try to get him a HC job. If this bothers you, the Jets don’t care. Schotty was in demand a few years ago, and he turned down a couple of head coaching jobs to stay. The Jets feel they owe him, and it’s no big deal.

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by rxmeister on Jan 2, 2012 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

I think they did it to calm the “Jets are firing Schotty” reports that went mainstream on Saturday/Sunday. Thinking he’s definitely somewhere else next season.

Also, people need to realize the Jets aren’t an internet message board. Management isn’t going to openly rip people to the NY media and they’re going to keep some things like discipline and their future plans internal. It’d be unprofessional and pretty ridiculous if that wasn’t the case.

Then again, if Schotty and/or Holmes are back next year, grab your pitchforks

by runngunn29 on Jan 2, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

and the reason for a big press conference was?

by ________key on Jan 3, 2012 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

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by John B on Jan 2, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose whatever causes you to immediately say in all caps what the blog runner just said would get you banned a week

is the same thing giving you the compulsion to come back and whine about it after you were banned for two days.

Best part is I could have just not bothered with the unban and I wouldn’t have to deal with you now.

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by Bro Namath on Jan 3, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Know what? Fire Rex.

He wants to go up there and vividly describe all the his absolute incompetence, then fuck him. You want to tie a noose around your neck, well here’s a steel-tipped boot in the ass off the chair fat man.

You didn’t have the pulse of thew team, you made a jackass the captain, you don’t recognize the gallactic incompetence of your OC, you have no idea that ur best WR (the guy u handpicked) isn’t in the game or why, you have no game-feel, and you’re a public bafoon.

Get ur shit and leave.

by Crackback on Jan 2, 2012 10:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Woody can't do that

Since he called Rex “brilliant” a week or two ago.

"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan

by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 2, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

There is a total lack of accountability for this team and it looks like the only way it will be addressed is after more losing seasons. Woody is not a smart owner by overly praising his HC after a mediocre season. If Rex was brilliant, we would be in the playoffs. Woody, Tanny, and Rex are all a part of why this team didn’t make it. Leadership comes from the top down.

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by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 3, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah the Santonio Holmes captain decision was a mistake that should've been seen a mile away

He’s far from a leader, and not as good as he thinks he is.

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by wilddre22 on Jan 2, 2012 11:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Tanny hand picked him...

If you remember he was bragging about it on hard knocks…

by RhodesRocks on Jan 2, 2012 11:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Eh. Tanny asked, Rex ejaculated, and so Tanny signed. Rex was a big part of that decision.

by Crackback on Jan 3, 2012 12:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I wondered whether Rex was an issue...

When he was publicly lusting after Nnamdi, who ignored Rex, and then when Todd Heap signed with Arizona while he was at the Jets’ facility.

Rex used to be able to woo vet free agents easily, now he’s down to getting dregs who are then malcontents (Bart Scott, Santonio Holmes).

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 2, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Who did "he used to woo" before Bart Scott?

Scott was his first free agent I think. And why is Scott a malcontent?

by CervezaVerde on Jan 2, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Flipping off reporters and threatening a photographer was what I heard.

"Get that out of my [bleeping] face," Scott said.

Apparently he’s not coming back, either: Bob Glauber says: “Source tells me Bart Scott won’t be back next season.”

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 2, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Mike T is usually the one credited for bringing in FAs

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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 2, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He was listed as one of the top coaches players wanted to play for.

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 2, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Nnamdi Asomugha, for one

And Todd Heap was at the Jets’ facility and chose to sign in Arizona… while still at the Jets facility. Odd.

It just seemed that a couple of years ago, NY was a hot destination for free agents, and this year it wasn’t at all.

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 2, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn't previously.

Rex could draw guys for lesser money with promises of playoff victories or whatever. Now, not so much.

And Nnamdi didn’t sign for as much as I thought he might, so I didn’t think money was quite as much a part as thought. “Dream Team” and all that…

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 2, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Rex could draw guys for lesser money with promises of playoff victories or whatever. Now, not so much.

Like who?

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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 2, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Ladanian Tomlinson.

Jason Taylor signed on because he wanted a Ring. Bart Scott was at market rate, maybe a little less (to play for Rex), and Jim Leonhard was on a team friendly deal.

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 2, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it was there before and I don't think its gone now

For most of Rex time here we have been under final 8 rules, final 4 rules, a lockout, etc. So he has never really had much opportunity to do anything.

by CervezaVerde on Jan 2, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Bart Scott and Leonhard both used to play under Rex directly in Baltimore unlike Todd Heap. And both were loyal to him because they both UDFAs and Rex gave them a shot. Scott also came close to resigning with Baltimore. Leonhard wasn’t very well known anyway, so I don’t know how much money he really would have gotten. The only one I can agree with you on is LT, Taylor really didn’t want to play for us but did anyways because he had no other suitors at the time.

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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 2, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

And LDT is a name for his past accomplishments but not a big FA signing.

This whole “Rex lures people” is just an ESPN thing. I haven’t seen it. Everyone that has signed with the Jets has signed for money.

by CervezaVerde on Jan 2, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He signed what he could under final-4 rules

But this year would’ve been his first chance to really hit free agency, and the free agents didn’t seem keen.

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 2, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Free Agency was a week long.

And they spent most of the week talking to Nnamdi. Rex hasn’t had a normal off season since before he coached a game with us. So he has really never gotten to make a pitch on reputation.

by CervezaVerde on Jan 2, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

LT?

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 2, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

well

nnamdi got a offer twice as big for the eagles. maybe it’s not as much as you thought, but it’s still twice more then what we offered

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by rexthejet on Jan 2, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

LT i believe

and plax said he came for the coaching, even though i think it was the money

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by rexthejet on Jan 2, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

he also came cause the Jets were interested in him pre-shooting.

and also supported him then as well, I think also while he was in and that to him said a lot about the organization.

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 3, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Free agents dont want to sign here

Because of the offence… offences are sexy and the game has evolved with rule changes so that offences get you to the superbowl I , personally still believe the defence wins it … but my points are…

Nnamdi -chose Philly because of the Head Coach, OC ,Qb combination, Andy and Vick not to mention the eagles can more easily win that division than us knocking of the pats ..

Todd Heap- maybe he thought because the Cards where just in a superbowl and almost won it, that Whisenhunt , K. Kolb ,Fitzgerald in that division with all other things being equal was a better opportunity ..

Our situation doesnt look pretty , especially now with all this dumb shit going on with the head guys but even if that didnt happen I dont think anybody in this league respect/fear Mark Sanchez & Schotty combo (Im not even going to count Rex in this because he doesnt even know whats going on on that side of the ball like I said yesterday)…

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by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 3:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Nnamdi chose Philly because they offered more money

plain and simple. And yea they sure won that division alright.

by PowerBar on Jan 3, 2012 4:56 AM EST up reply actions  

We offered him a pretty penny as well and why would he say because of Vick

and I can see that they didnt win the division but is there any doubt who is the best team in that division they stumbled out the gate with a horrific start and still almost won the damn thing … (no thanks to us not beating the giants and all)..
I wished we could’ve finished like the Eagles. Maybe we would be somewhere else instead of here bebating dumb shit.

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by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 5:15 AM EST up reply actions  

finished like the eagles?

they’re also not in the playoffs.

We offered him a pretty penny, and the Eagles offered him more. I’m pretty sure Vick has absolutely nothing to do with it. You want to make some outlandish speculation like that, provide some proof.

by PowerBar on Jan 3, 2012 5:38 AM EST up reply actions  

wow lmao.. so I guess I got nuttin better to do than make this up

here just for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=847R7JOTrqQ

or just go to youtube Eagles Press Conference: Nnamdi Asomugha

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by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 5:55 AM EST up reply actions  

About 2:49 if you dont got the time ...

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by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 5:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow.
You want to make some outlandish speculation like that, provide some proof.

Oops.

About 2:49 if you dont got the time …

by CervezaVerde on Jan 3, 2012 6:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Boom

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by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 6:16 AM EST up reply actions  

nice try

he didn’t come out and say he came here because of Vick. A reporter prompted him and asked him “how big of a draw was it to play with Michael Vick.” Then, he said “the rest of the talent here is the big draw, and that no one single player can control the team”.

Would you really expect him to say “no, I didn’t come here because of Vick, I came because they offered the most money”?.

This is just your run of the mill press conference. Close your eyes for the first 4 minutes and replace Vick with Revis and you’d think he had signed with the Jets.

So again, nice try. But it’s obvious he was going for the big contract.

by PowerBar on Jan 3, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

But at the end of the day (or begining of the day as fits here in EST)

No need to call people out for a source as if they are the New York Times. This is a poster on a blog on the internets. Take it with a grain of salt or ask nicely for a source. Its not that serious.

by CervezaVerde on Jan 3, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you even make sense ... He said Mike Vick is a big draw!

Whats all that other Revis stuff your talkin about ??
The guy said out of his mouth what I told you he said , you said you wanted proof. Then when I dig up this stupid ass press conference to prove the shit to you ,that he said it was Vick and the talent on the team NOT the money ,… you turn around and say some shit like this …
.[."Would you really expect him to say “no, I didnt come here because of Vick, I came because of money”? ]..

I didnt expect him to say nothing but what he said! …but I guess hearing it from him isnt good enough for you either?
Because you know what he wanted to say instead of what he actually said.. boy its some great non debates going aroud all of a sudden..

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by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

thank the good green gods somebody is up to witness this ..hehehe

I wouldve thought it was a lame dream or something

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by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

no we didn't

we offered half of what philly offerd. you heard that? half!

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by rexthejet on Jan 3, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont believe that at all.

Especially when we gave Antonio Cromartie more money than that (half).
Cromartie got 32mill 4years ,thats more than half of 60mill 5years … so in other words you telling me that we offered Cro more than we offered Nnamdi …. excuse me if I think the “best corner on the market” ,everyone agreed he was….
Would be offered less than our second choice on the market?
uh.
and I dont understand all this fuss over what money Nnamdi got anyway when my point was that no free agents are going to look at our offence like its appealing compared to others . Really looking like our swagg is off after all these dumb PR flops.
Now if you disagree with that, I could understand you coming at me , but thisNnamdi money is really minutia.

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by Benz Zito on Jan 4, 2012 5:01 AM EST up reply actions  

*more than the second choice*

Thats what I meant to say sorry.

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by Benz Zito on Jan 4, 2012 5:09 AM EST up reply actions  

damn it

we offerd nnamdi 3/30, which is 10 per year. we gave cro 8 mill per year for 4 years. so we offerd nnamdi 2 more mill per year the cro, and the eagles offerd a 5/60 contract, 12 per year.


and I dont understand all this fuss over what money Nnamdi got anyway when my point was that no free agents are going to look at our offence like its appealing compared to others

you said that the reason he didn’t come to us is that our O wasn’t appealing, when the fact is that he was offered a 5 year 60 mill when we offered him 3 year 30 mill. which would you take? the more years and more money per year or the less money for less years for a team who is not better (on paper) then the team that is offering more money?

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by rexthejet on Jan 4, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks for the insight

I respect your view its the better look to the inside of the numbers of the contracts … But I still dont believe free agents are looking at this offensive tandem of schotty and sanchez as better than most of the other situations you can get into out there(as far as carrying the team in championship rounds). Rex is suppose to be the guy that offset that , yea how thats looking right now . Hopefully by the time the free agent period starts we can save face.

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by Benz Zito on Jan 5, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott is a good leader though

Unlike Holmes

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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 2, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If Scott doesn't come back it would be because he doesn't want to.

Asked if the report that he would be gone by the start of next season was true, Scott said, "I don’t know why, I’ve got a guaranteed contract for $4 million."

by DesertJetFan on Jan 2, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

They won't keep him around solely to protect a (small) cap hit.

$4m isn’t even that much, as things go.

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 2, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott barely is on the field anymore

Apparently he is a little peeved about that.
4 million is a decent amount for a guy who barely plays

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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 2, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant in losing guaranteed cash

If it’s all guaranteed, he gets it whether he plays or he’s cut.

So if you cut him, you lose that cash irrespective… but if he’s barely playing you don’t lose the player, you just lose the cash. $4.2m isn’t that much to write off if you’re only going to get 20% of snaps out of him anyway.

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 2, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

and that will cost WOODY big Bucks

scott has a contract that is 100% guaranteed!! 4 Million!!!!!.thats why what He said while cleaning out His locker he doesnt CARE!!! He will be paid,BY JETS and what-ever team He goes with!!!!!

can Woody afford to do same with Holmes Contract,he is due a kool 7 plus million, plus if they cut Him then CAP will HIT Jets at 11 million!!! JETS are caught big time with these 2 player;s!!!!

But there has too be more to the Issue;s between Holmes and Sanchez!!!!..I mean ur #1 WR only see;s 1 pass the whole game?…talk about wasting $$$$$…

LT has no right;s to talk about one Quiting, go back to game He played in Div finals against NE, 1 play and He hurts His foot..BUT HIS QB played with a torn ACL!!!….LT just sat on bench with helmet on and never moved!!!! never stood along side-lines giving support to His Team-mates!!!!

was holmes right in chewing out HUNTER?.the same RT REX has faith in…

by Jack2466 on Jan 3, 2012 3:34 AM EST up reply actions  

actually Jack, if someone takes Scott's contract and gives him 4 million we are off the hook.

If someone takes him and offers him less we owe the difference so if he gets a 3mil contract from say the Pats we pay Bart a million.

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 3, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

See how many offensive FA come?

-Yeah totally agree, lets see the long list of offensive FA that are going to come with Sanchez and Schotty running things. They have jets west camp though, what a leader Mark is, not!!!!
-Also what a players coach Rex is, to woo Mason, and to only cut him 5 games later, and essentially kill his entire career. Plaxico has to be really happy as well, put terrible numbers up and killed his chances for a good contract playing with this terrible system.
-Also Bart has essentially bled and did everything for Rex on the field, and backed him up to the fullest, and now they are going to cut Bart. Stay classy, Rex. Way to be that players coach you have been talking about!!!!! Way to help Mark out by not calling out your OC!!!!! Way to support Mark, and everyone by keeping Schotty here!!!!!

-I commend Santonio for quitting, the guy is actually the only winner on the entire jets team having won a superbowl. He knows how to win, and he knows the offense sucks and no matter how long you stay in the facility or watch film, this system will never work. He is the only who gets it. Mark is a complete lemming, says the right things, could care less if the jets win or loose. Santonio actually cares. I completely agree if I was Santonio, it is madness to do the same thing over and over again, and expect different results. I mean why would you want to play for them, if it is the same plays.

-The Jets have essentially were close to being America’s team to the laughing stock. I have never seen such a complete and total turn around. For a couple million they could have kept ellis and woody.

-Also does anyone know why Jason Babin who was a FA couldn’t have fit with the Jets? Or Cullen Jenkins????

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I kinda don't think you're wrong. Its been bothering me since early in the season when he first spoke out.
He knows how to win, and he knows the offense sucks and no matter how long you stay in the facility or watch film, this system will never work. He is the only who gets it.

by CervezaVerde on Jan 3, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

Yeah I hate how Santonio is being killed. I would quit on my team if I had to sit here and listen to Mark and Brian talk about being a team player, when they themselves can’t do anything. The most consistent Jet on the offense the last two years has been Santonio. The best player on the offense for the last two years has been Santonio. Whatever effort you want to see he is putting he is getting it done. Wayne Hunter can say all he wants about Santonio and about him being a 10yr old, but he wins. What are you guys doing. Are you guys in the right shape. Keller practice catching the ball. Shonne Greene, learn how to run. Mark, get the ball out of your hands faster, and stop looking down recievers, watch film. I mean Santonio quit on a team and a system that kept doing the same thing over and over again.

Imagine working at a company where they would do the same thing over and over again year after year, and expect different results. I would go crazy. And then imagine if you were the one person doing your job, and all the other lazy people around you, are criticizing you.

Santonio is not the problem, and there are 31 teams I bet you who would love him. If he went to the Patriots, my god that would be scary. He is a faster version of Deon Branch.

Also I heard one year he led the league in yards per catch. So he obviously is a deep threat, when Ben is throwing it to him, where they actually run a more wild playbook.

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Santonio is not the problem, and there are 31 teams I bet you who would love him. If he went to the Patriots, my god that would be scary. He is a faster version of Deon Branch.

Hear that. He ain’t no ocho-cinco.

by ________key on Jan 3, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I was only kinda with you but...
The most consistent Jet on the offense the last two years has been Santonio.

…now I think you are on the man crush side of things.

by CervezaVerde on Jan 3, 2012 4:41 AM EST up reply actions  

If he's counting this year he's flat out wrong

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by Bro Namath on Jan 3, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Ive been looking for you

I really love that some of you guys are keeping it real on the S. Holmes situation because I believe he is a winner too.

The one thing I hate is someone on my team who isnt emotionally invested in the game especially when they lose a horrible game to a horrible team that they have no business losing to(Denver for example) ….Then turnaround and spit the company line out of there mouth after the game like these games dont really count for something towards our goals as Jets, who have not won anything in forever!
Taking the fans money who support you thru hard times and having no fuckin heart out there on the field and to keep saying some PR bullshit , its gutlessness and misguided
…. as far as Holmes he IS the best player on offence and he was tired of this fazing him out BS, like they did to him in the first half of the AFC championship last year against the Steelers , he was emotional then. Why?
He wants to win, he wants to help his team … he said that in the press conf. after the game , he said " we had an opportunity to make the playoffs and Santonio Holmes didnt make any plays to help his team today" .. why wouldnt you throw the ball to your best player? It doesnt make sense, ???
Then everybody wants you to start hustling when the fucking game is basically over . Ok I get it, you still supposed to act profesionally … but get real dude , If it was me I would be highly upset as well and my body language would have showed it .

You know what it seems like to me, what they where saying to Holmes in other words in the Jets huddle " We are here to collect our checks and go home and live our life with our pretty girls why you mad? Dont blow it up Santonio." .. lol
.. for some reason thats how I see it.

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by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 5:00 AM EST up reply actions  

well yes and no that He is the 1st too see it

I think when “J-cro” asked too be let go or traded was the 1st telling signs!!!!.I think he got out b/4 the crap hit the FAN so to speak!!!!

I also agree with Marty,Holmes at least had the Balls to speak out against certain players the SAME ONES a Head Coach failed to do…How many games did we see Holmes open and not a ball thrown HIS way? ..1 pass all day in Miami why?.was he right to call out Hunter, I say Yes seeing the Coaching staff never did!!!!!

REX said something in HIS Speech when player;s were there to clean out lockers, He basically was saying they need to come together as a TEAM and play as a TEAM, and not this Individual playing as was the case this season!!!!….

Day I read “J-Cro” wanted out told me there was LOCKER-ROOM Issues….nobody was in Charge..now we are seeing it come to a boil!!!!

by Jack2466 on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Marty, Eagles just signed flashy names and did it not for the talent but by the name.

They threw everyone they could together and said, make a superbowl happen. That wasn’t scouting or signing that was as close as real life Madden could have gotten.

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 3, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I agree about all that, but I was more talking about the fact that the eagles fans and team are not going to put up with the DC Castillo or whatever his name is. Eagles D was okay last year, and the addition of Cromartie, Jenkins, Babin, Nnamdi you should be slightly better. I think obviously falut goes on the players, but the OC is part of it and it looks like he is going to be fired.
But imagine if the eagles kept him and then the next year the eagles didn’t make the playoffs again or did okay, with the defense playing bad, and Michael Vick and the offense playing well. And then imagine they keep Castillo the next year after that. And then again the same thing defense plays bad, but offense wins, but it gets so crazy that they don’t make the playoffs at all and you see all this fighting between teammates. And then they decide to keep Castillo again, and not only that other teams want Castillo for a head coaching position. It would be insane, that is what the jets and the nfl are doing. This isn’t even funny. I mean I totally agree with John, this makes me angry and I hope other jets fans are angry. The protection of one random guy is destroying an entire league. This is the issue.

Why is Brian Schottenheimer being proteted so much? This is is 6 or 7 years, different players, different schemes, including a hall of fame QB, who was not injured!!!!!!!!! I mean they were bad last year. They had some games where they didn’t have a first down until the 4th quarter!!!!! Same thing this year. And you bring in consultants who help with scoring points and your an OC, and then you tell me that Brian is a good coach. And he is being looked at by other teams. I mean it is absolutely horrendous.

I really am going to watch the nba, at least there you have talented players playing, and coaches who deserve to coach. And no games are being played.

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

It also didn't help that DC Castillo was OL Castillo a season ago.

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 3, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice

Well said…… I dnt think the jets FO cares as much as the fans do, they just collect the money thts it.

by kle15 on Jan 3, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

It is alarming

How little Rex seems to know what is going on with the team, especially the offense. He even gave play calling duties to Pettine this year, so what exactly is he doing? Shouldn’t he have plenty of time to find the “pulse” of the team? He’s good at spitting out stats from the game at the press conferences, but I’m not sure what else he’s doing besides giving out high fives before games and crying after losses.

That said, I do like him and he got us to the afc championship 2 years in a row. I don’t think we’ll ever see a Belichick-like successful coach for the Jets in my lifetime, but Rex is ok and entertaining at least. Sad to say, although I am a fan for life, this franchise is somewhat of a joke…every time things look like they’re turning around we go back to SOJ.

by O-Insanity on Jan 3, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Add to that Crack. “We’ve got to ground and pound” turns into a 67 pass attack. Pulse THIS.

by ________key on Jan 3, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

But is that ALL on the OC? I think not!!!

Rex like everyother Head Coach,plans out a game-plan EACH week.sits down with HIS Cord>!! then the Player;s practise it, and a QB is watching films to understand how another teams DEF plays against certain looks!!!

now somewhere in this process things arnt being done right..are players truly putting in the work or just going thru motions?..there play on field has shown quite a few times they didnt practise well…

So for REX too come out after that 60 plus passing attempt game, and say NO More games with this many pass;s..well REX came up with Game plan!!! so He KNEW those passing attempts were in the Game plan.so My question why didnt REX do something about it during the Game? or make adjustments @ 1/2 time!!!

I also agree with 1 person mentioned..this YR REX handed over the Def calls to HIS Cord..and Shotty the OC calls.so what Does REX do?

Now another bad part of the Miami Game was Sanchez…after throwing a INT..he was seen sitting on side;ines under the shade.at NO Time was he seen looking over those game pic;s,though He was seen laughing and joking.that isnt a Team leader!!!!!!

u people can say He is the one I dont see it!!!! not after 3 yrs and still can not read a DEF!!!

by Jack2466 on Jan 3, 2012 3:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Rex like everyother Head Coach,plans out a game-plan EACH week.sits down with HIS Cord>!!

Honestly, we don’t even know this to be true.

by ________key on Jan 3, 2012 7:28 AM EST up reply actions  

absofucknlutely...

…fire rex . for all those reasons and then some . i never seen a team call a time out before the 1st snap from scrimmage . that alone tells me he had no clue how to prepare a football team for Sunday . the jumping offsides 5 xs in the 1st half was a joke . even the announcers were saying that its’ only Miami, its so quiet here you could hear a pin drop . if i’m hc i want my best reciever (deeeep threat ) getting the ball 7 or 8 times a game w/o fail . no excuses . you hardly put fear in the eyes of the opponent when you throw a dink for 3 yards on the 1st play of the game . ‘predictable’ became shotts identity and rex never saw it or he didnt have the stones to do something about it . ,..ok , when your offensive guard , and i’ve never spelled it out b4 , but when he has more receptions than your #1 wide reciever , somethings definately wrong .,…… i’m backing Holmes in this case as he was screaming in the officials face on that only inc. pass . we now know it was pure frustration and Not calling for a flag . but the screaming should’ve been from rex all year . not once did i see him (fix) anything on the sidelines . when gthings went wrong , i saw a dumbfounded look on his fat face . ..don’t let the door ,………………..

by g86jn on Jan 3, 2012 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

could it be....

There is something in the water at our training facilities that makes everyone inept after a couple of years,…players to coaches to GM?

by Chrebetfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe that's why Belichick resigned, he was suspicious of the water.

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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 2, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

we are seeing...

why the Ravens did not want make Rex the head coach. He has showed lack of leadership, and lost discipline and respect of his team this season. just shut up and get your players ready instead of blowing smoke up everyone’s ass.

by Chrebetfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

It very well might be.

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by John B on Jan 2, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

This

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by wilddre22 on Jan 2, 2012 11:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Yeah all those guys on the ravens def would kill someone for Rex and probably have. You see the way they talk about him and show him respect after they beat his ass this year.

by dawg1331 on Jan 3, 2012 12:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The Ravens show Rex respect but not Sanchez and Schotty

I remember before the Ravens game of last season, Ray Lewis made it his business to get in front of the mic and tell the world that Rex doesnt play and all that talking means his team has to cash the check that Rexs mouth is writing. Then thats when Lewis started to bad mouth Sanchez and the Jets by only saying …" yall talking about who? SANCHEZ AND THE JETS?" about 4-5 times and then proceeded to laugh as if it was a joke.

.. I also recall Big Kris Jenkins(he was on the team then but got injured in that game) saying in an interview on SNY show loudmouths that " he would have punched Ray Lewis in his face! If RayRay said all that in his presence." hahaa
Damn I miss our leaders!

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by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 5:41 AM EST up reply actions  

We'll see how he handles it...

Frankly, one way or another we’re going to get results. Either Rex learns in a big way (the Parcells advice finally makes sense) or we get a new coach. Next season is going to be painfully telling.

by cult hero on Jan 3, 2012 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

We knew something like this was going to happen sooner or later...

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by YoungMoney24 on Jan 2, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

One can pray that this will be the lesson he has needed, and can finally mature.

First two years he had veteran leadership in the locker room, now they are gone and the safety net vanished.

This is why you don’t get rid of locker room leaders, guys like Ellis, T-rich, even Jason Taylor and Trevor Pryce, sure they weren’t as productive but their intangibles helped the team and keep fun loving Rex, fun while having someone beat people around and have them man up.

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 2, 2012 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

this is getting rediculous

i’m realy starting the wonder how good things happened here in the first place. in one year we went from super bowl contender to this mess. who’s going to want to come here with this mess. players are calling others out, players are calling out qb’s and coaches, our gm and coach call a press conference to say they are changing absoloutly nothing. this team has gotten rid of leaders, good players, but can’t depart with their shitty OC. WHY!!!!!WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!!

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by rexthejet on Jan 2, 2012 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

Well from everything I've read, and everything I can recall as the season went on

It seems that the WRs, namely Holmes, Mason, you might even say JCo too, were all upset. Plax was somewhat upset but kept quiet as he was on a one year deal. So, if all the WRs are upset, its either at the QB or the OC. So they are upset just like us… but I wonder if they know which is the problem, QB or OC?

by CervezaVerde on Jan 2, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

So true!!

Add no one is mentioning Greene got upset with Sanchez we he threw behind him yesterday..

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by oneg82 on Jan 2, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they know

it is a tie between 2 parts of team..OC and QB…dont forget it was the OC who told Jets to go after Sanchez!!!!..and Sanchez;s former USC Coach even told those interested in Sanchez he needed at least another yr in College!!!!….BUT I am sorry BUT it does not take 3yr to learn How to read a Def…too me it tells Me he isnt watching films correctly….a QB watch;s films to see How another team;s Def reacts to certain situations..

QB also still fails at “leading” HIS REC;s…and as a few Former QB;s have pointed out Sanchez basically throws a FLAT-BALL..that is NO ARC to His thrown balls..a Flat-ball easier to Int!!!! where as with other style balls more to a teams rec;s making those catches…

by Jack2466 on Jan 3, 2012 4:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Good post John

You’re right, all 3 reasons are pathetic. And in the meantime, better hires could (and probably will) get snatched up.

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by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 2, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

in reality right now only McDaniels is available. Unless we try to get Ken O'Brian from the Pats

but that feels too weird and too much of a repeat of Mangini

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 2, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant that, out in the wild, not internal.

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 2, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Right now, yes

How long will it take for Schotty to be interviewed and land another job-that’s the question. And what if no one wants him? Are we really going to keep him? Adam Schein had a great point after the game – he said Schotty isn’t a bad OC (which I disagree with) but he’s a bad OC for the Jets. Rex says we’re ground an pound and Schotty dials up a pass heavy game plan week after week. Honestly it’s REx’s fault as much as it is Schotty’s. If you’re the head coach then you have to provide direction and hold people accountable for following it. I’m disgusted by all of them.

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by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 2, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I want Callahan!!

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by oneg82 on Jan 2, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

B. Callahan...

… O.C." I thought the announcement was going to be made today, I really hope it happens soon."

by BachsOfRain on Jan 3, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Sanchez gets killed now.

With hunter on the line and Martz calling it. I might as well shoot sanchez and put him out of his misery.

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by Noble_Lance on Jan 2, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do you want a guy who runs basically seven step drops and requires his WRs to go deep? Sanchez will die like Cutler nearly did for 2 years.

by Revenge of the Fallen on Jan 2, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't

i’d like norv (it’s a reach, but hey) or the packers qb coach.

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by rexthejet on Jan 2, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

John-If you want to clear the house...

Maybe Bill Polian….because there is a good chance that a certain QB might want to come here.

Just an idea….i don’t really want to fire everyone yet but if we did….what do you think of the idea?

by michael28102 on Jan 2, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think Polian would want to come to NY. He’s only worked in small markets, and word is he has extremely thin skin.

I also think he’s done a really bad job recently with the Colts. This year pretty much proves he’s done a lousy job putting talent on the team, and that has just been covered by Manning.

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by John B on Jan 2, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I completely agree with him being a bad GM

But you just gave me a better idea….bring him in as someone besides the GM. Basically he is just a chip to attract a QB named Manning. (If Healthy)

by michael28102 on Jan 2, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I also think it's a moot point.

Rex and Tannenbaum are coming back next season.

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by John B on Jan 2, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think people are taking this presser a bit too seriously

It’s not very uncommon for coaches and GMs to lie about their plans. Remember when Tanny said he wasn’t going to trade Rhodes and then traded him two days later? Like someone else said, we just over hyped this because Mike T was there.

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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 2, 2012 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

problem is

after they make this big press conference about how everyone is staying, cold you imagine what happens if they fire schotty? the media will have a field day…

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by rexthejet on Jan 2, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

so what?

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Jan 3, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

So the Press conference was a silly waste of time

I don’t really care because this is a professional football team. They put on a show for us, and they run their own ship. No one was complaining about how the Jets suck before the two AFC championships. This was a bad season for the Jets and showed some big weaknesses, but don’t start burning down the house. This team has made some great moves in the last few years and I think they are allowed leeway for a bad season after two great ones.

by Saverio on Jan 2, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

Dear Editor...

Please keep applying pressure on the F.O. for the next several months non stop because this is by far one of the team popular sites. Start breaking every mistake BS and Sanchez made this season. If you highlight every bad play call, read, or mistake. You would have several months worth of articles. Criticism is the word. We all know they watch sites like this because the Jets is social savvy. So every time they think about it will be closer to some getting the axe!!!

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by oneg82 on Jan 2, 2012 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

John, Totally Agree!!!!!!!!!!

John,

-I commend you once more for you getting it completely right. I haven’t watched a jets -game for 5 games, only mildly watching them through yahoo sports, and the game threads from this and other blogs to see what is going on.

-It seems completely crazy to me that this guy that I have never heard of in Brian Schottenheimer is essentially running the entire NFL. I mean the signing or firing of Schottenheimer is making the front headlines of yahoo sports and I even believe the main yahoo page.

-The height of all respect for the Jets was win they brought out the Dennis Bird jersey as honary captain!!! The speech by Dennis Byrd and what he said as recalled by the players made me really believe in the Jets and Rex.

-But as John completely gets it, the fact that they are worrying so much of this random person in Brian Schottenheimer, and essentially the world has to stop to help this guy is almost crazy to me. He shouldn’t have even coached this year. Look at the eagles defensive coordinator. THe eagles fans wanted him out between mid-season in his first year, and he will be most likely gone after coaching after a year. Schottenhimer was given another year, and now he is being supported by Rex. He doesn’t deserve that.

-What Rex, Mr. T, and Woody are doing is making a mockery of the Jets and the entire NFL. I really don’t think there is a turning back on this. I really think how can you look at these guys and respect them. Rex keeps making videos for us to buy tickets. They hold a press conference to do nothing, it is almost making fun of the fans.

-The games the jets played were disgusting to watch. THey are ruining good talent. I mean really the team if it is going to play like this should just completely be broken up. Woody Johnson is starting to look like one of the worst owners in the entire NFL. I have never in my entire life ever seen a person who do this bad of a job over so many years, get protected by the media and the coaches, and not even that but get offers to be a head coach for other positions.

-The entire league should be embarassed. It is a complete joke. I really have no interest to watch another NFL game again. The fact the NFL is run by Brian Schottenheimer is almost crazy to me. Some random guy, from Kansas or wherever he is. And his father wasn’t even that good of a coach himself. Rex and Brian , Woody, and Mr. T should all stop coaching all together. They are ruining the league.

-You will never see this incompetence in the NBA, besides from the owners and David Stern.

-But JOHN I WANT TO COMMEND YOU AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you really mean what you are writing you are one of the few in the media who speak for the people, so I thank you very much. You really should be proud of yourself, you didn’t sell out to the system!!!!!!!!!

-Your blog is completely and totally on, and you are one of the few mavericks to start reporting how bad Schotty has been for the Jets.

by Marty Moore on Jan 2, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

what is this I don’t even

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 3, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I am being totally serious

This is close to evil. I am not even kidding you. The fact that anyone could want him to be the HC of a team. It is a joke. I am being totally serious. I would think more Jets fans would be angry. Like he has ruined this entire season and most likely next. The NFL is boring to watch now. The Jets and the Saints were the only good thing to watch.

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I know who Schotty is

I am saying, that why is this guy Schotty so important. Right I am trying to make a point, that if you really look at it Brian Schottenheimer is going to be one of the most important figures of 2011. He could be 100 most influential people, and the guy is the most random, nobody. I mean he has done nothing. And he is being protected more than any coach I have ever seen in any sport ever, maybe next to Norv Turner, who apparently now is not being fired!!!

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I stand corrected and do apologize.

I was confused by some of the things you were saying. I understand now tho, and do agree. lets axe this bastard and get a real OC. i dont even care if hes a high school coach, anything is better the schotty

by GreenWhite on Jan 3, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

No I am really done

I can’t watch the Jets if they think this kind of behavior is acceptable. If Rex thinks Schotty is a good coach, and Mr. T does, this is crazy. I would rather watch high school coach. I am not thinking of next year. Forget it. It is not worth watching that is the point. Rex Ryan has become unlikable to me. They guy is a scum bag. It is like watching Albert Haynesworth. It is not worth it. The Jets treat their players bad, sell people out. Mr. T is a scum bag. The whole hard knocks thing, when they cut people on television, they seemed to have so much fun doing it. Like cutting clemens salary. Guys are scumbags. Schotty seems like a scum bag. Mark is an ego maniac, any guy who takes off his shirt and poses with a model, in a major newspaper, I think it was the New York Times, is not correct in the head. Read about Philip Rivers, guy is married to his 7th grade girlfriend, look at Eli he wasn’t running around like a lunatic.

They run out all the good guys like Richardson, now Scott, Woody, Kris Jenkins, Thomas Jones, I even liked Braylon a little bit, Jerricho Cotchery. I mean the Jets are kind of a scummy organization. I mean treating the woman reporters bad, tripping the player on the sideline. The Jets are ghetto, Rex with his tatoos, guy got so egotistical, putting up sex videos on youtube. I mean do some charity work or something.

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Hi Marty- This is going to be long.

It’s too early for this but you struck a nerve with me and I really need to respond.

There is a problem with the way the Jets organization is being run but not for any of the reasons you have listed. A lot of the guys on the team donate to plenty of charities but you don’t hear about it because no one likes to write about the positive things athletes do unless your name is Tebow.

Tattoos, posing in magazines and foot fetish videos do not make the Jets organization “ghetto”. I personally don’t find anything wrong with the Mark, Rex and the rest of those guys are living their personal lives.
Mark is the farthest thing from an egomaniac. There is nothing wrong with a young, single guy dating whoever the hell he wants.
You think Rivers and Eli are better people because they are married? You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors with those guys and their wives. You can never judge a book by it’s cover especially when it comes to entertainers and athletes.
So Rex loves his wife’s feet-yeah it’s weird but it’s far from scummy or “ghetto”. IT’S HIS WIFE! Belli cheated on his wife with a younger woman and Brady left his pregnant gf to date a supermodel. Do you think the Pats are a scummy, ghetto org?
Hard Knocks has been showing players getting cut for quite a few years. The Jets are not the first team they have shown cutting players, making fun of players or cutting salaries. That’s all part of football.
I hope you change your mind about the Jets. You have to believe things will change and they will get better…

Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!

by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 3, 2012 7:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Just to touch on a point you did that rattled me

I was a troublemaker to boot when I was younger, and apart from a few superficial scars from street fights I don’t have a mark on my body.

My sister however, who has never been in trouble a day in her life, is covered from neck to toe in artwork. Really nice, expensive artwork that “ghetto” people couldn’t afford that has been showcased at conventions. Body art is often associated with trashiness, and rightfully so, most tattoos are really tasteless and trashy, but it is not ghetto.

Calling something “ghetto” in itself is an assertion that what comes from poorer socioeconomic settings are automatically inferior and inherently bad. A good deal of NFL players are straight out of the ghetto.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
GangGreenNation.com

by Bro Namath on Jan 3, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Calling something "ghetto" in itself is an assertion that what comes from poorer socioeconomic settings are automatically inferior and inherently bad.

I agree with the point you made about tattoos. I have gotten tattoos and other things in order to commemorate certain points in my life. Like turning 21, being free after divorcing my idiot husband, etc.

However, I don’t either believe race or social class determines whether a not a person is ghetto.
There are people who live in poor neighborhoods who are hard working, intelligent and speak proper English. My father was brought up in a 2 parent house with 6 siblings in the poorer section of Baltimore. His brother and his sisters are all college graduates and they all became professional, contributing members of society. Believe me there was nothing “ghetto” about the way my father and his siblings were raised.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion regarding the word “ghetto”. My feeling is ghetto is a mindset and a certain way of life….For example, I think it’s ghetto to have 9 different baby mamas-I’m looking at you Cro. If that duded was raised in freaking Bel Air, I would still consider him ghetto. There are a lot of athletes/entertainers out there who have a ghetto mindset but my point to Marty was because a person has tattoos or likes his wife’s feet doesn’t make him ghetto.

Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!

by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 3, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

MARTY

Do us all a favor and pick a new team. I bet the Patriots would be a good team for you. you make me sick and frankly don’t deserve to be a Jets fan. Probably only started following them 2 years ago.
When shit hits the fan, peoples true Character comes out and you’ve shown yours. Go watch your NBA games

by FlightBoy83 on Jan 3, 2012 10:03 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

The best part of this post
I haven’t watched a jets -game for 5 games

followed by this comment

The games the jets played were disgusting to watch

I thought you didn’t watch the games?!

by michael28102 on Jan 3, 2012 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The strange thing

is that the Jets have never been loyal to anyone (at least players) in recent history…Leon Washington, Thomas Jones, Damien Woody, Jericho Cotchery…yeah, some of these guys may have been washed up, or nearly so, but all were respected leaders and/or well-liked in the locker room. Now they want to keep a guy no one in the locker room respects? They get rid of solid teammates for a bunch of clowns and refuse to get rid of the biggest joke of them all. This is why we will never be an elite franchise.

by O-Insanity on Jan 3, 2012 12:43 AM EST reply actions  

Don't even say we

Why even say we. What is the point, watching the jets is not even fun. I hope all Jets fans completely ignore the team and they completely fold. I say support other teams. I like the 49ers they seem cool. The saints are a good team I like watching. Texans are okay. Stop supporting the team, it will just ruin your life. This is really ghetto. The Jets don’t care. They just don’t care, why watch them, why put a single minute of your life going on even think about it. It is not healthey or beneficial for a person.

I stopped thinking about them 5 games ago, and only mildly watching them, and seriously my life has been better. I feel like a happier person. I think supporting the Jets is worse then doing a medium grade drug. It will deterioriate your life, totally serious. There is so many better sports and things out there to do. This is disgusting. There is really nothing fun about this.

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Clown if you stopped caring 5 games ago why are you on this blog then. Take a hike. I wonder if you liked watching the 49ers last year. Probably not, you rooted for the jets, of course you did they almost made it to the super bowl. Then you became a steelers fan or packers fan right.

by dawg1331 on Jan 3, 2012 1:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe bnadwagon guy

I like watching good stories. The Jets aren’t a good story anymore. Not because they aren’t winning, because how they go about running their team. I like Harbaugh because he seems like a good guy. I like Sean Payton and Brees. I hate Tom Brady, I hate Bellicheck. You know Brady’s security crew shot at with a gun, paparazzi in Brazil or something, Brady is a scumbad. I liked the yankees in the 90s with Tino Martinez and Jimmy Key and all those guys, now baseball sucks and even win the yankees won the last couple world series they won it wasn’t fun.

I don’t think it is me, I think it is more the Jets.

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Alrgith so....bye

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by Bro Namath on Jan 3, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm just saying, if it's that big of a waste of your time

Do something else maybe?

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by Bro Namath on Jan 3, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I do

I live in So Cal and it is amazing, and go to the beach every week. NYC sucks by the way and the whole North East. You guys are the most conservative, unimaginative people, arrogant people I have ever met. I am so glad I left there, I lived there 12 yrs, the worst years of my life, no wonder why it is the highest suicide rate in the entire country. You guys think you know everything, and if you ever get a chance you should check out the rest of america, it is a lot better, what america really is!!!! Long live the south.

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude, NYC is conservative compared to what?! The South? I know this country and that's not it.

And highest suicide rate is in Seattle. So many problems here. MYC is unimaginative? Yo check yourselff, we got Lady Gaga!

by CervezaVerde on Jan 3, 2012 4:47 AM EST up reply actions  

wow...are you sure you're not just a troll?

cuz if you are, you’re wasting a lot of time being one.

by PowerBar on Jan 3, 2012 5:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Not only is a lot of what you just said factually incorrect

But also- you’re banned. I don’t give a shit, you’re not coming back here while I’m still on staff. Enough of your nonsensical poison.

BTW not that something like reason matters to you but I live upstate and spent my youth traveling the United States. I love all of California, the sun in SoCal, the Redwoods and Sequoias up north, the squatters paradise in SF, the forests up north, the gigantic mountains right alongside the highway just a quick drive away from the beach.

There’s something I love and loathe about (almost) every single place I’ve been, which is everywhere. The only thing I detested were the intolerant stereotyping asses like yourself, and let me tell you, there’s a few of ‘em in every single state. But where I go for a piece of America is NYC, the true melting pot. And it’s completely lost on you.

Enough of you already.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
GangGreenNation.com

by Bro Namath on Jan 3, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

God Bless Bro Namath -salutes him-

And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald

by Noble_Lance on Jan 3, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Check out on youtube

Heart of the City “Who Dat” awesome song!!!

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Marty get a hobby and then go to church , you'll feel better.

Then comeback and post comments around draft time so we can see a new man … ps your wife might appreciate it as well bro.

The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!

by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t worry guys it’s 2012 if the Mayans are right it doesn’t matter if schotty is OC or not. You’ll all be put out of your misery.

by dawg1331 on Jan 3, 2012 12:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

No

I never want to hear or think the wordy Schotty, Rex Ryan, or Mr. T again. I never want to look up stats on seeing the jets offense for the last 7 years. I don’t want to think about how other QB’s would do in this system. I don’t want to think about should they add screens, how many times they throw it downfield, should they run the wildcat. I don’t want to think of this. This is not fun. Watching the jets is not a fun experience, seriously. It was kind of fun last year, and rex was this guy you would think was so cool.

I want the complete jets experience for the last 3 years, the good and bad to be completely wiped out. I want to go watch Alabama football or something. This is a complete joke, a complete and total waste of my time. I am starting to like college football more.

There is nothing worse then people who do the same thing over and over again, and never try to fix their mistakes.

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 12:59 AM EST reply actions  

Damn Marty....

You sound really stressed out? I think you are taking football a little too seriously. Maybe you should take a break from the Jets and come back refreshed and hopefully in a better place emotionally in July.

Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!

by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 3, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to go watch Alabama football or something./blockquote>

Thank God for that; Alabama has allowed me to completely ignore the Jets over the past few days and still be able to live football. It’s useless anyways, until there is change nothing will happen. And this is coming from a person who was born and raised a Jets fan.

You may be wondering how I love Alabama AND I love the Jets... I'll just tell you that the answer is complicated and will take too long to explain.

by bamajets88 on Jan 3, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm. Somehow that didn't come out quite right.

You may be wondering how I love Alabama AND I love the Jets... I'll just tell you that the answer is complicated and will take too long to explain.

by bamajets88 on Jan 3, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Do Rag

I know how much do rags scare you guys up there. You guys are so sophisticated with your martinis and your suits. You guys look real cool.

by Marty Moore on Jan 3, 2012 1:33 AM EST reply actions  

Fire Tanny

Bill and Chris Polian were fired by Indy. Bill Polian has forgotten more about talent evaluation and judging talent than Tanny will ever know. If his son Chris has even 1/2 the ability of his father, he would immediately become the best GM the Jets have ever had and the Jets would probably win the SB within a season or two (because he’d fire Schotty for certain).

"Reality is purely the perception of the individual mind. It follows, that since no two minds are alike, no two perceptions of reality are alike. It further follows, that what reality is to one, may seem complete madness to someone else."

– Yefim Novikov

by joeklecko on Jan 3, 2012 1:36 AM EST reply actions  

welcome back joe

if its for you it won't pass you

by tinley24 on Jan 3, 2012 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

So glad to hear you say this John
Rex Ryan addressing Santonio Holmes’ behavior by claiming that naming any captains in general was a mistake. No, making a diva malcontent receiver a captain was a mistake.

It was symptomatic of the double-talk and non-accountability, and huge disconnect going on there. No Rex, you cannot take responsibility by saying that “captains” themselves are not “team” enough. No, you cannot.

by ________key on Jan 3, 2012 1:44 AM EST reply actions  

I agree, it was beautifully put and described the issue perfectly

I’m worried Rex is creating a bigger void in leadership instead of correcting the mistakes he made in selecting leaders.

Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
GangGreenNation.com

by Bro Namath on Jan 3, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep shooting John B. Good job...

Bring the heat on those guys. They think its about them because fans annoited Mr T a genius and Rex a rock god. But it aint bout you punks. You may laugh now Mr T or Rex but the axeman would come for your asses. John B. I tip my hat to you. Keep bringing the heat and show no mercy. I would now heed your call to shoot those arrogant mofo’s my spits. I urge GGN to also head this clarion call. let our keybords be our weapon and we gonna prevail.

by overloadblitz on Jan 3, 2012 2:00 AM EST reply actions  

John B. I can't tell you how much I agree with this post and everything you've said thus far

Really though, it continues to amaze me just how little input we as fans get into what is essentially “our team.” We drive the gate and pay the bills, so why is it we should sit back and let this fantasyland bullshit happen. As far as I’m concerned, Jets games are played in East Rutherford, NJ not the Magic Kingdom, and I’m fucking sick of this Mickey Mouse organization feeding us garbage and expecting to take the bait like we’re hungry trout. For the first time in my life today, I read the ESPN New York nonsense and agreed with it. As much as I hate guys like Cimini and O’Connor, they’ve been right the whole time and we just failed to see it. These clowns aren’t the answer. At this stage of the game it’s not about football, or winning and losing- it’s about us, as a collective fanbase, being lied to and deceived by the people who we financially support.

by cstroh8 on Jan 3, 2012 2:29 AM EST reply actions  

I really don't get it...

What the hell was the point of this press conference?

You’d have to be living on Mars to not know what questions the reporters were going to ask. They were going to ask about the obvious locker room issues, the fact that BS is a moron and the Holmes incident.

The conference said nothing—absolutely nothing. Tanny’s line about Sanchez being the starter next year followed by “we’ll be evaluating every coach and position” was laughable. I mean, WHAT WAS THAT? Nothing would have been much better because that conference was just such a waste of time.

Well, either Rex and Co. learn big from this year—and I honestly believe they well but that could just be the Jets Stockholm Syndrome—or they won’t and we get to start over the following year with Revis, Mangold, Brick and Harris a year older. Ugh.

by cult hero on Jan 3, 2012 2:52 AM EST reply actions  

we might need to advertise on a billboard

with a sign that says “Fire Schottenheimer!!!”

by PowerBar on Jan 3, 2012 5:00 AM EST up reply actions  

It's kind of hard to complain now that everyone is complaining about

what I’ve been saying since week 1, actually since 2010. I’m still a bit numb from how bad we suck. We were 8-8 but didn’t beat a team with and over .500 record all season. The units that were put on this field had no identity, it was like watching high school football being played by millionaires. I said I wasn’t going to watch games for the rest of the season after that Denver lose and ended up watching again after the Buffalo game. I guess I’m a gullible Jets fan, destined to not be totally dedicated to a Super Bowl in my lifetime…

by Timmaht on Jan 3, 2012 7:07 AM EST reply actions  

do this mean we are gonna need therapy?:}

The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!

by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

It feels as if the last two years were just a dream.

This morning feels like what being a Jets fan used to feel like for a long time.

Please Rex…..man up…..don’t be afraid to hold players and coaches responsible. Invite Shotty to your house for lunch with the missus…..but don’t let him keep his job. Talk with Tone and tell him in private that you understand his frustration…..but hold him accountable.

Please, football gods, don’t let this stuff ruin this team…..

Being born in New York and rooting for the Islanders, Jets, and Mets. Yeah, I know.
Twitter: cmauceri524

by CharlieIsles on Jan 3, 2012 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

Oh man he has got to feel our pain and not blow 5 dollar newport smoke up our ass

And stop trying to be everybody buddy when you dont even know whats going on during the goddamn games … starting to look like a fool with all this talk that doesnt even have a AFC ring for it. Who knows if we ever get back with this QB.

And another thing when you talk like that ,do you really know who takes the blunt of the taunts when you talk all this big shit and fall on your face so cleanly??
Take a wild guess . Yea! US ,THE FANS ,we get it from Giants fans ,from Patriot fans ,even bum ass Dolphin fans not to mention all the other assholes who knows your a Jets fan and wanna jump in on your misery like a random double dutch contest (ohboy how I have to restrain from punching somebody in the bridge of their nose with all of my might ).

But we are the ones spending our money on merchandice and TV packages and its totally unfair to get berated like Roseanne was in your ear cause of Rex and his fucking mouth thats getting paid millions to do the smoke and mirrors act.
Its time you do something for us now Big guy .

We want somebody replaced and not some friggin special teams assistant either!!
Somebody has to feel our pain.

The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!

by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

its because of shite like this

that make the madden games so popular .
i’m going on to play franchise mode , cut smith and hunter fire that fuckwit schotty and see if our fortunes change for the better .
anything to relieve the stress of this season

if its for you it won't pass you

by tinley24 on Jan 3, 2012 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with what a lot of comments have been saying.

They’re trying to get Schotty out the quiet way (i.e., not marring his chances of getting a HC job somewhere else). It’s a long offseason. Rex’s and Tanny’s body language during that presser was SO transparent. They read the news. When even the Jets beat writers say Schotty has to go, they know they’ll have a coup if he stays.

I’m also surprised that no one seized on to what Holmes said about Sanchez post-Phins game. Yeah, there are plenty of stories about a midweek blow-up between them (probably precipitated by Schotty’s horrible game-planning which barely involved Tone at all). But Tone said, “[Mark] can be a great quarterback. He’s got a lot of work this offseason to do and I think WE will get it together this offseason” (emphasis on the “WE,” as in he’s not just focused on what Sanchez has to do).

To me, this sounds like Tone is putting the blame squarely on Schotty and still has belief in Mark. I’ve never known Tone in his post-game quotes to sugar coat. I think he still thinks Mark can step up, perhaps outside Schotty’s handcuffs (like the 2 min. drill we’ve seen over and over). Feel free to disagree.

by MiaJets on Jan 3, 2012 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

Interesting

(And if your name is “Miami Jets”, must be tough this morning lol…)

Tone has to realize though that he basically made Mark play with 10 guys on the field for the past 2-3 weeks (maybe more.) I’m waiting for someone to start the conversation based on, “How bad was Mark really this year if his #1 WR quit on him?” Not making excuses for Mark, but lets see where any other QB’s numbers would be if his #1 wide reciever didn’t hustle / go to team meetings / etc.

Damn….as I write that last sentence, WTH Rex, why did you not do something about this?!?! I am so freaking pissed.

Being born in New York and rooting for the Islanders, Jets, and Mets. Yeah, I know.
Twitter: cmauceri524

by CharlieIsles on Jan 3, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahahaha

I grew up in S. Florida as a Jets fan, but thankfully I’m not living there now!

But yes, when D.Kell and LDT are your top throwing options, there’s a huge problem. No wonder the field the opposing defense had to cover was only about 10 yards long! Someone posted earlier on GGN footage of Sanchez throwing while he was at USC. I want an OC and QB coach who can bring that back. That is all.

by MiaJets on Jan 3, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I had a bad feeling....

The minute I heard they were letting Edwards and Cotchery go last offseason. Then they signed Mason and I thought WTF??? Cotchery gave many good years to the Jets and they let him go so they can sign a 37-year old has-been? That feeling stayed with me throughout the entire season, from the very first game against Dallas when we needed Revis to intercept Romo in order to win. I’ve been scratching my head all season wondering what Rex and Tanny were thinking with some of their personnel moves—did the lockout throw off their rythm or something?

by JoCaT33 on Jan 3, 2012 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

I had that same sinking sensation.

Like nothing with the team would go right given how the season started.

I think J-Co wanted to be released because he knew that Rex/Schotty would never see him as anything but a 3rd down receiver, in an offense that isn’t exactly throw-first to begin with. As to Braylon, I think they were worried about his off the field actions. It IS somewhat telling that he got into a brush with the law the week where he should’ve been on his best behavior (while he was unsigned). That said, I think many are right in that he was hungry, had good chemistry with Sanchez, and was a legit downfield threat. Plus, he seemed legit excited to be a Jet.

I truly believe Rex/Mike T got so caught up in Nnamdi fever that a lot of priorities fell out the window.
Brad Smith (there was no reason for him to leave).
Shaun Ellis (how the hell did THAT happen?).
D-Wood (I’m convinced he retired because the Jets FO said vets’ min. or the door).

I could understand a push to grow young guys on the team, but that’s not really what they did.

by MiaJets on Jan 3, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

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