Why i think QB is a need in this years Draft

It almost makes you wish the Jets had the opportunity to draft Mallet in the, what was it? Third round, or whatever. If they can find a prospect to genuinely groom, for years, away from the micro-scope…I’m all for it.

The Jets need to acquire a back up QB through FA. Someone with NFL experience is needed just in case Sanchez goes down.

We have McElory for our backup, if Brunell is serious about retiring I say we either look for a FA that wont cost us much or perhaps in the UFL or Arena league

The 3 QB’s i have seen that people want in FA are Chad Henne , Jason Campbell and David Garrard . Now any one of these guys are way better than what we have as a backup at the moment but have any of them ever done enough to make you believe that they can lead this franchise if Sanchez fails again this year?

The thing is it’s highly unlikely any rookie is going to come in and play better than any of those guys. Over the long haul, I don’t think taking a QB would be the worst move in the world. They might as well get the ball on developing somebody new if Sanchez isn’t the answer. That’s a move made for the long haul, though, not a 2012 move.

I’m not against the idea of taking a QB as much as others, my friend, but don’t think it is a “need.” With the compensation picks, it does give the Jets some leeway. I’m not opposed to taking a QB as long as it’s in the 4th round or lower, and I won’t have a problem if a QB drops to them in one of those rounds and the Jets think he is the BPA and just too good to pass up. I don’t want them using a 3rd round pick on a QB, however, even if he is the BPA, unless the Jets really think he is special and has a real chance to be a quality starting QB in the NFL. If there is a QB prospect in the 3rd round and the Jets aren’t that high on him, they ought to see if they can trade that pick to garner an additional 4th round pick.

Also, as I stated earlier in a different thread, if the Jets do take a QB, I want him to be a QB who can run almost as well as the passes to bring a new dimension to the team and he must have a strong arm. For instance, I’d have no problems at all if the Jets took Russell Wilson in the 4th or 5th round.

When a team loses its starting QB for any lengthy period of time, the season is usually over. In that case, it wouldn’t be crucial to have a veteran backup. But if the QB only has to miss a few snaps, or perhaps a game or two, then the difference between a veteran and a rookie is light years. In that scenario, you need a veteran who will keep the season from going down the drain.

A veteran QB can also help mentor Sanchez and McElroy, something Schotty, Cavanaugh and Brunell have apparently all failed to do. When a veteran FA QB is available who has played for your new OC before, then he can help your other QBs learn the new system, terminology and philosophy, whereas a rookie cannot.

I don’t know where you’ve been reading, but I haven’t seen the 3 QBs you mentioned being the most-named possible veteran FA QB possibilities for the Jets. Campbell yes, and Garrard less so since he wants to start, but not Chad Henne. I have seen more people mention Kyle Orton as the backup than Henne. I’ve also seen Sage Rosenfels, Brady Quinn, Vince Young, Josh Johnson, Shaun Hill and Derek Anderson’s names tossed out there. Of that group, I think that Orton and Campbell are the best, and the two that could push Sanchez the most if the starting QB job is opened up to competition. Rosenfels or Henne would make sense if Sparano’s offense stays basically the same as in Miami, but not necessarily if he changed it to fit the talent here. Still, they would know his tendencies and probably his terminology and could really help Sanchez and McElroy pick that up. That is where a veteran QB is much more valuable than a rookie.

A rookie QB has enough to deal with working on his fundamentals, adapting to the speed of the pro game, adjusting to life in the NFL, learning the offense, and trying to develop timing with his receivers. He could possibly help in 2012, but would more likely be developmental for the future.

Your points about the cost of FA QBs and that they don’t often have trade value are accurate, and I like the idea of drafting QBs developing them and then trading them or one of your other QBs, but that is a luxury when your team doesn’t have a lot of holes/needs. While every team has needs and some holes, not many have as many BIG needs as the Jets do this year.

I still think the Jets panicked and reached a bit for Sanchez and that they’d have been much better off long term, if they had developed the rest of the team first, then had the availability to move up to get a real stud, franchise-caliber QB in the draft a year or two down the road. Think about what our future would be looking like now if the Jets had an excellent RT and excellent OL depth, a stud pass-rushing OLB opposite Pace, a ball-hawking FS and smashmouth SS in the defensive backfield, and a big, fast WR with great hands, and the only piece of the puzzle they needed was the QB. They could then quite possibly have traded up this year to get Luck or RG3. Imagine plugging one of those guys into that Jets team.

If Sanchez proves not to be “the guy” in 2012, then I don’t think that McElroy or someone else drafted this year will necessarily be the answer going forward. One of them could be, and if Sanchez fails, it would be great if they could find a great starter in a lower round, but that is rare and I think I’d rather the Jets then use their top picks next year to draft Sanchez’ successor.

A legitimate starting RT can be found in Round 4

A starting S are often available in Round 3

A 3-4 OLB should be around in Round 1 or Round 2 as might a legitimate No1 WR.

With many other needs, if we are not considering a QB until Round 5, why not wait to see about UDFA for the practise squad.

There are only so many snaps available in training camp. Both Sanchez and McElroy will need lots of snaps in the new offence as might a FA QB even if they are familiar with Sparano’s offence. When will the drafted QB even get a chance to hold the ball?

but if they do decide to draft one, id say look to grab Weeden in the second. there are plenty of other needs but this dude has a 1st round grade and the only thing teams shy away from is his age.

all these guys are FA and we will need to re sign some of these guys

Marquice Cole
Jamaal Westerman
Patrick Turner
Aaron Maybin
Bryan Thomas
Sione Pouha
Jim Leonhard
LaDainian Tomlinson
Robert Turner
Kevin O’Connell
Mark Brunell
Plaxico Burress
Nick Folk
Brodney Pool
Donald Stricklan

any of the above guys we re sign from the above list will want to get paid at least as much as eric smith and wayne hunter ( about 2m )
so if we re sign 5 of these guys it will cost us 10m minimum.
we are already and 121m for next year and adding that 10m plus the cost of our 10 + draft picks ( about 4.5m ) we are at a figure 135.5m for next year and that b4 we attempt to fix any of the BIG needs via FA .
now add 4.5m ( low estimate )for our vet qb to sit on the bench brings us to 140m (about 5m over the cap ) .
i know we can cut guys to save cap and restructure contracts but even with these things happening we will be left with maybe 3m if we are lucky to find a safety that can cover a TE .

drill it into your freaking heads. He is not and never will be a starter.