Will Matt Cavanaugh Pay With His Job for Mark Sanchez's Lack of Development?
by John B on Jan 1, 2012 7:44 PM EST
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PrintOne player Mark Sanchez is frequently compared with is Eli Manning. It is a natural comparison. Both are quarterbacks who were high Draft picks for their New York teams. Sanchez's early career statistic resemble Manning's greatly. So does a lot of the scrutiny for struggles through their first three years. Both achieved team success but came under a big microscope for a lack of development and suspect accuracy and decision making. Look at the archives for Giants websites in 2006, and it is scary how much they are like comments here this year about Sanchez.
These comparisons do not guarantee a similar outcome. Mark and Eli are two different people on two different teams. I am not sure how anybody can watch Sanchez and feel confident he is going to develop into a top ten quarterback. One overlooked aspect of how the Giants nurtured Eli might be worth examining, though.
Many have commented about the Giants replacing offensive coordinator John Hufnagel with quarterbacks coach Kevin Gilbride. They also replaced Gilbride with Chris Palmer, an experienced coach. As much as we talk about the coordinators developing players, they get their most individual attention from their position coaches. Manning gave Palmer a lot of credit in his development as a player.
While the Jets almost certainly will be in the market for a new offensive coordinator, if they are going to continue with Mark Sanchez, they might be well advised to look at getting a quarterbacks coach with a track record of grooming young quarterbacks. Sanchez looked lost on the field at the end of the year as though he did not know what to do with the football. It did not seem like he trusted what he saw when it came to coverages. There were times where it almost felt like he was about to throw the ball and then thought about it and didn't because he was afraid to make a mistake. I think if the Jets plan on going forward with Sanchez, they are going to need to break him down to square one and reteach him the position.
It really does not sound like the Jets have been terribly thorough with Sanchez. Every time he has a bad game, they announce to the world an answer like ground and pound, a color coded risk taking system, Mark Brunell getting first team snaps, or a buzzer that goes off if he holds it too long. It seems like his head is swimming out there trying to just not screw up. He doesn't seem now to understand things that it felt like he was grasping last year. It doesn't feel like the coach is getting through to his player.
It might not be all on Cavanaugh, but his track record is not sterling. Do you know what his last two jobs were? He was offensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens. I am talking about the Trent Dilfer version. He was the mastermind of the offense people point to in order to prove you can win the Super Bowl with a horrible offense. His units stayed bad under Elvis Grbac. Then he was given the task of developing Kyle Boller. Cavanaugh moved on to the University of Pittsburgh as offensive coordinator. He started Tyler Palko over Joe Flacco.
Coaching might not be the problem. If the team thinks Sanchez is the solution, though, finding a seasoned quarterbacks coach might be one of the most important moves of free agency.
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Accuracy....
The issue I see with Sanchez his first 3 years is accuracy. He’s not that accurate. I am thinking that Cavanaugh is teaching about reads when he need more emphasis on accuracy. I was fine with him until the Denver game. I gave on him when he threw the pick six in that game but life is about second chances. I say we need to give him one more year but bring in someone that can challenge him for his starting position.
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Excellent breakdown
What poisoned Sanchez was.
1. Rex’s the Defense wins games, the offense just don’t blow them.
2. Schotty’s “the short pass is the safe play” answer to 1.
3. Lack of protection from both the RB and the OL.
4. A turnover of a big portion of the WR core.
5. Lack of commitment to running the ball.
6. Drilling the “check down” into Sanchez’s head.
While Sanchez never has been an accurate short pass QB, FORCING him to become one actually made him less accurate because of the confidence it drained out of him. Sanchez eroded as a QB as the season went on, a sign that the entire way of handling him was at fault.
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Well said. He seems so gun shy, and he wasn’t like that when he came in. They reeled him in, and they did so too much.
But at the same time, he routinely misses wide open throws and I don’t know how u can coach around that.
Its hard to tell if its the chicken or the egg here, so I guess u gotta axe the cheaper of the two. Hopefully next year he makes a jump without Schotty around to muck it up.
by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 8:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
He lacks...
… confidence when he should elude it. The idea of being afraid to throw the ball downfield allows the defense to prevent the underneath passes(slants and crossing routes). The T.E. should not lead the team in receptions and yards. I have seen B. Schottenheimer/M. Cavenaugh combine to form an offense I call “Prevent”. M. Sanchez does well in play action and when rolling out, without being held back I see a great QB appearing to be lost at times. This season(8-8)will go far in ensuring changes are made within the coaching staff. Each and every coach will be evaluated as well as the available coaches. This is the time to fix the problems, the weaknesses need to be corrected so they do not exist in 2012. Every coach must be held accountable on both sides of the ball, the replacements will be available in record numbers(like the marines, this team needs a few good men). The players contracts will be evaluated, I would think M. Sanchez would give up his Bonus(8.5 mil)if the Jets could get an additional WR with speed and an O.R.T. capable of keeping him protected.
Correct
What about that annoying double-pump he’s developed. It doesn’t appear that it’s designed to freeze the safeties. it looks more like a nervous tic.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
You should be in charge of the "Excuses for Sanchez" blog.Myself,I've seen enough! Release Mark !
Sanchez will never be a top-flight QB!
by Putnan Prince on Jan 1, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately...
Cavanaugh helped get DC, Mike Pettine in the NFL, but it’s a business as they say, but who knows what that means…
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sanchez is gonna be great from here on out
just ask drew brees. he was fighting to keep his job when he was in san diego with schotty. now look at him, he is a freakin beast
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until the actual announcement.
What if it doesn’t happen?
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Brees is one of the most accurate QBs in the league.
Sanchez can’t even dream of being that accurate. He has a lot of potential strengths, but accuracy does not dramatically improve.
Brees had a completion % of 58% his first 3 years in the leauge
Check the stats, Sanchez has a completion % of 55% its really not that much better lol.
don’t read the stats, open your eyes!
Brees is pinpoint. The receiver ALWAYS gets the ball in stride. Sanchez throws it somewhere around the receiver. It isn’t even close. All kinds of things influence percentage. But accuracy is about putting the ball exactly where you want it to be.
I have my eyes open...with Schotty as his OC Drew Brees was so good they benched him, drafted a new QB, and then ran him out of town...nothing says pinpoint like spending the number one overall pick on a QB and then running your current QB out of town.
If Brees was so “money” his first three years why on earth would they do that. When I look at Brees those first three years I see a talented player with an idiot OC who had no idea how to use him or develop him. (Not to mention he had a good O line and LT in his prime to help him out.) When I look at Sanchez I see the same thing…if we really want to ground and pound it Sanchez is a great QB for this team. He has a really good play action fake, can throw on the run, and (Not so much this year with the departure of Bray) throws a nice deep ball to make big plays. That is exactly what a ground and pound team needs, if you pair him with a tall, fast, deep threat, who is a good blocker they make the perfect WR/QB pair for a ground and pound team.
They can make big plays on play action and stretch the field which is really the perfect compliment to a killer running game. We should have kept Bray over Holmes because he had better chemistry and fit better with out team. Holmes fits better with the system that Schotty is trying to force on this team of shot 3-5 yard precision passes and a QB that throws the ball 50-60 times a game.
I feel ya on your Brees/Sanchez point but
I thought Schotty was Brees QB coach
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I think that proves your point even more
Schotty is taking credit for Brees success as a QB but he didn’t become the elite QB we see now until he got away from the Schotty bunch.
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“Schottenheimer will steadfastly continue to emphasize this form of offensive attack while attempting to hold on to a thin lead or when playing from behind – often with negative results.”…That was written about his dad but I think you’ll find it applies perfectly to our Schottenheimer as well…
I think that family is cursed
I wonder if a Schotty will ever win a ring. Oh wait didn’t Marty win a championship this year?
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The problem with the Schotty system is they play not to loose...
I know it sounds like a cliche, but seriously Schotty doesn’t play to win the game, he plays not to loose. How many times have you seen us nurse a 4 point lead for two quarters only to loose it and then have the offense go down and score a TD in a minute or two.(It even happened in today’s game) Schotty will dick off until he has no choice but to let Sanchez and the Offense play aggressively and throw the ball down field. This is why the Jets never ever put teams away(unless the Defense does it), once we get a small lead we just start going through the motions and killing clock, making our D come out series after series and make stop after stop. Its a really shitty philosophy and a stupid way to try and win games. The only reason it worked the last two years is because our O line was stacked and we had decent RBs…so we could actually move the ball and score points by running 60-70% of the time.
I guarantee Brees never threw multiple INTS to linemen in a single game (despite his height), and that he could throw the swing pass to the RB.
Sanchez is probably the most uncomfortable short pass throwing QB I have ever seen. He throws it high, he throws it behind, he checks down very, very fast. I’ve never seen a QB turn the safest pass in in the NFL into a huge TO risk.
They are not comparable QBs.
I agree on Sanchez’s strengths, but the truth is he has weaknesses that Brees never had.
I’ve never seen a QB turn the safest pass in in the NFL into a huge TO risk.
And then he’ll make a difficult play look easy. I’m going to lose my hair watching that guy play.
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Thats my point...he needs to be coached and taught how to play correctly..
He needs someone to actually work with him instead of giving him a wristband, a buzzer, a slap on the ass, and sending him out there…Sanchez has a skill set that can make him a highly successful NFL QB if someone were to tailor a system around his strengths and help him develop as a QB.
We have all seen the flashes of brilliance and the flashes horrible decision making. I am by no means advocating that Sanchez is a perfect QB at this point or that he will ever be. I am saying that Sanchez can be a successful QB and for us to kick him to the curb because of our trash QB coach and OC would be a mistake. We have so many more/greater needs then QB right now it isn’t even funny.
tomorrow
BS is gettng fired that I am sure of.
by Gerber on Jan 1, 2012 8:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Perhaps nothing is more telling than this.
Do you know what his last two jobs were? He was offensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens. I am talking about the Trent Dilfer version.
They tried to turn out gunslinger “Jim Plunkett” into the worst QB to ever win the Super Bowl.
Mike T or even Woody is to blame for forcing Schotthead on the Jets
Ryan had no say in having him as OC, Mike T should have let him go to Cleveland with Mangini when Mangini requested him as OC for the Browns
If you want to be an elite team, you need to be doing everything in your power to win.
I want to know how ownership, Rex and Tannenbaum could look someone in the eye and say that for the past three years there has been nobody available for QB coach than Cavanagh (I’d ask the same about the OC position).
It boggles my mind that the Jets would think that the best person to handle a young, developing QB would be a guy with no track record of successfully grooming a young QB. WTF?!?
by square1 on Jan 1, 2012 10:28 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I think they wanted Sanchez to have some continuity
And well….he got it. Same shit different year.
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Sanchez not good enough
Look Sanchez is definitely not the man to carry this team, he was not the reason they went to two AFC championship the defense and running game took them there all Sanchez had to do is manage the game but now that he was called upon to carry the team he couldn’t do it and what makes it worse is he should have atleast known how to read defenses and throw the ball away before getting sacked but he couldnt do either after 3 years of being a starter. The Jets Defense did not lose the AFC championship either quit telling that lie yes they had a bad first half but so did Sanchez because the offense only got a field goal which made it the second time in back to back AFC championship in which the Jets got shut out offensively for a whole half of the game. anyways the defense step up in the second half shutting out pit. if sanchez didn’t fumble for a TD before the half the Jets would have won that game. people need to stop babying sanchez and let him start taking responsibility for his actions because all he really knows is how to mess around with models and high schools girls same problem he had in college when he was accused of Rape and USC blew that one off.
but why was Sanchez asked to carry the team?
There was no reason to go away from ground and pound.
Jets proved they could win with defense and solid running game.
But Jets brain trust decided it made sense to switch to a pass-heavy offense even though QB had shortened pre-season and new receivers.
Sanchez is a QB with a 78 QBR. That’s better than last year, but it is what it is. Jets can win with him, but shouldn’t have assumed he would be top ten QB this year. If Jets had stuck with ground and pound they would be at least 10-6 and in playoffs.
by square1 on Jan 1, 2012 11:12 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Sanchez stats 26td's and about 3,500 yds, only bad part is 18ints and untold fumbles
statistically except for the turnovers he has been one the best QB’s the Jets have had in their history, to think the Jets would consider moving him with the Nut job OC is preposterous, would be even worse seeing him win a SB somewhere else with a better OC, like Jim Plunkett with did the Raiders after the Pats got rid off him
Alot of those TD’s came from some spectacular catch made by the receivers because Sanchez threw it to high, behind them or lead them to much but they still caught it. plus when the D plays well enough to stop the opposing team deep in their territory or great ST plays. But the majority of the time when Sanchez has to go the length of the field the offense usually goes 3 and out.
Sanchez is not even in the top 5 QB's in Jet history! Mark was exposed this year and I don't want to hear
his meaningless stats.He played descent in probably 6 games and any quality QB would have won 10 games with the Jets schedule.ENOUGH!
by Putnan Prince on Jan 1, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Alot of the turn overs came from balls bouncing off the WR’s hands or the O line(Wayne Hunter I’m looking at you) playing like garbage…
No it did not and wayne wasnt the guard the last 2 years when Sanchez was fumbling all over the place yea wayne is not starter material but that dosnt excuse the QB from still reading Defenses or being accurate ask Cutler or Rodgers about being sacked 30+ times a season.
Cavanagh
I have been mentioning this guy nearly every time I post. This guy is one of the worst offensive minds in all of football. How he has a job at all is something I will never understand.
It is extremely important for the Jets to hire a good QB coach because Sanchez will never fully develop learning from an idiot like this.
i was fortunate enough to play on two winning teams ,…. the coaches always had drills . and drills do exactly what they say/are , they drill an aspect of the game into your head till it wreaks during gametime . the hut hut drill was one ,…and after an hour of coach screaming out cadances and taking laps , noone jumped offsides on Sunday . the db don’t drill was another . 3 dbs against 1 wr and the qb had to throw away from the dbs . 30 or 40 times and he was groomed . i wonder what exactly goes on during the week in the nfl.
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