Dolphins Put the Jets Out of Their Misery
by John B on Jan 1, 2012 4:09 PM EST
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PrintThe 2011 New York Jets season is over. The Dolphins eliminated the Jets from Playoff contention today with a 19-17 victory over Gang Green. The Jets finished 8-8 and losers of their final three games. The story of the game was the story of the season. The defense was pretty good outside of one monumental Miami drive. Three awful Mark Sanchez interceptions, including one with the Jets driving for a potential go ahead score late in the fourth quarter led to 9 Miami points.
This was not exactly shocking. If you have watched the Jets all season, you knew this was not that good of a football team. In fact, the Jets lost three straight to close out the campaign against some mediocre competition. The offense was just too putrid for this team to have success. Brian Schottenheimer will almost assuredly will pay with his job. The question is whether Mark Sanchez will follow him out the door. It is a debate that will probably carry on for some time after this season. Considering the way he finished the year, the better question might be whether the Jets will be able to acquire a capable starter.
Leave your thoughts on this season below. The official recap will be up shortly.
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New OC
must come from outside the organization.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 1, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
no one should be safe except revis and mangold
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
yeah
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Jan 1, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
schotty?
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Schotty...
… Must go! His offenses have sucked since his arrival seven seasons ago. M. Cavenaugh is gone as well. The Jets replacement at O.C. ; be it N. Turner, J. McDaniels or B. Callahan will be much better next year. This 8-8 year is not a “LOSING” season. Who has done better than R.R./M.S. in their first three seasons with an O.C. that is arguably the worst in the league?
Callahan sucks
new coordinator must come from outside the organization and from a good offense. That is why I want Tom Clements or Norv Turner.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 1, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
this season was like a blind date
you think your getting a supermodel and u end up with your fat school teacher
if its for you it won't pass you
this season had a myspace angle
and the HOLMES of the... JETS!!!
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Am I just me? Or am I hot in here?
I disagree.
Schotty was retained and the offseason was horrific.
Anyone who thought this season looked like a super model had their beer goggles on.
As much as this hurts
this is the best thing for the Jets. We’ll be better off with this loss. Changes needed to be made and now there is no way they can be avoided
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 1, 2012 4:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agree
this was a fitting end. A poor performance by the weak link, Sanchez and Schotty. How does Sanchez not even look Holmes’ way all damn game? They need a safety, another pass rusher, a new OC and possibly another QB if one can be found that’s an upgrade. I actually don’t think it would be hard to find someone a little better.
by David G on Jan 1, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
maybe he was taking plays off, maybe he wasn't into the game
he almost admitted that much in the post game.
The new...
… O.C. will not play “Prevent Offense”, M. Sanchez is not the problem and it will be evident to all with a new O.C./Q.B coach. S. Holmes has no business wearing a “C” on his jersey either, Captain lead and he did not and had his worst season after getting paid. He also failed to catch a ball this game.
S.A.N.T.O.N.I.O H.O.L.M.E.S
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:13 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Miami had a great offense
It was called Mark Sanchez! Finally has an above 60% completion game along with 3 horrible INTs. I hope Schotty goes so everyone can see that Mr. Golden boy Sanchez isn’t an NFL starting QB, back up yes, starter, NO!
Sanchez might not be a nfl starting qb but schotty is no where need a nfl coach
by dawg1331 on Jan 1, 2012 4:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
REX
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
I guess ill be the first to at least mention the idea
Matt Flynn…..look what he is doing right now
with a loaded offense with an offensive cordinator
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
still
400 yards in about 3 quarters in impressive
It's an interesting thought.
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Flynn is in basically the same situation as Kevin Kolb was.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Flynn looks a whole lot better tho
I don’t see Rex letting Sanchez sit for Flynn tho. It would have to be manning
Still bring Flynn in and let the kid prove himself with our teams pieces.
I mean it’s moot if Schotty is still around though.
Matt Flynn sounds better than Mark Sanchez everyday!!
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
Flynn
is garbage. I watched his entire career at LSU and he sucked big time. he played well today because of the system he is in. This guy is the next Kevin Kolb and will flop if he is given a starting job.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 1, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
HE DIDNT EVEN KNOW SANTONIO WAS OUT
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
He knew
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 1, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think we should give Sanchez 1 more year with a new OC.
If that doesn’t work then goodbye. At least we tried
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 1, 2012 4:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm not so sure anymore
Not protecting the ball won’t change with a new OC. I doubt schotty said “throw it no matter what”
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 1, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
he said they wanted to avoid the sack at all costs
I think we can take something away from that
that is BULLSHIT
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
Since the Texans lost
This was the best possible outcome for us. We have a higher draft choice in all rounds. Miami has a lower draft choice. We could get players we otherwise could not get to fill fix our problems. The OC is gone since there is no longer excuse to keep and we know we have to get Edwards back.
Rex how do u not know what happened with Tone???
Wtf???
by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 4:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
he knows
he’s just not gonna call him out in public
Proud member of the fire Brian Schottenheimer club
"Grunt and Punt offense"
"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
"Planing for Manning"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 1, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
SWEEPING CHANGES PLEASE
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Sanchez, Santonio, Schotty.........GONE!!!!!!!!!
J-Kidd to D-Will
Meh, the jury is still out after Holmes meltdown and clueless penalties.
We did just get him paid which is probably a bigger factor. He definitely shouldn’t be a captain next season.
Holmes
is a great player that is just frustrated playing in a garbage offense.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 1, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
No, Cotchery was more consistent
French fries are really Belgian, sausages and bagels have the same amount of protein, two countries' names mean "turkey", and Santa Claus was invented by the Coca-Cola company. Is life weird or what?
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Two picks to freaking defensive ends
was the real poop icing on Sanchez’ crapcake. Who throws 2 pics to defensive ends in one game??
Someone whose passes are routinely deflected, either because the D linemen know what play is going down, or because the O linemen aren’t keeping them engaged. (Though throwing it more than 5 yards would help)
Right on the money
The first time Sanchez goes downfield (after the last MIA field goal, he hits Plax in stride for 18+.
The deflections and INTs happen partly b/c of bad judgement, but also due to offensive predictability. It isn’t popular, but i say give sanchez another year (albeit with a competitive, competent backup) with a new OC (and a new RT)
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
if he keeps giving credit to the dolphins...
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
Im so over Sanchez
Rex is to attached to all his players
Sanchez could be the scapegoat for all things he didn't do
A horrible RT in Wayne hunter a terrible OC who is madly inconsistent and also for receivers that don’t get open
Sanchez was awful this year but IMO no one would have done great with those including Peyton
We still need a backup/ almost starter like a delhommme or campbell to keep Sanchez going but I think there’s bigger issues than him
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 1, 2012 4:19 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
The receivers do get open. Sanchez can’t find them.
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Mostly cause he knows he is going to be hit before they can
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 1, 2012 4:21 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He found them last year
apparently sanchez is blind now?
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 1, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Greene interception is a perfect example. Open in the NFL rarely means you beat a guy by five yards. There are tight windows where the ball has to be put precisely.
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he was making the passes last year...and even the beginning of this season
something has definitely happened with his confidence and with what they’re trying to do with him
He’s on the ground all the time, it’s hard to have him gain confidence.
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Jan 1, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Peyton would have succeeded,
lets not get ahead of ourselves
Yogi on the 1969 NY Mets....." overwhelming underdogs "
doubt it
He had a good receiver a great OC and a good opine we have none of these
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 1, 2012 4:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I look at the INTs and all of them are when he’s being pressured. I really don’t think this season is all Sanchez. I think he’s salvageable… They have to clean house on offense. Plax could stay if he’s willing to take a reduced role (Possibly the fourth receiver) We need someone who gets open down the field… A true deep threat with TOP END speed. Everyone is asking for one pass-rusher… I want them to get 2-3 pass rushing options that they can roll the dice on. Two via draft and one via free-agency. Please look at Reggie Wayne at WR too.
"i'm not a loser"
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
so they why dont you get rid of the losers
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Jan 1, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Gholston, now Sanchez are EPIC first round busts.
Our franchise even at 8-8 is in a sad state. It felt like another 4-12 season, we just played crappier teams. This offense needs alot of purging starting with Schotty, a backup to push (probably take over for) Sanchez, and some line depth.
Sanchez
Keep him with a new OC.
Sanchez had his best statstical season.. The team wasnt that good.
Sanchez and Rex have lead us to 2 AFC championship games when no one thought he could.
Halpy 2.0
Fire Dantoni
he also has never had a
Completion % over 60
Proud member of the fire Brian Schottenheimer club
"Grunt and Punt offense"
"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
"Planing for Manning"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 1, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
hes an idiot
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
HOLMES TO THE PODIUM
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
Breaking news......
…Mehta reporting the Jets give Schotty a 3 year extension.
Of course only kidding, but honestly, would anyone be surprised if they don’t fire him?
I really wouldn't be
i feel like he has connections with the FO
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 1, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Naked pictures.....
…of Woody massageing Rex’s feet.
Yikes!
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
I would be shocked.
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Don't worry. He's gone.
Who would watch next year if Schotty AND Sanchez are back?
by Myr on Jan 1, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'd really like to hear what Holmes has to say
If he didn’t want to play some coach should have told him to get the hell into the locker room then.
Time to watch MarShon Brooks on my Nets!
J-Kidd to D-Will
LOL you
Enjoy your 5-61 season.
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by rxmeister on Jan 1, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
YEAH BOI
MarSwag= Kobe
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 1, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Nets......
hahahahahahahahaha
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
shutup you're a knicks fan
win a playoff game and then come and talk alright
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 1, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Win 1 NBA title and become relevant
BTW I do like your name
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
give us a few years
thankss
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Jan 1, 2012 5:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
adam schien is the man
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
I hate that guy
I hate his voice. I hate his face. I hate his slick back hair which he sports. Shut up. You’re the only ‘analyst’ there that has never played a sport past the age of 11.
#1. obliterate the offensive coaching staff
that includes dumping Callahan.
#2. Cut Sanchez’s salary so we pay him squat next year and can cut him if we want to after next year.
#3. Acquire a QB to compete with Sanchez.
#4. Dump Wayne Hunter, Eric Smith, Vlad Ducasse.
#5. Rex should STFU about how good the Jets are.
Honestly I agree with all but Callahan he made dbrick an all star but he was given a turd in hunter and couldn’t do anything with him
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 1, 2012 4:27 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Brick regressed this year
Making Slauson replace Faneca seamlessly would be a better argument
French fries are really Belgian, sausages and bagels have the same amount of protein, two countries' names mean "turkey", and Santa Claus was invented by the Coca-Cola company. Is life weird or what?
Debe ser verde y volante - Πράσινο και να πετάει - It's gotta be green and it's gotta fly!
John-
Darren Rovell just tweeted the following-What the Colts do with Peyton. If they pick up option that will be $51M w/o a snap.
What i was saying earlier….need to cut him to save money
"He constantly tells you things that are not true"
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
Holmes Explanation for being off the field
Holmes says Turner told him he was coming in. Holmes says he did not take himeself out: “I have no answer to that. It was the coach’s call.”
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Wow, so that must have been because he was yelling in the huddle?
Can’t blame him for yelling, Sanchez never even looked his way.
Doesn't mean he should act like a jerk on the bench.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Why is SNY
So hell bent on having Ryan criticize his players in the media. If he did he would be fleeced by the papers. Don’t they understand that calling out your players may be counter productive.
Don’t be telling us that Sanchez had one of the best statistical seasons in answer to “Did Sanchez regress”.
by ________key on Jan 1, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Sanchez had
12 more TDs this season than last season. Thats not regression.
It may be counterproductive but it's great stuff for the media to report on.
It’s funny because you never hear anyone else call for the HC to call out their players in front of the media.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Would you imagine
If Ryan called out Sanchez. Front page of the papers would be how stupid Mike T is for drafting him. Then the media would kill Ryan and Schotty. Then they would kill just about offensive player who supported him.
I know. The media would have a field day.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
+1000 for the thread title
We didn’t deserve to win and we certainly didn’t deserve to go to the playoffs. We were a mediocre team all year and we finished like one.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
RT, two safeties, OLB, WR, another RB, another ILB...
Man, that’s a LOT of shit to sure up.
by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 4:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
How about a blocking TE...
….who can remember a snap count and average under 1.5 penalties a game?
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
The Jets biggest problem other than Scitty and Hunter is no playmakers
they need to draft a WR in the first round.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Rookie receivers
Have a bad history in the NFL.
this
Asked whether he wants to return with Jets next season, Holmes doesn’t answer. “Thank you, guys.” And walks off. #nyj
the guy just received a fat contract
he should have said something
I was just about to post that
Good Riddance dipshit
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
HOLMES IS TALKING
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
It's getting ugly fast
Schotty has to be gone by Tuesday.
he looks pissed
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
holmes
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Jan 1, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
sny
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Jan 1, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Shit, Tone just threw Mark under the bus.
by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 4:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That's not really under the bus
That’s a very true statement.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Well he's right
But he should also blame himself as well
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
I was talking about his play during the entire season. We all know this one game is not the reason why the Jets didn’t make the playoffs. They had plenty of opportunities this year.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
No he didn't
He said there was a lot of work to do and that they will fix it in the off season.
He said that the reason we lost the last 3 games was bc of Mark.
How’s that not throwing him under the bus?
by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 4:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sanchez threw himself under the bus with his play
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
Jets were never in position to make the playoffs... Texans forfieted the game.
Halpy 2.0
Fire Dantoni
Houston still had chance to win
until they decided to go for 2 from 7 yard line. That would have been a really messed up decision to screw the Jets over had Jets won.
the point he's making
is that they were playing with their subs.
well when your top 3 qbs go down, u gotta play subs
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 5:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
he's done
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
its spiralling totally out of control
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
We're stuck with tone
He has $24 million in guranteed money. We can’t cut him now, it’d ruin our cap.
Stop complaining about Santonio
Guy didn’t lash out at the media and he could have easily done that.
by Izzy76 on Jan 1, 2012 4:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Holmes should've punched Sanchez in the face
How the hell is it 25secs left in the half and you are checking it down WTF …
If your gonna throw an I.N.T why,why ,why not throw it down field … I mean like , He doesnt play Madden or something??
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
Honestly, all the hate toward Holmes is seriously misplaced.
So many bigger problems than Holmes.
by ________key on Jan 1, 2012 4:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The funny thing about Santonio is I don't remember him talking this much in Pittsburgh
That’s because he knew James Harrison would kick his ass if he got out of line
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Yeah Ben was in his 4th or 5th year when Holmes came along
and Holmes and Hines Ward to keep him in check but with the exception of QB, the Jets have more talent than the Steelers did when Tone was there.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Did you not see where I said "with the exception of QB"
I was referring to talent on the field. The Steelers Oline is not as talented as the Jets, the Jets have better RB’s, the Steelers do have better WR’s.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Don't you think that "except for the QB"
is a huge thing when we are talking about WRs? – lol
HoF QB vs. a QB that throws INTs to linemen.
112 rating idk
but yes 3-4 more years and he will be a hof
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 5:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
What?
Ben is the best QB ever…..Okay I’m biased but he is a HOF’er
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Really?
Harrison was DPOY if i recall. Polamalu, Woodley, Hell Farrior was still good. They won a damn super bowl. The Steelers with Tone were better than this Jets team, that is for sure, even taking out the QBs.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jan 1, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Well that's your opinion but I don't agree with you
Farrior is shot, Woodley only seems to wake up during the 2nd half of the season, Harrison is awesome but he’s being targeted by the NFL and Troy P. (my favorite NFL defender) gets injured a lot.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
You said
the team when Tone was in Pitt. Farrior was still good, Woodley was good, Harrison DPOY and Troy P. was huge. That team won the damn super bowl.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jan 1, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I was referring to Tone's last year in Pitt
They didn’t win the Superbowl that year and if you look at the year they won the super bowl, Tone didn’t really come up until the second half of the season.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Ah ok
I thought you meant that era in general. We can agree to disagree. I think this Jet team is very flawed. The LBs are old, they have ZERO pass rush, and Revis is really the only elite player. Greene is ok, but LT is done, and the OL took a step back. Im not a Jet fan, so I can’t say i watched every game (49ers fan) but this team didn’t look that good. I should correct that the OL has elite potential, but I still think the Pitt defense (08-09) because of their ability to get to the QB makes them miles better than this Jets team. Getting to the QB makes all the difference in today’s game, just look at the 9ers this season. Aldon Smith coming in along with the development of Ray Mcdonald has completely changed the defense which was always great on 1st and 2nd down but could never get off the field. Pressure makes all the difference.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jan 1, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Pitt had the number one defense in '08 but
they fell off in ‘09 after Polamalu got hurt. Their secondary was greatly exposed that year. I agree with you about the Jets LB’s…they definitely need some youth there and they also need to make a trade to get a decent safety.
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And don't get me started with the idiot OC in Pittsburgh
Bruce Arians is almost as bad as Schotty
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No he doesn't
That’s the biggest complaint Steelers fan have about their offense.
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Still do....
The game against SF was a perfect example of how Bruce Arians calls passing plays even though his QB was hurt. Ben threw 3 INT’s in that game and Steeler fans were pissed.
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last I check what Steeler fans are saying today has
very little to do with Tone’s experiences there when winning superbowls. A very different offense.
The offense was starting to change the last year Tone was there
and they didn’t make it to the playoffs
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you are right
The Tone Steeler teams were not any better than this 8 and 8 horrible Jet team talent wise.
LOL
Okay let me be a little more specific
The year the Steelers won SB 43 the Steelers were a ground and pound team. The following year they decided to switch to a pass first offense Ben threw for 4000+ yards but they wound up going 9-7 and not making the playoffs.
That was Wallace’s first year in Pitts, Antonio Brown wasn’t there and Hines good but not great. I’m telling you that team was not as talented as this team is WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE QB.
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How do you think it feels to Holmes to be playing with Sanchez after playing with Roths?
Answer me that.
It has to suck for Holmes
Ben didn’t want to lose him either but shit happens.
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Of course it does
To go from a QB you can trust to a guy you aren’t quite sure of. Don’t get me wrong Ben does some stupid shit on the field and off the field but I trust him a lot more than I trust Sanchez.
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That would have happened in Pitts
if it weren’t for Ben playing backyard ball and making something out of nothing.
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backyard ball though is what Ben does. That would be like saying, if not for Brees’s accuracy the Saints wouldn’t have an offense.
I wasn't knocking him for that
That’s what I love about Ben. That was more of a knock on Bruce Arians play calling.
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MD, you also follow the Steelers, right?
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Let's just not get distracted.
Holmes is a high performance sports car. He excels in certain conditions.
this
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"Grunt and Punt offense"
"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
"Planing for Manning"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 1, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Let's not get ahead of ourselves
This is the Packers offense, not just Matt Flynn.
Sanchez could do these numbers with that offense, because they stretch the field. The Jets averaged 5 yards per attempt. Pathetic.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
No chance Sanchez puts up 481 yards
Let alone 250.
lets be honest here
No way in hell Sanchez does that
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"Grunt and Punt offense"
"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
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by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 1, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
It is an unpopular view
but isn’t it amazing that sanchex throws an 18-yarder to Plax right after the last Fins FG? This is so typical. Sanchez cannot be a dink n dunk QB.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Black dog cmon son Sanchez threw two I.N.T.s to D-linemen
And it aint because hes to short…. The late completions was against prevent defence!
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
once you get over that fact
maybe you’ll realize and remember that Sanchez has made completions longer than 5 yards out.
Exactly
you can’t throw for that many when all you do is look for your RB and tight end all day. It’s safe to say Flynn would most likey be an upgrade over Sanchez.
I could be wrong
but his protection has sucked and I think they have scared him to death about turnovers. Instead they seem to get exactly that due to deflections and DBs jumping short routes.
It’s just the same anemic O they had under Schotty whed Pennigton was here. I say give him another year.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Flynn sucks
he was an awful QB at LSU and only played well today because he plays in a great offense. This guy is the next Kevin Kolb.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 1, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
It's about to get ugly in NY.
The New York media, un-named “sources”, shitty QB, porus offensive line, underwhelming defense…big changes are coming. And rightfully so.
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You can’t blame Holmes for being upset minutes after a game like that. Team eliminated, personal streak ended, yanked from the game. You just want him to come out and say everything’s wonderful?
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This will be a really interesting off-season
let’s hope some changes are made tomorrow during black monday
he's a f.a?
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by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Or the Aaron Rodgers effect....
Qb learning behind an incredible QB…..Just like Rodgers learning under Favre
Rodgers is my pick for league MVP
But Farve he is not. I don’t like the idea of putting hope in backups after seeing what KC and Arizona are now dealing with.
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Ill take that risk over the franchez
1. Manning
2. Flynn
3. Anyone
4. Franchez
Cassel actually played pretty well last year.
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by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Matt Flynn
Most of his yards are off big plays by the receivers. Jets don’t have that talent.
Flynn
is Kevin Kolb Jr. He was a garbage QB at LSU and will flop when he is not with Green Bay.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 1, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
And everyone riding Santonio needs to stop using him as some kind of goat.
Compared to how he’s lashed out ealier in the year, this is professional. I was ready to skin him when he was on the sideline but if he was taken out, so that’s not on him. Looking at some of your comments over the season, alot of you would of reacted the exact same way in that huddle.
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I think we should go after Matt Flynn
He is lighting up Detroit. Free agent at end of year…
I hope the Giants lose
And Eli lays an egg. It will make things easier for the Jets this week. I really hope this happens.
absolutely
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by Simon Says Jets on Jan 1, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Me too
The media only cares about the Giants.
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Would be soo much better
If Eli didn’t have a super bowl. The media will gush about Eli and say it doesn’t matter because he has a ring.
Nooooooooo
I would rather see the Giants win over the Cowboys. The Cowboys are the most annoying team ever.
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Fuck the Cowboys
But seriously, fuck the Giants. I’ll take Romo and Tebow coverage over OMG JETS SUCK REX RYAN IS FAT, REX RYAN LIKES FEET, REX RYAN TALKS TOO MUCH, SANCHEZ IS GAY, REVIS IS OVERRATED, REVIS HOLDS AAHHHHHHH JUST END THE SEASON
Word.
Giants fans pompousness is almost unbearable
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by NYJALLFINGDAY on Jan 1, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
SANCHEZ SPEAKS
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
he dresses as well as he quarterbacks
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
well.......he was on GQ......
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by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He has a skill issue
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I hope he wasn't being serious there
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by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
this is ridiculous
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
HE'S NOT A LEADER
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
the slime is ridiculous
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Jan 1, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get it
What do you guys expect him to say?
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go back to Hard Knocks
and go back to how they coach him into having this kind of attitude instead of coaching him on how to read coverages.
i expect him to NOT TALK ABOUT THE POSITIVES
and instead focus on how they went 8-8
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by Simon Says Jets on Jan 1, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Hunter, GONE, Mulligan, GONE, Shotty, GONE....
Neidermeyer, DEAD, Marmarlade, DEAD.
LOL
Yeah, this will be the biggest explosion since the Germans bombed Pear Harbor.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Stafford
Almost has 6 TDs and 500 yards. Calvin Johnson has 244 yards so far.
damn why cant fantasy still be around i had calvin
i mean i won my league…but common. that would of been the icing on the cake
That was actually the only thing he improved on
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by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
126 points given up off of turnovers to lead the league
He mention that little nugget?
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Hey....Cincy is losing to Baltimore
OH I FORGOT THE JETS COULDNT BEAT FUCKIN MIAMI
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by NJ Champ on Jan 1, 2012 4:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
he just said they fucking had to
look at the positives and stay positive
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Wow Green Bay seals it
And Stafford eclipsed 5,000 yards passing and 40 TDs. Hes one of 2 QBs this season now. Brees and Stafford. Pretty impressive.
Stafford
Was a 10 yard pass from Marinos former records.
If Rodgers played, there could have been four 5,000 yard passers.
Thinking those Holmes jerseys with the captain patch on them might be collectables soon
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SNY guys are right.
Sanchez looks like he’s on anti-depressants or something. Its like he doesn’t give a shit.
by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 4:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Crack, he has been ruined by Schottenheimer.
They have made him into a self-doubting, insecure, and now highly inaccurate QB.
Because he was so great when Schotty got him
It took awhile but Pete Caroll was right about this kid.
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Right on the money
They turned him into a jittery, beaten-into-submission Kellen Clemens.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
He wasnt like this during the two playoff runs though
Problem is this kid walks around on the sideline like someone ran over his dog. The QB has to be the leader, the guy that can point out John Candy in the stands when they are losing in a big game. Sanchez cant do that and it goes way beyond coaching.
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There is zero chance this is all on the coaching
This kid regressed in the worst way. And worse than that, the guys in that lockerroom probably have zero faith in him now.
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I disagree.
Sanchez was always a confidence guy. He is HORRIBLE now, but he has been made horrible by the way he was handled.
They tried to turn him into a check down touch passer. Not in his skill set at all.
You dont recall how he was in games before the red light green light crap
He looked far from confident.
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Which makes zero sense as he has plenty of weapons on the offense
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don't fool yourself
we don’t have as many ‘weapons’ as you think
But I'm sure we can all agree
that Schotty has to go. Give sanchez another year with another OC and some competition at backup QB
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Not just Schotty but the entire offensive staff
And they need a QB competition in camp like Mangini did in 06. No guaranteed jobs, make Sanchez earn something that he never did.
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Here my take on Rex
If he refuses to let Sanchez take a back seat to someone else….he has to go.
He gets to attached to his players. Cowher would probably accept his job.
I love Rex…..just hate Sanchez that much
Ugh, anything but Cowher
Last thing we need is a coach/gm, it never ever works.
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He'd make a good backup to Andy frigging Dalton
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He'd make a good backup for kellen Moore at this point
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are you suggesting we trade for the 1st pick? this is the most clueless statement on earth.
Halpy 2.0
Fire Dantoni
We could never fork up enough for Luck
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 1, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Woody wont spend the money on backups, I doubt he spends that much on a QB
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we can get rid of revis, harris, mangold, and brick
im sure theyd go for that…maybe with a few 1st rounders in there too lol
Sanchez has looked like a completely different person this year
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 1, 2012 4:56 PM EST reply actions
His "I dont give a f$%k because its my job no matter what look" is getting on my nerves
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Something about Sanchez's dopey look just makes me want to Falcon Punch him right in the face.
Formerly known as "GangGrizzle".
does anyone else feel that Rex lost the team in the last two games
I love the guy but his seat is def warm after this year
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 1, 2012 4:57 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
If the team starts badly off next season, then yea.
He’s on the hot seat.
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He definatly lost the team and Sanchez is probably hated more in the locker room than by the fans
I give Rex next year, playoffs or out. Sanchez comes back but the job isnt handed to him.
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I agree.
It’s a shame because Sanchez could have been good, that ship might have sailed. I hope he can rebound with better offensive coaching though.
I cant stand Sanchez but I think the lack of a great running game and decent gameplans really hurt him
I saw nothing in the growth or confidance department but I will say the kid is as tough as they come. He got thrashed this year but kept coming back for more. Im willing to give him another year with a better run game and another offensive staff,
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You cant have a good running game
w/o being taken seriously as being willing or able to stretch the field. this is a pass-first league.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
I agree but look at where the Jets running game has gone
The Jets had their worst running year under Rex and missed the playoffs. The reason ground and pound works is you dominate the clock, wear down the opposing defense and keep yours fresh. Jets were able to get far in the playoffs on the road because their defense was a bit fresher than the other teams that rely on the pass. Jets went away from what made them successful and they paid the price.
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Good point
but it demonstrates the need for balance. Every other team in the league (except the Denver Tebows) throws beyond the 1st down marker. how many 3rd and longs did we turn into 4th and 2s this year. Ds just loaded the box and jumped our short routes
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
I would give those records up in a heartbeat to go back in time and groud and pound
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I mean, this is obviously a passing league, with rules designed to allow passes over 10 yards.
There should have been many more runs, and many more longer passes.
Thats where I kinda get what Schotty was trying to do at times
He was trying to accelrate Mark’s growth by having him throw more but beween the penalties, drops and bad throws it just didnt work. I just dont know that even with another OC if Sanchez will have what it takes.
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it doesn't matter if you throw more
if you empty out the backfield screaming “look! I’m gonna pass!”, then, given your history, you scream “look, I’m only going to pass short of the 1st down marker!”.
That’s how defenses succeed on us. By stacking the box and jumping our routes.
At the risk of saying I told you so again,
I told you so. Now that that’s out of the way, I think that this season’s highlighted some very serious flaws with the team. At the heart of the problem is the coaching – if Sanchez isn’t developing, it’s the OC’s and the QB Coach’s job to figure out why, and if he simply isn’t any good, pursue alternatives. I don’t think Sanchez should have been asked to start his first year, and the fact that he did and did as well as he did is a freakin’ miracle as far as I’m concerned, but his development has stalled and like so many others said, the common factor in all our QB struggles is Brian Schottenheimer.
If possible, the acquisition of a solid veteran QB to help Sanchez develop under a new coach might be the best option – not only would Sanchez have pressure for his job, but he’d also have someone to learn under that isn’t Mark Brunell. I got respect for Mark Brunell but do we want Sanchez to learn how to be the next Mark Brunell? If we can get Peyton, I say we do it, but I would rather have him at OC than as a QB to be completely honest. Peyton Manning is going to be a sick Offensive Coordinator and/or Head Coach one day methinks.
The offensive line needs help, we need viable backups that don’t suck, and a new tackle. I’d like a stable reciever corp, but not one who is stable but sucky. Holmes has been below average this year and I don’t think it’s ALL Sanchez. I’d like to see Braylon back but this is the Jets, I won’t get my hopes up (plus, I haven’t been following him so I have no idea if he got signed by someone else or not).
Lastly, I don’t think it’s entirely inappropriate to say that Rex has to shoulder some of the blame for this season. It’s apparent that he’s not performing where we expected him to be and I think part of it is that he started with a quality team that’s deteriorated since last year. I also get the feeling he’s lost the team.
Braylon was cut
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I really doubt that Braylon wouldve made any differance
I really dont care if they bring him back or not honestly.
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I think it would have made a difference.
Maybe not enough to get us into the playoffs, but I don’t think the season would have been as disappointing. Sanchez and Braylon had good chemistry that could have helped a boatload this season, especially when the protection sucked. Mark may still have sucked it up, but I think Braylon would have compensated for it where Plax et. al. have not. There are lots of other things that led to these problems though.
Trading Lowry to Jacksonville was, in my opinion, a mistake. He had a better season than Brodney Pool with two more picks and a few more tackles in the same amount of games (5). Hell, if my options were Lowry and Smith, I’d take Lowry without hesitation. He isn’t, in my opinion, a long-term solution at safety but would have been better than any of Rex’s “solutions” that he pulled out this season.
by Scott Piazza on Jan 1, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
I saw that he was cut, but he’s still a FA? Hope the Jets sign him but like I said, I won’t keep my hopes up. Tannenbaum was a HUGE disappointment last season, the ONLY good thing I can see that happened during the off-season was Mo Wilkerson.
The Nnamdi Sweepstakes killed us
Cro is a good part of arguably the best CB tandem in the league and we ignored our real needs to keep cap space open for him. by the time we lost out to Philly, a lot of talent in pass rush and o line was gone. You could argue the season was going to be mediocre from that point on.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Scotty P
Good post. Rational and on topic.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
40 year fan
Sanchez lacks the vision, laks the leadership, and most certainly the composure.
The body language even before the game started said it all
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No need to mince words
He flat out sucks. No ifs, ands, or buts
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Sanchez, Wilson and our #1 to move up in Washington's spot and we get RG3.
Snyder and Tanny have a good trading relationship and I’d bet Snyder is dumb enough to do it.
Yes. lets start over and get rid of The guy who led us to 2 afc championships!
Halpy 2.0
Fire Dantoni
Pretty sure it was the defense and running game but dont let facts get in your way.
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Exactly
He may not have led us there, but he played well enough to contribute to us being there. then they gutted the O-line and started the dink and dunk shuffle.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Ha
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That's a SOJ move
QB may not be great, but that’s not why we lost. Look at the O-line, the pass rush and safety.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Kid is a turnover machine who cant throw down the field
We arent at the practices, we dont know what the coaches see. There might be a reason he doesnt go deep, maybe he cant.
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He can't when he has no time
and he DID the last two years. So what changed this year? The quality of the O lone.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Do you how many teams suffer injuries on the line and life goes on?
I think Brady lost two guys last week. Thats just an excuse and doesnt hold water for me.
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That may be so
yet I see Brady standing in the pocket with 5 seconds to throw and going through full progressions most every time. Contrast that with sanchez getting crushed with regularity this year
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps some of that is on that pile of dung that everybody around here loves
Yes, Im talking about you Mr Callahan.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Possibly
I’d still rather kill Shotty, get some depth and a new OC that can mix it up a little. Our O was just SO conservative and predictable.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
The entire staff has to go though
If its just Schotty, I wont be happy. I want everyone from Cavagnah to the WR coach gone. I want a clean slate and I want Rex taking charge. And I dont want McDaniel under any circumstance.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
can't throw down the field?
Here. How about I refresh your memory.
"Rex still believes that he is still that assistant in Balimore waiting to be a head coach" - Schein
LOL, just heard that too
Sums it up perfectly
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Jan 1, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
I generally don't like Adam Schein
But damn did he just nail Rex spot on. Time to start acting like a head coach.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
Schein is on fire today
Rex has to stop. Being the DC of the Ravens that waiting for a HC spot. Its time to start being an HC.
by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 5:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Mark is obviously shell-shocked from the season. Plenty of blame to go around.
This loss could be beneficial for us.. We have needs. and with a possible top-15 pick and middle round picks we can improve. Not to mention free agency. I think this offseason will determine whether next year will be a 6-10 or 12-4 season.
If Rex and Tanny dont make lots of changes, I see 6-10 at best
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
"we are a .500 ball club, we have to recognize it and own it" - Scott.
“You got to take that big foot, put it in your mouth and shut up”
Own it now
and make the changes that we should have made last off-season instead of chasing Nnamdi. you could argue we lost the season then, because the deficiencies showed from the beginning.
by Black Dog Jet on Jan 1, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Damn those boys are pissed
Darrelle Revis on the immediate future of the Jets: “There are going to be changes. You are going to see some different faces.”
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
These guys know its blind bullheaded Rex thats got them in this position
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
In this order
1.Mr.T ….
2.Rexxxy…..
3.Sancheez ….
4.Schitty….
5.Smith…
Start the changes from the bottem up!!
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
Lucas was a meh QB
He loses all credibility comparing himself with Manning.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
My wife asked me with a quizzical look, "he played QB?!"
Then she asked if he was any good. After Rick Mirer, Ryan Leaf could look good,lol. Lucas is a legend in his own mind.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
"Santoinio has wheels to get down the field, but they just don't call it.
I don’t understand" – Lucas
Sanchez must not be able to throw it
Its funny but this makes me recall when Mangini came in as coach and showed Pennington the book of how they use to gameplan for him. Sadly, the league has that same book on Sanchez, and its not much different. Only Penny didnt throw to the other team so much.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
uh Sanchez does have an arm
especially more than 5-10 yards down the field. So you’re quite mistaken about that. This isn’t about his arm. This is about his head.
I didn't see any of this
Matt Slauson on Jets’ jarring in huddle: “It started off between Holmes & another guy. Then everybody came at each other. It was bad.”
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
I guess he thinks the defense is perfect
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
The defense is pretty good. WIth an inept offense though it’s hard to be good when you’re on the field for 12 minutes.
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Jan 1, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
the d has kept us in nearly every game
Proud member of the fire Brian Schottenheimer club
"Grunt and Punt offense"
"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
"Planing for Manning"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 1, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
How can you blame that drive on the offense?
That was the defenses first drive coming out of halftime. No excuses.
Yeah the defense is much better than the offense but they still have nothing brag about.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
This I can agree with 100%
That defense is not the 85 Bears defense they proclaim to be.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
thats funny
Proud member of the fire Brian Schottenheimer club
"Grunt and Punt offense"
"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
"Planing for Manning"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 1, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Cro takes a shot at the offense.
I’m actually liking this. Force Rex’s hand. Gotta get this puppy potty trained.
by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 5:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Everyone watching this team each week
Knows the offense is terrible!!! They have the talent to be good, but the playcalling avoids the talent. Looking forward to the headline on the back of the post for when Schottenheimer is fired!
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
This sucks..
What a horrible season.
GANG GREEN ALL DAY!
I put God first! Anything else comes a distant second, next to a cross-country third.
Being that I'm Nigerian, being a Jets' Fan only comes natural... it's all about that old Green and White.
You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference. If you don't understand this, then you're losing big time.
Indeed...
I’m going to wait for Crackback to give us the run down on who we should take at #20. I love the analysis that some of the guys on here give. Amazing stuff I must say (tangent)
But….
Damn what a f****ing horrible season. This just frickin’ sucks.
GANG GREEN ALL DAY!
I put God first! Anything else comes a distant second, next to a cross-country third.
Being that I'm Nigerian, being a Jets' Fan only comes natural... it's all about that old Green and White.
You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference. If you don't understand this, then you're losing big time.
LT Speaks
LT on Holmes: "There were some guys in huddle unhappy w/Tone’s demeanor. t’s tough for guys to follow a captain who behaves in that manner"
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
At least
someone said it other than fans.
GANG GREEN ALL DAY!
I put God first! Anything else comes a distant second, next to a cross-country third.
Being that I'm Nigerian, being a Jets' Fan only comes natural... it's all about that old Green and White.
You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference. If you don't understand this, then you're losing big time.
This is crazy.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard of this happening before
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
Haha 1 of 3 QBs of the 2009 draft class has had a great season.
Sanchez is better tan freeman, but it’s not by alot.
Freeman is horrible.
Never understood the comparison between the two.
GANG GREEN ALL DAY!
I put God first! Anything else comes a distant second, next to a cross-country third.
Being that I'm Nigerian, being a Jets' Fan only comes natural... it's all about that old Green and White.
You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference. If you don't understand this, then you're losing big time.
Freeman has a way less talented team with no playoff exp.
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
I agree, this isnt even close to a fair comparison
Rex and Sanchez were handed a team that started 8-3 the year before, Freeman and Raheem took over an awful Bucs team that the owners wont spend a dime on.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
But on mechanics alone...
Freeman just gives the ball away on every offensive possession. I mean literally.
GANG GREEN ALL DAY!
I put God first! Anything else comes a distant second, next to a cross-country third.
Being that I'm Nigerian, being a Jets' Fan only comes natural... it's all about that old Green and White.
You see, it's not about how you won the game, it's about how you played the game.... there's a difference. If you don't understand this, then you're losing big time.
Don't bother
Sanchez is and will always be a bum to some people around here. He needs to go somewhere else so he can start all over from scratch.
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
To even be comparable and there are arguements towards both sides makes both bums
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
I dont know what makes your points better than anyone elses in here
Im a Jets fan first and I dont need a second team to comment on.
This site is for me to express my fustrations as well if you dont mind?
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
Well I guess you told me
Do you feel better?
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
I feel better because
I know this is the last time I will ever reply directly to you…HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
I dont think Sanchez is a bum but I think Freeman has better upside
When Freeman was being scouted for the draft, ever analyst called him a work in progress and very raw. I think he regressed a ton, like our boy Sanchez this year but watching both I still see a brighter future for Freeman. He still believes in himself, cant say the same for Sanchez.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
Its alway gonna be people that make excuses for this Quarterback.
The Hardest thing for some men to do is .... Believe what they see!
He doesnt deserve the excuses but he still young enough to improve
Can he? Nothing Ive seen so far says he can.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
and there will always be people blaming the QB for every single thing that goes wrong with this team
simply changing the QB does nothing.
Instead of harping on knee jerk reactions, maybe you can try looking at the whole and seeing what’s wrong with the bigger picture?
Actually
Raheem and Freeman took over a Bucks team that was 9-7 under Gruden in his last year. Won 3 games their first year, won 10 the next, and then won 4 this year. and the leading Rusher and receiver the last two years were the same guys.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
You really think Freeman and Morris came into a better situation than Rex and Sanchez?
I live down in Tampa and follow the Bucs, trust me its not close. The Bucs are frigging angling to be Englands team.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
The bucs were 9-7
Not exactly a bad situation to come into. They turned that 9-7 into 3-13.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
The owners spent no money on the team and instilled a guy not ready to be a HC
I dont even think he was ever a cordinator before getting the coaching job. He didnt get close to the same team from the year before.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
If it's the owners
How did they go 10-6???
With the same owners, and same talent, they went 3-13, then 10-6, and now 4-12. You can say it’s a bad situation, but that 10-6 season screws up your argument.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Weak schedule and guys developed some chemistry. This year the schedule was tougher and they started out well and fell apart.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
The whole team has imploded and is killing each other.
Rex is eating a salami sub to take notice though.
It's about time that it's not just the Fans expressing frustration in stupidity that is our Offense
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
It's going to be an all out brawl
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's going to be Jets O vs Jets O
Maybe the WR’s vs. Schottenheimer.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
I could see Sanchez and Schotty back to back trying to fend everyone off
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
by YankeesJets on Jan 1, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Tone will be in there as well
Seems like he has a lot of enemies
Love with a LEO is like a drug.. One taste and your addicted!
somebody should make a drawing of that
Proud member of the fire Brian Schottenheimer club
"Grunt and Punt offense"
"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
"Planing for Manning"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 1, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
I could see him busting out a crane kick
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
I think the offense fighting shows us how far we've fallen
I have to think the majority lies on shotty and Sanchez. I really think shotty doesn’t trust the kid which meant no vertical passing game which lead to our death spiral of short timing routes defenses jumped on. The fighting was really the shitty frosting on this turd cake. I can’t see cutting sanchez until next year especially since we have so many other issues to address including coaching
by sp0rtsfan86 on Jan 1, 2012 6:11 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
wow
i’m reading some of these comments, wow. it’s like many f you only show up when we lose. do you want this team to be good? i suggest we keep the coach and qb who have got us to the afcc 2 years in a row, made us winners and made fans look at a 8-8 season and want to fire everyone. we went 4-12 twice last decade, and yet fire everyone after 8-8…
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"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengel
i cant spell a nosebleed
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Mangini was dumped after 9-7 and he had injuries galore to deal with
If you live in yesterdays accomplishments, you get left behind. Back to back title games were nice but Rex used up his pass this year. He needs to keep quiet and coach the entire team next year. If next year is another playoff less season, rex should be canned.
Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.
ahh
Back to back title games were nice but Rex used up his pass this year
lets can a coach since he messed up one year. wow.
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengel
i cant spell a nosebleed
The Official Seinfeld Gif-Man of GGN!!!!!!!!
i'm a moderator for GGN. I will accept tribute.
Why does dalton have time to throw the ball against Baltimore but Sanchez had about 1.3 sec on ever play.
by dawg1331 on Jan 1, 2012 6:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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