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Santonio Holmes Was in Verbal Altercation With Teammates in the Huddle

Putting together tweets from beat writers in the locker room for postgame discussion, it seems Santonio Holmes was pulled after getting into a verbal fight with a teammate, and something had been brewing for a long time.

Manish Mehta:

There were 2 separate incidents involving verbal jarring between Santonio Holmes & Jets' teammates in the huddle.

Matt Slauson on Jets' jarring in huddle: "It started off between Holmes & another guy. Then everybody came at each other. It was bad."

LT on Holmes: "There were some guys in huddle unhappy w/Tone’s demeanor. t’s tough for guys to follow a captain who behaves in that manner"

Jenny Vrentas:

Holmes' teammates questioned Holmes' passion, in this game and the season. Tomlinson this sparked an argument in huddle in 4Q.

Bob Glauber:

Santonio Holmes asked if he wants to return to the Jets next year. Doesn't answer question, walks off podium, says, "Thank you guys.

Holmes is not going anywhere. Cutting or trading him would cost the Jets $8.5 million in cap space, pretty much all of the cap space the Jets are entering the offseason with. It wouldn't be logical to do that just to get rid of a guy with the kind of talent Holmes has.

I think it's pretty clear there is a leadership void in the locker room. Tomlinson is right. This kind of thing probably wouldn't happen on a team with strong leadership. Even more, it is one of the leaders doing it. I think it also casts doubts on Mark Sanchez's leadership that his best receiver has been acting this way all year to the point it boiled over in the huddle as the season was on its last breath.

Mainly, though, I think this is just a product of frustration over losing. The big flap between Holmes and offensive line happened during a losing streak. Everything seemed fine once the Jets seemed to right the ship. Losing brings out frustration.

Holmes might be a diva, but his attitude falls far behind Mark Sanchez's lack of development, right tackle, safety play, and play calling in addition to other culprits for this disappointing season. Teams have won with him in the past. They probably will in the future.

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John don't sugar coat it-

sure Tone’s behavior had less (by far) to do with losing than Sanchez’ play, and a host of other players-but as a “captain” his behavior (and play) all year has been abysmal. Do you see him running hard on routes..ever? The guy is a cancer. His play has stunk, he loafs, and he repeatedly throws teammates and coaches under the bus. Too bad we overpaid and are stuck with him.

by Buzzy on Jan 1, 2012 5:55 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Don't think I'm sugar coating it.

Lack of leadership is meant to be a swipe at him considering his captain status. I do think diva receiver throws a fit when he’s not getting the ball is somewhat common, though.

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by John B on Jan 1, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

His play this year was also awful.

Tipped passes leading to INTs, fumbles, drops, loafing. It was not just lack of leadership.

by Buzzy on Jan 1, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

There were some pretty spectacular gaffes, especially near the end of the year. Better quarterbacking, though, and he has a big year. When you consider the penalty yardage he drew on top of his production, it wasn’t terrible considering the QB play.

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by John B on Jan 1, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes it was

Keller had more catches and yards, and Plax as many TDs. The double team excuse does not hold-at the end of the year he was hardly double teamed.

by Buzzy on Jan 1, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rex's fault

Look who Rex made captains on offence its like he doesnt even know who’s on that side of the ball …
His view of Holmes is the same view from when Rex was in B-more and Holmes was in Pitt and Holmes might not be that same guy, thou his numbers indicates hes not the same guy .Rex needs a reality check!
The other Captain “Mark Sanchez” that was laughable, wishfull thinking on Rex’s behalf. Mark doesnt hold any weight with that huddle he cant even read defences … think about it who can he tell to shut up when hes playing like hes been playing and the other part to that is his body language has always been poor, which makes him a bad choice for your team to follow.
The third Cptn was Moore, he was the better out of the three but even choosing Moore was hopefull thinking from a blind optimistic , Moore is a soft spoken kind of a guy by nature who was always under appreciated and they tried to throw him a bone .
Rex get a clue ….You really dont even need that many team captains …

The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!

by Benz Zito on Jan 1, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point.... should be given back to the players then

The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!

by Benz Zito on Jan 1, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you see the dumb airhead press conf. Rex and Mr. T tried to pull off

And they gonna actually say next season it will be no captains …OH MY Good lord! lol
He doesnt get it . See football is about earning everything you get and nobody can gift you team success and definitly not a coach trying to build a false bravodo for his team .
Rex is starting to worry me he thinks evrything has to have a gimmick to it . smdh…

The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!

by Benz Zito on Jan 3, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Catastrophe..

That’s all that can be said of him and this lousy season as a whole.

by winnebagosun on Jan 1, 2012 5:57 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

disgraceful

i wonder how much pot this dope (pun intended) smoked this season :(

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Jan 1, 2012 6:02 PM EST reply actions  

Hopefully,Holmes goes out and lights up a doobie,fails a drug test,gets suspended for a year and the Jets

can release him outright and not suffer the salary cap hit.I sincerely hope someone stands up and puts Holmes head through his locker..Woody has to be fuming over this jerk.

by Putnan Prince on Jan 1, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

trade him

get some value in return like a draft pick and just get him off our hands

here are some wide recievers that are free agents this offseason that i think the jets should sign 1 or 2 of these guys

dwayne bowe
stevie johnson
vincent jackson
Danny Amendola
Mario Manningham
Jordy Nelson
Jerome Simpson

also plax is a free agent but i rather look at younger recievers that sanchez can grow with

also with plax takign 3 mill and holmes taking 10 that adds up 2 13 mill a year for the #1 and 2 recievers and i think the jets can sign both dwayne bowe and stevei johnson for 7 mill a year and have a MUCH better recieving options

by MrMartain on Jan 1, 2012 6:03 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

If we trade him, signing any of those guys becomes infinitely less likely.

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by John B on Jan 1, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

i understand we would have a salary cap hit if we drop him by why do we have a salary cap hit if we trade him, shouldn’t his whole salary go 2 the team which trades for him?

by MrMartain on Jan 1, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You're complaining and want to trade him

For Stevie Johnson. Made me lol.

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by B.Rush on Jan 1, 2012 6:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Stevie Johnson is an LOL

He single handedly gave us the Buffalo game with penalties and drops. That would be like Miami signing Schottenheimer

by Clarke W. Griswald on Jan 1, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Wes Welker also entering FA and

has friends in the Jets organization.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 1, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He of all WRs

needs a QB that can read Defences ,anticipate throws in tight windows, and accuracy!

The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!

by Benz Zito on Jan 1, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

This feels like carryover from..

When Derrick Mason was released. If other teammates are saying this has been the whole season, wasn’t it Mason, Holmes and Plax who were bringing complaints forward because of Schitty’s playcalling and offensive gameplans? Derrick was benched that game and then released the next day or two.

by winnebagosun on Jan 1, 2012 6:08 PM EST reply actions  

Mason was scapegoated.

Of the 3, Jets had the least invested in Mason. Mason wasn’t suppose to be more than a #3 WR. Plus Mason made a real ass of himself with that comment suggesting Belichick was acting racist towards him, making him all the more expendable.

Burress by contrast was suppose to be their new #2 and Santonio was suppose to be their #1 superstar who they’re tied at the hip to. Mason’s release was suppose to serve as an example.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 1, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Mason may have very well been scapegoated

But the argument that Jeremy Kerley is better actually holds some water.

by Clarke W. Griswald on Jan 1, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

per jenny vrentas
“Let me just say that there were guys in the huddle that were unhappy with Tone’s demeanor,” running back LaDainian Tomlinson said. “And when you have a group of guys who are fighting their butts off, and one guy who – for whatever reason, his demeanor isn’t with ‘em – you’ll have guys try to say something to him, just pretty much tell him how they feel. That’s what you got today.”
Tomlinson added: "I’ll tell you what, it’s tough for guys to follow a captain that kind of behaves in that manner. When you’re a captain, guys are looking at you, you’ve got to lead by example. You’ve got to play your tail off until the last play. And when that don’t happen, you have guys looking at you in a way that captains shouldn’t be looked at. You should always put yourself out there as a leader. "
According to one player, who asked to remain nameless, it wasn’t just this game.
“He quit,” the player said. “It’s happened for the past two to three weeks. It’s happened all season.”

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Jan 1, 2012 6:13 PM EST reply actions  

It's really disappointing thaat we can't cut ties with him

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by Bro Namath on Jan 1, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

per jane mcmanus
“It was definitely boiling” in the huddle, Tomlinson said. “Guys had had enough of it at that point.”
According to Tomlinson, players said to Holmes, “C’mon, we still have a chance.”
“It’s tough for guys to follow a captain who behaves in that manner,” Tomlinson said. “When you are a captain, guys are looking for you to lead by example, and you have to play your tail off to the last play.”
Tomlinson criticized Holmes for his “demeanor, body language — not really into the game, feeling like it’s over, feeling sorry for himself. We were still in the game.”
“The worst thing that can happen (to a player) is when your teammates start to question your passion in the middle of a game,” he said. “That’s the worst thing. In that huddle, what you saw, guys looked in (Holmes’) eyes and didn’t see that fire in his eyes. Guys were turned off about that. We’re all grown men. We don’t have to like each other, but we must respect every man in that locker room in order to be successful. When that starts to slack a little bit, and continues to boil, that’s what you get.”

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Jan 1, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

LDT is going out with a bang

He’s letting it all hang out

Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!

by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

LDT is a winner..

I’m so proud of him. Winning and never giving up meant everything to this man. Even when people wanted to say he was “old, didn’t have it anymore”, he always gave it his all. If it’s LDT last game with the Jets and retirement, big thank you to you my man! God bless you man, enjoy your time and thanks for the memories!

by winnebagosun on Jan 1, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LDT...

… may just be back? And if he returns, he should be a captain as he is a leader with class.

by BachsOfRain on Jan 2, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree with you to an extent

last series of a moot game or not, this was huge. I agree that there’s nothing we can do to get him off the team. I even agree leadership void and the prevalent issues are a higher priority, but this was an embarrassment and causes me to lose all faith in Santonio entirely. I don’t have a solution, but boy would I let him know by any means possible how unacceptable this was.

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by Bro Namath on Jan 1, 2012 6:15 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Perhaps I wasn't clear

I think it shows there’s a real problem that this wasn’t resolved to the extent that it boiled over while the team was on its last gasp.

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by John B on Jan 1, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I guess I'm not in disagreement as much as frustrated witht he situation

Holmes is clearly at his worst when the team is on its last gasp.

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by Bro Namath on Jan 1, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Of all the Jets wideouts that have tormented my Pats over the years,

Cotchery was my favorite.

The Holmes situation sounds like the one we had with Haynesworth. We went 8-0 for the year without Haynesworth. The Bucs are 0-8 this year since taking Haynesworth.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 1, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

too bad...

we can’t get rid of this over payed cry baby, if he dosen’t get his touches he goes off and sulks or acts like a jackass, or now gets into altercations with his own teammates. I was criticized when i posted that this team will go through a rebuilding this off season. WE NEED;
a new offensive coordinator, cause Rex has no clue about what is going on with Schotty’s calls and what is going on on the O.
New saferies, preferably someone who can cover better.
offensive R tackle and guard.
outside linebacker and De that can rush the passer
being in a new wr
and now serious questions at QB.

by Chrebetfan on Jan 1, 2012 6:18 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

holmes v edwards

you can argue that holmes MIGHT be the better player but edwards wins hands down as a better teammate

if its for you it won't pass you

by tinley24 on Jan 1, 2012 6:24 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Which is why he gets a DUI two weeks into the season?

Say what you will about Holmes, but he has stayed out of trouble (off the field) since coming here.

Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.

by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 1, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was going to say....

Then there was that whole stabbing thing his entourage got into with some waiter.

I always thought Holmes was kind of a punk but he looked great next to Edwards.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 1, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's not jinx it

He has an entire off season to light up a couple of blunts

Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!

by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

getting a DUI and quitting on your team like a cancer is different

Edwards never quit on the team. He may have off the field issues but it’s actually Holmes that’s the locker room cancer despite all the speculation that Edwards was one.

by PowerBar on Jan 1, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

just remember edwards fighting through a few guys for the td in new england

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Jan 1, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

B.Edwards...

… is worth bringing in for a look, we know he helps this team on the field when healthy. How much could it possibly cost, much less than throwing “Tone” to the curb thats for sure.

by BachsOfRain on Jan 2, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Santonio made some seriously bad decisions today

But talk of moving him is %100 knee jerk. Don’t sit there and tell me the image of Holmes catching that back corner TD against the Pats in the playoffs last year has been erased from your mind because of this.

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by B.Rush on Jan 1, 2012 6:31 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions   1 recs

Don't blame Holmes. How about the offensive line and their penalties.

The reality is Holmes should be upset. Schotty quit on this team way before anyone else. Remember, just last season all of you were cheering for Holmes when he single handly won numerous games for us. For example, remember the Detriot, Cleveland and most importantly the playoff game against New England.

The problems the Jets have don’t stem from Holmes. The team lacks a consistent quarterback and sufficient coaching. The Jets are not 8-8 because of Santonio Holmes. How about the offensive line committing 6 penalties. That’s called undisciplined football.

Holmes should be pissed. I know I would be for a variety of reasons. Remember all those muffed punts throughout the season. Those have nothing to do with Holmes. Yes, I remember his awful game againt the Eagles, however, Holmes has had more successful games than poor games. Besides, remember Sanchez’s 3 interceptions. Those have nothing to do with Holmes. I admire Holmes for his passion to win, he should be upset.

by Da Green Mile on Jan 1, 2012 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

being pissed is no reason for quitting on your team

dude is a freakin embarrassment. its not like he hasnt greatly contributed to our many failures (i.e. the eagles gm)

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Jan 1, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with Holmes being pissed

But he needs to take that anger and play with some heart, not throw a temper tantrum on the sidelines, huddle and locker room.

Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!

by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Don't start blaming Holmes because the Jets lost

I’m a true Jets fan. I live in North Carolina and I’m a season ticket holder. I commute most Sundays to watch the Jets. DON’T BLAME HOLMES FOR THE JETS WOES.

ALL OF YOU WERE EXCITED WHEN THE JETS TRADED FOR HIM. HE PLAYS WITH PASSION. UNFORTUNATELY, SCHOTTY HAS REMAINED OUR OC. HOPEFULLY NOW HE WILL BE REPLACED.

by Da Green Mile on Jan 1, 2012 6:45 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Oh, you're a "true" Jets fan as opposed to the rest of us

Holmes was one of many problems the Jets had this season. He played a part in their losses and his lack of leadership hurt this team.

"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan

by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 2, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Holmes has been upset with schotty all season. He has the desire to play

But i think he wants to earn his money and perform. Frustrating season for all.

by jets4life24 on Jan 1, 2012 6:45 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I bet you that Rex will let Tone keep his Captain status next season.

Rex is such a freaking moron, he married himself to the likes of Schotty, Smith, Sanchez and Santonio.

by DesertJetFan on Jan 1, 2012 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

Holmes

There’s no reason to discuss Holmes because he is not the reason the season is over.

Let it go and put the blame where it belongs. It’s not with Holmes.

by Da Green Mile on Jan 1, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Rewind to the Mason release,

coming after the top 3 WRs went and complained to the HC about the OC, and then told the press about it.

It is what it is

by Middlesex on Jan 1, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

What Santonio did was inexcusable.

That is what this article is about. Get over it dude. We all saw a guy quit and cry on a bench on national T.V. He could have told Turner F- you i’m that dude on this team. Instead Patrick freaking Turner came in and got a TD.

by Clarke W. Griswald on Jan 1, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Good for Turner

And I’m glad Holmes’ streak ended yesterday. It serves him right.

"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan

by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 2, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Holmes and Passion

If he doesn’t play with passion I guess you weren’t cheering when he caught the winning pass against buffalo. Our how he won the game against the Pats last year. Additionally, this year he has 654 yds and 8 td with a Bullcrap oc and quarterback. Could you do better?? What team drafted you and how many years did you play in the league?

by Da Green Mile on Jan 1, 2012 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

again

just b/c he has every right to be upset doesnt mean its right that he quit on the team. and why on earth cant we be pissed off at him for his actions this entire season (not just today. he acted like a jerk the eagles gm and threw teammates under the bus in public on two occasions). everybody gets pissed at sanchez even though he played well in the playoffs the last 2 seasons….

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Jan 1, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Holmes

So now, after 17 weeks of football, the reason the Jets season is over is because of Holmes????? You people are just looking for someone to blame. Up until yesterday everyone blamed schotty. I guess now it’s Holmes’ fault.

by Da Green Mile on Jan 1, 2012 6:57 PM EST reply actions  

who here said the whole reason the season is over is all on holmes???

i havent seen one person claim that. if you’ve been here at all you’d realize ppl have been complaining about all the other issues for a while. this is merely a fairly new issue that just reared its ugly head today. i see no reason anybody should be defending holmes here. its patently ridiculous

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Jan 1, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Spot on

And Rex’d

"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan

by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 2, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't be rediculous

No one is saying we are out of the playoffs because of Holmes. We are saying that his behavior is inexcusable, he has been a locker room cancer all year, and his play sucked. No one can excuse this by saying he is frustrated. So the fuck what. I can accept that excuse in flag football but this douche is paid millions and wears a C. Come on now.

by Buzzy on Jan 1, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Holmes.

If it would make all of happy get rid of Holmes and bring back Schotty. Happy now!!!!!!!

by Da Green Mile on Jan 1, 2012 6:58 PM EST reply actions  

again

who the heck here wants to keep schotty???? you clearly are having a major logic fail if thats the reaction youre coming to from reading the reactions to this news

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Jan 1, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

No one is blaming the loss on Holmes-He really wasn't much of a factor either way

This thread is about the guy’s behavior during the game. That’s why people are talking about him here.

Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!

by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

u just dont seem to get it

holmes horrible attitude obviously isnt the only reason this season is over. it is still completely unaceptable for any player , let alone a team captain, to get called out by teammates on the field during a game for not caring and lack of effort. Ever.

by JTdevs on Jan 1, 2012 8:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I respect your post John b.

A lot of the immediate media is gonna focus on Holmes’s attidude but that is in no way the core of this teams problem, maybe a side note to make sure you get clear in the new year But not the main issue for our loses and weak offensive showing when the pressure got ratcheted and the offence shrank…

The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!

by Benz Zito on Jan 1, 2012 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

I think the team would be well served next year to bring in a good offensive coordinator that will hod players accountable for their performance or lack of. Rex should go about his HC duties and help call/ manage the defense. Holmes is getting grilled on this thread, but he is far from the jets biggest problem. He should not remain a captain when clearly the majority of the offensive players do not respect him as a leader. There is no excuse for the way he has played down the stretch. He sucked with his fumbles and lack of concentration and intensity. And hey maybe someone should have gotten Sanchez a hot dog and a beer so he could relax in the shade on the side line. It made me sick to see him sitting there with Plax, maybe discussing what hot spots they will hit in miami. If that was New England Belechick would be game planning on a chalk board with his offense and getting his players ready for the next offensive series. What a fucking disgrace this team is this season. These guys just think they are going to show up to a game and they are gong to win. They sure bought in to Rex’s bullshit about how good they are. Just cause you went to the playoffs the last two years dosen’t mean you just got to show up for games and you will be back there again when the dust settles.

by Chrebetfan on Jan 1, 2012 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

Bring back Schotty and get rid of Holmes.

Evidently, everyone is mad at Holmes. Well petition to get rid of him and bring back Schotty. I bet Holmes goes to another team and hopefully it will be New England and he’ll light it up. Then all of you will be mad with the Jets front office.

by Da Green Mile on Jan 1, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

how can’t you be mad at Holmes play down the stretch, he sucked , but he clearly is not the teams only problem. His attitude and lack of intensity is clearly troubling.

by Chrebetfan on Jan 1, 2012 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

Holmes feels like a lot of real Jets fans feel and all be it he should've showed it but

dont get it confused he wants to win but is getting paid to be a professional, hes to much of a winner to act like a sore loser.

The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!

by Benz Zito on Jan 1, 2012 7:07 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

S. Holmes...

… is a human being, he is frustrated and his lack of production today/season obviously hurt him today. I am in no way endorsing his behavior, there is no excuse for it. Imagine knowing you are the better team and fail to win the last three games of the season? I feel he will learn from this but lets not run him out of town for this. We must focus on priority #1, replacing the root of the problem. Fire Brian Schottenheimer ASAP.

by BachsOfRain on Jan 2, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Holmes is a diva.

And we’ve known that. While I can’t say this makes me happy, our crap offense has got to be fundamentally frustrating. Seeing the offense come apart at the seams like this this is about the best way this season could have ended, all things considered.

I really wish we could find some magic potion to give LT another five years. I’ve been happy with him ever since he became a Jet. I love his presence and his attitude.

by cult hero on Jan 1, 2012 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

I like the way LDT is checking Holmes' attitude

We need more people like that on this team

Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!

by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

with our lack of leadership

we might actually need to sign him to 1 more year. Just for the leadership.

by PowerBar on Jan 1, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Frustrated?

He is paid millions and is a team captain. Yeah- that is a good excuse.

by Buzzy on Jan 1, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Woah. Hold on there.

I’m not giving him a pass. I absolutely, positively cannot stand when someone “gives up” whether they’re making millions or playing in a church softball league. However, millions of dollars doesn’t make you any less frustrated. It’s not excuse. A professional with class deals with it. Holmes being a diva though was a known quantity though.

I’m just saying I’m not surprised.

by cult hero on Jan 1, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

forget diva-forget frustrated.

If it we not for the fact that the Jets are offense challenged-Holmes would be gone. If he pulled this on the Patriots-BB would can his ass. That is how bad this is.

by Buzzy on Jan 1, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think it all comes down to the money he already got and the cap hit

I dont think it is about the Jets being weak on offense.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

If Rex pretends this didn't happen, and doesn't admonish Holmes in front of the team, he will lose the lockerroom.

He continues to turn a blind eye and let’s “his” guys get away with murder.

Its time for Rex to sack up and put a little bite into all that barking.

by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 7:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Maybee....

we are seeing why Rex was not made a head coach by the Ravens

by Chrebetfan on Jan 1, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think LDT made sure Rex doesn't ignore what happened

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

We are allowed to be pisssed off at the performance of our team as fans. When you are a captain and paid millions of dollars to perform like a professional you can’t act like a jackass with our team mates especially when you have under performed as badly as Holmes has.

by Chrebetfan on Jan 1, 2012 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

Holmes is quite honestly looking like

The lazy shit that got him traded in Pitt. Screw him and dumbass move by the coaching staff to think this guy could behave and lead like a captain.

by JetKing55 on Jan 1, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Some of you are ignorant.

If Holmes didn’t have an altercation the Jets would still be 8-8 and not make the playoffs. Therefore, it’s not worth talking about anymore. Let it go!!!!! Put the blame where it belongs and it’s not on Holmes.

by Da Green Mile on Jan 1, 2012 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

I feel like I'm in the twilight zone

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Holmes sulking in the huddle when he is a captain in an awful thing

Was the season ending on Holmes? Nope. Does he need to set a better example for the other players in the huddle? As a captain, 100% yes.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

ha!

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Jan 1, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a lot of blame to go around

like Wayne Hunter being the worst tackle in the league. Holmes is still a Very talented player, but the difference is Hunter repeatedly got knocked on his @ss. Holmes repeatedly shows his @ss.

by J-E-T-S T-I-M on Jan 1, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

Too bad he is such a salary cap hit to let him go…he will be back next season, i just hope the new OC or Rex can reel him in. I like Rex, but this is the problem with a coach like him. He blows smoke up his players asses about how great they are and they buy into it a little too much., When game time comes they get their ass handed to them by teams that come out well prepared and play them physical.

by Chrebetfan on Jan 1, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

I'm both sad and happy to see the Jets lose

now they have they have to deal with reality, Holmes did complain about the play calling as did LT, now they will have no excuse to get rid off you know who, also getting rid off Hunter, drafting Olineman, Safety, LB, and either draft or reacquire both Edwards and Lowery

by MetalVagabond on Jan 1, 2012 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

not to change the subject but...

How about Eric Smith this week saying if Brandon Marshall tries to stiff arm him , “he will put him to sleep”. I saw Smith get blown up by Marshall’s stiff arm, and Marshall continued to run after the catch for a first down. Embarassing year for E.Smith

by Chrebetfan on Jan 1, 2012 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

I think we can all agree that he was right for being pissed

But wrong for being an overpaid baby about it, ESPECIALLY as a Captain.

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by NYJALLFINGDAY on Jan 1, 2012 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

The guy with the biggest smile today....Jericho Cotchery

He was disrespected and knew this team was going down the drain. Another guy laughing.. Shaun Ellis. How about Damien Woody? Karma really came back and bit Woody Johnson’s cheap ass. Rex and Sanchez should get one more year to figure this out, but im not sure how these guys welcome Santonio back.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

The Steelers are really happy

On top of JCo, they got Antonio Brown with the 5th round pick the Jets gave them.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I just threw up

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably nobody will see this at this point, but just to clarify, the Steelers took the 5th round pick they got for Holmes and traded it to the Arizona Cardinals for Bryant McFadden and a 6th round pick. It was with that 6th round pick the Steelers drafted Antonio Brown.

by worldtrip on Jan 3, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Cotchery isn't laughing at all

Unless someone has been telling jokes on the steelers sideline all year. Sure Cotch was unhappy with his role on the Jets, but his role got even smaller on the Steelers. And how is Woody a “Cheap Ass”? This is the first year that the Jets actually had money under the cap, and we have no idea why Tanny didn’t spend it.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Not true

JCo is very much a part of the Steelers offense. His role isn’t much different than the one he had in NY but he’s going into playoffs for the 3rd year in a row.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

MD

Cotchery has 13 catches this YEAR!!!! He had 41 with the jets last year.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He was injured in the beginning of the season

and he’s only played in like 8 or 9 games. He was a good, cheap pickup for the Steelers and he is contributing.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont even bother, no talking to this guy

He’s drunk on the Jets Kool aid

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

If you can't argue a point with facts

i guess you’ll have to throw out insults. Good job. You nailed it.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

You are the one not going with facts

JCo was injured, had no camp with the new team. Being the Steelers had other options at WR, JCo was able to get acclimated with Ben while practicing after being injured. Does JCo get a ton of catches? No. Does he play somewhere with a chance to win and a place where he gets respect? Yup. JCo isnt Holmes or TO, he didnt want out because of his amount of catches, he just wanted respect. I also dont think he was a fan of all the Rex boasting.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's the FACTS

JCo was hurt last year for the jets and played in 12 games. He had 41 catches.
Jco was hurt for the first 4 weeks of this season, and played in 12 games. he has 13 catches. And how do you get respect when you’re the 4th string receiver? And JCo wanted out because he wanted to be a featured receiver. I’m sure he felt that in Pittsburgh he could be the #2 behind Wallace. He is a better posession receiver than Ward. Unfortunatly for him, Brown exploded this season.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt that

You are forgetting about Emanuel Sanders. And he wasnt gonna come in and put a Steelers legend like Ward on the bench. Brown didnt explode on the scene either, most fantasy experts were calling him a sleeper before the season even started. JCo wanted away from the Jets is what it came down to. He saw the way they treated previous Jets like Penny and knew it was time to move on. Good for him, he wasnt part of this stench of a Jets season.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

If i’m forgetting about Emanuel Sanders, so are the Steelers. he has 21 catches this year, and his best game was 70 yards.
Antonio Brown had 16 catches last year in 9 games. So you have two guys who did nothing the previous year, and you think cotchery though they would be starting over him? And Ward is old. If he can’t product, he’ll be on the bench.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Once again, you are leaving out that JCo was hurt and had no camp or preseason with Steelers

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

he was active for 12 games

And had 13 catches. The Steelers didn’t play him, and when they did, he rarely saw the ball. And he had 41 catches for the Jets in 12 games last year. Was hurt in the Denver game.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay you're right.

The Steelers made a bad decision signing JCo

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Who said that?

They just don’t use him. I doubt he’s happy about it at all. it’s his lowest number of catches since his rookie year.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree he isn't used much

but whenever they need JCO, he has been clutch. I still think it wasn’t a smart move for him to leave NY but I think YankeesJet is right about JCo not liking some things about the coaching staff.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I think what he didn't like

Was that he was never given the shot to be a featured receiver. he had been here the longest and was passed over for Edwards, and Holmes.

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly so he left

He was never gonna get his shot here, so he moved on. He was right to leave too. He was a model teammate and he gets over first for Braylon, who has awful track record. Then they bring in a POS like Holmes and finally a guy in Plax who just came out of jail. JCo saw the writing on the wall. Who was next an actual killer in Donte Stallworth?

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know much about the Jets Pre Rex Ryan but

Was he the #1 WR when Mangini was here?

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Coles was the #1

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He did lead the team in catches

But he was always viewed as the #2 behind Coles. Even when he outplayed him.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

So Jco was getting screwed by Schotty

before Rex even came on.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

No Suprise there

Best hands on the team. Lead them in catches for two years, and wasn’t utilized to his strengths. At least Schotty is consistent.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He wasnt getting screwed, Coles was the better WR

Herm was the guy who wouldnt give JCo a shot.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

can't really argue this. he was right to leave, but

If he wanted to be a major contributor, he picked the wrong team. And in the Jets defense, i believe they signed Plax after Cotchery left.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

JCo is a quiet non diva, he is in a good place and has been getting more catches as the season went on

Woody is Tanny’s boss, he dictates when money gets spent. Jets spent no money on depth, let vets walk over money. You dont let a lifetime Jet like Ellis leave. Was he the same player? Nope. Did you lose valuble leadership that you cant buy? Yup.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Cotchery's stats on the steelers

Not catches unitl 10/30
Then he had 1, 3,2,0,0.2,5,0,3.
Of the 12 games h’s actually played for the Steelers he’s had 6 games without a single catch.

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yet he is going to the playoffs

And laughing at you while he is at it. JCo watched WR after WR come in here and steal his job, so he wanted out after feeling slighted by this team. On top of that, I dont think he was feeling Rex’s big mouth.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not being used.

And it’s a shame that Pittsburgh doesn’t see how good the guy actually is.

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You think a competitor like Cotchery

Is enjoying being a backup in Pittsburgh? He left the jets because he wanted to be a #1 or #2 receiver. and he should be. he’s got the talent to do it. he probably has the best hands on the team, but they don’t use him. I’m sure he’s happy to be in the playoffs again, but i’ll also bet that he was happier the last 2 years when he was contributing.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet he contributes to Steelers in playoffs

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The Bob Glauber quote

IS PURE CRAP!!! The Jets rep off screen says “Two more questions guys” after Holmes answered the same question fifteen times. Then two questions come, and gives the same non answer and then as he’s saying “Thank You guys” someone asks if he want’s to come back next year. Glauber’s quote is him trying to make a story instead of reporting one.
On another note, Holmes needs to get a talking to from Rex about what it takes to lead. Rex puts himself out there every year as the sacraficial lamb for this teams failures and takes it every time. Holmes could learn something about leading from him. However… Rex also needs to let the players choose who they want to lead them on the field.

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

Rex inspires the other teams to win

Rex does all this talking but he no longer has guys to back it up. So teams come in playing hard, out to shut the fat man up, and they do. Im hoping and praying Rex shuts his mouth next year unless it comes to putting his own guys in their place.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I have plenty of friends that are fans of other teams, no one is hated as much as Rex in the entire league

Yes, when you run your mouth you get other teams up for the game. Look at a few weeks ago, the Redskins packed it in, but the Giants talked all kinds of crap. After the game most of the Skins said they were playing to shut the Giants up. Maybe youve never done anything competitive but when someone talks trash, people like to shut em up.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody hates a loser

Good point about the Redskins. Only problem is that the Jets played the Redskins the week before, and you know… Our big mouth coach got them all fired up, and they lost!!!!
And i’ve played sports all my life, and i never needed anyone to talk for me to get up for a game. I went all out because i wanted to win, not because someone said something.
If you needed someone to talk for you to get up for a game, you must not have been very good.

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You dont think teams play even harder when facing Jets?

Rex inspires the wrong damn team. This is why BB will sit a guy for talking, you dont provide bulletin board stuff.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

these guys give everything they have on every play. otherwise the other guys in the huddle will call them out (see Santonio Holmes).

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok youre right, all the guys that beat us are lying

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, and when Rex doesn't talk

And we beat them, they always say… Too bad they didn’t talk smack. Give it up. Rex should expect his team to win, and not be afraid to say it.

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Bart Scott must agree with me

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Bart Scott said that the talking gets the other team riled up?

I though Bart Scott said that they talked and now have to take their medicine. Taste the foot they put in their mouth. I’m sure you’ll post a link to the quote or vid where Scott says that they would win more games if they didn’t talk smack. Looking forward to seeing that one.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Bart pretty much said the talking needs to stop

Um, why?

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bart Scott said the talking needs to stop!!!! Do you even know who Bart Scott is? Bart Scott is the biggest talker in the game!!!!

Bart Scott said that they have to take their failures like men.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Bart was the only one that has been saying this isnt a playoff team and their luck was gonna run out

He siad this weeks ago while you were getting smashed on the Jets Kool Aid while wearing the Jet colored glasses.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The Offense on this team was never good enough.

And i would love to see where Bart Scott said this wasn’t a playoff team weeks ago. Especially when the team was 8-5 3 weeks ago. I look forward to your link.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Gimme a second

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2011/12/bart_scott_says_jets_arent_a_s.html

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't know if it's not loading right

But right now, your link shows a blank page on NJ.com that says NY Jets at the top.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah sure

If that one dont load, just google Scott says Jets arent a playoff team. Probably a 100 articles.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I did

You’re right. Good point. I honestly didn’t think Scott would actually say that.
And it wasn’t loading right. Your link goes to nothing. I have to search in the search bar.
The reason why your link doens’ work… You have to post the entire thing.
http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2011/12/bart_scott_says_jets_arent_a_s.html

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and one more point, getting back to our original argument

Nowhere in that article does it say that they Jets need to stop talking. It says that they haven’t played consistent football. So yes, Bart did say that they weren’t playing like a superbowl or playoff team, yet he never said the talking needed to stop.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Bart saw this coming

Im betting Bart isnt back next year but I give him props for manning up. And he did say the talking needs to stop after todays game. You dont think they look morons talking crap? Especially coming off an 8-8 season.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Bart said that they have to take it like men after this game.

That they have to taste their foot in their mouth. he never said they need to stop talking. Bart Scott is the biggest talker in the league.
And i’m sure Bart saw the flaws in the team, how the Offense couldn’t do a damn thing. yet, none of that had anything to do with the talking the coach was doing.

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You dont Rex looks like an idiot right now?

Let him keep talking after winning 8 games. I think he looks like a fool.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

I think Rex has to eat some crow, and work harder for next year. And he’s got to convince someone to come in and run his offense.

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah , because god forbid Rex coached the entire team

He isnt hiring an OC, he’s hiring a co-HC.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya. Just like a lot of teams

There are very few people in the NFL that know how a Defense and an Offense should be run.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Im not sying Rex should be calling the offense

Just saying that if he wants ground and pound, it better be ground and pound. I mean he never once went to Schotty at the half and asked him “what the hell are you doing”?

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

By your logic

The Jets should have been killed last year. They were on Hard Knocks, and the entire world got to see how much Rex talks. Somehow, they managed to get to the AFC Championship game for the 2nd straight year, and barring a lapse on ability to tackle, they were good enough to win.

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

This Jets team was not last years team

When you can comprhend that, you will have a lot more insight into things. Guys like LT are older, all the true leaders of the team are gone. And so on and so on. You are just loaded with excuses. The truth is the 2011 NY Jets stunk and were lucky to win 8 games.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

But i though talking was the reason you lost?

You know… Teams get pumped up when you talk and really want to beat you. And this team did stink, but it wasn’t because they talked. it was because we had an OC that had no fucking clue who was playing for him.
And your argument was that the jets lost because they talked. Well they talked a hell of a lot more last year than this year, yet… Last year they won.

"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem is Rex kept writing checks with his mouth that the players couldnt cash

Guys like Jenkins and Woody have been saying this all year long but what would they know? Last year they had guys that could back it up on the line, their kicker made kicks when it mattered, their punter wasnt nearly this bad, their game plan was also a bit better. The talking riles teams up, especially when its coming from a guy that hasnt won squat. Getting to title games are nice but you dont get a trophy for that. in the end you just played a few more games but you still finished the season as a loser.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok

They had the same kicker. Folk did have a slightly lower FG Percentage this year, but… He only missed 6 this year, and missed 9 last year. Yes, TJ conley sucks. Woody and Jenkins are retired and have no clue what goes on in practice or the locker room. And i’ll say it once again, if there is a team that needs someone to talk to get pumped for a game, they shouldn’t be in the NFL. And if you don’t think getting to title games are good enough, you probably should stop using Belichek as your example of a coach not talking being the reason for winning. he hasn’t won a playoff game since he got nailed for cheating.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

BB almost went undefeated after the cheating spectacle

You are really off your game tonight.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He lost to the Giants.

And hasn’t won a playoff game since.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He was an Asante samuel pick from winning it all

You said he hadnt won a playoff game since spygate came out, you are wrong. On top of that he has taken piles of crap to the playoffs and our wonderful jets havent won a division title since 02.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He's taken piles of crap to the playoffs?

Are you kidding? The Patriots have Tom Brady and Wes Welker!!!! They win 13 games every year, and then they lose in the first round of the playoffs. If keeping quiet was the reason they win, they would win make it to the superbowl every year. Yet Rex talks shit, and manages to win playoff games.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Their defense is complete trash and they have no run game

That is the reason why they arent winning in the playoffs.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

And yet with a "Trash defense", and "No run game"

Over the last 4 years, they are 47-17 during the regular season.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

But BB needed to cheat to be sucessful, he's no rex, right?

You pretty much crapped all over BB’s accomplishments and now that I showed you the error in your ways, you sing his praises.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

BB wins in the regular season

and loses in the playoffs. 47 regular season wins, and 0 playoff wins. he doesn’t talk at all. Rex talks and has 4 playoff wins. Your claim that BB has a shit team is just a load of crap. Your claim that talking causes your team to lose… Also crap.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait a minute, you cant take away his SB wins

And you cant take away his sucess with the Giants either. BB has one of the worst defenses in football and he has no run game, that is a a recipe for disaster in the playoffs. He does well in the regular season because he is in a weak division.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

compared to this year

Rex has done a lot less talking. This Rex talks to much angle is overrated and over done.

The real problem is the lack of accountability within the organization.

by PowerBar on Jan 1, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

People are sick of his SB predictions, I sure am

He looks a damn fool now, the whole organization looks like a joke now. He needs to just shut up and focus on coaching the entire team, not just his f#$king defense.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

So you hope that next year

When Rex is asked, are you going to win a Superbowl this year? You want him to say… I don’t think so.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I want him to say thats always my goal but I would rather spend time focusing on getting this team a win this week

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

And what would the headline in the paper and on ESPN be?

REX DOESN’T THINK JETS CAN WIN SUPERBOWL.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

And that headline will only pump up his guys instead of the opposing team

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

How will that pump up his guys?

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Because they arent retarded

They will hear Rex say what was really said and not the speculation garbage of ESPN and the papers. This will have them playing with a chip on their shoulders.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

he said so this much

that his goal is the superbowl. I think he’s evolving to the point you want him to be at.

That said, this talk about riling up players is overdone.

by PowerBar on Jan 1, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys are coming in with a chip on their shoulders wanting to shut the fat guy up

Believe what you want but when he says stuff like the Giants are the little brother, that pumps em up a bit more.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That's crap

If it was true, the Jets would have beat the giants every year they played each other in Giants stadium.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

What are you talking about?

The Giants never talked crap about the Jets in any of those years that I could remember. Still, Rex and the boys came off looking like idiots, wouldnt you say?

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you kidding

The Giants always said it was their stadium. ALWAYS!!! And Rex came out having to eat crow. He expected a win, and his team didn’t get it done.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It was their stadium and they backed their talk up

Rex and our boys didnt back up crap in 2011. There is no proof other than the players whether talking affects anything. But Rex will look like a moron making boasts after this year.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you serious?

You think his players are going to play harder for him when he says “our goal is to get to the superbowl” rather than “We’re going to win a superbowl”? The player love Rex because he believes in his team, and puts his ass on the line for them with then only thing he can. His mouth.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

honestly

I don’t think it makes a big difference whether he says he’s going to win or it’s his goal.

Everyone knows Rex’s act now and it’s taken with a grain of salt.

by PowerBar on Jan 1, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

So him saying it again, isn’t going to make any difference. I would rather have him say it every year. I want a coach who believes his team is going to win it all every year, and isn’t afraid to put his ass on the line in front of the world.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

it's one thing when your personnel can actually back up the talk

but especially with this season, it’s apparent we have gaping holes on our team and it just makes Rex look foolish.

We’re not even a playoff team at this point. Rex can say he’s coaching for a superbowl, but he also needs to hold his players and coachinig staff accountable.

by PowerBar on Jan 1, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

And we'll see

If he actually holds his coaching staff accountable. It’s tough to fire one of your coaches when you make it to the AFC championship game, and lose because of the Defense, and not the Offense. And Rex entered the year thinking the team improved from last year, just like most of the people on this board. I’m sure next year, we’ll all expect the team to be better than it was this year. And our biggest holes are RT (a guy who actually played well last year SUCKED this year), Safety (We all expected Pool and Leonard to be the safety’s. Smith sucks), and WR (Plaxico blows!!!! and Holmes can’t do his thing when he’s doubled and the OC won’t open up the passing attack).

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Plax didnt blow, they used him wrong

Plax actually helped he red zone effiency improve, he just wasnt an every down WR. Cutting Mason, a dumb move in hindsight, made it so Plax had to play every down.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Plax BLEW

He definitely lost a step in prison, and had no ability to seperate from the defenders. And i do agree that he was completely misused by our dipshit OC.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Plax was fine in the red zone which was the whole reason to get him

Cutting Mason screwed everything up though.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Plax was brought in to replace Edwards

He was suppose to be our deep threat and our red zone jumper. He was never used as the jumper and wasn’t fast enough to be a deep threat. His longest play this year was 30 yards. and he only had 1 game where he scored more than 1 td.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Plax was coming off of two years in prison

You really think the Jets thought he was replacing Edwards?Compare their seasons, Plax was better. Bray was so bad the Niners cut him even though they are weak at WR.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Rex is gonna be coaching more for his job that a SB next year

NY is a what have you done for me lately town and Rex’x goodwill from 09 and 10 was washed away with this crappy season. Next year, he needs to focus on coaching or he will be on tv doing analysis not coaching football.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

If an 8-8 season is crappy, you might be right

But i’m not so sure that 8-8 following a shortened offseason is going to put him on the hotseat just yet. The D gave up the 5th fewest yards this year, and is consistently one of the best in the NFL. The offense on the other hand… With a competent OC, this team could be a beast. Rex’s problem is that he put too much faith into an Idiot to run his Offense.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I would say that Rex has a minimum of 2 more years

before the jets start looking to replace him.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

An 8-8 season is not good especially when the HC declares you are going to the SB before a snap of football is played.

You are obsessed with stats, they arent as important as you think. That defense that you love has choked so many times over the years its not funny. And dont give me the “theyre tired” crap because they have had games where they cant tackle and cant stop peeps right after half time.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They're not tired.

That’s a BS excuse. If the D was tired, so is the O line. But the D still manages to be in the top 10 in the league while the Offense manages to be in the bottom 10. Rex is not the problem this team has and it would be stupid to get rid of him. We would end up going back to a crappy D to go with our crappy O.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That great D blew both AFC title games

It allowed Tebow to beat them. It allowed Campbell and the Raiders to beat em. So many others to choose from. Keep living on your stats and put the tv on looking for your great Jets D and Rex running his mouth next week, you wont find em though.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

ESPN and the rest of the propaganda that passes for sports reporting can shove it. Who cares what Rome, Kay and the rest of those morons think

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by BlueChill on Jan 1, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

those are fans

they’re not actually on the field.

by PowerBar on Jan 1, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

My point exactly

If the fans hate this guy, can you imagine how opposing players feel? Ask Victor Cruz if they know his name now.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

most opposing players are going to perform because they're supposed to.

Rex should worry more about holding his own players accountable then talking big.

And what did Rex say about Victor Cruz? I’m pretty sure it was the other way around.

by PowerBar on Jan 1, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, im wrong the talking helped and Rex and the boys look really cool right now

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Im saying we are 8-8 due to Rex's coaching or lack therof

If not for Romo’s gifts, we are 7-9. Rex did an awful job coaching this team. There were tons of penalties, poor clock management, STs were a joke and Schotty abandoned the run game. All of that falls on the guy in charge, the HC who couldnt shut up.

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Couple of things

1. Rex didn’t hire schotty. He was already here. We have no idea if Rex wanted Schotty or was stuck with him by Tanny.
2. Our Return game was pretty good (when they didn’t fumble) as can be seen by our return guy leading the league in average KR.
3. Poor clock management, and abandoning the run game fall on the OC, who may not have been the choice of the HC.
4. Penalties.. our biggest culprits were Mulligan, and Hunter. both of whom should be nothing more than backups and suck.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

1. I never said he hired Schotty, but Rex has always says he loves schotty and wants him here as long as he’ll stay.
2.Our return game led the NFL in fumbles, not good.
3.Head Coach is in charge of the team, this never happened under Herm or Mangini. Schotty coached under Mangini btw, but things were more disciplined than.
4. Thats on Woody Johnson, Tanny, Callahan and Rex.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

How can Glauber get away with telling a straight up lie?

Aren’t reporters supposed to have some ethical responsibility?

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Reporters have no ethics anymore.

They try to make the news, that way they can be the one that broke the story.

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by jetsbill on Jan 1, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The MSM of sports doesnt believe in facts

I do have hopes that NBC Sports Network will be a breath of fresh air but I doubt it

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by BlueChill on Jan 1, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Why santonio? Why schotty? Why??? WTF

Realistically, holmes will be with the Jets next season, and they need to figure out how to resolve this issue, and move on quickly. I think there was more than enough frustration to break the flood gates, but that type of behavior from a captain and nfl vet like santonio is completely unacceptable.Im extremely worried about the Jets roster heading into the 2012 offseason, and this mess is the last thing they need. I think getting rid of schotty will be a good start to remedying this fever of a problem. Secondly, getting Sanchez some pass protection, and again, some new direction from a talented coordinator/coach. Then there is the surprising wreck on rex ryans defense; wtf is eric smith still doing in green and white? what happened to Maybin? who is coaching pitatitoua, that man is a giant and hits like my girl friend, he is big enough to move a small house, how is he not penetrating the opposing line???? There are so many problems to fix and holes to fill I dont know where to begin, and im not content in trusting the Jets GM to address these offseason tasks successfully….The Jets fans want results, I know I sound pessimistic, but talk is cheap; I want to win and I can’t tell that the Jets front office knows how to right now.

by erok2424 on Jan 1, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

When I saw the Holmes contract

I had a bad feeling about it like I do with just about all big contracts. As soon as the team starts loosing the diva will come out and it did. Now we see what the true Holmes is about and cant do anything about it because of the cap.

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by BlueChill on Jan 1, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

You don’t need great receivers to win in the NFL. a good offensive line, and a good running game are the best friends to a QB. along with a good defense. So i never like a big contract going to a receiver unless elite type players like calvin johnson, larry fitzgerald, Andre Johnson.. Holmes has not lived up to his contract this year. I would take Wayne Chrebet any day over S Holmes.

by Chrebetfan on Jan 1, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

Otherwise you would be Holmesfan instead of Chrebetfan

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i’m a little biased, but i would rather see a tough lead by example, work horse type player instead of some over paid over hyped team cancer like Holmes. with that said he is a great talent. just want to see a guy who plays hard and dosen’t bitch up when things don’t go his way.

by Chrebetfan on Jan 1, 2012 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

We had that guy but Tanny and Rex ran him off

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by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

IF you mean cotchery , i feel Kerly is and will become an upgrade, plus he can run a little wildcat. I really think we miss tony richardson and damien woody more.

by Chrebetfan on Jan 1, 2012 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

..we blew this season right from the start...today was just the cap going on the bottle.

Yes I was very upset by Holmes actions on the field today and Bravo for the men in the huddle for standing up as a team. However, in Holmes defense he is our #1 receiver and how can he not have any catches. It wasn’t like he was triple covered or something. It wasn’t just today…..its been happening all season. The wonders of Shotty’s Offense 101. You go for a few games as the hot read and lots of balls are coming your way. Then for some unknown reason it’s like you went into a coma and you don’t see anything at all….you’re just a decoy. Then maybe several games later you might get targeted again off and on. How do you do this to your offensive weapons? Dustin Keller gets this treatment…..big target at the start of the year….invisible in the middle and we see him again down the stretch. So back to Tone…..yah pretty F’n stupid act to pull today on national TV + at the press conference but will give him an “A” for class that he didn’t go off like a Roman Candle to the press. He was polite and composed where others probably would have started dropping the F-Bombs left – right & centre. I’m sure(hoping) in retrospect that he is re-thinking this day out on how he let the team down, the New York faithful and what could have been a different result from the start. But seriously….we score an opening quarter TD and then we sit on it after adding a FG. We’re in desperation mode today…need to friggin win at all costs…what are we doing snoozing??? Brian…wake the “F” up? That was the disgrace today…..Homes was the secondary news item.

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by Canadian Jet on Jan 2, 2012 3:28 AM EST reply actions  

Why wouldn't they cut him?

I heard the other day that if he is cut before March 1st, and he get re-signed by another team (which you can bet will happen) that money will come off what the Jets owe him. In other words, if Minnesota signs him for a 5mil a year deal, that 5 mil comes out of the 8 mil the Jets owe him. I’d cut him and roll the dice.

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