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The case for Chad Pennington as backup QB

This was a comment on a previous post but it was a late entry

Chad Pennington has the record for the all time highest NFL completion % and who could be a better player-coach for Mark and McElroy. In many ways his game is similar to Mark, so he can understand Mark’s thought process. Plus he is a QB who would not cause us to quake in fear if he had to come into a game. He also has a connection to the Jets and our new OC. He would command instant respect and be a leader in the locker room.

Pennington is perfect, and there will be no hint of a QB controversy. He mentored Henne in Miami.

Pennington explained his philosophy.
"It doesn’t necessarily have to be a 40-yard throw down the field. It can be short or intermediate throws that turn into chunk plays," he said. "Coach (Sparano) recognizes the importance of chunk plays. It allows your offense to breathe a little bit and have more success. In the NFL you can’t methodically move the ball down the field every drive. You need chunk plays to make it a little easier."

"I watched the Jets a little bit on and off this season," he said. "I think the biggest thing for Mark is to use 2011 as a learning experience, really dive into the film this offseason. Learn from the film and just focus totally on the film and the work at hand, and use the year as a steppingstone to getting better. That’s the No. 1 key. You can’t just erase it and move away from it."


Pennington also put on his QB’s hat to remind fans of something else he thinks is important for Sanchez.

"You’ve got to remember he only played one year of college ball as a starter. He’s a young guy, only in his third year in the league. He never had the chance to make mistakes behind closed doors. He’s always been out in front of everybody because he’s been the starter. He must get better and mature. I just think it’s a matter of time. The ball’s in his court."

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He should be in the mix

At 35, he could easily step in if Sanchez went down with injury and ultimately he could become an effective QB coach down the line.

by kernowjet on Jan 17, 2012 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

?? Health ??

Let’s assume the guy is healthy, big if… He may be part of the discussion because of the price of Back up QB’s.. There are a few holes in the Jet Roster, and spending 4 million on a backup is very tough.. CP is a better alternative than Brunell but he doesn’t push Sanchez… So if he’s healthy, and can play for 2 million a year, maybe …

by JetOrange on Jan 17, 2012 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

He has had more then a year to recover from his injuries

and he always bounces back well. Twice NFL comeback player of the year. He will not be starting and will, with any luck, never appear in a game, I hope McElroy. is good enough to be #2 QB, and will be the one pushing Mark. Remember CP acted as #3 in Miami after Henne ans Thyping(?) so being a #3 with us would not be a problem. But he is also good enough to act as our #2 if McElroy is not up to the task.

by viguy007 on Jan 17, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually,

Pennington tore his ACL last spring during the lockout.

More of Moore in 2012!

Coples for our new 4-3!

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by joel311 on Jan 17, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting thought...

Although him being healthy and in shape is a big ‘if’. I seriously doubt this happens.

by mangold'sbeard on Jan 17, 2012 10:07 AM EST reply actions  

*sigh*, QB coach at most.

I don’t want a backup QB (Like Brunell) who you can’t trust to complete a quarter much less a game, hell I wouldn’t trust Pennington throwing in practice. His shoulder tendons are like cheese on a pizza at this point. They’ll just stretch and get droopy then snap off.

by Timmaht on Jan 17, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

You Guys

are absolutely nuts!!! I cannot believe that 75% of those who voted, voted yes. There is NO case for Chad being the backup. He is done. He’s dumb if he ever suits up again. I loved Chad when he was here, but he has zero arm strength any more and he’s fragile as an eggshell. He’s never coached before, so we don’t even know what kind of coach he’d make. You guys need to let go of Chad.

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by joeklecko on Jan 17, 2012 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

Wow is all I have to say to that

Some of you guys are all heart and no head.

I love Chadwick, but I am going to vote no on this one.

by NikolaiC on Jan 17, 2012 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

Your right, but it may be a dollar thing, and how commited the Jets are to mentoring

Do you challenge Sanchez with a competent backup, or do you change mentors for a QB going into his fouth year ? If a competent backup cost 4 million, then maybe CP and Kellen clemens are options

by JetOrange on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I think, in theory, he might make a decent coach.

BUT like someone said above, he’s unproven, and that’s not what Sanchez needs right now. If you want to bring him in as a “consultant” and see if he has anything useful to add, I say fine.

But, given the “coaching up” that Sanchez has seemingly missed out on these past couple years – whether it was because the staff focused on gimmicks (color coding, buzzers, etc.), they were getting Sanchez to play not to lose, or because they were just being buddies – I think you need to give him ONE guy who is really good. Someone like a Haley or a Clements who will give him a particular message and set of tools and then impose discipline in sticking to that. It’s harder than it sounds to break a QB down and start over. It would’ve been better if Sanchez hadn’t picked up bad habits in the first place. But he has experience now and, if the bad can be undone, you have a shot. But the QB coach has to have tons of experience and be firm and disciplined. I don’t think Chad can step into that role.

by MiaJets on Jan 17, 2012 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

How about we sign Chad as a Coach to work with Sanchez

to play at 4 m dollars, not where I want to see half of our cap room going.

Chadwick is the man. If he does retire, it should be as a Jet

The only contract I would offer Chad is the one day kind where he retires and takes an office as a Jets Coach.

I don’t think Chad sees that in his cards. He would rather be a NFL analyst and make a lot of money

by NikolaiC on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

Let him Coach

He shouldn’t be the #3 behind a guy that got killed last year, and a guy that didn’t play due to injury. Chad would be a great QB coach, nothing more.

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by jetsbill on Jan 17, 2012 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

i voted yes but if maybe was an option i would have voted for that

there are positive and negative things to this move
POSITIVES
cost
played for us before
played for our new OC
if healthy could be a decent game manager
could help our 2 young QB’s deal better with playing in new york

NEGATIVES
old
health issues ( made of glass )
team moving backwards instead of forward
no know coaching ability

i’m sure lots of thing would need to go wrong for this to happen but i wouldn’t rule it out

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by tinley24 on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

I love Pennington, but come on, it's time the Jets really step it up at backup QB.

You don’t want Brunell because he’s old, not very good at this stage, and isn’t a legitimate push to Sanchez.. His role is to mentor him.

You want to replace him with another old QB, who has health concerns, and isn’t a legitimate push to Sanchez? His role would be to mentor him.

That sounds too similar of the position NYJ is in right now. Sanchez doesn’t need more mentoring, he needs someone that is a legitimate threat to his job security. If he works best under pressure, put pressure on his job security. Look for Kyle Orton, Vince Young, Chad Henne, or any mid-tier QB that can push him. Look for a potential 2nd round or 3rd round QB in the draft. Just don’t go looking for more of the same. You hope to mentor Sanchez and keep on hoping he improves, you’ll be disappointed to find that your veteran backup QB retired, Sanchez was found not to be the answer, and you’re left without a QB. I am a firm believer in “hope for the best, prepare for the worst.” The Jets need to look for someone that can take over if Sanchez fails. If they think that is McElroy, then fine. If not, they need to find a legitimate #2 QB that can be a #1 QB if needed.

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by Finhead83 on Jan 17, 2012 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

Um, no

There is no point going into a season with major health issues with your backup QB. I don’t even know is Pennington is capable of being “healthy” at this point. I loved him when he was here, but there are much better backup option.

As for QB coach, I would certainly prefer Pennington to Cavanaugh (I’d prefer a ball of wet lint to Cavanaugh). But I’m not sure he is the right fit for Sanchez.

I disagree that Sanchez and Pennington have similar games. Pennington definitely had a weak arm. But he had accuracy and touch on his short passes.

Sanchez lacks touch on the short passes. But he can throw it down the field.

IMO, the model for Sanchez should be Tebow against the Steelers: Run the ball. Run it again and again. Then burn the defense deep.

Sanchez should be throwing it half as much but twice as far. That isn’t Pennington’s “chunk” model.

by square1 on Jan 17, 2012 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

I voted yes

Chad Pennington embodies everything that is needed out of a quarterback. He is a leader, he is a professional, he is a team player, he doesn’t mind being a back up and mentoring, he is a big time student of the game. What he is not, is a starting quarterback. The Jets have Sanchez and McElroy who was drafted to be the career #2 for Sanchez anyway.

Some of you say he’s washed up, or he’s brittle. To that I say so what? Since when do you have to worry the health of a #3 QB. he is only needed in case of extreme emergency. Other than that, he provides season long stability at the position.

I was listening to a radio talk show the other day. They had Anthony Becht on. He used to play TE for the Jets if you forgot about him. They asked him who’s the best quarterback he ever played with as far as being a leader of a football team. He said hands down it was Chad Pennington. Mind you he’s played with Kurt Warner, Marc Bulger, Jeff Garcia, Brian Griese, and Kevin Kolb. He says none of them commands a team like Chad Pennington.

The good thing is that he doesn’t need to be the #2 guy. He can have just as much of an impact being the #3 QB. In my mind if he wants to play for a vet minimum, it’s a no brainer. Him in Sanchez’s ear all year long alone is worth a contract.

by manuvsteal on Jan 17, 2012 12:15 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I voted no as a back-up.....but

I think he could be a combination #3 and QB Coach. In that scenario he would be a cheap fix as a mentor and a last resort to play if the other two are injured. He would also replace Cavanagh so you kill two birds with one stone. There were too many peolple telling Sanchez what to do Rex, Schotty, Brunell and Cavanagh. Get rid of Brunell & Cavanaugh and replace with Chad.

by NYCKID on Jan 17, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

No way,

Pennington needs to be Miami’s backup.

More of Moore in 2012!

Coples for our new 4-3!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Jan 17, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

We need a viable QB to back up Sanchez

Chad is on my favorite athletes of all time, but he isnt the answer. I would prefer he comes in as the QB coach if interested. I really hope Chad is done as a player, I dont want to see this guy getting hurt.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 17, 2012 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

Hell no.

Keep Captain Checkdown away from my QB. Far away.

by Crackback on Jan 18, 2012 7:21 AM EST reply actions  

Captain Checkdown is your QB

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by YankeesJets on Jan 18, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't realize Sanchez could even do that much

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by Bro Namath on Jan 18, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Sanchez is gonna turn it around in 12......

…if they get a better player than Wayne Hunter to protect him. If not, we will see more of the same.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Type "noodle arm" into Google and see what the first result is

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by Bro Namath on Jan 18, 2012 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=noodle+arm

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by Bro Namath on Jan 18, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Spewing out random names of injured, old QB's for backups ( and even starting for some people ) isn't gonna fix our problems.

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by sanchise6 on Jan 18, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

Who doesn't love Pennington?

But his best days are likely behind him. I can’t argue putting him on the roster just to mentor Sanchez. If Sanchez needs a mentor, hire a mentor, a coach, a special assistant. But we need a viable back-up and Brunell really doesn’t have anything left while McElroy hasn’t had many opportunities to prove himself. Chad has had a lot of injuries over the years, recent too, and the real question is whether 2008 was indicative of what he can still bring to a team, or his last high water point?

As free agents are concerned, I would like to see more interest in Shaun Hill, if he can be parted from the Lions. He’s not a starter but close enough that Sanchez would have some off-season competition, and gave Detroit and San Francisco each respectable performances in recent years. He’s also four years younger than Chad… to me it reads as an opportunity to bring in a capable quarterback into the mix for possibly a couple years at low cost to bring out the best in Mark while we see what McElroy is capable of.

by NYisontop on Jan 19, 2012 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

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