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2012 New York Jets Mock Draft

Why so soon? because I'm already bored of talking about the 2011 Jets and the problems, the problems have been there all year, and we have analysed them all year. Last time I wrote for GGN I suggested that missing the play-offs was not a terrible thing because we are a .500 team. A lot of people disagreed, but the undeniable fact is that we are a .500 team and we have missed the play-offs. So lets not sit around and moan about it, be sad; then look forward to 2012 and competing for a division title and the Superbowl.

After I wrote my last draft just over a month ago, I did say that I would be following it up after the season with a new one. The chips have now fallen, the Jets have missed the play-offs, Brian Schottenheimer will surely be on his way and the process begins. How do we fill the problem areas on the team without surrendering talent in other areas. It’s a tough ask and although my confidence in Mike Tannenbaum is not what it once was after last off-season. I still believe we are extremely close to being that Super Bowl challenger that we want to be. Obviously I have no idea what we might do in free agency or via trades with other teams and whatever moves we make there will effect the draft choices.

However in my mind there is one move I would like to see us make through trade or free agency and that’s to bring in a RT. I know in my last mock I had a RT as the first overall selection but since then, my theory has evolved. I think a veteran presence on the line is what is needed, so offensive line talent won’t feature early on this draft. I’ve also had a look through previous drafts to look for round + Position = Value selections. To see if there are any trends towards which positions yield better players based on where they are selected. So do you normally need to select a receiver higher in the draft, can you afford to leave positions like offensive line, defensive line to later in the draft. With everything considered, here is what I have ended up with. I’ve tried to not let bowl performances override a seasons worth of evaluation but on occasions that can happen. As always let me know what you think, do you like it, hate it or just think I’m losing my mind:

Getting everyone to agree on a mock draft is impossible, but here goes!

Star-divide

First Round Selection: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

Current Jets WR’s: Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes, Patrick Turner, Jeremy Kerley

Ouch! That is the first thought that comes to me when I look at that receiving core. Sanchez is struggling and there are a lot reasons for that. One of them is this receiving core. Santonio is a big talent (but a terrible captain). Plaxico is a target in the redzone but doesn’t have the same skill set as he once did, makes him les effective. Patrick Turner is well Patrick Turner, I don’t think he offers us much to be honest. Kerley has the potential to be an effective slot receiver and I’m looking forward to seeing how he developes.

Saying all that, it looks to me as though the Jets are crying out for a young target receiver, a physical presense with a well rounded skill set. Step up Michael Floyd who has absolutely everything the Jets need. He is a big receiver at 6’3 and 225lb’s.He has deceptive speed especially on vertical routes, long strides and his physicality makes him extremely hard to press off the line. He has excellent hands and locates the ball over his shoulder extremely well. One of his best attributes is adapting to the ball while in the air. He snatches passes out of the air and has a long frame.

I was most impressed with his performances with a pro style quarterback in Jimmy Clausen and a pro style offence under Charlie Weis. He does need to be more willing to pop the block on the outside, but he doesn’t shy away from contact and does his fair share of blocking. He runs his routes well, especially the quick slant routes which he can really open up into bigger plays. He has experience running the route tree. Some small character issues based on some underage drinking (I don’t really count underage drinking at college as much of a problem, I do count driving after drinking as a problem, but he’s not a problem child).

The Jets would be getting a great compliment to Santonio Holmes here, he would help Sanchez a lot as he seems to be able to adapt to balls that are a little off and he has that physical presense after the catch that can pick up a few extra yards. I am a Notre Dame fan, but I can honestly say that I don’t think I’m being biased with this evaluation of him.

Season

Receptions

Yards

Average

TD’s

2011

100

1147

11.5

9

2010

79

1025

13.0

12

2009

44

795

18.1

9

2008

48

719

15.0

7

Michael Floyd Career Highlights (via Irishfootball25)

Second Round Selection: Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State

Current Jets OLB’s: Calvin Pace, Bryan Thomas, Aaron Maybin, Ricky Sapp, Jamaal Westerman, Garret McIntyre

The Jets OLB’s consist of players getting on in years, Calvin Pace will be 32 in 2012 and Bryan Thomas will be 33 and coming off a torn Achilles injury which has kept him out of the majority of this season. Then we have the nothing spectacular in Westerman, the project in Maybin and the largely unproven in Sapp and McIntyre. It’s not hard to see why a little talent is required. We need to pressure the QB without needing to bring the house. Our defensive line got a lot younger in 2011 and has a lot of potential and talent, now we need to add to the next level.

By all accounts Jenkins a junior has submitted papers to the NFL to enquire about his draft stock. I think he is a 2nd round prospect and he may elect to return to Florida State for his senior year to try and cement a 1st round selection. If he does opt to move into the NFL though, I think he has great upside for any team looking for OLB talent in the second round.

Largely a defensive end at Florida State he doesn’t have the bulk or strength to stay here in the NFL. He is tailor made for a 3-4 team looking for a speed rusher on the outside. He does show a lot of moves but not consistently. He has a spin, swim and rip move but due to his speed being so effective, he has rarely had to use anything else in NCAA to get to the quarterback. He is the quickest rusher off the snap in this draft in my opinion and has excellent closing speed and wrap up ability for open field tackles.

Hasn’t been asked to play coverage in college but he has lateral quickness, and a long frame and surely can adjust to this aspect of the game at the next level. He isn’t a polished player, not by any means. He has terrific upside, a great motor and shows a lot of desire to get into the backfield. I think he offers that pass rushing pace off the edge, and can eventually develop into a complete OLB.

He should be forcing more fumbles but he can be taught to try and strip the ball quite easily at the next level. I like explosiveness, I like hunger and I like tackling ability with my OLB’s and this guy has each of those.

Season

Total Tackles

Solo Tackles

Sacks

Forced Fumbles

Interceptions

2011

41

29

8.0

0

0

2010

56

38

13.5

1

0

2009

10

6

0.00

0

0

FSU DE Brandon Jenkins Junior Season Highlights (via RajonRondoShow)

Third Round Selection: Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford

Current Jets TE’s: Dustin Keller, Josh Baker, Matthew Mulligan

This is going back to my draft position, value equation. The Patriots draft tight ends frequently; one athletic pass catching tight end represents a difficult matchup for any defense. Two athletic tight ends on the same field is a matchup nightmare. The Jets have an athletic freak in Dustin Keller, Josh Baker is a little unknown and Matthew Mulligan really is a throw in backup who is liable to commit some very silly mistakes.

Coby Fleener has had the luxury of being sourced with footballs from the best college quarterback since Peyton Manning in Andrew Luck. However we can’t take away from the talent of Coby based on his quarterback. He has excellent in line blocking skills, good but not elite speed and the softest hands of any tight end in the draft. He lines up all over the field and he does a great job sitting in coverage and protecting the football.

By all accounts he has an excellent football IQ and if you look at any highlight video I think you will see he gets a good release off the line and he really does run crisp clean routes. He sells the double move and once he has the ball in his hands he has the speed and acceleration to turn up field and turn a 5-6 yard pass into a 15 yard completion. He won’t be breaking 50 yard completions on the regular but his above average blocking ability and his pass catching ability gives him a duel threat that teams will find hard to scheme against.

I’m not sold that he won’t be taken at this point, and we may need to draft up to select him. However if the Jets were to take Fleener, he would be another safety blanket for Sanchez who is very good throwing between the hashes. Keller and Fleener lined up in the same formation causes a whole lot of problems for any defense. Just imagine a formation with Homes and Floyd on the outside and Fleener and Keller on the inside. Good luck defenses.

Season

Receptions

Yards

Average

Long

TD

2011

32

648

20.3

62

10

2010

28

434

15.5

58

7

2009

21

266

12.7

42

1

2008

13

176

13.5

32

0

Coby Fleener #82: Highlights (via StanfordFball)

Fourth Round Selection: Kenny Tate, FS, Maryland

Current Jets FS’s: Eric Smith, Brodney Pool, Tracy Wilson

Where to start here? Firstly I was wrong about Brodney Pool; I thought he could really flourish under Rex Ryan and become the long term answer at Free Safety. It hasn’t happened and I can only imagine that he hasn’t impressed in training either, if Eric Smith gets selected before you, then you are not the long term answer. Eric Smith is a back-up strong safety and shouldn’t be anywhere close to the free safety role. We haven’t got anyone. So why not draft one earlier?

I don’t personally believe that there are any safeties worth taking in the first three rounds. None of them represent value at the position. I have cooled on Martin and I honestly think that you are splitting hairs choosing between the top free safety prospects in this draft, so why over reach. Not for me, I think Kenny Tate is as good as any free safety in this draft, and is the cover ball hawk that we need on this team.

Nobody is hyping him like a lot of safeties, and at 6’4 and 220lb’s I don’t understand it. When the NFL combine comes along, don’t be surprised to see Kenny top safeties in the vertical jump category. He has great leaping ability which means that he can match up with tight ends in coverage. He has good but not lightning speed, but the one thing I look for in safeties is their closing speed, the break from back pedal to closing and recognition. I really like this guy, it’s not enough for a safety to run fast and hit hard. Like I said when Taylor Mays was on board, you can run as fast as you like and hit as hard as you like, if you are running in the wrong direction due to poor recognition and bad angles you won’t be hitting the person you need to be.

One other thing I like about Kenny, he has a high IQ. Call me a broken record, but I love football guys and not just athletic freaks. He doesn’t often get drawn in by play action and he is a wrap up tackler. He won’t run himself out of a play looking for the highlight reel safety. The more I watch this guy play, the more I like him. It makes absolute logical sense for the Jets to be in on Tate. He is a clean reliable safety. My favorite picks this entire mock draft.

I know that Maryland moved him to linebacker in 2011, but I think he is a free safety in the NFL. He made an impression as a linebacker and he is a little hybrid. However if you focused him to the free safety role I think he could really be a unique player. He missed a lot of the 2011 season with injury and as far as I am aware Maryland have not confirmed the injury. He has been granted a medical hardship waiver, which means that although he was a senior in 2011 he can return for another year. I hope he doesn’t.

Season

Total Tackles

Solo Tackles

Forced Fumbles

Sacks

Interceptions

2011

35

20

1

0.0

2

2010

90

51

3

3.5

3

2009

41

22

0

1.0

1

2008

15

10

0

0.0

1

Football: Kenny Tate National Award Candidate (via MarylandAthletics)

Fifth Round Select: Don Barclay OT, West Virginia

Current Jets OT’s: D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Wayne Hunter, Vladimir Ducasse & Austin Howard

Although I do believe that Ferguson has regressed a little in 2011, I don’t think there is any doubt that he is one of the premier left tackles in the league. He has his off days like any player, but when it comes down to it he can hold his own against any pass rusher in the league. Right tackle on the other hand is a problem area, as I mentioned at the start I think a veteran presence at that position would suit the Jets in 2012. I don’t think that Vladimir Ducasse will ever be an everyday NFL player, it’s just my instinct and opinion from what I have seen. I think it was a mistake drafting such a raw player, would love to be proven wrong. So with a veteran at RT in 2012, we need to have an heir apparent in the wings learning the tricks of the trade.

Don Barclay is an extremely talented player, who has manned the left tackle position for West Virginia the last two years. He has a lot of strength and agility and in many ways looks very similar in playing style to Brick. He keeps his hands high, his feet agile and his QB clean. He has very good lateral ability, and is much more adept at pass protection than run blocking.

He is by no means a finished article, but you are never getting a finished NFL ready player in the 5th round. If he was asked to start from day one, I am sure that he would give a good account of himself. He works too hard not to, but a year sitting and learning the zonal blocking scheme that the Jets like to run on the offensive line would be an excellent route to take with an athlete like Barclay

DON BARCLAY (via Mountaineers360)

Sixth Round Selection: Tramain Thomas, FS, Arkansas

Current Jets FS’s: Eric Smith, Brodney Pool, Tracy Wilson

It was only when I was looking at the earlier selection of Tate that I realized just how limited we were in the secondary at safety. It really does need addressing and I don’t think one draft selection is enough. Brodney might not be back, Eric Smith is anyone’s guess. So I thought why not add some more depth with another ball hawk in Thomas. Now personally I think he is a much better player than a 6th round selection. However I have looked at a lot of mock drafts and all have him going between the 5th and 7th round.

Thomas is a center fielder, and doesn’t really mix it up at the line. He is in some regards the Kerry Rhodes type player. Is most comfortable facing the play in front of him. The thing about Thomas is that he has very average foot speed, he tackles high and doesn’t play with any anger or any real aggression. He has a lot of limitations, but for some reason his ability to find the ball in the air intrigues me a lot. You are not going to teach speed, but you can teach tackling and you can get someone to play with aggression. He can get beat, but as you can see, he can also change a game with an interception.

Season

Tackles

Solo Tackles

Sacks

Interceptions

Forced Fumble

2011

88

44

0.0

5

1

2010

73

46

0.5

4

4

2009

32

17

0.0

3

1

2008

28

17

0.0

0

0

Tramain Thomas (via morefia1989)

Seventh Round Selection: Chris Galippo, ILB, USC

Current Jets ILB’s: Bart Scott, David Harris, Josh Mauga, Nick Bellore

I can’t be the only Jets fan who has been completely underwhelmed by the Bart Scott, David Harris partnership in 2011. It seems that most large running plays go straight up the middle. I love both of these guys and Galippo is certainly not going to start over either one. However I think we do need to start thinking about depth. I haven’t seen a lot of Bellore and I do like Mauga when he is healthy but in the later rounds I always like to take some defensive depth.

He doesn’t do anything great, but he does a lot of things well. He is a very strong linebacker who does well finding the ball. He has strong arms, so if he gets a hold of you; it’s not often you are gaining any extra yardage. He has good lateral ability and he keeps his eyes on the QB. Doesn’t often get fooled by play-action. I like that he comes from USC, although as a Notre Dame fan I can’t stand them, I have a great respect for their program.

I just think he could do some work on special teams and actually has the potential to be an eventual replacement for Bart. You never know with drafting players this late, sometimes you can catch lightning in a bottle. Usually players become serviceable as back-ups and special teams contributors. I like Galippo here.

Season

Total Tackles

Solo tackles

Sacks

Forced Fumbles/INT

2011

47

20

1.5

0/1

2010

29

22

1.0

3/2

2009

67

32

1.0

2/2

2008

12

5

0.0

0/1

2007

8

5

0.0

0/0

.

USC LB #54 Chris Galippo Highlights 2009 (via CaliforniasGold)


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Enough with the WR talk

we have far bigger needs than WR and Floyd is extremely overrated. Holmes, Kerley, Turner and a mid round draft pick will be fine if we hire a good offensive coordinator. Must be a lot of Notre Dame fans around here with all this Michael Floyd talk.

We need to use our early picks on a pass rusher and a real safety as well as offensive line depth. It would also help if this team upgraded its team speed because we are slow as can be. We also need more depth so we should consider trading down and accumulating more picks.

I only believe in drafting first round receivers when you have special talents like an Andre Johnson or calvin Johnson type available. Sorry but Michael Floyd is notyhing special and I will be extremly upset if we waste a first round pick on him or any other receiver in this draft.

by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 1, 2012 6:13 PM EST reply actions  

we need a deep threat

but we can pick up a decent deep threat in the third or fourth round. we should draft Mark Barron from alabama. safety is a much more needed position.

by revis24fan on Jan 1, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yes we do but...

we can find WR with fast legs and decent hands in free agency… why waste a draft pick???

by JragonEyez on Jan 1, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

No early pick for WR

We should do everything we can to get Edwards back. He had a chemistry with Mark that no other WR had, Since he had a bad year with the 49’ers he would not be as expensive as he would have been last year, We have no idea if a new WR would have any chemist with Mark. Edwards was good for the Jets and Mark, and the Jets and Mark were good for him.

by viguy007 on Jan 1, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Mark Barron

Starting at safety could be our new Kerry Rhodes but better

by SantonioBurress on Jan 1, 2012 6:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

M. Barron...

… If available is my #1 target, I am seeing a player who is closer to Ravens safety E. Reed. Adding a (S) who is a punishing tackler that can be a ball hawk too. This guy would improve the team immediately and help shore up a major weakness, possibly making it a strength from year one. I would not be against taking B. Jenkins OLB/DE in rd#2 unless a BPA falls like a rock. The OL should be addressed and the OT pool is deep and a good one will be there in rd#2 as well and I do agree with adding a TE and the one from Stanford would be a good pick in rd 3 .
If L.T. is not retained does that warrant a pick, or do you repeat the D. Woody scenario? A good RB can be had in rd 4, and I would think a QB from Boise st. should get attention in rd #5, then turn your attention to UM and take a look at a WR and a LB that will play (S) in the NFL.
I like the idea of bringing back B.Edwards, a low risk high reward move. There is also some OLB/DE that would be tempting and an OT/S and QB/TE pretty much round it all out. First and foremost do not lose talent this year, fill as many holes as possible(needs first)with young players who will be here for the long haul.
I am also wondering but the point may be moot with the Giants leading the Cowboys(21-0). The Jets beat Dallas in wk. 1 and the Giants defeated the Jets last week. They are currently playing for the Division title, win and your in. I am wondering why it wouldn’t improve the Jets draft position if Dallas were to win? The Giants would be 8-8 too and they and the Cowboys should draft behind the Jets under that scenario.

by BachsOfRain on Jan 1, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

kenny tate isnt entering the draft. Hes returning to maryland

trust me, im a die hard terp fan.
For next year when he does enter, he is extremely good

by newjetfan on Jan 1, 2012 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

Kerley has proved that you don’t need to waste an early round draft pick on a wide receiver. Wide receivers can be found in any round and none of the wide receivers who are looking to go in the first round blow me out of the water. I think justin blackmon is going to be a huge bust. He drops far too many passes

by jets in flight on Jan 1, 2012 6:31 PM EST reply actions  

While I dont agree with everything written in the post, i will say David did a really nice job here.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

I like Floyd

A bad bowl game IMO doesn’t overshadow 4 years of being a top notch WR. Especially for Nick Toon, talk about non-explosive WRs…

by J-Nasty on Jan 1, 2012 6:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Love Floyd

Don’t understand how people could watch that guy play and not want him on ur team. He’s a stud and he’s a perfect fit.

by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 6:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Being a Nole, I would love us to take Jenkins

He has been playing more standing up this year, and has done well. Saying that, I think he should return to Tally for another year.

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by JaviLouis on Jan 1, 2012 6:52 PM EST reply actions  

IMO we should go OLB with 1st and 2nd round pick. We dont need WR desperately to use a first pick on one.

by overloadblitz on Jan 1, 2012 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with not needing to grab a WR in 1st round

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I really don't want to complain since this is such a nice mock with a lot of effort,

But I’m not liking the picks. I don’t think WR is the BEST in R1, and I doubt Jenkins slips to R2. Therefore, I think OLB needs to be hit in R1 and R2 could be either WR, OL, or S. That’s why I also don’t like the TE choice. I am really pumped to see what DK, a healthy Cumberland, and Josh Baker can do in the passing game. I think we need to hit our need positions in the first 3 rounds, at least. But still, I love this mock setup! Great job, I think it’s awesome just because of the descriptions and highlights!

by JetKing55 on Jan 1, 2012 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

NO PRESSURE

reading rex’s book you get an understanding of where our head coach’s mind is with the D, he is putting all his eggs on the back end, and giving Qb’s all day to throw, we get burned by matt freakin moore? It is time to quit messing around and go stud OLB in the 1st round, I would not mind picking up 2 this year just as a why not, we need pressure on the QB, I also wouldnt mind us getting a NT if there is talent there. FS is also an issue on D, but overall our team will be more successful if our D picks up our offense like it has the past 2 years.

by jjnewoc on Jan 1, 2012 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry David, but I'm not really a fan.

Personally, I don’t like Michael Floyd. But aside from that, I don’t think he falls to us. He has pretty much moved ahead of Alshon Jeffery on most boards so it would be more likely we take Jeffery, which I wouldn’t mind so much. I really think it should come down to RT or OLB in the first round….or trade down. The two guys I LOVE are Mike Adams the OT from Ohio St. and Courtney Upshaw, who has 34 experience already. Brandon Jenkins is good, but he doesn’t seem to be very physical. He relies a lot on straight line moves which will not work in the NFL. I must say, I hate the Coby Fleener pick. I realize tight ends are becoming gold in the NFL, but if this team needs to move towards a Super Bowl and adding a 2nd string tight end just doesn’t help achieve that goal. Maybe a wide receiver in the third round like Tommy Streeter, TY Hilton, or my personal favorite Brian Quick from App. State.. Now Kenny Tate is an attractive pick because you see a free safety who has linebacker experience and is nice and big. What wouldn’t the Jets love about him? His coverage skills are just as developed as E Smitty’s. He plays the run very well, but we need a safety who can learn to cover tight ends. Maybe Trenton Robinson from Michigan State or George Iloka from Boise State. Now the rest of your picks are depth picks, and it is kind of hard to argue against them. I do think that we should take a cornerback or a second wide receiver before we take an offensive tackle. DeQuan Menzie is someone I like as a sleeper pick. He is a cornerback from Bama who can come in and fill the #4 spot. He is very underrated. Just a personal touch: In round 7, I would really like a punter, whether it is Bryan Anger or Drew Butler. TJ Conley is bad, bad, and even worse. I would just feel better having a good, young punter with whom we’d know what we’d be getting, unlike Conley. It isn’t bad, per-say, but needs some tweaking. Obviously there is a ton of time to do so and it should be fun predicting some of these moves for the Jets in the coming months.

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 1, 2012 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

I don't like spending a #1 pick on a WR

Were the receivers the problem? No. It is a lack of identity. So long as Rex Ryan is in town, this will be a ground and pound team. You have a #1 in Holmes locked up for another 4 years, and Kerley slowly emerging. You have a struggling 3rd year QB who struggles for several reasons, but none of them because of the quality of targets around him.

The Jets need to go in and take the best player available in every round. We have poor depth in numerous places and we lack true competition for most roster spots.

What are the Jets needs to address in the draft?
Every down running back. McKnight could be a good third down back, but Shonn Greene struggles. Perhaps we target one in the mid to late rounds.

Developmental wide receiver. I dont see getting one until late in the draft.

Right Tackle. Get a good one, or wait and draft another developmental project not named Vlad.

  1. Tight End. It’s so sad that we have Mulligan actually making the 53 man roster. He committed more penalty yards this year than Burress had receiving yards. Get a good blocking TE will decent hands and you will effectively be able to run and play to Sanchez’s strength of play action pass.

Linebacker depth. We could use a good every down outside linebacker, but our depth in middle linebacker is quite weak. Bart Scott is declining, and we may want to try and develop someone.

Free Safety. I love having three strong safeties. Perhaps we could get one with range and who can cover a tight end?

My proposal:
1st- Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
2nd- Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
3rd- Evan Rodriguez, TE, Temple
4th- Neiko Thorpe, FS, Auburn
5th- Tauren Poole, RB, Tennessee
6th-Moe Petrus, OL, Uconn
7th- Quinn Sharp, K, Oklahoma State

by jets47 on Jan 1, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

i disagree about using another mid round on an rb, I think we either blow this draft up and trade up like the falcons to get richardson, or find a serviceable vet in free agency, not that i want our franchise trading away as much as the falcons did for julio, but I think if our FO thinks this kid is a young LT, or Peterson….I would not mind a bold move, but I do agree with you on greene, he is a 3rd and 4th quarter bruiser, use him to run over a tired D

by jjnewoc on Jan 1, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

If I am a GM

I absolutely NEVER, under ANY circumstances take a running back in the first round. You hear it all the time: running backs are a dime a dozen. And it is totally 100% true. Ahmad Bradshaw, Roy Helu, Fred Jackson, Brandon Jacobs….the list goes on. Then you look at some first rounders: CJ Spiller, Joseph Addai, Lawrence Phillips, Ki-Jana Carter..the dropoff is not that big. Not that big at all. It just is not worth it to take Richardson in the first.

"Show me a good loser and I'll show you an idiot."
Leo Durocher

by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Lt and AP are not dime a dozen, it is a gamble but so is every other position

by jjnewoc on Jan 1, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea eventually you'll strike gold

but Fred Jackson had a better year than AP. Also, this league is becoming a full on passing league. There are 3, YES 3, QBs who broke 5000 yards passing this season. Running Backs are becoming a dying breed. Why not go with the flow and take a wide receiver/qb/ol that will help in the passing game? Doesn’t make much sense to me.

"Show me a good loser and I'll show you an idiot."
Leo Durocher

by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

so you bring up the fact that there are running backs who are busts in the first rd and running backs who are good after the first round

yet the same exact thing can be said about every single position except for maybe qb. thats not an incredibly strong pt you have….

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Jan 1, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Not exactly

I am saying that it is boom or bust for a dying breed. The role of a running back is becoming much weaker in today’s league. You cannot deny that.

"Show me a good loser and I'll show you an idiot."
Leo Durocher

by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you that it is a passing game more these days, but when the identity of your team is supposed to be ground and pound i say lets embrace that. I would rather watch my team impose their will by running the ball down another teams throat than air it out, oh i dont know like 57 times in one game. Rex wants to be a running team, but i think schotty screwed up games that couldve been won if he would have just stuck to the grind it out run game

by jjnewoc on Jan 1, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's the really bad thing though

we have absolutely no identity right now. We have no idea who is running our offense next year and so unless we pick up an OC within a few weeks, we have no idea what the next step is.

"Show me a good loser and I'll show you an idiot."
Leo Durocher

by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

just wondering

does FA come b4 the draft ?
because if so our draft could look very different . if we sign a wr in FA or RT then they get pushed down our draft needs

if its for you it won't pass you

by tinley24 on Jan 1, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

hey tinley (jjnasty3) dont you wish we wouldve gone after marshall instead of putting all our eggs in the santonio basket? last couple of games i felt like some jet was sabbotaging the games, and now you hear about tone and his leadership in the huddles? man that is great for team chemistry!

by jjnewoc on Jan 1, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

not only that jj

2 2nd round picks was not much when you look at what the falcon’s gave up for jones . i wanted edwards back b4 holmes anyway

if its for you it won't pass you

by tinley24 on Jan 1, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice mention of Barclay, I think everyone knows I’m a big WVU fan and Barclay’s way underrated at tackle. I also think Bruce Irvine would be a good option as an OLB if you’re looking for a pass-rusher. That guy from Marshall’s good too.

I don’t think I’d draft a WR in the first round, that can be easily filled via free agency and you can probably pick up a quality developmental project later on – Kerley is good in the slot so you need someone who can provide a down-field threat. I hate Notre Dame so I refuse to acknowledge Floyd as decent.

by Scott Piazza on Jan 1, 2012 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

I hope that someone on the Jets took Santonio Holmes by the throat and put his head

through his locker after the game.Nobody should get away with what he did today.Woody take note!

by Putnan Prince on Jan 1, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

I like it, nice post.

The only thing i disagree with is the 2nd round pick. We have alot of areas to focus on, and if we were better then yes i would focus on that, but we more urgent problems then that position.

If someone tells you that you can't do it then f*** it. Keep doing.

by sanchise6 on Jan 2, 2012 1:06 AM EST reply actions  

I like Floyd and agree he'd be good at 16

If not though, a guy like McNutt from Iowa is another big target, and he can get deep. They have to upgrade there. But someone also needs to tell the QB to try to throw to the WR. I think he thinks he’s not allowed or something…

by David G on Jan 2, 2012 1:28 AM EST reply actions  

ouch

hell no i am not taking a wide out 1st when i got other pressing need like a pass rusher, safeties , and tackle.

by ejred3 on Jan 2, 2012 2:32 AM EST reply actions  

jets need mr chowder
mr crowder have no home

rod messley [cb1]

by Rod Messley on Jan 6, 2012 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

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