The Future Of The Jets After This Off Season
by tinley24 on Jan 18, 2012 10:21 PM EST
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As usual i was searching through draft porspects , mocks etc when i had an idea about the future of this team . The question i asked myself was " after this off season how will we be looking cap wise going into the future "
I checked the wonderful nyjetscap.com and found something very disturbing as regards to what lies ahead of us after next season . Next year some big contracts come into effect but for the first time in years we have a get out of jail card , because cutting some of these guys will save us a tonne of money in cap space and would easily make us one of the main players in FA when it comes along . But how will this affect our draft this year ?
The players that i think are not giving the team and fans value for money regarding their performances for their big pay check are as follows
He is due to earn a massive 12.5m in 2013 . Now after this season where he has quit on is team mates does he deserve this money ? Cutting him this year doesn't make financial sense but with that contract i think unless he redeems himself with the coaches , his team mates and more importantly the fans i think he could be surplus to requirement . Cutting him in 2013 will save the team a massive 8.75m with 3.75m in dead money .
Is he worth cutting ?
Cro is another big earner in 2013 with a massive 10.75m due to fall his way . He had a decent season and has stayed out of the limelight but is he really worth that ammount of money ? I mean Revis is only due to make 9m .Cutting him will save us 8.25m in cap with 2.5m in dead money
It just gets worse when you hear Pace is due to earn 11.57m in 2013 . If he was giving us 15 sacks a season fine but if we are honest , he isn't worth half of that contract . Cutting Pace will save us 8.56m in cap with 3m in dead money . Can we realisticly keep him on the team at this price and his age ?
Another guy who i don't think is worthy of his 8.65m contract he is due to earn in 2013 . He is getting up there in age and in now only a 2 down player at best . Cutting him will save us 7.15m in cap with 1.5m in dead money . Another guy who should be on the chopping block after this season ? i think so
Sanchez is due to earn 8.5m in 2013 and although not a massive contract compared to his previous years pay checks but if he is still not proven himself to be the QB we want him to be ,why pay him this much money ? If we cut him we can save ourselves 6m in cap with 2.5m in dead money . If he has a great or even an improved season he would be worth keeping but if we decide to go another route at QB then the 6m cap saving would come in very usefull
If the unbelievable happens and Wayne Hunter is still a member of this team going into 2013 he will cost us 4m in cap . I fully expect him to be gone this year but cutting him next year will save the team 4m with no dead money . a no brainer if he is still on this team
Another guy who i think has played himself out of a job this year . If Rex still loves him and keeps him for another year he will earn 3m going into the 2013 season . Can we really give a guy like Smith 3m for his play? no way . he need to be cut this year but if he is still around we need him gone rather than hand over 3m and a roster spot to this guy
I just was wondering what you guys think of the above contracts going into the next off season? Some of them are gonna kill this team and keep us in a position where we have to skrimp and save by looking for guys to restructure , signing low cost FA's etc etc .
Cutting all these guys will save us an amazing 46m+ in cap space . Just think what we could do in FA with that type of cap space . I'm not advocating we cut all of these players but it is inertesting to know where are cap lies going into the future and how dirrerent our team could look in 2013 .
Do you think the salaries or any of the above players will have an impact on how the team will approach this draft ? If history has anything to go bye then i would say yes . Will Tanny look at this years draft differently knowing how much he can save by cutting some of the above players ? Again i think yes.
Tanny as we all know is an accountant and looking at the ammount of money we could ponentialy save is going to make him want to draft players this year that would fill any holes left with players he could cut next year .
Tanny has been caught with his pants down last off season so i don't expect a repeat performance anytime soon . He will look at all the above player and their value/saving to this team and will want to have players ready to step in to replace them for the most part. He is not going to be able to do this through FA this off season so the draft is where he will look to bring players in as cheaper alternatives to the guys earning massive money . Having a year to learn will also help the team more if those highly paid players are sent packing so i expect to see some of these guys replacements drafted this year . After all we could possibly have 10 draft picks this year , so this would seem like the right time to do it . If i was GM that's what i would do .
I hope this post might make thing clearer for people going into the draft this year and the potential this team has to save money going into the futuure , leaving behind the off seasons where we don't have room to bid for that prized FA guy who can edge us over the line .
Thank for reading guys ,any feedback would be great ......Cheers
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it is very typical of tanny to look forward one year. however, we have needs that have to be filled now. it does happen to be that fa’s in 2013 are also needs now. hopefully this means we will definetly get a olb and a saftey. hope he doesn’t avoid wr because we don’t have a fa there in 2013. i know it sounds rediculous, but with tanny, you don’t know.
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You do realize that by cutting these guys we would lose money overall right?
And future? Damnit we will win the Super Bowl next year. Rex guarentees it.
Just kidding.
The Jets will win the Super Bowl one day and that will be the day i laugh in your face if your not a Jets fan.
hoe do we lose money exactly ?
pace ,smith, sanchez and hunter are all in the last year of their contracts scott is in his 2nd last year
only cro and holmes have longer deals .
the only money its costs us is the dead money and all their replacements can be signed cheaper
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Cromartie stays! He is good. He just doesn't look as good next to Revis.
We are not cutting him unless he has a melt down. Pace and Scott are gone. Hunter and Smith may be gone sooner. Holmes is the big question mark. Big question mark.
Oh and Sanchez, likely will play out his contract
by CervezaVerde on Jan 19, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
you could be right
i just see next year as a perfect opportunity for tanny to get the cap under control once and for all . there will be casualties from that list
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I gave casualties. I just said no on Cro and Sanchez.
Cro is actually good and has been part of two good years of Jets pass D. Sanchez is just tied to Rex and Tanny and if he goes down, one of them might too.
by CervezaVerde on Jan 19, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
You do realize Cro was one of the best corners in the league this season.
Why would you even think of getting rid of him?
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you misunderstand
i’m not saying we should cut any of the above players , i’m simply pointing out the players who might be earning more than they deserve and how we could potentially save cap by cutting them .
the reason i think the team might look at cutting CRO is because
1 he will earn 10.75 m
2 he will earn more than Revis , and
3 Wilson might be good enough to take over at a fraction of the cost
these are questions that a good GM should be asking , and it was for those reasons i included CRO in the list
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speaking of wilson
i really like wilson, i saw a stat today that made me curious:
he was targeted 60 times this year. of those 60 targets, 40 of them were receptions… that’s 67.7% (3rd worst in nfl for corners with enough targets)
any comment on this? i was confused
Well they chalked it up to the fact that he was covering the slot
so he didn’t have sideline help. And he was playing along side Revis and Cro who are two of the best. So he was targeted more.
by CervezaVerde on Jan 19, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
I Disagree
He doesn’t fit Rex’s playing style, he refuses to play press coverage, where he had his greatest success with SD, and due to his size, he should get great at it. He can’t tackle. He can’t cover shorter, quicker receivers. He’s an effing pussy and the sooner he’s off the team the better.
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interesting post
i love the draft and salary cap stuff also
my two cents:
- keep cro till his contract expires. he’s gooooood
- cut pace after the upcoming season (obviously draft a olb this year, start him and pace, see if we can develop maybin into an every down player also)
- cut bart after this upcoming season. it’s not absolutely necessary to find a replacement for him in this years draft. we can either draft someone the next draft or get a FA (patrick willis is a UFA after this upcoming season hahaha how sick and unrealistic would that be?!?!)
- keep sanchez. see if he’ll take a pay cut. not restructure, just straight up take a pay cut. he doesn’t deserve all that money and he should be a good team player about it
- cut hunter and smith… then release them once they’re dead
patrick willis is a UFA after this upcoming season hahaha how sick and unrealistic would that be?!?!
for the 1st time in many year we could afford players like Willis in FA if we cut some of those players . that type of move and other big moves like that could be more realistic than you think.
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i want jeffery in green at pick 16
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yea but come on
there’s no reason to believe that the 49ers will be worse next year. even if they are, as long as they don’t completely fall off, they’re still guaranteed a home playoff game due to the division they play in. so if they are contenders again, why will they then let their best player and the best inside linebacker in the league (one of the best linebackers in the league) walk? there’s no way they will let him go elsewhere. they will franchise him, give him 99 virgins, and get the man paid
i agree
my point is more to do with the calibre of FA we can go after with the extra cap room ( something we couldn’t do over the last few years ) . every team won’t be able to keep all their elite players every off season so we should be contenders when it comes to signing these types of guys
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The Jets are in Pretty good Cap Shape in 2013
1. The ability to push some money into 2013, helps the cap flexability of 2012. The Jets can easily restructure Sanchez and Brick creating cap breathing room in 2012, having a minimum effect in 2013.
2. This year 2012 is Holmes contract year, if the same stuff continues, SH is cut immediatly in 2013 the gravey train stops. If Mr. Holmes wants to know how fast a Receivers market value can plummet, call Braylon. I am going to predict that Mr. Holmes will have a Pro Bowl year in 2012 and have great chemistry Mr. Sanchez.
3. Pace, money and age dictates that we draft big time at the OLB position. Strongly advocate double dipping with two premium picks at OLB
Great Post And Points rec'd
Unfortunately, I have zero faith in Tanny to make the right moves. He may draft replacements for some of them this year, but may not address others. That has been his pattern. He has ignored certain positions or units on the team, and seems more interested in making a big splash getting a marquee player, than finding good, solid, dependable players to upgrade many positions.
I think every one of the players you listed should no longer be on the roster in 2013. They’re all way overpaid and underperform. The problem is that even with 10 or 11 picks (if Tanny does the unthinkable and actually trades down) and the cap space to sign 2-3 players possibly, I don’t think all of those positions can adequately be addressed as well as the other holes on the team.
Tanny likes to renegotiate and restructure deals rather than cutting players, and the times that he doesn’t bring back or releases players, it’s often puzzling. Howard Green played a very productive role on the Jets’ DL a couple of seasons ago. GB brought him in and he was productive for them. I think Coleman and Ihedigbo would have made the team a little better last season and given them better ability to blitz and made their STs coverage tighter.
I no longer have any long term hopes for this franchise with Tanny as the GM, and unless Rex makes some desperately needed changes in his approach and philosophy in 2012, will think the same way about him. He is starting to look more and more like a stupid, loud-mouthed putz who just doesn’t get it..
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totally agree with your points on Tanny
i also agree that if we cut all these players next year they would leave holes but the difference is that we would have lots of cap room to replace them .
eg if we can draft 2 olb’s this year and cut pace and sanchez , then we could use the money to sign Matt Schaub who is a FA next year.
just think what players we could potential sign in FA next year with an extra 40m in cap
2013 free agents
QB Matt Schaub
RB Maurice Jones-Drew , Michael Turner
WR Calvin Johnson , Greg Jennings , Victor Cruz
and other guys like Osi Umenyiora ,Mathias Kiwanuka , Richard Seymour and Patrick Willis
thats a lot of talent we can try and sign to make losing some of those over paid guys easier
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unrealistic
only problem with all the players you mentioned tinley is that their respective teams are not going to just let them go, some of these guys are top 5 at their position. It is ridiculously unrealistic. I enjoyed the post about cap space and cutting certain players though
well from the above list
cruz , Umenyiora and Kiwanuka are all UFA’s and they can only tag one guy so the other 2 are possible .
the list is really just to show the players we could be missing out on . i think most guys will be back with their old team but at least we would have room to grab some big FA going forward
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i want jeffery in green at pick 16
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Date:Sept. 1, 2012
Location:Dublin, Ireland
you coming to london jj ?
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Location:Dublin, Ireland
Good Post...
… A good GM must have foresight, and if these items are ignored the team becomes bad quickly. This article shows how many players will be trying to justify their salaries in 2013. That tells me to expect maximum effort as unfortunately many NFL players are motivated by the almighty dollar
I feel the best teams are built through the draft, and to not take the salary/age of players into consideration is poor planning. Free Agency is the place to add missing pieces. In this teams case the problems were glaring at RT and S so that should be dealt with first. If the team has the luxury to go further then they can address the next level of needs at OLB,TE,WR,QB and K.
Was Gonna Rec Your Response
Until I read that you think that RT and S should be addressed before OLB. If you were talking about addressing the RT and S positions in FA rather than the draft, then I’ll still rec your post.
Teams should be built through the draft, NOT FA as Tanny is trying to do. As you say, FA should be to improve depth and add missing pieces.
We’ll see how much foresight Tanny has this year with the moves he makes in FA and the draft. If he tries to make his normal big splash in FA or by trading up in the draft, then we’ll know he is not the answer at GM and must go. Hopefully, he’ll pull his head out of his ass, get over himself and do what is best for the team by signing McKenzie or Gaither at RT and one of Griffin, Nelson or Goldston at S if they can afford both. If they have additional FA money, then hopefully they can add a TE like John Carlson. I hope he won’t restructure any more contracts, thus guaranteeing future salary or increasing their salary to the point that he is tieing the team’s hands with regard to being able to cut players next season.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Alexander Tyler
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