It's Official: The Front Office is Filled With Trolls
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 19, 2012 7:28 PM EST
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PrintManish Mehta is reporting via Twitter that the plan as of now for the Jets is to keep QB Coach Matt Cavanaugh through 2012. Clearly, the FO are just trying to troll all of their fans.
You may have heard of Matt Cavanaugh. The Offensive Coordinator at Pitt who started Tyler Palko over Joe Flacco. The Offensive Coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens who, despite winning a Super Bowl, led one of worst offenses in modern history with Trent Dilfer. And the one who, for the past several years, has completely failed to develop Mark Sanchez into a viable franchise quarterback.
Seriously? This is the guy that the Jets are planning on keeping? Good, they threw out Brian Schottenheimer, but to even suggest that they keep Cavanaugh is an insult to any person who has watched the Jets in the past three years. Let's hope it's all a joke and the Jets actually find someone competent. Like a monkey. Or a dead raccoon. Because I honestly think those options could teach Sanchez a few more tricks at quarterback than Cavanaugh has been able to.
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Only one thing left to do
Riot in Florham Park!
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 19, 2012 7:34 PM EST reply actions
I have the pitchforks. You bring the sandwiches.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 19, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Occupy Florham Park
we planned for it if it was Schotty we can try again for Cav
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
Fine
But for the love of God, somebody bring sandwiches.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 19, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Let's just get drunk and sob at the gates
That would pretty much sum it up
"Chrebet is magic!"
by NYJALLFINGDAY on Jan 19, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
we actually didn't plan it,
but we have discussed it here. You should come out of the office we have the lounge below the basement, the Schotty on the dart board, the Tom Brady Toilet Paper in the bathroom, all the liquor looks green and white.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
Petition for my fat ass to be the new QB coach
I can’t throw a spiral for a damn, I whine when I get my hair ruffled like Tom Brady. My accuracy over 5 yards is pitiful, and I have no patience for anything and if I was any more inert I’d be a statue in a museum
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
Why?!?!?!?!?!
"I want to be a catcher. I love to catch. I like to be a catcher. I like to be in the middle of the game. I mean, it's my position. I want to play my position."-Jesus Montero
no no – please no more lock out
some you try ruid jets ’s offeason and reagular season
rod messley [cb1]
I'm getting my Rod Messley decoder ring soon
Will post translation.
by CervezaVerde on Jan 19, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 19, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I really don’t pay attention to that hack of a journalist. He’s a clown who has said a lot of false stuff.
by dawg1331 on Jan 19, 2012 7:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Manish?
Cimini is the person who reported Cav wasn’t going to remain with the team so he’s the one giving out false information.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Cimini didn't report Cav was going to get fired
He just said that Cav had told friends that he expected to be fired.
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 19, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
Cimini said he had heard and expected Cav to be fired. Which is fair game, assuming he has credible sources. It’s not like he was saying, “It’s official, the Jets are firing Cav.”
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 19, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
If anything Cav was the one reporting he was getting fired
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 19, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Cimini is a clown too. I can’t believe we have two dopes reporting for the jets. Manish also swore to the heavens the jets were getting randy moss last year.
by dawg1331 on Jan 19, 2012 8:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
we actually were damn close to ending up with moss
I was basically trying to mentally brace myself for it. It’s weird, he could’ve done a good job stretching the field, but he’d be another locker room cancer.
Manish was the only douche reporting the moss to the jets bull sh*t. How did we almost get him
by dawg1331 on Jan 20, 2012 12:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I Guess
Still seems like he was either misinformed or giving out false info.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Perhaps its good
Perhaps Cavanaugh can translate the new things for Sanchez. Perhaps Sanchez mechanics are best known by Cavanaugh. Who knows. I ain’t getting upset by a position coach though.
The position coaches are the ones that spend the most time with the players. As bad as Schotty was at calling plays, it was Cav that was spending the most time and working on Sanchez’s mechanics and knowledge of the playbook. Schotty was responsible for the whole offense, Cav just for Sanchez. And he failed miserably. People are upset because Sparano doesn’t have a great history of developing QBs or leading good offenses, but Cav is the poster child for a bad track record.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 19, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
And there were a couple of commentators who were former QBs,
I think Trent Dilfer and Steve Young, who were saying there was a mechanics problem with Sanchez’s throwing motion that was so clear that they could see it just from watching him casually in a handful of games. Something about him curling the ball up behind his ear when he throws.
My point being, his NUMBER ONE job is to make sure the QB has good mechanics as the foundation on which to build other skills. If, after three years, he didn’t notice/fix that – and Sanchez CLEARLY hadn’t heard anyone tell him about this problem before when he was told about Young/Dilfer’s comments by the ESPN interviewer – then Cav isn’t doing his job. Period.
I love all this.
95% of Jet fans hardly knew who Matt Cavanaugh was a month ago and now we all hate him with the power of a thousand suns because he’s “gonna be kept around” another year.
He’s guilty by association of Brian Shottenheimer and thats enough for all of us to be outraged. Sorry but I don’t buy that enough to be picking up pitch forks and taking to the streets.
We don’t know what was going on behind the scenes. If Shotty was 1/10th the poison some of us think he is it would leave little room for Matt to have any affect good or bad.
I’m fine with giving him the year without Shotty’s influence. Maybe he’s been overridden all this time and has good input for the kid. We don’t know.
And I also don’t think yanking every “mentor” the kids had from day one is a good idea either. Someone has to transition the kid to a new system and it helps to have someone who knows where the kid sits at the present moment.
I’m also not gonna knock the guy for being stuck with a meathead like Trent Dilfer either. Are we trying to say Matt didn’t quite get all he could out of that moron? He was tasked with trying to milk a stone with that guy.
I know i said i didn't really like this move
But you got a point, which I was sorta thinking about too. It really isn’t the end of the world.
AGREED!
Gotta love all these fans who are expert QB coaches in their own minds!
Cavanagh
has a terrible track record wherever he has been. People have every right to be upset knowing that we are hiring incompetents to run our terrible offense.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 19, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not an expert, obviously. But results speak for themselves. Cavanaugh is simply not a good QB coach. That’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a fact at this point.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 19, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
FACTS?
Dilfer, Flacco, and Sanchez you presume them to have been better than they were/are if they had another mentor? How do you know that or justify that? Could it be possible, just possible, that each of these QB’s peaked? Do you really think that, with some other QB coach, they’d be Manning [Peyton or Eli], Brady, Brees? That seems to be what you’re saying. Logically, that would mean that every team not winning a Super Bowl has a lousy QB coach. Geez!
Neither Dilfer, Flacco nor Sanchez was ever projected to be a ‘franchise’ QB on par with the top QB’s in the NFL. The Jets REACHED for Sanchez. Sanchez will never be a ‘franchise’ QB for the Jets. He doesn’t have the skills necessary. For example, he has terrible ‘pocket awareness’. That’s not something you can teach. It’s instinctive. Throwing behind the receiver is not ‘technique’. It’s timing. You either have a sense of ‘timing’ or you don’t. Turning to avoid getting hit before you finish you’re throwing motion is not something you can teach. You have to have the courage to take the hit. That’s a personal makeup thing. It can be learned but not taught.
Sanchez doesn’t have what it takes to be a Franchise QB and all the coaching in the world — even by a supposed QB guru — isn’t going to make him into one. Either Sanchez and has the skills and desire or he lacks one or the other or both.
I’d love for Sanchez to come back next year, prove me wrong, QB the team to a winning Super Bowl, and prove, I suppose, just how great a QB coach Cavanaugh is. Nonsense!
Why even have a QB coach if he makes no difference? I mean for Cavanaugh to have no responsibility for the utter failure of the people he was assigned to in three different spots, he has to be the unluckiest guy in the world.
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Fortunately...
he’s only a QB coach and not the OC—his bad decisions with other teams were at the OC position, and thankfully, he’s not in a position to make those kinds of decisions here.
I still say we should bring in Brett Favre as a QB coach. :-)
QB gurus
Haley did well as an offensive coordinator with Arizona and Hue Jackson is known to work well with QBs. We also could have possibly hired a guy like Tom Clements as our OC and Aaron Rodgers swears by him.
Why is this team hiring coaches with no ability to put together a prolific offense or work well with QBs.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 19, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Al Saunders
Currently at the Raiders but likely to move on when they appoint a new Head Coach
Turned Trent Green into a legitimate starter at the Chiefs, has worked with Jason Campbell when he’s performed at his best
Of course the Baltimore guy gets preferential treatment.
Rex wants to coach the Ravens so bad that he desperately clings to anything thats been associated with that team.
Miami and Baltimore
not the places to look for offensive coaches. Has anyone watched the Dolphins the last few years and said to themselves “wow thats an offense we need to be more like”
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 19, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
How did I know this was coming???
Let's Make sure we play like the f***in NEW YORK JETS
and not some f***in slapd**k team!
sanchez got overwhelmed this year
He showed no pocket presence. He threw off target. He threw into double and tripple coverage. His decision making was really bad, but I do think some of his accuracy issues came from injuries. I don’t think keeping cav is a good idea, but I also don’t think its the end of the world. Hopefully the new offense and an offseason will help sanchez to throw to open recievers
by revis24fan on Jan 19, 2012 8:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Manish
Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum and Rex Ryan will be holding a conference call for season ticket holders on Friday at 12:30 pm ET.
Get a fire Cav chant going please.
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 19, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions
Huh
so much for the promises of tweaking the game and cleaning house with coaches to help Sanchez.
Arm chair GM. Mod/contributing writer at SBN Jets blog GGN.
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Listen to what the owner said
he basically said they were gonna simplify the offense. The organization has decided to pay franchise money on a QB that they have no confidence in and wont give him a chance to improve. This organization has stifled our young QB and not given him an environment in which to excel.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 19, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Disgraceful
Sparano and Cavanagh running this offense and in charge of our QB. If true this proves once and for all that this organization is full of clowns.
Daboll
Cimini thinks they are waiting on Daboll which is better than Cavanagh but not much. Only the Jets would hire the Dolphins offensive coaching staff. Please explain to me why this team would not be looking to hire offensive coaches from teams that actually score points?
Sparano/Daboll or Sparano/Cavanagh ensures another terrible offense for this team. We could have hired Haley, Hue Jackson or some coach off of good offensive teams but instead we are hiring incompetents off a staff as bad as ours.
This defense better be the best in the league next season because the offense will once again be ranked in the 20s. We havent had a good offense since 1998 so why start now. It should be great watching Sparano jumping up and down every time we have one of those 15 play drives ending in a field goal.
Just so everybody knows in advance, those loud crashes you’ll hear after Daboll is hired will be the sound of me repeatedly banging my head on my desk.
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by John B on Jan 19, 2012 10:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, he was the QB coach in 2007 and 2008. He isn’t a very good coach. As Cleveland OC, he actually once called a quarterback sneak on first and ten.
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Tell me he's lying
Cav still has a job? They should of just fired the entire offensive coaching staff except Anthony Lynn. Tanny is asleep at the wheel.
by Jones. on Jan 19, 2012 9:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
meh
I’m not gonna overreact to a QB coach returning
Proud member of the fire Brian Schottenheimer club
"Grunt and Punt offense"
"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
"Planing for Manning"
well
to me, he has been just as much of the problem as schotty. he has a history of ruining qb’s. i thought we were “cleaning house” with our O coaches. why the hell are they keeping him? they got rid of ellard, even though he didn’t do anything wrong. so again, why is he still here
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Did you watch those Pittsburgh teams play?
Well I did and they were consistently terrible offensively and their QBs were never good at all. I remember a bowl game a few years ago where they lost 3-0. Cavanagh has been terrible at every job he has ever had.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 19, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Whoops, my mistake. Fixed.
Thanks!
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 19, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
OH GOD!!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is me
meanwhile, the evil football god laughs. WHY DO YOU HATE US SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STOP LAUGHING NEWMAN!!!!!!!!!!!
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"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengel
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Well, it seems like the news of one position coach returning makes everyone crazy
As i’ve said, i’m not a fan of cavanaugh either, but i’m not gonna freak out about it.
Also
Sanchez has been in the league for long enough to understand how to fix and identify some of his own mistakes. The guy apparently watches film all the time. And again, Schotty is gone, so that’s a plus.
Bullshit, if there was porn in the film room everyone would have had better ball control.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
by Noble_Lance on Jan 19, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
This just got gross.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 19, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think this is a smart move
I also think it would be wise to re-hire ritchie kotite. Make al groh the highest paid consultant in the nfl. Get our running game back by hiring blair thomas as our running back coach. And last but not least make herm edwards our color commentator
by altoons88thairborne on Jan 19, 2012 10:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I thought Herm already was
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
by Noble_Lance on Jan 19, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Could Paul Hackett be in the mix?
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 19, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Ummm.... Really? No, really.
And last but not least make herm edwards our color commentator
Good point
I meant give him a life time contract
by altoons88thairborne on Jan 19, 2012 10:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You guys are overreacting
A major part of Cavanaugh’s problem is Sanchez.
by michael28102 on Jan 20, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
rid holmes is pholem – he yell at mark s and d keller in locker room andon field
rod messley [cb1]
by Rod Messley on Jan 20, 2012 12:42 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
In vascular plants, phloem is the living tissue that carries organic nutrients
by CervezaVerde on Jan 20, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Coming from a former Pre-Med student
the word phloem used in any context outside of a plant biology course is outstanding
what has Cavanaugh done to earn a job?
If you want to win, you need to treat your coaching staff like you treat your players, as expendable if a better option comes along.
Fans expect management to put the most talent on the field, within the salary cap. When a Jets player is a FA, we expect that if the team can sign a better FA for the same amount of $$$, that the team is going to display zero loyalty and upgrade the position.
Well, IMO, we should expect management to assemble the best possible coaching staff. That means don’t just bring back coaches unless they clearly fail and deserve to be “fired”. Instead, the FO should constantly be asking if a better coach is available.
In Cavanaugh’s case, the question isn’t whether he has so screwed up that he cannot be brought back (even if you can make that argument). Instead, the question is whether, in the universe of potential QB coaches, there is literally nobody better who could be hired.
The idea that it is impossible to find a better QB coach is a joke.
by square1 on Jan 20, 2012 1:47 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I'm not sure exactly what Cavanaugh does
I would just as soon flush the whole staff on offense, pretty much everyone else is gone anyway, but from our spot you can’t really tell if Cavanaugh sucks or not as a QB coach when it could very well be that Sanchez simply doesn’t have. Either way, it’s a little unfair to slam him for Palko over Flacco because A. Palko was a much higher rated recruit, and B. that was Wanny’s call.
by J-Nasty on Jan 20, 2012 7:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Flacco
Oops. Meant to say, and didnt flacco end up going to delaware after pitt? Seems like no good colleges thought he was a great prospect either.
Still, we can do better than cav. Hopefully they are still looking or hoping he gets hired.
by RichTodd on Jan 20, 2012 9:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Flacco's from near where I went to high school in southern NJ
He was a good player there at Audobon HS, but the dude was a lightly recruited bean pole. Him panning out was a bit of a surprise.
by J-Nasty on Jan 20, 2012 9:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
There was an ESPN radio interview where Trent Dilfer said that he and Steve Young had noticed a mechanical issue with Sanchez
They said he started to wrap the ball around the back of his head which screwed up his timing, ergo the passes behind the recievers. When Michael Kay told this to Sanchez during the interview it was obvious that both Schotty and Cavanaugh failed to recognize this issue becasue Mark was totally unaware. If an analyst who skims film on the entire league can diagnose a problem, that a coach who spends his time breaking down in depth the film FOR ONE PLAYER can’t; that’s when you know you have a problem.
I am glad Woody Johnson trying to defend his team is only digging the hole deeper
Woody is the Toxic problem if you ask me
Right, because no team wants an owner who loves to be out and about amongst the fans on gameday, gives his front office free reign to spend on whoever they please, and brought in the head coach who made our franchise relevant again.
by cstroh8 on Jan 20, 2012 12:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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