New York Jets Reportedly to Sign Tony Sparano as Offensive Coordinator
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 10, 2012 11:44 PM EST
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PrintIn a night where the New York Jets have made several changes to their coaching staff, none have been bigger than this. First, coaches Henry Ellard and Jeff Weeks were reported to be leaving the team. Next, offensive line coach and assistant head coach Bill Callahan left the Jets for the Dallas Cowboys. After that, much reviled offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer stepped down from his position. Finally, Tony Sparano, the former head coach of the Miami Dolphins and offensive line coach, is now being reported to be the next offensive coordinator of the Jets by Chris Mortenson.
With Bill Callahan to Cowboys & Brian Schottenheimer leaving, next anticipated
#Jets move is hiring former Dolphins coach Tony Sparano as OC
Tony Sparano has been first in line for Jets in event of this move, per league sources. Expect an announcement by Wednesday.
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Jason LaCanfora has since confirmed Mort's initial report, saying:
Jets plan to hire Tony Sparano as offensive coordinator with Brian Schottenheimer leaving. Schottenheimer exploring other options
There are some benefits to this move, such as an automatic replacement of Bill Callahan. With Henry Ellard gone, I wouldn't be surprised to see Todd Haley signed in the coming days as the new WR coach.
Please tell us in the comments below what you think of this move.
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First....
But I finally have a reason to shoot off the my left over fireworks from the fourth
So many big personalities
Does anyone know how much Sparano and Haley trash talk….i hope its a lot
Sporano doesn't thrash talk point blank.
Doesn’t have a bad word to say about anyone, a really good guy.
He can’t call plays, manage the clock, or coach qbs.
But he sure as hell knows how to coach ground and pound.
wow
i don’t know what to say. i realy don’t
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 10, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ok
bye bye schotty no one liked you anyway
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by rexthejet on Jan 10, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
One thread late
this was perfect for the Schotty thread
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i know
i also found another view of this one
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by rexthejet on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I always approve
of guys from the Bill Parcells coaching tree, unless they are linebackers coaches jumping up to the head coaching position
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Source confirms that Tony Sparano will be the new Jets offensive coordinator. #nyj
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 10, 2012 11:49 PM EST reply actions
What about cavaugh he’s next I hope
by dawg1331 on Jan 10, 2012 11:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No doubt.
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Both of Sparanos sons go to my college and play football here
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well
tell them GGN would like to interview their dad
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lol
I’m sure the team would love that
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Bro do you go to UAlbany?
I know Sparano had kids at UA, his family had tickets in the same section as my uncle
Yeah, I think they actually transferred come to think of it
I’m just a townie that transferred to Albany from CC. Going for ITM and GIS.
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I actually am from the city of Albany,(UAlbany is literally my backyard)
My dad is a UA grad, as is a bunch of my family, I go to Manhattan though, one of my buddies from high school plays on the UA football team, he’s a transfer from Northeastern but I know a lot of those guys just from being around there, like the Smith’s from Guilderland
I went to Guilderland high school and have lived in downtown Albany for several years
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by GangGreenMag on Jan 11, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Certainly can't be a downgrade...
In terms of play calling, at least. And definitely a big plus after losing Callahan.
But how does this address our biggest need – the one that is arguably keeping this team from consistently reaching the next level: Sanchez’s development?
One thing I'll say is that Tony does take some of the Callahan hurt away
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I'm disappointed to say the least
First things first, a Sparano/Haley combo is way better than Schotty. Let’s not forget that.
But here it looks right now to this fan:
1. Jets FO dicks around, trying to save Schotty face and save some money.
2. While Jets FO is dicking around, Callahan goes to Cowboys.
3. Jets FO panics, tells Schotty he can step down or be fired. Schotty decides that at his age, resigning and maintaining dignity is better than sitting on couch cashing Jets paychecks.
4. Jets grab Sparano as OC options are coming off the board.
Maybe this is all wrong. Maybe, for whatever reason, Callahan was never going to stay and the FO was never going to offer him the OC spot. We can debate the wisdom of that.
But right now it looks to me like their penny-wise, pound-foolish dithering cost them the best option for OC.
We'll debate tomorrow. Celebrate tonight.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 10, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
I will club you with a sack of bricks square1
don’t piss all over this moment, we’ve gotten rid of Forest Gump, I don’t care if his son is taking over, Gump is gone.
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Take it easy, Forrest Gump is cool. Schottys a dick
by dawg1331 on Jan 11, 2012 12:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
true...
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 11, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
But play calling is like a box of chocolates, you never kniw what you're gonna get...
4th and inches…I’m thinking empty back field!
by RhodesRocks on Jan 11, 2012 7:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No panic.
It actually looks like this was worked out beforehand. They waited for the slight chance that Jax would hire him, but it seems like this would be the solution if that didn’t happen.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
I’m thinking they offered their support for Schotty in exchange for him voluntarily leaving if he didn’t get a new job.
by Tim Sullivan on Jan 11, 2012 6:58 AM EST up reply actions
All I'm saying
is that with Callahan in the wings, I was willing to give the FO some time to dump Schotty gently. But if they wanted Sparano (and possibly Haley), it scares the crap out of me that the FO was dicking around.
Look, maybe the FO had an agreement in principle with Sparano, while Schotty was interviewing. Fine. But what would have happened if Callahan left and Sparano abd Haley took other jobs?
I’m not actually disappointed. I’m just scared that the FO may have dodged a bullet completely unnecessarily. Also, I personally wanted Callahan as OC.
Disagree with your timeline of events.
1. Jets allow Schotty to try and find another position in the league by interviewing for other jobs. FO hopes that will dispose of Schotty.
2. Jets in conversation with Sparano (and possibly Haley) as a replacement for if/when Schotty gets another job.
3. No one wants Schotty so he has to return.
4. Jets ready to move on from Schotty and tell him that they’re going to let him go.
5. Schotty is let go.
Don’t think the Jets were “dicking around.”
by Richard Hill on Jan 11, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
I think Callahan left because he knew the organization wanted to bring in an outsider to run the offense. Obviously they thought Schotty was going to get the JAX job, so Ryan and Mr. T could have said “told you so.” They probably had an agreement in the event he didn’t get the job, since his resignation came so quickly after the Mularky news.
by chrebetsthebet on Jan 11, 2012 5:44 AM EST up reply actions
To me...
This sounds like it was in the works. Schotty is done right after he doesn’t get the Jags job. Sparano is hired immediately (and there have been no shortage of rumors). I doubt anyone was dragging their feet and that this is a panic move.
Cant be a downgrade but how big of an upgrade is this???
I dont remember anything special from Miami besides when they introduced the wildcat _
And Schotty was running the wildcat
before the Dolphins made it a big part of their offense.
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Actually, that's not true
The phins were the first team to really use the wildcat, which then became a fad for the rest of the league.
by struckanerve9 on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I liked what he did.
Considering Henne was awful, he really got the offense going with Moore.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Moore only came in when Henne was hurt
But I would like to know what in his past makes him a great OC.
I think they'er hoping
That Sparano handles the run game and Haley handles the pass game. Sparano never seemed to do a whole lot with his QBs, but the run game was usually good, iirc.
"He knows where he's throwing. If he didn't, there'd be dead bodies strewn all over Idaho." - Washington Senators scout on Walter Johnson
You also have to look at what he did when he was with Dallas with Todd Haley. It seems at this point that the Jets will hire both to fill similar rolls as they had back then with Dallas. At the time, Sparano was responsible for the run game, Haley was responsible for the passing game. Statistically speaking, the approach worked for Dallas, which ranked 5th in overall offense in 06 when they were there.
by struckanerve9 on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Can someone gimmie some Sparano love???
Im just curious about his resume….
all i know him from is the Miami dolphins… which has a decent run game…
show me some stats
I don't remember it being decent..
It was certainly a top 5 run offense, and they did pass it efficiently. Their o-lines were solid too
by jets4life24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
remember
Sparano was the HC in Miami, not the OC.
by struckanerve9 on Jan 11, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
All I’ve seen from him, is he is passionate
by chrebetsthebet on Jan 11, 2012 5:45 AM EST up reply actions
That probably the best quality I’ve seen out of him. I think should something like the Holmes situation happens, he’ll be in the face of that player before it can become an issue.
by Tim Sullivan on Jan 11, 2012 6:59 AM EST up reply actions
A parcells disciple...
Sporano will run the rock and get the best out of our offensive players…
by jets4life24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
so
another question. who’s going to be our line coach?
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Honestly prob a no name.
do we need all ex -HC to fill roles that are usually reserved for young up and coming guys? Or ones that have worked their lives as under the radar people. Honestly I think well miss Callahan.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
I think they like Mike Devlin to step up
unless Sparano has his own guy. But my feeling is that they probably got him to agree to more affordable coaches.
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This probably boosts the chances that we take Trent Richardson if he falls to us.
This team is back to the ground and pound.
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions
Doubt he falls to us, but I’d be shocked if we don’t take an OL fairly high up. Probably second round.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
It depends on FA.
This year it wont be reversed so maybe we can fill in FA where we need them and draft around it.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
nah
16th
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Hmm, who before that would take Richardson?
by Bronco Mike on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
It's hard to say.
Buc’s, Brown’s, Chiefs all suitors. Might be picking too high though.
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly, unless it's Jim Brown
I don’t like the idea of drafting a RB in the first
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by JetsFanMurphy on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
They have said they'll likely let Peyton Hillis walk
it is more than likely they use their first pick on RG3 and maybe their second first round pick on another talented rb like Lamar Miller. Or they could trade up to the #2 and take RG3.
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Oh man I forgot how high they picked
There’s NO WAY they take Richardson in the top 5, if they don’t make a move for RGIII, they are clueless!
by Bronco Mike on Jan 11, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe the Browns, I can't see the Bucs doing it with with Blount or the Chiefs with Charles
I suppose you never know, there’s always a team that will trade up as well a la the Chargers with Mathews and the Saints with Ingram. But I’m also of the idea that there’s no need to take em in the first round unless they are extremely special.
by Bronco Mike on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
i'd rater a wr
but sporano is more into the run game the pass, so who knows
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They also have that 2nd year or rookie Dexter McCluster
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Really, the Chiefs?
They already have Jamaal Charles yet nobody to play across from Eric Berry. I wouldn’t be surprised if Crennel had them drafting a DB first round.
Hey fellahs
I might have read somewhere on this sight that the Shotty guy might not have been too good;)
So congratulations on getting rid of a weak link in your offensive coaching ranks! Sparano had his guys playing hard for him even though he was a lame duck so I think if nothing else, the Jets’ offensive players will work well with him.
thanks
good luck against the pats. a pats loss is pretty much a jet playoff win for me anyway
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Thanks for coming to the Party!
Kill the Pats. I want you to Tebow them so hard it’ll look like what Brandon Jacobs did to the Cowboys star
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by JetsFanMurphy on Jan 11, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
This is news to me
When did Brandon Jacobs take a shit on the Cowboy’s star?
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by JetsFanMurphy on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's funny but
Jacobs is such a jerk…I can’t wait till he’s cut
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Oh I hate the guy
I was only giving an example of how hard I want Tebow to Tebow the Patriots
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by JetsFanMurphy on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Try the other way
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by JetsFanMurphy on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
As a dolphins fan this one hurts me... because now I can't root for him
Sparano is a hell of a guy…one that gets along with the players and a high character guy… Face it, whether you want to hear it or not, you guys need high character personel coming in.
Sparano is a great guy but wasn’t the greatest coach. I always respected him but never understood how his background was offensive line, and he tended to move people around and screw that up.
I think he’s a better fit for OC, alot better than what you had, and he’ll prolly find success. I’m not happy about it.
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thanks
it’s just, it seems according to some of you guys sporano isn’t great at running a O. i know you guys struggled a little bit there. would you blame him?
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for someone who can help bring your team back together, its a good move IMO
as far as improving on the field personel, eh, i’ll leave for that you to decide.
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i believe
he’s big on running the ball, which i kind of have mixed feelings about since we will be going back to ground and pound, but it appears we aren’t geting a guy who is good with qb’s
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oh and one more thing...
he fucking LOVES field goals.
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Laces out!
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Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
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Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
ha
that might be a problem with us. folk was pretty good last year, but i still get nervous when he kicks
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we have a great kicker
too bad ive grown to hate him after we see him 20 times every sunday.
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Laces out!
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Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
Sparano's stats with Miami
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Here is the biggest reason why this fit works. Pass/Run play selection the last 4 years: 52.3/47.7 51.7/48.3, 55.6/44.4, 50/50 #Jets #nyj
I also bet this means the we will be picking up Chad Henne in free agency.
A move I can hardly disagree with.
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 AM EST reply actions
Sounds fine by me...
that would be a great addition. That will push Sanchez to his limits hopefully.
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doubt that...
he’d probably be a good fit, aka better than Sanchez, but I’m not even sure Tony would put his trust in him..
He’ll probably end up on the Patriots or something..
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Yo...
Wikipedia are beasts…. they have him as our OC already.
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by King A! on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
well guys
we are all celebrating here, but there is still one guy who is still with us, a man that has ruined many a qb in his career. cavenaugh is still somehow here.
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i hope
he, even though it wasn’t as noted, probably deserves a good portion of the blame. he ruined boller too. he just isn’t a good qb coach, and a god qb coach is a big difference
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No Worries
Cav will be acking up his office and saying his goodbyes by the end of the week
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weve gotten rid of half our guys already.
still one more shmoe to go.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
i hope
but the dolphins O wasn’t very good. so why would his guys be good now?
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In the same breath, they didn't really have some of the offensive talent that the Jets have
Marshall is about all they got, Reggie Bush aside.
by Bronco Mike on Jan 11, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
in all honesty i think Miami's offense was way more talented than NY's
but im sure I wont get many to agree with that on here
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Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
Hmmm...
FB-RB — yes
WRs — Bmarsh, yes; the corps, no.
QB — Sanchez is better
TE — Keller by far
OL — Jets better
FB RB is debatable.
otherwise Crack your dead on the mark.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty much I'd take Keller any day of the week and three times on Sunday over Fasano
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Bush-Thomas is better. Can’t argue. And I really like their FB-HB guy whose name is escaping me; but that dude has a ton of talent and wasn’t really utilized at all properly (i don’t think).
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
C. Clay was the roster listed FB, LEx Hillard was the other RB
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 11, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I see what your saying. Bush really came on this year. I still think Mcknight will be a good back and IMO Greene is dogged way to hard here on GGN. The question is does Bush finally put it together two years in a row or does he go back to being a 3rd down back.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
I'd take Fasano over Keller any day.
Seriously underrated. Keller is a worse run blocker than Hunter and Fasano is better as a receiver as well.
i'd say TE bc I'm a fan of Keller
but thats it… I’ll take Reggie over Shonn and BMarsh over all your receivers combined.
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He numbers lean towards Moore but neither of us are going to get where we want our teams to be under either of their current performances.
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well
thats were i think it is different. sanchez didn’t play well last year with a terrible O staff. i mean, i don’t know how good sparano will be, but he can’t be worse
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Right now you are lucky we are all on a collective high from Schotty's midnight departure
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
We did it. We found a worse option than Schotty for OC.
So who do we want for HC in 2013? Maybe Cower will want to come here.
Not worse
but I have questions, and I’m not entirely relieved.
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you know what
i have a feeling you might be right. i just don’t see sparano as a OC. at least he like rb’s crackback.
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As much as Im about RBs, we don't need Sparano to pick one. We need somebody to install an offense to suit our QB, and somebody that can develop him.
And i think i’d rather Schotty than Sparano for that.
not sure about that.
He did well with Matt Moore to me Henne is nothing more than AFL or UFL material.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Matt Moore stinks.
Just because he outperformed his even stinkier expectations it doesn’t mean he’s anything to brag about.
agree... but he did have a winning record with matt moore.
My point is with a halfway decent QB he won a lot of games.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
I still think upgrade over shotty.
I think he can do a decent job. We don’t need an all world offense to win. Just one that doesn’t go 3 and out every time.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Yup. Matt Moore will be back to his sucky ways next season
He was handed the starting job in North Carolina and we all know how that worked out for him.
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i agree crack
i just see this as a publicity move. we were cheap, so we missed out on the big names, so we took one of the remaining big names
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What big names did we lose out on
by dawg1331 on Jan 11, 2012 1:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
McDaniels really
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How do you know mcdainels was going to come to NY. He is a bellicheck guy.
by dawg1331 on Jan 11, 2012 9:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah
and we know bellicheck guys never (cough mangini cough) come here.
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I'm just saying that's really the only big name I remember.
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 11, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
true
more like guys that i thought would fit here. i just don’t get why we didn’t go after clements
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Just a question
Do you guys think the Jets should help their O-line out in the 1st round? If you are going to go back to ground and pound, then that might make more sense right now.
by Bronco Mike on Jan 11, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
That or FA.
one weak ass link killed us this year. Not really an overhaul as much as one upgrade.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
well
we need a rt, but i would go wr first. we need a young wr with 1st round talent
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I'd prefer OLB or safety over a WR
just me though.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
i like olb
we need one, but olb didn’t lose us gams. rt did, saftey did, wr did, even punting costed us at times. but not olb
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not quite.
our pass rush was barely existent in times of need. cant allow the QB to have time to throw on us. OLB is a huge need
I'm nervous about Sparano coming on as OC
but that’s because I don’t know much about his coordinating skills. I’m just going to celebrate the end of Schotty’s reign. I’ll think about Sparano tomorrow.
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He was the lead play caller for the cowboys in 2006
Their offense was one of the best in the league. Ranked #4 in points scored and #5 in total offense. He is mentored by parcells
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Cromartie just tweeted that he likes Martz to come in and coach Sanchez.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:28 AM EST reply actions
Maybe
If it were up to Martz, he’d pass the ball every play of the game. The fit doesn’t seem right.
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
well
i think cro is a little late
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I think he meant as a QB coach.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Cro isn't a high IQ kinda guy.
Not one to pay attention to. And he’s on the wrong side of the ball.
Haha, Woody just said that Martz would be the worst possible move.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Woody likes TE coach Mike Devlin to replace Callahan. Says players love him.
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Damien.
Just thought it’s interesting.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
No problem. Totally understand the reaction.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
agreed if he can get the job done then he should be hired.
players approval or not.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Well Aaron Maybin liked Smith and look what happened.
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Plus they went to the daily news talking shit about Mark and saying they want Peyton Manning
Yet they didnt give out their names
Guy who coached Mulligan, Cumberland, and Keller?
NO. Fuck the players. Control of the franchise needs to be taken away from them.
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I think TE coach Mike Devlin would be a natural fit to replace Callahan….worked closely w/ the OL….guys love him
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I stand by my resounding no. In fact I’ll raise you a “Hell no”.
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Woody loves shouting his opinion.
He might have a point though. Mulligan was a waste. But Cumberlind was nothing beforehand.
Still would like to see someone different
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know much about Devlin
but the only thing I think about is how much Keller says he’s learning from Tom Moore. Stuff you would think he’d learn from Devlin.
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It's all about $ with this FO.
Mike Devlin and Mike Smith would both cost less than the guys they’re replacing. If Westy goes, Ben Kotwicka would take over. I don’t know who’ll take over for Ellard, but he would probably be cheap as well.
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Since Sparano is an O-line guy, they are probably just looking for a yes man to do what he wants..
If your just going to hire a yes man, why not do it on the cheap and have it be someone players like.
by RhodesRocks on Jan 11, 2012 8:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Westy is a more talented Cher
Always on a farewell tour but still around next year. Westy doesn’t need the money, he’s here cause he wants to work.
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 11, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
they need to pick up the coloring books and go home.
the coaches of our TEs
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
First reaction: Fuck Yes! Schotty is finally gone!!!
Next reaction: Tony Sparano? What the fuck? I don’t want 13 points a game?!?!?!?
by JetKing55 on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I think he’s a little too conservative for my taste. Plus he seems to almost prefer field goals to TDs. But at least there’s a chance he will succeed. Schotty was the Kellen Clemmens of OCs.
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by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 11, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
I’m going to reserve judgement until the staff is complete. Need to see who will be coaching Sanchez and who will be coaching the receivers. I want a run-based offense and Sparano isn’t the worst option to get us there.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
def a run based guy.
Also did ok with horrible talent in Henne. Still won a few games with Matt Moore. Really interesting to see what he does with Sanchez.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Why? I dont get it.
He ran a great offense in Dallas in 2004 (I think it was 2004).
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
'04 was almost a decade ago.
Miami’s offense was turrible.
When McCarthy went to the Packers from the 49ers
his offense ranked 31st in the league. I think we need to see at least ONE preseason game before we start hatin.
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
He's a Dolphin.
He’s hated by default until he proves himself to be otherwise.
Both of these are fantastic points.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Lol fair enough.
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Crack.
Wouldn’t we then by association hate McDaniels because he was a Pat for years and was a Pat during Spygate? I don’t know if you supported any of McDaniels but you get what I mean.
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah but when you're good and you're kicking our ass, I'd rather poach.
Sparano? Eff him and his crap team in that fake city. Can’t respect a team that has more Jets fans there for their home games than they do.
BTW, it wasnt 04, it was 06 that he was the Cowboys playcaller
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by YankeesJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
My bad.
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
He didnt exactly have great players on that Miami team on offense
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Look at it this way Crack
It seems like it was between Sparano and Koetter for OC. Would you really want Koetter running this offense over Sparano?
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 11, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
Koetter = Yuck
Might as well bring in the guy who was running LSUs offense last night.
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Sorry to say but he beat us a lot. Remember the year we got favre and chad went to Miami.
Last game of the season chad and soprano stuck it to us to win the division. Rex year one on Monday night beat us with 3 sec left to hand Rex his first lose. And Rex year two beat us at home.
by dawg1331 on Jan 11, 2012 9:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Running a great offense 1 out of 5 years isn't that great an accomplishment
especially since he wasn’t that effective on offense with his other team.
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Considering Schotty did that with 1 out of 6 I like our odds.
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
I don't hate it, don't love it either
To me, his line oriented offensive style takes us back to our identity, and helps compensate for the loss of Callahan, probably our most valuable coach.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
Oh I agree totally with what you are saying.
I’m just saying Westhoff to me is the coach I want year after year. O line is by far most important position in football.
…I played O line for years growing up. First thing I taught as a coach, and without it you have nothing.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
You coach OL
We have an opening. Send Tanny your resume & some tape. :)
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by ProfScorpio on Jan 11, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
No
he’s great IMO, but replaceable. He also has made many more visible mistakes than Callahan, who was awesome until this years regression since the FO neglected the line.
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The question is Sparano an upgrade: Yes Was he a great choice: Very Very Debatable.
Def sees a Rex choice.
Loudmouth: Check
Players Coach: check
Questionable decisions: check
The only question is can he fix the offense specifically Sanchez.
He can get the running game back on track, but it’s going to be up to the new QB coach to “fix” Sanchez.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
That's the next hurdle
Finding a good QB coach to fix all the “coaching” Sanchez has received the last 3 years
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by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
meant more in the sense he's going to call the plays that make Sanchez comfortable/ what hes good at.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
So we are gonna run the ball
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by YankeesJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
He looks like a cop
not a good one either.
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Perfect choice of words, he does look like a dirty cop right in that pic
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by YankeesJets on Jan 11, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Question for all the people hating this deal:
Who is out there that you would have rather seen than Sparano. Lets not go into the game of who we could have had if Shotty was gone earlier or had they not been fired (Turner)
I dont hate it but I’m not sold on this deal.
Only guy I forgot about was Tom Moore
Not sure he wanted to be an OC any longer but I feel he wouldve been the better choice. Couldve still brought Sparano in as OLine coach.
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In the same role, yes.
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Hey Crack…I know its early but please stay calm….its very early days…lots still to happen before we can really assess this move and how it will work out. We need to see what tools will be given to Tony S. to get the job done. WE still need to get the rest of his O-Team filled out. They then need to start assessing the the O-Team from top to bottom and make those decisions on who stays & go’s. They need to format a plan for March F/A attack plan. It cannot be a flop like last summer’s. This as to be one of precise strikes for key positions with additions that will make sense. Secondly, like March they have to get their act ready for April’s College Draft. This includes decisions on the #1 choice at #16. There are 3 options there ( trade up, Stay, Trade down for add’l pics). They need to know securely who their choice is and go for it. Finally, once we’ve had Summer Camp and played our X Games and made our final Personnel decisions then it will be time to get amped up for Tony. As soon as Game #1 is complete he is a wide open target to test his creativity and the new change he brings to the Jets offense ….or the same old Jets. But lets celebrate the changing of the guard for today. Keep up with your great posts and input to this site. You bring a lot of life here and I for one really enjoy your take on the Jets.
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I am very upset
that Callahan left. Callahan made a lateral move to the Cowboys which means the F.O. didn’t offer him the job. This isn’t no celebration when the best man for the job left the team! As much I hate BS play calling. I rather have him as O.C. than anyone else that’s currently on the market right now. I wouldn’t be surprised if we tanked next year because of the stupidity of the F.O. Next season better be a SB appearance or its going to be clean house in ’13.
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Callahan may end up as the OC in Dallas.
They were making noises down there about having someone come in and take the play calling away from Garrett so he could focus more on being a HC. Callahan may be starting out as the O-line coach, but he may have been told it would or could evolve and he would be more involved in running the offense. Since eh wasn’t going to be the OC here that was a better option for him. We’ll have to see how this develops over the coming months.
by Traveling Man on Jan 11, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Again,
What make the F.O. think that Sanchez going to pick up another playbook when he needed color coded wristband of plays for the first year in the league. It’s a setback that going to cost them a job after next season. It also defeats the purpose of firing BS if they going to use his playbook. Also hiring Sparano is a dumb decision because he most likely do not have his own plays since he was only a coordinator 7 years ago. 1 year O.C. experience. It means that he is going to have lean on the old playbook a lot while the players learn the new one. He need to draw up in the next several months. Sparano is unproven. Callahan is proven. By the way, judging our offensive calls over last couple years. The old playbook is nothing but short passing plays and running up through middle. The only way that we going to get to the playoffs next year if Sanchez get to studying for the next 6 months nonstop. Which may not happen because he want to be Hollywood like K. Rhode used to be.
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Supposedly one of the reasons they liked Sanchez was how quickly he learned a playbook they gave him
again this is from the Jets FO so there’s no way of knowing whether or not it’s true or just spin.
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It's just spin.
In his rookie year, they kept talking about how they gave him everything. And supposedly, it seemed to easy to Sanchez that he asked Kellen, and Clemens confirmed he was indeed getting the whole playbook. And then Sanchez was allowed to change plays in the huddle, and eventually they had to ask him to just go with the original play called.
There was also that spin last year that all three WRs were learning the X, Y and Z because all three were #1 WRs so the defense would never know where they could line up. It didn’t exactly work out that way, and Braylon had to tell Schotty how to beat the Colts.
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I really like this hiring, it goes some way to negating the loss of Callahan.
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by ProfScorpio on Jan 11, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
A few thoughts.
-Good riddens Schotty.
-Unfortunate re Callahan. Bet there is a story there. Maybe he was pissed they denied him the Tennessee interview. It would have made more sense if Callahan was made OC and Sparano returned to his old job as line coach for Dallas.
-Sparano is not that exciting a hire but at least he fits the mentailty.
-I wonder if Tom Moore will stick around? Bet he was like the company guy they bring in to the office to determine who to fire. Now Tom Moore could be the passing experience that Sparano is lacking.
-Brunell or Penny as QB coaches?
They never wanted Callahan as OC.
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Cimini
That’s why Callahan refused two contract extension offers. Wanted to eventually be OC but the Jets told him they planned on him as OL Coach only.
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I didn't see it specifically stated that way
I thought his reason for leaving was still up in the air. Personally, I assumed he was upset because they blocked him from Tenn. interview.
by CervezaVerde on Jan 11, 2012 7:46 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure that factors in.
I don’t think he would have minded that so much if it meant he would move up sooner or later. But from what I’ve read, they wanted him to stay but only as OL Coach.
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thats stupid
i’d rather him over sparano. it’s just that callahan has cordinated a great O, but sparano hasn’t
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What the fsfjoucvhjkkfsrdcvjifvhj
This is so damn stupid. Really, it was between Sparano and Koetter for the job? We couldn’t at least try waiting a bit and poaching someone off a playoff team with an actually good offense? Instead the FO and Rex’s hard-on for running the ball is setting our franchise back another decade. Schotty might have sucked at his job, but at least he had the right idea. I’m glad he’s gone, but it’s pretty much all for naught. Dhjjbdsthkufcjkifs
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Mark Sanchez out too?
There’s rumors of a mutiny against Sanxhez among the players, with them pushing for a Peyton Mannibg acquisition. Just heard it on 1010 WINS.
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Do they realize how much the team would have to give up in draft picks and cap space to get Manning? In addition he is completely unknown on how he will play
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Why wouldn't they?
Probably the only way for the Jets to be able to make caproom for Manning.
It is what it is
Nope
Irsey said he wouldn’t trade Manning, even with them locked into Luck. So its either keep him or release him. Also Middlesex, and I’m not saying my position on the Manning thing either way, without Mannings 28mil bonus, his salary for 2012 is 7.5~7.8mil. much more manageable
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by Noble_Lance on Jan 11, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Story’s in the Daily News. Not pretty in Jets-ville.
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Burress and Holmes as the sources?
The criticism is pretty harsh, with Sanchez being referred to as lazy in a number of different ways. The part about him not deserving to be a Captain isn’t shocking; I’d say the same about all the players Rex made Captains. Just let the players pick their own Captains.
The price for Manning would be very high for the Jets, who just might not be able to afford him. Draft picks and maybe even an elite player like Revis.
It is what it is
My understanding is that Manning has a right to make himself a FA
by CervezaVerde on Jan 11, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
Manning probably a No-Go for 2012
During the BCS game Monday night they were providing some info from Archie Manning(Dad) saying that Peyton “might” not be even able to play at all in 2012. I don’t know why we are getting our hopes so high up on a guy who could be potentially 1 hit away from permanent IR and then where are we going? Where’s the insurance policy to recover the assets given up to equalize the loss of PM in game 3? Just too dam risky. We should have thought of this 7 seasons ago.
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by Canadian Jet on Jan 12, 2012 2:50 AM EST up reply actions
Believe me I do not hope for it. Just clarifying my understanding of the situation.
I don’t know why we are getting our hopes so high up on a guy who could be potentially 1 hit away from permanent IR
by CervezaVerde on Jan 12, 2012 3:09 AM EST up reply actions
I need to see this in writing.
This shit’s just absurd. It definitely sounds like some idiot players that have no understanding of the business side of things trying to be all LeBron and D-Wade.
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Horrible move
great that we got rid of Schotty but this is hardly an upgrade at all. We have hired a guy that has never had a good offense as our coordinator. Obviously Rex wants a conservative offense because this is exactly what we will be.
I wanted a coordinator that has been around good offenses so this is a major fail. We will most likely be an awful offensive team once again which will be the end of the Sanchez era. We had Todd haley out there as well as guys we could have hired from real offenses like Green Bay or New Orleans. Instead we hire a conservative coach whose offenses with Miami were every bit as bad as ours.
I think anyone that is excited with this move is crazy. Yes its great that Schotty is gone but its not good enough because we didnt upgrade the position at all. The name of the game is scoring points and we have hired a guy that will ensure that our offense remains in the bottom third of the league. We passed on Hue Jackson, Todd Haley and callahan to hire a complete fool. Now I am not a fan of either Jackson or Callahan but I really think this is about the worst possible hire there is.
Not only do I think this ensures Sanchez not improving but this move will prove to be the beginning of the end of the Rex Ryan era because lets face it this is the only team that would hire Sparano for a job other than OL coach.
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He gets fired up and he kept that team playing hard after they started the year 0-whatever (0-6? 0-7?). Never had a great QB…..always had injury problems…..and he’s a run first kind of guy.
I told my Dolphin fan friend that I would be thrilled if the Jets could have gotten him, and we did. So today is a celebration!
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+1
He’s the guy who brought the wildcat back, and it worked well for awhile before everyone started using it and preparing for it. He also used trick plays like flea flickers to compensate for Chad Pennington’s weak arm. Love the move.
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by rxmeister on Jan 11, 2012 8:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
ESPN reporting that Todd Hailey is visiting the Jets today.
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by rxmeister on Jan 11, 2012 8:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Sprano as OC, Haley assistant head coach.
Haley works on the passing game in practice, Tony gets us back tpo ground and pound I’m games. Liking this.
by ArunK on Jan 11, 2012 8:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
that is EXACTLY what they said on mike & mike about 5 minutes ago. apparently there was a rumor that they were trying to get hired as a “package deal” this year to work together like they did in dallas
GET RIPPED
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And that Dallas offense was a very good one I believe.
Considering what was available, Jets could do a lot worse than Sparano and Haley.
by ArunK on Jan 11, 2012 9:06 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Getting rid of Shotty is a dream come true. Would rather have root canal then hire Sparano.
I don't like this one bit.
Don’t get me wrong, Schotty had to go. my problem is with Sparano and what it implies. First, Sparano strikes me as a good guy who is dumb. I don’t see any evidence that he has the mind to run a good offense. At all. Second-the implication is that the Jets will go back to running the ball first, second and third. Bad idea. there are basically no good run first offenses in the NFL these days. the best hope any team has to score is to develop a good passing attack. That means, as bad as it sounds, that the Jets best hope in the short run is to bring in someone to get the most out of Sanchez and if that fails, to get a new QB. NOT TO GROUND AND POUND. Ground and pound is stupid, and is a blueprint for failure in today’s NFL. Even mediocre passing attacks pile up more yards per play than good running attacks. A good running attack is useful to ice games and keep teams off-balance. Not as a primary weapon. Just name to good run-first offenses in the NFL in the last 10 years. I can think of about 3 or 4. You can all point to the Jets of 2009-2010 as an example of a successful G&P team-but that was all defense, the offense was bad. This basically dooms Sanchez and his development.
Totally agree
that ground and pound doesnt win in todays NFL. I just cant wait to watch us run the wildcat 15 times per game. The name of the game is scoring points and Sparano is not the guy to help us do that. We are once again trying to win 13-10 instead of attempting to put a prolific offense on the field.
Ask yourselves this, would any other team hire Sparano for any job other than OL coach? I am pretty certain that we are the only team dumb enough to hire this guy as our coordinator. This is not the coach that will get the best out of Sanchez and that is the most important factor for this job.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 11, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
It’s amazing how depressing thus blog is. All most of you do is find a negative in everything. Listen schotty is gone, I don’t think it can get any worse.
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Don't be silly.
you think magically getting rid of Schotty fixes all problems and makes our offense good? It simple doesn’t work that way. I am happy Schotty is gone, I am not sure that Sparano is any real upgrade. Just reality not downerism.
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It’s amazing how depressing thus blog is
i guess you are knew here. we are very happy schotty is gone, i just wished we didn’t get a guy who has the potential to be a worse OC then schotty. there were a few people left, and some of them, including callahan, were a much better option
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Geez, a few bad apples ruin the bunch for him
Its more of a mixed bag. Hey, this blog still has Sanchez appologists.
by CervezaVerde on Jan 11, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
which is good
he deserves another year at least
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Haley? Henne?
So glad to hear Schotty is moving on! Made my morning. I’ll reserve judgement on Sparano unitl I see how he does. Heard the plan was to get Todd Haley in as WR/QB assisant head coach. Also heard rumblings that they might look to Henne as a backup QB.
I guess I see the logic, but the thought of Miami North is very exciting.
Also I’m VERY disappointed in the “anonymous” players who are ripping Sanchez and advocating Manning. Keep your mouth shut and let everything blow over. No need to keep the negative turmoil going like this. I don’t care what you think.
by mangold'sbeard on Jan 11, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions
phin fan here
And if you guys get orgasmic by field goals, you will love tony, because FGs are all you will get with him. I can promise you one thing, nick folk is going to be on my fantasy roster next year.
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by AnishB15 on Jan 11, 2012 10:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Sadly this guy is right
Sparano is an absolutely terrible hire and this will be the end of Rex Ryan as our head coach. We will once again be an overly simplistic offense that wont put any points on the board. get ready for more dink and dunk and running the ball 70 perecent of the time.
We have not had a good offense since 1998 and Sparano will ensure that will remain the case. I honestly consider this move a lateral one at best and think Sparano might actually be worse that Schottenheimer.
Does anyone think that Sparano is the coach to get the best out of Sanchez. He might be great for the OL but this guy knows nothing about QBs. Its obvious that Rex wants an ultra conservative offense but that wont win championships.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 11, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
It was my understanding as to the Sparano hire
that people liked what Sparano did with the run game and they hoped he’d shore up the “ground and pound” mentality that Rex loves (and that has showed some success for us). Then you bring in someone to replace Ellard as Passing Game assistant and a new QB Coach replacement for Cavanaugh to build up the passing part of the offense.
Sparano
was the playcaller in Dallas in 2006 when they had the #4 offense in the league. However he didn’t design the playbook, he called the plays. He was replaced by Garrett in 2007. What this tells you is:
a)He can call plays decently if he has the right plays and a good playbook and the right players (e.g. the talent trups the playcaller most likely).
b)In the absence of that there is no evidence he is competent to do anything other than be an O-line coach.
BTW-the “ground and pound” mentality is stupid.
All of this
Ground and pound sucks ass …. N since the dolphins offense was lighting the
League up i guess bring in tony ….. The jets will never get it right. Just as fast as this hire came is the amout of thought they put into this hire
Personally...
I think this is a great hire, particularly for this team. I always liked Sparano. Time will tell, obviously, and I hope we get Haley too. I honestly think that’s a good personality combo to go with Rex and this team.
Devil's advocate
Couple of things:
1. Read all the posts and agree its wwwaaayyyy tooooooooo early to be down on Sparano.
2. Let’s see how staff turns out before we criticize FO
3. A #1 running game & top 3 defense should always get you to the playoffs (step 1) & that’s the direction we’re building to. (after that SB – step 2). I know it’s not sexy, but when you can run & run & run on a team, then Sanchize can be at his best with play action.
4. Sparano – Haley combo may be what we’re all looking for.
5. Head coaching experience, especially in the AFC East, could also help. He knows us, bills and the evil up north. His knowledge and viewpoint could help us beat AFCE teams & win the division – he’s done that in the past with a average team.
That said I’m not excited about the hire, but I’ll give it a chance. In Rex I trust.
Hue Jackson is a great QB coach, but that looks like it’d be a personality conflict with Rex. What ever happened to Jim Fassel? Wasn’t he an offensive guru? He’s won 2 or 3 championships in that other league. He can coach. He’d be a real QC coach. Is he still waiting for a HC job? What about Brian Billic. He used to be considered an offensive guru? He hired Fassel after Fassel was a HC. He could be/have been hired. He worked with Rex. Just throwing out some names I haven’t heard anyone else discuss.
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My thoughts on Sparano
I want a strong leader who would take ownership of the offense. I like Rex. I want him as HC. But I increasingly think that he really should stay away from the offense. Entirely. And I want an OC that will tell Rex to go stuff his Wildcat ideas (I’m not 100% against the wildcat. I just think the Wildcat plays should be called as part of a comprehensive game plan and not just to appease the HC)
I want an OC who is going to step in an immediately instill a sense of purpose and vision. To me, it is hard to do that when you haven’t been an OC recently.
I am concerned about this Sparano/Haley combo thing. I’m not saying that it can’t work in the right situation. I just question whether the Jets are the situation. I want a strong leader, not a chorus of offensive voices. Is Tom Moore going to be piping in too?
The Jets are ready to win now. They need a proven offensive winner. To me the best choice who was clearly available was Callahan. The possibility of getting Gannon (another winner) if Callahan was promoted was intriguing as well.
I also would have preferred Tom Clements if he would have come over.
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