Greg McElroy: Stay or Go?
by John B on Jan 18, 2012 2:44 PM EST
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In a different world, Mark Sanchez would have proven beyond any doubt that he is the franchise quarterback for the Jets. Greg McElroy would be ready to slide in and claim the backup job next year. The Jets would try and develop McElroy into an insurance policy in case anything happened to Sanchez and eventually trade him for a nice return before he hit free agency.
That is not where the Jets find themselves, however. Sanchez has not asserted himself. At the very least, the Jets are going to need to bring in somebody to challenge him for the starting job. They need somebody who can push Sanchez and who can be trusted to play well if Mark is not up to the task. A seventh round second year guy who spent his rookie season on IR is not exactly a threat.
For what it is worth, McElroy played pretty well in preseason for the Jets last year. That is not worth much, though. He was playing against backups and unsophisticated defenses. He did what you would expect a third stringer to do, struggle against second stringers, play well against third stringers, and play great against fourth stringers. Hopefully he hit the weights hard during his rookie year. He needs to develop a lot more upper body strength to add some zip to his throws. He looked a lot smaller than anybody else on the field during the preseason.
For his part, Greg had pretty much every cliche you would want from a quarterback when the Jets took him. He was accurate in college. He played really well in some pressure spots at a big time program. He was a leader and a winner. Will he ever be a player in the NFL? Probably not, but those are the attributes the few late round quarterbacks who do develop into good players tend to have.
At the very least, he has earned the chance to compete for the third quarterback spot against whatever competition the Jets have. If he really, really lights it up, he deserves a chance to play for the starting job. The quarterback job should be an open competition. Finances are not an issue. The Jets would save less than $400,000 cutting him.
I vote stay. How do you vote?
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He will be brought back.
Preseason may not be the best way to gauge talent but he seemed to play a lot better than his 7th round status would indicate.
by ArunK on Jan 18, 2012 2:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Let him prove himself
The Jets drafted him to be a backup ,dont waste a pick so he should at least be around for another season and let’s see how he reacts to the heat he’s gonna get from the media and some fans…. I have a feeling he will rise like a leader can.
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Stay
No reason to give up on him now unless we bring in another guy who bumps him off the roster. His profile is nearly ideal- son of a former player, very intelligent, accurate, a winner, plays within himself, started nearly 30 games in college. He has a lot of traits that would put most in the franchise category… if he actually had NFL size and arm strength.
He is a very smart guy and did not look bad in the preseason.
Hopefully he gives Sanchez a run for his money.
Not smart enough to keep his mouth shut.Unproven 4th string QB's should be seen and not heard.
by Putnan Prince on Jan 18, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
why u jumping down on Him
Look, even LT has said that the whole and full cause of the JETS current problems is Because of REX and Tanny..so u can’t come down on a player for doing what the FO was telling the players was the RIGHT WAY of How the JETS shall be and act!!!…REX and FO has caused this end of season Bull Crap!!!!
I was quite surprised in reading that LT is blamming the WHOLE OL not Just 1 Player as most in here are doing..and LT also see;s that Sanchez is Pampered….If He see;s that then U know many others player;s on team see it….
How much in Bonus checks did Sanchez play cause the REC;s too lose?
I dont blame any player to come out and say what there saying..REX as said has caused this turmoil and He Protects 1 player..where-as He should be standing up for ALL HIS Player;s not JUST a Pampered QB….
I see HOLMES leaving and who gets hurt? JETS do because of His Guarnteed Income and CAP HIT!!!!..between Holmes and Scott, that is well close to 11 plus Millions Woody has to eat!!!!
REX wont bring in a QB to challenge Sanchez…he hasnt done it for past 3yrs so why change…Sanchez needed a Challenge since day#1….He knows no matter how Many bad plays He makes He will never be Taken out of the Game!!!!…and other players know that and it hurts the Teams over-all playing…
stay
cant hurt to at least develop him
by NJ Champ on Jan 18, 2012 2:57 PM EST via Android app reply actions
The question shouldn't even be asked!
How any one can say McElroy ‘probably’ won’t be an NFL ‘player’ at this point is beyond comprehension. Give him a full preseason. Give him reps with the starters. Give him playing time during the regular season with the starters and against the opposition’s first-stringers and see what happens. Give him a fair shot at the position now that Sanchez regressed somewhat this season. Any other kind of assessment is ridiculous.
How any one can say McElroy ‘probably’ won’t be an NFL ‘player’ at this point is beyond comprehension
There are many quarterbacks who play in the NFL. No more than 10-15 at a time are good quarterbacks. Odds are just about any quarterback you find will probably not be good based on that percentage. That’s not “beyond comprehension.” It’s reality.
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But probably close to half the starting QBs in the NFL have defied the odds. The odds makers really aren’t very good.
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I dunno
1st round: Sanchez, Flacco, Roethlisberger, Gabbert, P. Manning, Rivers, Palmer, Tebow, E. Manning, Vick, Grossman, Rodgers, Stafford, Cutler, Ponder, Ryan, Newton, Freeman, Smith, Bradford.
2nd round: Dalton, Brees (though he was picked 32, which would be a first round pick today), Kolb, T-Jack
3rd round: Schaub, McCoy
4th round: Orton
6th round: Hasselbeck, Brady
UDFA: Romo, Fitzpatrick, Moore
I’d say most of your QBs come from the early rounds, with only really 3 good players coming after round 4. The fact is, the vast majority of your QB pool will come from the early pool with elite projectable talent. A guy like McElroy, 7th rounder who lacks the physical tools, doesn’t pan out very often… you might get lucky and strike gold, but most likely you won’t and spending time hoping he’ll be the guy might not be the most efficient use.
by J-Nasty on Jan 18, 2012 6:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I meant in history
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Still I would say anything 3rd round or later defying the odds...
and my point being is it happens quite regularly.
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Highly disagree
There’s a HUGE difference between a 3rd rounder and a 7th rounder.
by J-Nasty on Jan 18, 2012 7:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Every other position no question, but QB not so much...
there is a HUGE difference between a 1st and 3rd rounder speciffically at QB which is the biggest reach position, I would say even more than a 3rd and 7th rounder. QBs are over drafted, this is a known fact, but some drop for silly reasons the pre draft grades of a 3rd round QB and a 7th rounder are usually quite close.
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A hungry rookie
With a lot to prove, with a chip on his shoulder, a 7th round pick might have enough drive to add a little competition for the starting role. I know we want to bring in an Orton or similar ex-starter to challenge Sanchez to grow, but do we have to pay the $1MM min pricetag for a big name backup or can McElroy get it done?
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Big, big stay
He’s not the answer this year, but he’s smart, driven, works hard, is a proven winner and leader, and will be ready if/when his time comes. Hopefully he’s working on arm strength and mobility, but he’s one guy who’s confident and who won’t be overmatched mentally.
Anyone else remember all the McElroy – Tom Brady comparisons around the draft?
Gotta STAY
we just picked him up last year, he had a good pre-season and then IR, he needs a honest chance to prove something , maybe even take the riegns from Sanchez
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by Exystence on Jan 18, 2012 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
stay
in his limited preseason playing time hes done well,so he should stay until he proves otherwise.
Stay and split their snaps 50/50
I want Sanchez to know from jump street that aint squat guaranteed this year.
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McElroy will be our starter
If given a fair shot. Greg will be our starter. He is a winner.
So is sanchez....
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by jets4life24 on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Stay
Till he proves whether he can play or not.
I really don’t care at all about the talk. I don’t even care about Santonio’s talk. All I care about is results on the field.
by Exystence on Jan 18, 2012 3:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Agree...
although its way to early for everyone to be dubbing him the starter or a failure at this point, kid deserves a chance until he shows he can’t play.
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Greg's mentioning brings up an interesting point i have been mulling over and over.
Mark has shown regression this year which has lead to whispers of the team bringing in a QB in hopes that the “New Guy” will challenge Sanchez to be better.
Now if the coaching staff is thinking the same thing and the end result is only to apply pressure on Mark- why not just declare a “competition” of sorts in camp and split reps between Greg and Mark?
If it’s only about Mark being put in an uncomfortable place on the team then why waste the money on a Henne or some other weak ass we know is inferior?
A competitive environment can be created in almost any instance with the tools the team already has.
Greg has ability and accuracy to challenge Mark and more than enough intangables to piss off Mark and evoke some sort of reaction. Why does it need to cost the team money?
I don't see how Greg can be given that sort of respect yet...
he’s a 7th round pick with no NFL experience, that most scouts believe does not have an NFL arm, now many have proved the scouts wrong, but I would prefer we bring in someone else as well, like a Gerrard, to be a more legit push to Sanchez.
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during the preseason
I do believe this 7th round pick had the best passer rating of all rookies. So, he can’t throw the ball 40 yds. He would’ve done great this year with the dink and dunk offense we had. At least he has touch on his short passes. I say we keep him and have him compete with sanchez. He can share his wits and push sanchez to be more accurate
by revis24fan on Jan 18, 2012 11:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't put much stock in that...
(the pre-season that is) look at Brett Ratliff he was our best preseason QB three years ago, what has he done since (traded and cut)
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David Clowney was beasting people in preseason...
How did he do in the regular season? If we want to push Sanchez we need to get someone else. This would be like having Harrison Ford and a guy who got really good reviews in his high school play audition for the same role with the hopes that it will push Harrison Ford to give a better performance.
by RhodesRocks on Jan 19, 2012 8:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not really my point.
If the teams faith is still behind Mark then the only “sort of respect” I’m talking about Mark’s.
Mark needs to be told that he’s not pulling his weight and that everyone is back at square one. Greg can make the throws in camp that will get the rest of the teams attention in a slpit rep setup. The team is also divided over QB play so there will be a defined line that Mark will have to cross with his play.
He will have to earn the respect of some teammates reguardless. The hostile environment is all ready there. Thats really my point.
My one worry is if he totally caves under the pressure. It’s unlikely but if it were to happen then I agree with that you said. Bringing in a FA as a fall back plan might have to be done. But I don’t think it would push Sanchez any harder at the outset.
But...
my point is I dont think anyone will take that seriously because of who he is/where he is at. Now you bring in a Gerrard or someone and thats more of a threat.
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wasnt brady a late round pick?????????
i think this kid has what it takes to take us to the promise land with the ground and pound being back
Cutting him makes no sense IMO
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I say stay, BUT...
I wouldn’t mind terribly if he went, just so people stopped clamoring for a career third stringer who missed his rookie season after going down almost immediately to take over the reigns for Sanchez.
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If McElroy really is Pennington with better arm then he should start in 2012
But seriously, I think the kid has lot more promise than some of the QB’s picked in first 3 rounds. I also like that he has some spunk. I for one think that he sounds more like a leader in his rookie year than “Sanchise” in his third…..
Agreed.
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by ProfScorpio on Jan 19, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
I gave McElroy the same grade...
…as T.J. Yates, Andy Dalton, and Ricky Stanzi. I think he’s worth the roster spot.
And to me thats more an inditment of Brunell and the front office than Sanchez...
I think we often forget Sanchez still only 25, and technically coming off of what should have been his rookie season (not 3rd) McElroy is only a year younger. A better and more competant veteran should have been brought in from the very start.
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This kid is good
He is a bit undersized, dosen’t have a canon , but he is very smart and comes from a winning pedigree. The kid is a winner and is also a very accurate passer. He is better than Clements was. I think he can be developed into a starter some day. But, we need to bring in a backup that can push Sanchez in camp for his starting spot. McElroy should be a third QB for now. Hopefully the Jets can bring in Garrard or Campbell. as a backup.
get rid of him, get rid of LT. no room for dissension….if all the other players can learn to keep their mouths shut about dirty laundry in the locker room why can’t these two?
Sparano = Super Bowl. Just waiting for Rex to confirm it.
Yeah, I agree, I heard LT talking about 'there was nothing left for the players to do'...
bs, play better.
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