Bart Scott on the Way Out?
by John B on Jan 1, 2012 10:10 PM EST
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PrintRod Boone begins speculation on the hot stove with a tweet about a linebacker who might be leaving town.
With no postseason, changes are coming for#Jets. Here's one: Source tells me Bart Scott won't be back next season.
This is interesting. I think linebacker is one spot the Jets probably need to get more athletic. We all know about how they struggle against tight ends. They arge paying David Harris big money to be the run stuffer at linebacker. As good as Bart is against the run, Harris' ideal partner would probably be strong in coverage. A linebacker who can cover is a necessity considering how the Patriots utilize Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez. Scott has to leave the field against passing heavy teams.
The timing of this feels a bit odd, though. Getting rid of Scott would actually cost the team over $1 million in salary cap space. Maybe there is something going on behind the scenes.
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Maybe there is something going on behind the scenes.
As in trade? Can we package together Bart Scott, Cro, and Holmes?
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Who is Rod Boone?
And has his “source” had any traction in the past?
by EVT on Jan 1, 2012 10:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Newsday
very credible.
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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Just saw that
Thanks, honestly hadn’t heard of him.
by EVT on Jan 1, 2012 10:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Call me crazy, i think it's worth keeping him
he’s one of the closest things we have left to a “leader”.
by darshv3 on Jan 1, 2012 10:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Good Point!
this is honestly a very good point and the Jets seriously lack leadership. Although Bart is DONE as a starter (and i love this guy) voices in the locker room are very underrated. Holmes made an embarrassment of himself today and it shows how important a good leader can be in riling up the troops. Bart can just do it from the sideline or the locker room, he can be like the defenses’ LT. Losing a mil in capspace isn’t worth is (remember they have to repay Revis again this year!)
by Jesse is Raww on Jan 1, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Short term loss to clear a big hit off the cap
Scott has played very well at times but he’s getting way too much money for what he does and to be a liability in certain situations. That said, cutting Scott makes ILB an immediate need because let’s face it, Josh Mauga or Garrett McIntyre starting is a disaster.
by J-Nasty on Jan 1, 2012 10:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
which we can't afford
we have too many other immediate concerns and we’re not in a position to be rebuilding the whole team from scratch.
I'm not advocating building from scratch
You can improve the team shopping the bargain bin and using the draft to where Scott’s hit is of little relevance… the question is if there’s a legit plan to replace him if that’s the avenue the team wants to take. Or you can keep him and just accept the fact that TEs will always be an issue for this D.
by J-Nasty on Jan 1, 2012 10:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Interesting...
Looks like things are already in motion and FO is getting to work. Let’s see what happens next.
Agreed
First FO move HAS to be to fire BS. He is just going to be the scapegoat.
Scapegoat? Are you on drugs? go back a lot of main page posts. Schotty hasn't had an offense that cleared top 20.
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overall?
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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seven years...
… of “Prevent Offense” impacts the entire team. Last years squad was stacked with talent and your argument is 11th last year and 16th in ’08? B. Schottenheimer “Must Go” and take M. Cavenaugh with him. The teams quickest to start the process will be in the best position to move on(B. Billick). The teams that act the quickest in firing the bad coaching will get a head start on those who wait.
I wasn't arguing that schotty should stay
I was just pointing something out. I hate him as much as anyone else does.
Very odd rumor. Bart has been quieter with his mouth this season.
He is still playing pretty well. Probably is overpaid though. Wasn’t made a captain I don’t think.
Could he be upset about being asked to take a pay cut then the team leaves $8 mill in cap space?
He is definitely not still playing well
You never hear his name and he only plays 2 downs since he can’t cover for shit.
by michael28102 on Jan 1, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Dont know how to feel about this
on the one hand, scott has been a huge part of this team’s reemergence. on the other, his production has dropped off significantly this season, and at times he seems to disappear. i dont think that we should make this move right away though. We need to wait and see who we can get to replace him first
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by Putnan Prince on Jan 1, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
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Dude is a huge hypocrite -carrying his bible with his preachers outfit. I used to go out to the clubs in D.C and Baltimore when I was younger and I could tell you some stories about that dude from back in the day. Yuck…
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As an on field player, he is losing a step
But as a leader he may be more valuable then we can see, the jets have cut leader type players in recent years and it hasn’t helped… Does anyone know how much money he is owed? That would probably sway my opinion one way or another
Maybe there is something going on behind the scenes.
He basically told Rex “take your big foot and put it in your mouth and shut up” used those words, said “we” but he sounded like he was talking to Rex.
Another vet leader is going to be removed from the team. Someone who speaks up. Rex will be “the leader” all the more.
If they're leaking this already, then they have to have a plan for his replacement in place.
Especially if its costing money to let him go. I’m wondering if they’re embracing the psycho and have Burfict targeted.
by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 10:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Probably they said "We are gonna get rid of Schott" and the reporter listening at the door heard "Scott"
Yeah, thats definitely it!!!
by CervezaVerde on Jan 1, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I think you're right
With all the other things that need to be fixed, why would they get rid of Bart “Can’t wait” Scott?
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Im inclined...
… to think you are right, lets go with that. Anything else does not make sense.
If rumors made roster decisions
The whole team will be gone by midnight
If we had gotten rid of him in the past I would have been all for it
but his play seems elevated, and he’d be a pretty sizable cap hit. I don’t like it.
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by Bro Namath on Jan 1, 2012 10:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
According to Manish
Bart Scott took $1M pay cut in base salary this year. Scheduled to earn $4.2M base in ‘12. Source tells me he won’t take another paycut #nfl
This might make some sense
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$5.95 cap number
$7.2 dead money if cut. Sounds like he has the upper hand here. And $5.95 is not egregious.
by CervezaVerde on Jan 1, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
we DON’T need change at inside linebacker, but we do need two outside linebackers to replace Thomas and Pace. I would keep bart. If we can improve the outside linebacker position , scott and Harris will be more productive.
It may be...
… the team is sold on ILB Hightower from ’Bama? I would be inclined to take him if OT Reif; DE Coples; OLB Upshaw and my favorite target S Barron were all off the draft board. This is way too early to start predicting war room scenarios so I am stumped here, it just does not make sense.
maybe there is some type of swap deal on the cards
maybe a team wants a vet LB ( eagles ) and are willing to swap a FS or RT for him .
would that change the cap situation ?
if its for you it won't pass you
Yeah, if he was traded, his contract goes with him
by CervezaVerde on Jan 1, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
are there teams out there who would trade/swap for scott
i would think the eagles , cowboy’s and lion’s could be in the hunt
if its for you it won't pass you
Maybe. But I'm not buying this rumor. If anything, maybe Scott is unhappy
with his role and his paycut, but at this point, I can’t see it being any further along then that
by CervezaVerde on Jan 1, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Tinley might have something.
Trade him to the Lions they are pretty much going for the evil crazy mofos and he’s pretty crazy.
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I still like Bart.
He has had a great year after all of the talk that he’s overrated. How would we fill his absence anyways?
I dont understand these rules, how can we possibly lose cap money by cutting a player? I can understand having to pay what hes owed and bite the bullet or whatever, but what does that have to do with ADDITIONAL cap space?
Guaranteed money, bonus money that is spread out across the contract
It automatically becomes due when you cut the player
by CervezaVerde on Jan 2, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
byebye Bart , Rex,s first mistake ...this is not Baltimore.
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I don't think he's going anywhere
He’s one of the few leaders the Jets have, and dumping leaders often proves counter productive. He was 4th on the team in tackles behind Eric Smith, David Harris, and Calvin Pace. He was 3rd in sacks with 4.5 on the year. He only caused 1 fumble.
They need to find a guy to groom behind him, and let him play, especially because you said they would have to eat the money if he left. He has played well, he just hasn’t made a lot of plays, or caused turnovers. Sometimes when you do your job well, other guys make the plays around you, and you make them look better. I think Scott should stay, and he will stay mostly because of the money. Cheaper to keep her. Maybe they chase an inside linebacker with talent like Maybin in the off season. Often theres college guys that lead the nation in tackling 4 straight years and don’t get drafted til late. The guy from Oregon this year, Lance Briggs from Chicago was another, and EJ Henderson from Maryland that’s played 10 years for the Vikings is another. All those guys play well for 4 years of college, and then get passed up because of other more athletic guys, then they come to the NFL and start for a decade. The Jets can find one of those guys this year in the 4th or 5th round to groom behind Scott and Harris.
your right Bart probably isnt going any where only because of his salary and the cap hit
but he wasnt a leader for the guys in the locker room this year because nobody listens to
a player who doesnt have a great impact on the field … Bart Scott said that himself (in so many words) when asked in an interview , why hes not talking that much this season , like he has done in the past and he said, " I havent been making the plays this year that Im used to making." he said something to that effect..
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And I dont think hes gonna make a lot more impact plays next year … thats why I was saying byebye , because its gonna be like he aint there anyway if he has another year like he had this go around.
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*The guy from Washington, not Oregon+
Mason something. He started for Washington and had 140+ tackles a year at ILB, and made plays. He got drafted in the 4th round by some team.
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