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Mortensen: Offensive Staff Changes Likely Coming

Chris Mortensen of ESPN says the Jets are probably going to shake things up on their offensive coaching staff.

Unless the New York Jets make a miraculous run through the AFC playoffs, sources say the team will revamp the offensive coaching staff, despite an organizational philosophy of stability.

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As Rex Ryan said this week, Scottenheimer may get a head coaching job, but if he doesn't, sources say the Jets will strongly consider Norv Turner and Josh McDaniels to replace him as coordinator if either is available.

Unless you were living under a rock, you are probably not going to be surprised to hear this. There are plenty of problems with this team, but I am not sure how anybody who watches on a consistent basis can argue that this team has been well coached offensively.

We will have plenty of time to discuss this moving forward. I can't say I'm thrilled about somebody leaking this with the team still alive, though.

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Turner is my first choice at OC but honestly I’d be fine with anybody at this point.

Hopefully this won’t be a distraction to the team.

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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 1, 2012 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't be fine with Josh McDaniels.

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by dvdvil on Jan 1, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Why not?

He gets good QB play, and he might be able to give some deep insight on the Pats.

by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 12:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’d rather have Turner or Callahan. I want an old geezer type instead of another young phenom type.

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by dvdvil on Jan 1, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The Denver Broncos

The Denver Broncos.

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by Mark D on Jan 1, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but...

That was as a head coach, not a coordinator.

by cult hero on Jan 1, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

+100000000000000%

Look what he did in Denver with Orton as well as Cassell in NE. I’ve been hearing a lot about J Mac going to KC cause of his relationship with Cassell.

by JETSFAN IN SC on Jan 1, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

If McDaniels comes to the Jets

Can you imagine how more intense the Jets/Pats games would be?

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate Belichick retreads

I just think they ride Bills coat-tails. I like clemons.

by Clarke W. Griswald on Jan 1, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Well Belli rode Parcells coattails

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I just think they ride Bills coat-tails.

Charlie and Romeo both had success as coordinators in KC.

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by John B on Jan 1, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, cool.

I still don’t like McD. but that’s just me. Then again I guess anything is better then what we have.

by Clarke W. Griswald on Jan 1, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 I want McDaniels for that reason alone

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by Judgegavel on Jan 1, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I might prefer Norv.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d be thrilled with either, but Norv has put the whole thing together at a very high level before. He’s had offenses that were not only prolific scoring wise, but also fantastic QBs (Aikman, Brees, Rivers, etc.) And some all-time RBs in Emmit and Tomlinson. Plus he’s had some HOF TEs involved.

I think Norv and Rex would be a great fit too. Norv will run it, he’ll get Keller involved, and he’ll throw it down field to big WRs. He’ll unlock this bad boy.

I think Sanchez will make the leap under McDaniels and will get up and down the field, but I don’t know if he’ll get the run involved and I don’t know if he’ll score points.

by Crackback on Jan 1, 2012 12:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I agree

Norv by preference, but I’ll take either.

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by Bro Namath on Jan 1, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah

I think Norvs system is better suited to Sanchez’ strengths and this teams.

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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 1, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That's not saying much...

Anyone who actually knows how to run an offense will do better than our current OC.

by cult hero on Jan 1, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

McDaniels

also did a poor job this year in his first year as OC for the Rams. I think the fact that he couldn’t progress a young franchise QB would be highly unappealing for the Jets.

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by LiveLoveNYJets on Jan 1, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Bradford and Jackson were both injured most of the year

I also think they lost their #1 receiver as well. The guy is good but he can’t work miracles.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

He also had the disadvantage of having no offseason to implement his system. He can develop QB’s though. Look at Cassel and Orton.

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by John B on Jan 1, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Also a terrible O-line

And the whole Rams team was also decimated by injuries too

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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 1, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

And the rest of his track record is good. Like I said with Schotty, if a guy’s track record is good, you can probably excuse one bad year.

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by John B on Jan 1, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

McDaniels

I am not really a fan of his and would prefer Turner and Clements over him. I wouldnt be upset with him as OC but I think we can do better. As long as we fire Schotty and dont promote Callahan we should be ok with either Turner or McDaniels even though I think Clements is the best choice of the three.

by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 1, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

if they re-tool the whole thing

a new OC may very well demand his own new line coach. Which is a shame, Callahan did wonderful things for us, and it will be a major change in team identity.

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by Bro Namath on Jan 1, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d imagine Callahan wants to be an OC. If he doesn’t get a job, he’d come back.

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by John B on Jan 1, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Was just typing that

I think he’ll probably get an OC job though, or at least a high offer to be a line coach

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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 1, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

technically

Callahan is an Assistant Coach too, so he might be able to stick around even if they remove his tag as offensive line coach.

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by Mark D on Jan 1, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Their coaching staff is probably getting fired.

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by John B on Jan 1, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

If the new coach is dumb enough to get rid of McD

The Jets should definitely take him

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by MDGeekyGrl on Jan 1, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

In a lot of cases, the whole staff gets the boot. When the Ravens fired Billick, Rex was fired. Then Harbaugh decided to rehire him.

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by John B on Jan 1, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Spags is a goner

So McDaniels is probably going with him.

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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 1, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this is a silly move

Nobody would have succeeded in St.Louis. Spags is being scapegoated for their chronic personnel and health issues.

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by Bro Namath on Jan 1, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a Spags fan too.

Maybe Pettine gets a HC job and we land Spagnuolo, what do you think?

by Clarke W. Griswald on Jan 1, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Pettine

is not getting a head coaching job in all likelihood. Spagnuolo is a very good coordinator but he doesnt run the same type of defense as we do. The best case scenario is hiring a great offensive coordinator like Turner which would free Rex to start calling the defense again.

by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 1, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Turner

is a better choice than McDaniels for sure but I would like Clements over both of them. Any of the three is better than the garbage we have now and I really hope we go out of the organization and not give the job to Callahan.

It is also very important to hire a top QB coach and fire that stiff Cavanagh who has been a failure everywhere he has been. Turn over the entire offensive staff with the possible exception of keeping Callahan as OLine coach and nothing more. When an offense is as bad as ours it is very important to go outside the organization.

We also must let the new coordinator have full reign of the offense and in effect be the head coach of the offense. A guy like Turner has been in the league a long time so Rex would probably lay off him versus a young guy like Mcdaniels who Rex will most likely not trust fully.By the way whose idea was it to give Schottenheimer a two year extension at good money.

The one thing that concerns me is that Woody is very frugal and may not want to eat the money owed to Schottenheimer and that might be why he comes back.

by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 1, 2012 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

A good OC

can also free Rex to start calling the defense again because i dont think Pettine has been as good as Rex was.

by bklynbrewcrew on Jan 1, 2012 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

defense

what about the BIG D its like swiis cheese

by harry w on Jan 1, 2012 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

hell i'd take rob ryan as our OC

he couldn’t do any worse

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by tinley24 on Jan 1, 2012 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

any 1

we need to change it up clearly this shotty experiment has got to end

by MrMartain on Jan 1, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

This

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by Xfactor26 on Jan 1, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

get rid of sanchez too

although he may be better with a new OC…go get a veteran or trade all picks for manning. i think sanchez and shotty were each 50% of the problems on offense.

by RichTodd on Jan 1, 2012 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

How many timeouts were wasted because of an issue with the play called over the last couple seasons? How many balls bounced off a receiver or back’s helmet because they never looked for the ball before finishing their assigned route? This team never progresses beyond the play called, there’s no second effort, poor communication, the slot receivers fade if they can’t get open in the first 10 yards. There’s never a plan B or C beyond dumping the ball with a quick shuffle pass to the back. And with our line so unreliable, shouldn’t ever receiver be looking to break from a route if it’s covered? I get that Sanchez is still developing and with coordinators today, everything is scripted against percentages, but could we get a modicum of play-calling? We need a lot more than just a new OC, but it’s a start.

by NYisontop on Jan 1, 2012 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

We need to move on this quickly….once the dust has cleared here get the axe out and start a chopping and make sure Shotty is the first to get severed…no reprieves. Then decide on the guy you want and get him under contract and get him staffed up. We need to get working on the 2012 plaaybook now.

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by Canadian Jet on Jan 2, 2012 3:38 AM EST reply actions  

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