The Jets Lost Off-season

by viguy007 on Sep 5, 2011 4:51 PM EDT

The off season is finished and the real games are about to begin. Two AFC champion games in his first two years and we all thought Rex was a genus and there was nothing to stop us from going to the SB this year. This was my view at the end of last season, but now, with less then one week to go before the first game I feel very differently.

I believe we are weaker then we were last year, and we lost ground during the off-season when instead of building ourselves up, we tore our-selves down.

There was no reason to lose BOTH Edwards and Cotchery, two players in their 20's who knew our system and had developed a chemistry with our QB. They could have been with us for many years. We replaced them with 2 players in their 30's, who had no time to develop that chemistry with our QB. We will be lucky to get 2 years out of them.

We went into the draft wanting to make our DL younger. We did that. But the other two things we all talked about was the need for a faster OLB who could be a DPR and an possible upgrade to Safety. We did not do that but we had two gifts fall into our hands during the pre-season which we dropped.

Braddon Meriweather, was a first-round pick (24th overall) in the 2007 NFL Draft, has 244 total tackles and 12 interceptions over four seasons. In 2009, he had a career-high five interceptions and made the first of two straight Pro Bowls. We did not even go after him. We dropped Dwight Lowery one of our few playmakers at safety and picked up unproven safety Andrew Sendejo .

Aaron Maybin, was the former first-round pick who was released by the Buffalo Bills. Rex said he liked what he saw from Maybin in the preseason, particularly in the Thursday night finale against the Philadelphia Eagles when he had 1.5 sacks and just missed having another. He only had slightly more then 2 weeks to learn the playbook but. showed some promise. Yet we cut him, so what do we now have?

I do not see where this year's off-season has allowed us to build for now and the future.

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We will have to wait and see

but on paper i dont like much of what we did, but thats on paper.

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by SLAUGHTERHOUSE on Sep 5, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions

JCo and Braylon asked out.

JCo requested a trade in February. Braylon wanted Holmes-type money. They both can kick rocks. Mason is better than JCo anyway. And Plax is better than Braylon. And Kerley is better than Brad by FAR.

With increased involvement of Keller and Greene, and the emergence of Cumberland, this offense is way better than it was last year. Way better. And thats not even taking Sanchez’s improvement into consideration.

And you can think what you want about Belichick, but he’s not a dumb man, and if you can play he’ll find a way to play you. If he cut (not traded, but CUT) Merriweather then that speaks volumes.

As far as Maybin and Lowery go, you have watched zero practices and have looked at the same amount of game film. These guys have built a Superbowl contending team in back to back years with an infant QB. I liked both those guys as much as anybody, but I’ll trust the experts on personnel moves until they steer us wrong.

by Crackback on Sep 5, 2011 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs

Totally agree:

These guys have built a Superbowl contending team in back to back years with an infant QB. I liked both those guys as much as anybody, but I’ll trust the experts on personnel moves until they steer us wrong.

This is the point. Further-I think you are focusing on the wrong things-Merriweather is a guy who makes too many bad plays on the field (you fail to note who many blown plays he has racked up in the last few years), and Maybin was really simply not an NFL level player. He is fast of the snap and that is all, and that can’t cut it. I liked Lowery, but he is not a make or break player. I liked Braylon, and I would rather have him than Plax, but for a variety of reasons he was not going to come back. Mason is better than JCo despite the age. There are some things about some moves made in the off-season that made me raise an eyebrow, but I don’t think these are necessarily big deals. I seem to remember the same kind of doom-and-gloom before last season started (“oh-we got rid of Faneca, Jones, Rhodes, Feely, …” amd we were a better team last year than in 09. Let’s just see how things go.

by Buzzy on Sep 5, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Crack I respect you greatly, but I believe you are wrong

Your little finger knows more about football then I will ever know. You said "I’d still rather Maybin over that guy we got from Dallas who’ll likely never see the field. I am sure that you felt the same way about Merriweather, two Pro-Bowls in his first 4 years. BB is very rigid in what he demands from his players, both on and off the field. Rex is relaxed and as long as you perform on the field, he does not care who his players are. Take Plax for example. J-Co did not want to #3, I will grant you that, but . Edwards signed for 2.1 million with SF. If we told him we would match or offered 6 Million per year for 5 years he would be with us. The receivers always need to build a chemistry with the QB, and based on what I’ve seen this preseason that has not happened with our new receivers. I do not know what was the problem with Lowery, but he did make plays for us. I just think there is no SB for us this year, and took a step back for the future.

by viguy007 on Sep 6, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Plax is better than Braylon ? LOL, are we talking four years ago? Because that’s the last time anyone could reasonably argue Plax is better than Braylon.

Kerley better than Brad ? By far? Really. How many TD’s has Kerley racked up in this league? Yards gained? Um, snaps taken?

Emergence of Cumberland ?? Lmao, allow me to speak for the rest of the league by inquiring, WHO the F is that?

by nationalist88 on Sep 6, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions

I appreciate what Braylon did for us but there are quite a few reasons the Jets went the way they did and I dont see it as the big downgrade some do. Plax’s value is being 6’5" and is the red zone threat the Jets have been missing. Braylon is always a ticking time bomb waiting to happen, so the Jets went for the stop gap instead of wasting millions. And most importantly, Plax is a winner, always has been. Braylon not so much.

Its not a question of Kerley being better than Brad, the fact is the new kickoff rules made Smith expendable. I cant speak for others but I was really hoping to see the end of the wildcat. All it ever did was take Sanchez out of any kind of rhythm he had established.

Cumberland isnt scaring anybody,lol.

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by YankeesJets on Sep 6, 2011 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions

Yes, Plax is better than Braylon. Braylon is faster, but thats about it. Plax is a bigger target, has better hands, and runs better routes. Age will effect him less because he’s never been a guy to rely on speed anyway. And even though he won’t be the first option here, he has carried his team to and through big games before. Plax has been there and done that, and looks a lot like he used to. You people forget how high of a level he was playing at before. Braylon has never sniffed where Plax was at. Even if Plax has come down some, it aint much by the looks of things, and he’s still at a level that Braylon’s never been to.

Kerley can run a route and make a catch. Therefore, he is MUCH better than Brad, who can do neither.

Cumberlan is the 6-4, 260lbs, WR that we play at TE, who by the way ran a 4.45 at his pro day. He’s the guy that ran roughshod over everybody during the pre-season.

Do you even know your own team? Do you watch these guys play? Or do you just swallow everything the MSM feeds you and throw it up because your brain cramps every time you make an attempt at an original thought?

by Crackback on Sep 6, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions

Braylon does more as a WR and there are more facets to his game, he’s more physical, more of a deep threat, and better after the catch. By a lot. He’s also never had an elite QB throwing to him. As far as 34yr old Plax, it would probably be a good idea to judge the guy based on something, anything, he’s accomplished since 2007. Oh wait, we can’t.

How can you say what Kerley is, when he’s never even played in a real game? Much less compare him to a proven playmaker like Brad Smith? But this is coming from the same guy who claims our #2 all time sack leader, Shaun Ellis, sucks. Meanwhile, the best team in the AFC East decided he’s worth 4 million dollars. And personnel moves are one of the biggest reasons why NE owns the East.

And I’m sure Winslow, Newsome and Antonio Gates have been put on notice about the dreaded secret weapon of the NYJ, Jeff Cumberland. He did have a really good pro day y’know. I remember another guy who had a pretty good pro day. Name’s Vernon Gholston. Maybe you’ve heard of him. And Aaron Maybin “ran roughshod” in preseason too, didn’t he?

by nationalist88 on Sep 6, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Braylon does more as a WR and there are more facets to his game, he’s more physical, more of a deep threat, and better after the catch.

Wrong. By a lot.

And what has Braylon done aside in his career, aside from one good season? And when has Plax EVER had an elite QB?

Kerley has actually played receiver. When has Smith ever done anything, let alone even get on the field, as a receiver in the Pros. Guess how many catches Brad had in 2010… a whopping 4!!! In 2009 he went off for 7!!! Tough to beat that.

And Shaun Ellis does suck. He would get no reps on this team. Please tell me he’s better than Pitoitua so I can have a good laugh.

Thats right, anybody that has talent must suck bc… you know… Vernon and Maybin had talent too.

by Crackback on Sep 6, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Agree with everything

except Plax better than Bray. Maybin’s garbage and we’ll be fine without Lowery, Like you said, I have faith in the FO

by Jerrad p on Sep 6, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions

Bray

We have to stop mourning over this dude. He is probably going to be suspended again for a game or two and San Fran knew that and thats why he got the contract he did because theres no way he will make his numbers. The guy is as dumb as a doorstop and its imo hes going to keep getting suspended until hes out of the league for good. lets let these guys perform on the feild before we compare to the team from last year

by LongIsland Zag on Sep 6, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't care who wanted out and whatever,

But I see our team more vulnerable and I am worried, to be honest. Nice post, because I feel how you feel. I don’t feel as confident for the season to start as I usualy am, since we made so many questionable moves. All in all, I think we are definitely a weaker team.

by JetKing55 on Sep 5, 2011 5:57 PM EDT reply actions

Braylon wanted #1 receiver money, Cotchery wanted out. Can't do nothing about that.

We added lots of youth and talent to an elite team. I think mason and burress can do the same job Cotchery, and Braylon did or even better. With Tom Moore guiding schotty and Sanchez, look for lots of Keller/Cumberland. I think the jets had a good offseason. The only thing concerning me are some spots on the o-line I think we’ll be fine with Wayne hunter, but woody was a better tackle than him. At guard, Moore is a beast, but if anything ducasse scares the life out of me.

by jets4life24 on Sep 5, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions

As If You Weren't Feeling Bad Enough

Here’s a move that many of you won’t like (and some will):

Ah..here it is…Baker gone.

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Tevaseu, Trufant added to practice squad. Josh Baker released from practice squad. #Jets

I like Baker. I don’t understand that move. Rex seems to have lost his mind a bit with all these DBs. He doesn’t seem to realize that quantity doesn’t necessarily equal quality. That said, we’ll have to wait and see.

With regards to Meriweather, I’m glad he’s not here. Elsewhere, Pats fan said that during practice and preseason games that Meriweather refused to listen to the CS and would freelance on plays, ignoring his assignment, so he could make the highlight clips on ESPN and elsewhere. Rex would never put up with that crap. Then there’s all his off-the-field isses. He’s a thug and punk. We DEFINITELY didn’t need his lowlife butt around here.

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by joeklecko on Sep 5, 2011 6:15 PM EDT reply actions

Keller has a hard enough time getting the ball, losing Baker isnt a big deal

And you can never have enough depth at DB. You never know when a hammy might get pulled or a freak injury like what happened to Leonhard. Im fine with the moves and I think Rex has earned himself a little room for error.

by YankeesJets on Sep 6, 2011 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions

we have lots of ??? hanging over this team

but we will get some answers soon enough . main area of improvement this year has to be red zone scoring on offence and more ints on defence.

if its for you it won't pass you

by tinley24 on Sep 5, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions

It's way too early to tell

The Jets may not necessarily be a better team than they were last year, but really, the Patriots may have taken a step back as well. They are adjusting to a new defensive scheme themselves and have new faces at RG and WR. Ochocinco has had a less productive preseason than Plaxico even and doesn’t appear to be on the same page. Haynesworth appeared pretty out of shape in the limited snaps he saw in his one game of preseason action. Their secondary has good players with McCourty and Chung, but Bodden has been struggling to stay healthy and Barrett is unproven. Will the Patriots take a bigger step back than the Jets? Maybe. Maybe neither take a step back.

You have other playoff teams like the Colts going forward without much changes. The Colts have a questionable OL and WRs that are about injury prone. They also have some QB, his name I can’t remember, that appears like he will miss a few games to start the season. Will the Colts be any better than last year? Don’t know.

The Ravens are going forward with new faces at WR, OL, and CB. They will be relying heavily on a rookie CB to shore up a struggling secondary and an out-of-shape Bryant McKinnie to protect Joe Flacco. Like New England and Indianapolis, they still have a ton of talent, but are they better or worse? Again, it’s a hard question to answer.

Really, the Jets don’t have to be better. They’re still a competitive team and weren’t far last year. It’s not like the Jets need to add a lot more victories. All they have to do is beat the right teams at the right time. So while the 2011 Jets may not be better than the 2010 Patriots, 2010 Colts, 2010 Ravens, or 2010 Steeelers, they don’t necessarily have to be. They just have to be better than the 2011 teams and I don’t think the field has changed that much where the Jets may have lost as much of a step. After all, the Jets beat the Patriots, Steelers, and Colts last year already. They stayed competitive against the Ravens.

Chances are the Jets may not beat them again, if they happen to run into the Colts or Steelers in the postseason, but it’s not as if they won’t be competitive because some of the turnover. People who think the Jets are significantly weaker because of losing their #3 WR and not signing an overrated safety are picking at straws. If the Jets will falter at all this year, it’ll likely be caused by not enough progression by Sanchez or they were derailed by injuries.

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by Finhead83 on Sep 6, 2011 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Rec'd

The NFL is an unpredictable animal. We won’t know which areas the team have improved/faltered in until the games begin. The key word for our season is potential. Will Mo and Ellis bolster the D-line? How about Sanchez? IMO it’s way too early to tell how successful our offseason has been.

by Jerrad p on Sep 6, 2011 5:43 PM EDT reply actions