Woody Johnson: "Holmes Will Be Back"
by David_Wyatt on Jan 19, 2012 2:11 PM EST
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PrintManish Mehta has been tweeting some comments from Jets owner Woody Johnson, I have copied a few tweets below to read:
Woody Johnson says Santonio Holmes will definitely be on Jets in 2012. "He may be one of the best players we've ever had
Will Jets pursue Peyton Manning? Woody Johnson says he has confidence in Sanchez, but "We're going to look at every possibility
Woody Johnson: "You always try to take care of your QB. They probably coddle Tom Brady and all the other great QBs in the league."
Woody Johnson confident Sanchez-Holmes rift can be fixed: "One is good for the other. They have a good reason to iron this thing out."
There are many more that you can read but these were the most important. I usually cringe when I listen to owners talk about their teams, normally they are the "money" but really don't know a great deal about the day to day events of the team. How clued in is Woody, I really don't know. However I agree with pretty much everything that was said, I don't think it's viable to cut Holmes, and if used properly he will make Sanchez better. We should pursue all options, I think there is a difference between protecting your QB and coddling a QB. I think the first can be said in relation to the Patriots and the second in relation to the Jets.
Do you have any problems with what Woody said, remember to check out Manish's feed for the rest of the quotes.
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Woody Johnson says Santonio Holmes will definitely be on Jets in 2012. "He may be one of the best players we’ve ever had
Curtis Martin, Wayne Chrebet, Darrel Revis, Nick Mangold, D’Brickshaw Ferguson, Chad Pennington, Shaun Ellis…
point being the list of players who I think the team has had during his ownership who are better then Holmes could keep going for a while.
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All he said was one of the best rather than the best
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There is another word in there...
He said “MAY” be…not “IS”. The comment doesn’t mean a lot in regards to current status…it may mean more in terms of expectations for Holmes.
by Mac N Cheese on Jan 19, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
He also might be trying to publicly prop up Holmes.
He’s being an executive. When you have a diva you have to keep happy, after he’s been bashed in the press, he’s doing his best to prop up Holmes’s ego…bring him back into the fold. Whether or not Santonio IS or MAY BE one of the best, I doubt that’s what this is about. I think this is a guy running an organization who knows that a diva WR needs to hear some compliments so he won’t pout anymore.
Woody is a management guru
all that money came from mommy and daddy, but this guy actually knows how to accomplish something. Yeah right
Sounds to me Woody would keep Holmes over Sanchez
If those 2 can’t find a way to get along
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seems that way to me too
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 19, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
That would be a pretty bold move
Considering Holmes is one blunt away from being out the whole year and he’s not the most popular guy in the locker room.
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Exactly, I understand his talents and all
but I don’t think any player in the NFL would have did what he did on the sidelines in that Dolphins game. I don’t see why he should be back, he’s a cancer I dont care how much it costs
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 19, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Woody is a total moron
Woody is a nice guy, but he is a total moron and there is a lot of evidence to support that conclusion.
Woody says TO is also coming to town.
He must not be that stupid
He owns the Jets, you post on a blog.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
well
He must not be that stupid
He owns the Jets, you post on a blog.
did he inherit his money?
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Sure but getting money and keeping it are two different things
Brunell made tons of money, Mike Tyson made even more. They went through it though. I can name tons of peeps that have blown it all. Hell, Trump even has been bankrupt. Woody was born with the silver spoon, which means he has had the best schooling money can buy. Im sure he isnt a dumb person. Any company can go bankrupt, look at Hostess and Kodak, yet Johnson and Johnson seems to be doing alright. Jets have been very success under his watch too I might add.
I just hate empty comments, If he is a moron, tell me why he is. what exactly hasn’t he accomplished? A SB win? There are plenty of smart folks that own teams in the NFL that haven’t. Its a tough thing to accomplish, if it wasn’t, it wouldn’t be as big a deal as it is.
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true
i don’t think he’s a moron. i was more refering to the 2nd part of that. i don’t think the fact that he owns this team makes him smart. and i don’t think being a moron makes you dumb. i don’t have much against woody at all
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The part of him owning the team is smart though
Its not like he inherited the team, he made the decision to buy it. And maybe Im wrong but i would think this team is worth a hell of a lot more than when he purchased it. Keep in mind, I ripped Woody plenty this year for being cheap.
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I doubt he was saying Woody is generic moron, more like a football moron
Which is hardly earth shattering, most owners are.
by J-Nasty on Jan 19, 2012 5:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He seems like he knows more than the Stephen Ross's of the league
Does he know as much about the game as Jerry Jones or Bob Kraft, probably not but he knows enough.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Well unlike Jones
Woody knows when to stay out of team operations, aka he doesnt play GM.
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Thats not a good thing, its a great thing,lol
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
I doubt he was saying Woody is generic moron, more like a football moron
Which is hardly earth shattering, most owners are.
by J-Nasty on Jan 19, 2012 5:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the only way I'd look at Manning is if he'd get released
not interested in giving up top draft picks to someone who is coming off a career threatening injury.
by NJ Champ on Jan 19, 2012 2:32 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Colts wont trade Peyton
Only way he becomes available, which he will, is as a free agent. Every reporter out there says Irsay wouldnt put it on a GM to be the guy who traded Peyton Manning.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Don't kid yourself
If the Jets can figure out how to get rid of Holmes without taking a big hit, he’s gone.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
The word of this organization is worth less than a wooden nickel at this point.
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Just "Glad-handing"
I don’t really put much stock in these comments by Woody. Of course Holmes will be back, b/c the Jets won’t want to take the cap hit. As for Brady being “coddled”, he is a HOF player with 3 SB rings, yet his OC chewed him out after a PIC this season. What Woody should have said was that Rex is the HC and he needs to get his players in line ASAP.
BTW, reports say Haley probably won’t be going back to Arizona either. Does anyone remember what other positions he was interviewing for? Clearly, he is reluctant to drop back to a position coach position and is angling for a coordinator spot. I just can’t remember if he had interviewed for anything else. Does anyone else remember?
All young starting QB's (including Brady) are coddled in the beginning
so I don’t see anything wrong with that. But Sanchez is going into his 4th year and it’s time for that crap to stop.
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Here, here.
I think Woody was being coy and evasive when he said he “wouldn’t rule anything out.” It’s not impossible, but color me shocked if Sanchez gets dropped this year. I really think that if the source of the tension is all Sanchez-Holmes, they’ll find a way to make them co-exist and cooperate.
They’ve got about 4-5 months before OTAs and camp. That’s a heck of a lot of time for some major couples-therapy sessions.
I think my buddy Brian Bassett says it well when he says Holmes is a “necessary evil.” It would be tough to find a better receiver based on what will be available, and getting rid of him would create an extra need. Plus add in the cap hit. If he doesn’t shape up, he’ll be gone the instant it becomes feasible.
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Why the Owner commenting on Personal decisions
to begin with. Woody could easily say that the Holmes decisions will be handled by GM.
Yes, yes and yes
I agree with all your points. Plus from Santonio’s perspective, it doesn’t do him any good to be a ‘cancer’. Notice he’s kept his mouth shut since the last game. Must be hard when you know he has a lot to say. But he doesn’t want to be viewed in any more negative light than he already is. He knows best thing for him is to shut up and have a good year. That’s what Woody was getting at (in my opinion).
by mangold'sbeard on Jan 19, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Both sides have been DEAD. SILENT.
Not a peep out of Holmes’s camp; not a word from Sanchez’s people.
They may have been the catalyst, but I think they’re the only two people who are handling this as it should be handled right now.
Say the final word and let the controversy be over so “Jets” doesn’t become synonymous with “complete trainwreck.”
Woody Saying this
actually makes me NOW think they are trying to move Holmes.
That’s usually the PR spin way to go.
(sorry)
I’m starting to think you may be right. I was thinking why would you heap so many praises towards a guy who caused so much discord in your locker room? They are definitely trying to Schotty Santonio and it’s not going to work.
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D-Jax.
He certainly hasn’t reached the locker room poisoning proportions of Santonio, but he’s stomped his feet on the field and caused the Philly FO a lot of headaches in his contract negotiation.
Oh I forgot about him
I wouldn’t mind seeing DeSean in Jet Green.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Well, at least before Haley turned the Jets down,
I think the thought was -even if the run/pass ratio evened out a little more – that the passing game would grow to be a slightly more prolific part of the offense under a competent Passing Coordinator/QB Coach.
Who knows what’s going to happen now, but it’s just one big mess.
Isn't it just a money issue with Desean?
If they’re gonna take on Holmes’ contract, they might as well just pay Desean. DJ is already a perfet fit there, and when he gets paid he’ll be fine.
If you want to see the textbook definition of "equivocation":
"I have a lot of confidence in Mark Sanchez," Johnson added. "Despite some of the reports, he’s a very hard worker. He can do everything that you want a quarterback to do. When he has the confidence, which I think he’ll have this year… he’s had a lot of success in his life. This is probably one of the first years where he’s experienced the New York way. My feeling is that Mark is the kind of guy that will learn from this. We’re going to try to make the offense maybe a little more suitable for what Mark’s development is."
Those were Woody’s most directed comments about Sanchez. At first, he sounds like he’s backing the guy, and then he reverses course. “More suitable for what Mark’s development is”?? THAT has to be a slap in the face.
In fairness, he follows that with:
"With Mark, you have a 25-year-old quarterback that you can develop," Johnson later added. "You can have a quarterback for 10 years with a guy like this. These guys… they’re not available every day. We have a lot of confidence in Mark. We think he’s our guy. We’re blessed that we have a guy that we feel can … get a lot better. He can do everything. He’s got the work ethic. He’s got all the ingredients in place to be a great quarterback."
This sounds a bit better. But, backpedal much?
What he is really saying
is we will run the ball 90% of the time. if you think our offense was conservative before just wait till wildcat Sparano takes over. I really think this organization is full of idiots from ownership on down to the coaching staff.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 19, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
And for goodness's sake, get a QB guy in who can coach worth a damn.
I’m sure he’s crying all the way to the bank, but I feel sorta bad for Sanchez with the spot he’s in.
Whats the deal
with Cavanagh? I know he hasnt been fired yet but they cant possibly bring him back can they.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 19, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'd guess now that Haley has said no (oh, wait - it was "mutual")...
they need to start from scratch. I’d bet anything the FO was banking on Haley. Just like they banked on Nnamdi. Will they ever learn…?
exactly
The first reports about Sparano all included Haley and some kind of coach by committee situation. The speed in which they got Sparano was shockingly fast.
by mangold'sbeard on Jan 19, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
I think everything that is said by this teams higher ups should be taken with a grain of salt
They have a history of not being the most honest people in the world.
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 19, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions
woody is just playing his cards
first chance he can to get rid of Holmes he will,they dont want to take the salary cap hit.hes hoping for a trade with a restructured contract. and if they are stuck with him he will have to make sure those problems are worked out.i really didnt think he would come out and say Holmes wouldnt be back,then no one will want to trade for him.
The Jets organization says something and they always stand by it
Santonio ought to call Pete Kendall and Kerry Rhodes and ask them if he should be worried. Not that Santonio would mind getting away from Sanchez. If he does get moved, I hope its to a wasteland like Cleveland.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
I want him going to a place where he wont win and there is a worse QB than Sanchez
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
well
when we trade someone, they usualy go to those types of places. rhodes whent to the cards, lowery went to the jaguars. and the guys we gave for sanchez went to cleveland. we traded keyshuan to the bucs, but when you get a offer like that…
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Bucs were a good team when Key went there
But Holmes to Jacksonville would be awesome. He thinks Sanchez is bad, Gabbert makes him look like Joe Montana.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Santonio should be looking at Key's and T.O's careers to see how
being a jerk in the locker room can and will ruin your career.
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They still got multiple chances after it was known they were team cancers
Holmes will continue to get jobs in NFL until he either cant play at a high level or is suspended.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Oh yeah those guys got multiple chances but
their careers didn’t turn out the way they should’ve. And Santonio is on that same path right now. Good journeyman WR’s with bad reputations….Not a good look.
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I cant agree when it comes to TO
His numbers are among the best ever at the WR position and he wouldve probably won a title or two with better QBs.
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That was the problem
None of the teams who had better QB’s wanted him around because he’s such a diva. T.O’s numbers don’t mean anything to me because he has blown up every team he’s been on with the exception of Buffalo. Just think about how is career has turned out and how much money he’s lost because of his actions. T.O was so good he could’ve gotten a couple of big contracts but instead he is in debt because of his attitude.
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T.O. has made more than enough money, he just wasnt wise with it. He has good numbers despite some of the lackluster QBs he has played with. Sure his act has worn thin but nobody can take away the fact that he was very talented and his numbers are pretty much proof of this. The guy is no doubt going to HOF, not sure how that could be considered a bad career.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Tony Romo chokes but he's a pretty good QB
Also I’m not 100% sure but I think T.O had Steve Young as one of his QB’s and Donovan wasn’t bad either. T.O has made good money but it’s nothing compared to the money he would’ve made if he could’ve remained professional. I always liked T.O as a player but it’s going to be a long time before T.O gets into the HOF.
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He had Young at the tail end of his career and Donovan was an alright QB who couldnt come up big in the important games. Not enough gets made about how TO worked very hard to get back on the field in that SB and was probably the best player on the field that day but his QB was too busy choking(or I should say puking) in the big moment. TO should be a first ballot HOF for his accomplishments on the field.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
If Tone was 60% the player TO was, getting rid of him wouldn't even be discussed
Comparing them is insulting to TO. TO is a Hall of Famer.
by J-Nasty on Jan 20, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If Tone was 60% the player TO was, getting rid of him wouldn't even be discussed
Comparing them is insulting to TO. TO is a Hall of Famer.
by J-Nasty on Jan 20, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
All I have to say is that when an owner says something, the opposite happens
Pat Bowlen on Josh McDaniels
Bud Adams on Jeff Fisher
Just saying
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YES!
I think it’s a good thing that Jeremy Kerley isn’t gonna be our no.1 WR. He’s good but that is a dreadful WR core if he’s number 1.
The Jets will win the Super Bowl one day and that will be the day i laugh in your face if your not a Jets fan.
what
YES!
I think it’s a good thing that Jeremy Kerley isn’t gonna be our no.1 WR. He’s good but that is a dreadful WR core if he’s number 1.
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Your statement was right on
“I usually cringe when I listen to owners talk about their teams, normally they are the “money” but really don’t know a great deal about the day to day events of the team."
That’s exactly what this is. Woody has too much money tied up in “Tone time” to do anything but sugar coat it for us. The Cap hit would also be too much to take and then we’d have to have a replacement at the postion, which would cost more. No, go get Braylon and even if Tone pouts all year while riding the pine, at least we have one receiver opposite Kurley.
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