Jets vs. Raiders: Thoughts

by John B on Sep 27, 2011 6:17 PM EDT

I am officially back. Sunday I did not get to see the game live, but I finally caught the tape today. BN did a great job recapping Sunday's game so there is no reason for me to go too far in depth. I just have a few passing thoughts about the loss.

That was nowhere near as bad as I was bracing for. I was expecting to see the Raiders consistently blowing the Jets off the ball on offense. Instead what I saw was the Jets defense competing pretty well with a few uncharacteristic catastrophic breakdowns, guys failing to contain, getting out of position, and missing tackles. Against most teams, blowing a few plays means first downs. Against a guy who can finish like Darren McFadden, it means catastrophe. I am sure Rex Ryan will fix what is wrong. McFadden got 114 yards on 3 of his carries. Denarius Moore added 23 on an end around the Jets messed up containing. Oakland's other 28 rushes averaged 3.4 yards. This was not like the AFC Championship Game where the Steelers ran it down the Jets' throats for consistent big chunks of yardage. It was frustrating, but not disheartening.
It seemed like the Jets did not really attack Jason Campbell. They seemed to respect the speed of his receivers and play coverage. As a result, the team's inability to generate pressure without blitzing showed itself to be an issue once again, but the Jets accomplished their mission. Campbell averaged less than 6 yards per pass attempt.
The offensive line did not look great. Wayne Hunter looked improved. If he plays that well with Nick Mangold in there when the Jets can afford to give him more help, the line can probably get by. The issue is playing an undrafted rookie in my book. Colin Baxter did not do anything hideously bad, but I think he is more a part of the problem than the solution. When the center constantly needs help, it weakens the entire line.
I am really liking the job Brian Schottenheimer is doing so far. The Jets really schemed around their issues up front. In the first half, there were lots of bootlegs, moving pockets, and screens. They tried to get Shonn Greene to the edge and took advantage of the linemen's mobility. These guys are having trouble getting a straight push, but these guys are nimble. When the Raiders adjusted in the second half and snuffed things out, Schottenheimer had to become more conventional. You cannot blame the problems on him. The coaching was what got the Jets off to a hot start. The fiasco in Pittsburgh obscures the way Schotty improved near the end of last season. Perhaps he is growing into his job. Then again, maybe he just finally has the team where using the deception he loves makes sense.

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Yeah...

Sick of everyone blaming Schotty…defense let us down…and looking back on it, it was really on 3 plays plus the Cro muff…

I was pretty pissed Sunday, even though I kind of thought we were gonna lose, but I’ve calmed down…

We might lose the next two as well, but after those games, things get better…

I still see the Jets as a 10-11 win team…

Still have work to do though…

by Down Since '86 on Sep 27, 2011 6:31 PM EDT reply actions

Pissed and Anxious

by SLAUGHTERHOUSE on Sep 27, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions

Great post, John.

I agree with pretty much everything you say here. I think the anxiety comes from who we lost to, and the perception that the Raiders are a bad team. Further couple that with a pretty lucky win in week one and voila-lots of doubt. Last year we lost 5 games-to the Pats, GB, Chicago, Balt. and Miami. 4 of those teams were elite teams (and we were in all of those games but the Pats loss) and given our troubles under Ryan with Miami I think has lead to the incorrect perception that we clean up against average teams and only lose to elite teams. But even last year we nearly lost to the Browns, Lions, Texans, and came somewhat close to losing to the Vikings. Football games are hard to win, and even in this game there were some definite positives while the negatives were perhaps not as telling as people think.

by Buzzy on Sep 27, 2011 7:16 PM EDT reply actions

Welcome back

Agreed on most. I think Schotty needs to prioritize getting the run going.

by CervezaVerde on Sep 27, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions

Welcome back!!

by BIG OH!!!!! on Sep 27, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions

Agreed on all points. But for all you Cimini haters, check this out:

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/7482/inside-the-jets-loss

Contributing Writer - Bleacher Report
Senior AFC Analyst - TheHometowFan.com

by Ryan Alfieri on Sep 27, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions

Wow, that might have been the best stuff I’ve ever read from Cimini. Although that “Where’s Revis?” piece he wrote during the holdout was pretty good too.

by Crackback on Sep 27, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Cimini could not have wrote that

Wow, I thought professionalism didn’t exist when it came to him, and he took up for Rex. Go figure.

by BIG OH!!!!! on Sep 28, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions

welcome back john!

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by rexthejet on Sep 27, 2011 8:03 PM EDT reply actions

Baxter looked better then Hunter..

In the first half when the line was holding up decently the Raiders seemed to have game planed to go after Baxter. In the 3rd quarter when the Raiders switched up and targeted Hunter Sanchez got killed…3 sacks in five minutes. They were bad sacks too Sanchez was getting the crap kicked out of him. Wayne Hunter is not passable as a starting RT in this league..he just isn’t. I’m not trying to be pessimistic…just honest..I still think the jets are a good team and I’m not saying the sky is falling because of the loss. I think we are okay, but Wayne Hunter is still a problem and probably the weakest link on the team. I’ll be praying for Sanchez’s safety next week against the Ravens.

by RhodesRocks on Sep 27, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions

Alot of goods and bads. Nothing that practice cant fix.

I believe rex will get the defense back on order for baltimore. The offensive line held up better, but it needs to be ready for baltimore’s front 7. Despite sanchez looking shaky, he still completed over 60% 300+ yards, and 3 Tds all together. Week 4 should be week we see plaxico, mason and kerley get more involved in the offense.

by jets4life24 on Sep 27, 2011 9:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

The week*

by jets4life24 on Sep 27, 2011 9:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Schotty

This is my first post so let me be clear…I am not a Schotty-hater by any stretch, but to not have a problem with how he called that second half is kind of a head scratcher.

I have not watched the game multiple times so I may be missing something, but it seemed Shonn was having his best success running to the outside. Why did Schotty get away from that? He forces the ball up the middle with Mangold out and/or pretty much abandons the run altogether (compared to the last few year anyway). Inexplicable.

I agree with Holmes’ post-game comments too…offense (read: Schotty) needs to adjust better. From what I saw, Oakland D did all of the adjusting. Jets O did none. Can’t keep running play action when you can’t run. Adjust.

Sure, D lost this game…but how many times have they picked up the O over the past two years? D is not always going to be perfect. This is Schotty/Sanchez 3.0…they need to starting picking up the D (and the team) more than they do. That game was still winnable as bad as they D played.

I do like Schotty overall and I give him credit when he deserves it. He doesn’t deserve it here (at least not in the second half).

by O-Insanity on Sep 27, 2011 9:42 PM EDT reply actions

My brother your name is well deserved. Tell em. We have an offense that cant do squat when they could have shut the black hole up. And peeps do not see it. I watched the game again tonite and the offense and its cordinator is flat out shameful.

by overloadblitz on Sep 27, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2011/9/27/2453827/ask-the-ggn

And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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by Noble_Lance on Sep 27, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions

Generally, I am not a fan of Schotty. But I have been liking how he is FINALLY using Keller. I felt like towards the end of the season last year, I didn’t see anything from him.

by Goalvalchuk on Sep 27, 2011 11:49 PM EDT reply actions

Move On!!!!!!!

It’s time to move on from our week 3 loss. We need to concentrate our efforts on the Baltimore Ravens.

by Da Green Mile on Sep 28, 2011 12:00 AM EDT reply actions

I got to admit it...

…B-Schotty hasn’t been too shabby. It’s most noticeable that he’s adjusting around the condition on the field. I’d like to see better time of possession, but then that requires a running game.

Enough with the soccer, ESPN. Damn!

by ApprxAm on Sep 28, 2011 2:03 AM EDT reply actions

I still think the ref’s played a pretty big factor in the loss. Not gonna blame it all on them but some of those calls were just… bad.

I think Jim Leonhard should be in the next Nike "Boom" Commercial or at least the next time he makes one of those tackles he needs to jump up with a can of Kool-Aid and shout "Oh yeah".

by Tamarack on Sep 29, 2011 9:56 PM EDT reply actions