An Evaluation of Every position on this team

by darshv3 on Jan 16, 2012 8:41 PM EST

Well, the only thing on our minds right now is what positions on this team are going to be modified, who's gonna be drafted, what we're doing in free agency, coaches, etc. So, let's take a look at every position on this team and see where we may need to build, what we have and whatnot. Keep in mind i'm not a huge expert on college ball.

Quarterback: I'm not going into detail about Sanchez, there are plenty of other places to talk about that here. It doesn't look like Brunell is gonna be back, and O'Connell may not either. It seems rather likely that the Jets will bring in a backup via free agency to push Sanchez, someone like Brady Quinn, Chad Henne, or Rex Grossman. I don't think we should draft one. A rookie wouldn't be enough to push him IMO.

Running Back: Personally I think we're just fine with Shonn Greene and Joe McKnight. A lot of people have mentioned Trent Richardson, but I say we don't go there. We led the league in rushing with Thomas Jones and Leon Washington, Shonn Greene and Joe Mcknight are like younger clones of them. A lot of you say Greene has no hands, but guess what, TJ caught 10 passes his last year with us. He's gotten better at pass protection too. Mcknight is kinda raw, but has plenty of potential to be a good third down back (we've already seen what he can do as a KR). Bilal powell is kinda a question mark right now. I don't see us bringing back LT. If we're gonna draft one, I say it should be a later round pick just to fill out the depth.

Wide Receiver: This one's interesting. As much as we all hate him right now Tone will be back. His contract is too big and he's a good player, we just need to get him back to form, and get Mark and him back on the same page again. I feel like Plaxico probably isn't gonna be back. He's been good in the red zone, and he had that circus catch in the buffalo game, but that's about it, his best days are behind him. Kerley looks like a real gem. I actually kinda like Patrick Turner, he did well whenever his number was called, though he apparently doesn't have the speed to get seperation consistently, hence why Miami dumped the 3rd round pick so early. Either way i'd like to see more of what he could do. Many people have mentioned bringing back Braylon. I'm not sure if he'd be the same Braylon as before with the knee surgery, but i wouldn't mind at all. We can't afford a Dwayne Bowe or Vincent Jackson so enough with that (and PLEASE no DJax, he's even worse of a diva than Tone). I've heard many people bring up drafting Jeffrey, which i'm not so sure about, I'll have a better opinion after the combine. There are also many names brought up for mid round picks such as Mohamed Sanu, Nick Toon, Tommy Streeter, Marvin Mcnutt and Brian Quick. I'm not sure what exactly to do with this position.

Tight end: Keller's great, but this may unfortunately be his last season with us, since he's a free agent in 2013. we'll be getting Cumberland back from injury too which is nice. We need a new blocking tight end, mulligan is a penalty machine. Nothing a late round draft pick can't solve. Oh, Josh Baker is nice too.

Center: Mangold, we're good. Hopefully we'll bring back Rob Turner to back him up.

Guard: Slauson is solid, and Moore is still good, though he's getting kinda old. Apparently some of the younger guys behind him are coming along nicely, so they may end up replacing him in time. Not a position that I think we really need to address yet.

Tackle: Brick had an awful year, but he's still a good player, we just need to get him back to form. Wayne hunter is awful. We need to replace him Somehow be it via free agency of the draft. I say we bring in a veteran free agent that we know can play. Vlad is still a question mark, but i'm hoping that he'll pan out eventually. Idk much about Austin Howard.

Defensive Line: Sione's a free agent, and I hope we bring him back for a couple more years. He's kinda old but he's a great player. Wilkerson did a great Job given the lockout, and i feel like he's gonna be nasty in time. I got no problems with Devito. Marcus Dixon is a good rotational player. Idk about Ropati, honestly i didn't pay much attention to him this year. Kenrick Ellis is a project player, I'm not sure what to make of him yet. The veterans say he'll be great someday. I think we'll be fine at this position

Inside linebacker: David Harris is a stud. Bart's best years are behind him, and now he's really only an adequate run stopper. Not good in pass coverage anymore. Supposedly he may be on the way out, but i think we should keep him for one more year, since getting rid of him would create an immediate area of need. I think we should get someone in the middle rounds to grow behind him for a year.

Outside linebacker: Pace is good at run stopping, but is way too slow now to be a pass rusher. Jamaal Westerman had his chance, but didn't prove that he's worth being the full time starter there for years to come. Same with Mcintyre. Bryan Thomas probably isn't gonna be back, and I think this is the position that we use our first round pick on. We may even wanna double dip. I like Courtney Upshaw. There are also names like Whitney Mercilus, Melvin Ingram, Ronnell Lewis, Vinny Curry, and Jarvis Jones. Don't even mention Mario Williams. Seriously, WAYYY too expensive. Maybin was a nice surprise, I say we bring him back and keep developing him. Also worth noting is that we're canning our old outside backers coach and replacing him with the guy that helped Maybin back on his feet. I guess the FO finally realized that our outside backers were underachieving.

Cornerback: This is the best position on our team. Revis is one of the best ever, Cromartie is a top 5 corner that really improved towards the end of the year (he's gotten better at tackling too, he forced a fumble out of C.J. Spiller), and Wilson's a very solid nickel. If anything we can draft someone in the later rounds to replace Strickland as a dime. Or we could move Quice up, he's done a nice job on Special teams.

Saftey: Free agents and ineptitude galore! Seriously, something has to change here. Eric smith is awful, but he'll probably be back, and he's good on special teams. I'd like to resign Jim Leonhard, he's a good player on our defense. The problem is that we need a good coverage saftey opposite Leonhard, which we just don't have (I feel like Pool isn't gonna be back). Lots of names have been brought up in free agency, and I think that's the right way to go. Not a lot of really good cover safeties in the draft. Something has to change here, especially if we wanna compete with the patsies.

Kicker: Folk misses all the easy kicks, yet he's made some really clutch ones. He doesn't have a real big leg either. It's worth at least bringing in some competition.

Punter:Draft one, seriously.

Long snapper: Tanner Purdum is fine.

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nice post buddy

i like lots of your idea’s
i think we should also maybe consider a punter in FA . jones SL and mcbrier DAL are both FA and would be massive upgrades over any drafted punter
bit disappointed you have no real plan for wr tho
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by tinley24 on Jan 16, 2012 9:21 PM EST reply actions

thanks

WR is really complicated though, since there are so many different directions we could go. Personally i’d like to see us draft Nick Toon (sentimentality, and he’s a good player).

by darshv3 on Jan 16, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions

i'm with you on the nick toon thing.

he’s got strong hands and is a blocking beast. He’s a bigger, better, and stronger Hines Ward

by manuvsteal on Jan 17, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions

Good Work

At QB, I agree that Brunell should be gone and would add that O’Connell should be too. He’s awful. I don’t like any of the vets you mention however. Quinn is a bust. He has a strong arm and that’s it. Grossman isn’t gonna push anyone, nor will Henne. The only advantage Henne would offer would be that at a minimum he’ll know Sparano’s terminology and basic philosophy. If Sparano uses the same or very similar offense, then he could help Sanchez and McElroy learn it, but he wouldn’t push Sanchez as some fans want. I really don’t think Sanchez needs pushing. I don’t think he’s lazy. He just needs better coaching and a better system tailored to the talents he has. He either will make it in Sparano’s system or he won’t, therefore I think the idea of a QB to push him is probably somewhat silly and will cost too much to get an Orton or Campbell as Tinley has said. Therefore, I’d go with Sage Rosenfels. He’s likely to be pretty cheap and would offer the same positives as Henne. Other possibilities would be Charlie Batch or Dennis Dixon.

At RB, I’m torn. While the likelihood I think is that the Jets need another RB, and Greene isn’t a first rate starting RB, I don’t think the Jets should use a high draft pick on one and doubt they can afford to add one in FA. I think what will happen is what the Jets think about Bilal Powell’s ability and whether they want LT (if he doesn’t retire). If they can sign a vet FA QB, RT and S, and still have money for a Michael Bush or Jason Snelling fine, but I doubt it, and besides, I’d rather have Braylon back at WR. If they can draft another in the 4th round or lower fine. I don’t think they can address, all their needs this year, however. They may have to wait until next year to address the RB position.

WR – I basically agree. I want Braylon back. I expect them to probably add a WR via the draft. Hopefully it won’t be in the first unless Justin Blackmon falls to them at #16.

TE – Again, I agree. Keller has trade value, drops too many passes and is a liability as a blocker. BS never really took advantage of the mismatches he supposedly creates. If Sparano uses him as he should be used, then he may stay, as he could be a big weapon. I’d really like to see Cumberland develop. The problem is that I can’t see the Jets keeping 4 TEs. Baker is pretty good, but would probably be the odd man out if they draft a blocking TE.

OT is definitely a need. Hopefully Hunter is gone.

OG could be addressed, but I agree that they’ll probably wait and see how Schlauderaff develops. Moore probably has 1-2 years left as a starter. Slauson could be upgraded. Again, I think this needs to wait until next year.

DL – set

ILB – Harris is very good but slow. Scott is slow, but still a fiery leader type, he does the dirty work without complaining and gets decent pressure at times. I don’t think they can afford to cut him this season and replace him. I look for that next year.

OLB – double-dipping is the ticket as the Jets need a starter opposite Pace this year and a replacement for Pace in 2013.

S – definite strong need. They need speed, athleticism and coverage ability first and foremost. He also needs to be pretty smart to play in Rex’s system. Pool should be gone. Smith is good in run support and as a backup, but not as a starter. Leonard, if he is recovered, QBs the D. They need him for another year or two while he mentors the youngsters. I’d love to see Michael Griffin and Markelle Martin added.

CB – I despise Cromartie but they can’t even think about replacing him this year. Wilson is improving. Cole is excellent on STs. Dunno whether Stickland will be back or not. He’s due to bounce back.

K – Folk needs to be replaced

P – Ditto for Conley

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by joeklecko on Jan 16, 2012 9:40 PM EST reply actions

I pretty much agree across the board

I dont watch college football so I have a question for anybody that does. Keller is a decent player but even he isnt like the top TEs we are now seeing in the NFL. Im talking guys like Gronk, Finley, Graham, Hernandez. My question is, are there any guys like that coming out in the draft?

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by YankeesJets on Jan 16, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions

Not this year but in 2013

We should take a long look at Tyler Eifert of Notre Dame and Jake Stoneburner of Ohio St. The only decent TE this year is Damon Allen and he’s comparatively short

by kernowjet on Jan 17, 2012 6:47 AM EST up reply actions

thanks for that i read the post and im like the guy from ND

now Ik his name

by ncquake24 on Jan 17, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions

all those you mentioned are great but are a product of their QB's

you put Keller with Rodgers, Brady, Brees and hell put up equivalent numbers.

Keller had 800 yards this year with a QB who many seem to think isnt any good.

by np3 on Jan 17, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions

I dont see them just as a product of their QBs

Of course it helps but they seem like a much tougher matchup. Finley is 6’5’’ 240, Gronk is 6’6’’ 265, Graham is 6’ 7" 265. Keller may match up with Hernandez but he isnt close to those other guys.

by YankeesJets on Jan 17, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions

that's why i like Jake Ballard whom is a UFA this year.

Ballard is listed at 6’6" 275lbs. the dude is like a light weight OT yet he can catch a ball real well. He might not be so fast but in a 2 or 3 TE set with Keller and Cumberland the D would have a problem. Keller could run a mid seam route,Cumberland could run the pick to clear it out on a corner route to the first down marker and, Ballard can run a 5 yrd drag. Then Sanchez has the option pre – snap with some motion to check it to a draw play or send the RB on a wheel,flat,etc,etc.

by JETSFAN IN SC on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions

Sage Rosenfels no thanks

Here’s the guy for the Jets to maybe push Sanchez, Drew Stanton yes. Stanton has got a rocket arm, in season game experience, very smart, as well as hell of an athlete, and the best thing is he’d come real cheap.

by JETSFAN IN SC on Jan 20, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions

I'm Not a fan of Rosenfels

Just think he might be helpful since he knows Sparano’s system and terminology and would be cheap. I don’t think Sanchez needs pushing, but just as importantly, I don’t think the team will have the cap space to sign anyone with a big name like Orton, Henne or Charlie Batch even. I actually prefer Dennis Dixon as he can play, is younger and should be pretty cheap, but he doesn’t know Sparano’s system.

by joeklecko on Jan 20, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions

My Take and Solutions

I’m putting draft options in Bold and Free Agents in Italics

Quarterback: Sanchez deserves at least one season under the regime but needs to be pushed. McElroy did ok in the last pre-season but cannot be counted on as a backup yet. I would sign BRADY QUINN to push Mark

Wide Receiver: Holmes is a disgrace and I hope there is some way we can remove his ass from the roster. We need to draft some of our own talented so I would drop back in the draft and take MOHAMED SANU at the bottom of Round 1. My premier free agent signing would be MARQUES COLSTON who the Saints may struggle to retain with both Brees and Nicks as free agents

Tight End: I agree about Keller. I think we will look towards someone like Jake Stoneburner or Tyler Eifert as a replacement in Round 2 next year but might get an extra body at the end of the 2012 draft

Running Back: I agree with you, but might look to add another back to the mix on Day3

Offensive Line: Four pieces are in place, with RT needing an upgrade. There are few upgrades in Free Agency so I think it will come from the draft – BOBBIE MASSIE, Levy Adcock or Matt Reynolds have have NCAA Division 1 experience. I can see us adding OL depth with our compensation picks.

Defensive Line: A nice starting 3 but need for better depth. I would draft DEREK WOLFE who can cost half the price we pay for Ropati and who has more pass rushing ability.

OLB: Pace has lost a step whilst Thomas, Westerman and Maybin are free agents. I would resign Maybin, draft VINNY CURRY in Round 2 and sign TREVOR SCOTT

ILB: Has Short anything left in the tank. If Jovan Belcher (RFA) is resigned by the Chiefs I would target DAN CONNOR of the Panthers who is the odd man out in their 4-3 defense but deserves to be a starter. I would also look on Day3 to take NATHAN STUPAR

CB: Not much to add here. Maybe use one of our compensatory picks on someone who slides

S: Urgent upgrade required. I’d target TYVON BRANCH at SS, and draft TRUMAINE JOHNSON to be a FS. I would draft MATT DANIELS, and resign Tracy Wilson. It needs to be out with the old in with the new.

Specials: Unless someone really stands out, I would not use a draft pick on a K or P but see what we can find in the undrafted ranks

by kernowjet on Jan 17, 2012 6:46 AM EST reply actions

Just looked at a couple nfl.com mock drafts

many of them have us getting david wilson. a few others include Nick Perry and Courtney Upshaw.

by darshv3 on Jan 17, 2012 8:39 AM EST reply actions

Misconception about D-jax _

DeSean Jackson really isn’t a diva. He isn’t a locker room cancer and none of his teammates have ever said anything bad about him. His performance dropped because he was afraid if he was injured he would be less likely to receive a contract…he wanted to sign last year but the eagles organization refused. The media blew it up to be bigger than it was. He does alot of great things off the field too…

However he isn’t really needed and would be a waste of money since the receivers aren’t getting much production from sanchez throwing the ball. A big target/ possession receiver to replace plax would be good. Sanchez could easily find a huge target on intermediate routes when the passing game is opens up.

The jets should sign Jason Campbell to push sanchez for the starting job….

by bitterlyhonest on Jan 17, 2012 1:17 PM EST reply actions

Really? It wasn't Meshawn?

I also look at a guy who was willing to under cut his team for a future contract with less than how shall I say it….Desire? As to Campbell, ok—but in no way do I want “Meshawn”. Give me Braylon and for a lot less salary cap hit.

by RonaldR on Jan 20, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions

When Was the Last Time

a player from ND made it big in the NFL? As far as I’m concerned they haven’t turned out a great player in 10 years or more. I’d be happy if the Jets didn’t even consider any of the ND players. I think you ND fans overvalue their players.

by joeklecko on Jan 17, 2012 4:32 PM EST reply actions

ah joe , i'm disappointed with you

i was going to do a write up about their safety Harrison Smith and him been a late round sleeper that could eventually take over for Leonard . oh well back to the drawing board lol

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by tinley24 on Jan 17, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions

Hey

I only saw one ND game this year. I could be wrong (it wouldn’t be the first time or the last). They could have some good prospects. More often than not recently, however, their players have been disappointing in the NFL.

by joeklecko on Jan 17, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions

well

they used to produce good talent. they just haven’t been good for a while.

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by rexthejet on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions

my theory

Qb- we’ll be ok with #2 mcelroy and #3 o’connell, RB- next year, WR-draft one and bring in a FA (braylon), TE-draft a blocking te in the late rounds, OL- FA right tackle is needed. on defense, DL-we’re good, ILB- late round pick, OLB- early pick and FA, CB- good, S- sign jimmy back and draft two others and lose eric smith

by revis24fan on Jan 20, 2012 1:16 AM EST reply actions