Jets 32 Jaguars 3: Early Afternoon Blowout
The Jets are 2-0 after winning a 32-3 laugher today in the Meadowlands against the Jaguars. Although some early miscues caused stress, this one was much easier on the nerves than the opening week win. A defense that did not play well in the opener made Luke McCown look like Curtis Painter.
More under the jump.
The Good:
Antonio Cromartie: Cromartie bounced back from a bad opener as he should have facing an opponent with a normally suspect receiving corps depleted even further by injuries. He was rock solid in coverage. He registered a pair of interceptions, doing what he should have done when a quarterback forces a throw in coverage. He was also much better as a return man, averaging 42 yards on kickoff returns and almost running an interception back for a touchdown.
I have one nitpick. When you are running down the sideline, the ball should be in his outside arm so that it goes out of bounds in case you get stripped. Cromartie is running with it inside. He did this on the interception return and then switched it outside as he was extending it for a touchdown. That is when the ball should be on your inside arm trying to keep it in bounds. Aside from that, Cro had a great game.
Muhammad Wilkerson: Maurice Jones-Drew had the least effective 88 yards on 18 carries I have ever seen. The Jets did a great job up front. Wilkerson stood out for a sack that resulted in a safety. Beyond that, he was winning his assignments.
Sione Pouha: He deflected a pair of passes. He also controlled the point of attack. Jones-Drew broke a few big runs, but his good numbers were not a result of consistent good chunks of yardage.
Mike Devito: He was also part of the good work up front. He finished with 5 tackles.
Eric Smith: I thought he would play well today because Jacksonville is a good running team. He was great in coverage, though. He jumped a pass early to break up a pass and picked one off later.
Shonn Greene: His 49 yards on 16 carries does not tell the whole story. His run blocking, particularly with Nick Mangold out, was suspect. Greene grinded out more yardage than he had any business getting running through arm tackles and exploding through tight running lanes. His average was also hurt a bit by getting carries on obvious run downs.
Darrelle Revis: You barely heard from him because he locked his man down so thoroughly that McCown did not even bother throwing his way.
Dustin Keller: It is nice to see the Jets exploiting the mismatches he poses. The Jaguars could not cover him with their linebackers. He found the open spots in the defense and was explosive after the catch, finishing with 6 catches for 103 yards and a touchdown.
Santonio Holmes: He only had 3 catches for 42 yards, but he broke ankles on the move he made on his early touchdown reception. That touchdown set the tone for the game.
Mark Sanchez: Perhaps it is hypocritical of me to put him here this week after listing him as bad last week for turnovers. Both interceptions were bad. One was a force. The other was a result of staring down a receiver. Those throws are just the player Sanchez is at this point in his career. I guess we should resign ourselves to it. Not to sound trite, but Mark is a gunslinger. He takes chances. His two touchdowns were throws into tight windows. They encourage him to take similar chances that result in plays like the interceptions. A lot of quarterbacks would not have thrown the balls he threw for interceptions. They also would have avoided the throws he made for touchdowns. He is a high risk-high reward guy right now. That is enough for today. The defense had his back after the mistakes. The 71% completion percentage is encouraging. He also made smart decisions to tuck and run as he finished with 3 carries for 29 yards.
Kyle Wilson: He was good in coverage. He tackled to limit any damage when there was a completion. He forced a rushed throw as a blitzer. So far, the Jets have to like what they have seen from their third corner. A defense like this cannot have too many good cover guys.
Calvin Pace: He finished with 5 tackles and was a presence in the first half getting into the backfield to make plays.
Nick Folk: The kickoffs were not as good as last week, but he was 3 for 3 with a 45 yarder.
Jeremy Kerley: He really did not get a chance because Matt Turk punted well. He made smart decisions, not trying to do too much. He also baited some gunners into touchbacks by focusing on him instead of the ball's trajectory.
Josh Mauga: With an interception and a pass defensed building off a strong preseason, he is making a case to get on the field as a nickel linebacker.
The Bad:
Wayne Hunter: It is one thing to get whipped by DeMarcus Ware. It is another to get whipped by Matt Roth. Hunter got Mark Sanchez hit a few times and got beaten badly a few other times that were no quite as obvious. Even worse, he took two penalties, one a personal foul. Maybe I am reading too much into it, but it was very annoying to watch him laugh after the two penalties. You have been horrible this year. You just made a boneheaded play to dig a hole. This is funny? I have seen guys get cut for stuff like that. It will not happen with Hunter because he just signed a new contract, and the team has nothing behind him. He improved as the year progressed last year. Jets fans can only hope for something similar this year.
Collin Baxter: He has an excuse. He is a developmental undrafted rookie free agent. He is not supposed to play this year. He looked the part. The snaps were discombobulated. One resulted in a false start. Another got Greene's clock cleaned because the rest of the line was not ready. He looked lost as a blocker. He was confused with his assignment and ended up blocking nobody too frequently. This is to be expected. Disturbing is that Nick Mangold's injury did not look good, and four straight opponents, Oakland, Baltimore, New England, and Miami with strong interior defensive lines are up next.
LaDainian Tomlinson: Ineffective as a runner (6 carries, 8 yards), not much of a factor in the passing game (1 catch, 7 yards), and a big drop to end a drive right before the half.
Marquice Cole: Bad penalty as a gunner and blew another tackle.
Other Thoughts:
- Plaxico Burress was not necessarily bad. He had no catches, but he was off the field a lot. When he was on the field, he drew attention. That opens things up for other guys. Keller and Holmes are now the big guns in the passing game. Other guys might be doing their job even if they do not get numbers.
- I really liked the reverse to Antonio Cromartie even if it resulted in nothing. It gives the defense something to think about. Even when he does not get the ball, when he is faking an end around it prevents defenders from flying at the running back. With Wilson's emergence as the third corner, the concerns about an injury become less. Cro is a better option than Jerricho Cotchery was last year.
- I know there will be calls to bench Wayne Hunter. Just because a guy is really bad does not mean a downgrade is impossible. He has not been great, but he is still better than what the Jets have behind him, at least until Robert Turner gets back. Yes, I am sure. If he is still playing like this then, maybe the Jets should consider moving one of the guards outside and having Turner play guard.
That makes the Jets 2-0 for the second time in three years. Next up is a trip to Oakland to play a Raiders team that had its heart ripped out today before a really tough stretch. The Jets are banking wins early, which is what they need to do.
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any news on mangold
he was standing on the sideline, which is good, i guess
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You should have made a section for Wayne Hunter
He played absolutely terrible
+1000000
i have a really bad feeling about Hunter this year, this is 2 weeks in a row he has been manhandled and got called for a couple penaltys…i hate to say it but Big Vlad may need to get some playing time if Hunter gets beat consistently next week at Oakland
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
Wayne, you time is almost up.
2 more weeks and your ass is hitting the bench for good.
Btw I don’t agree at all that the Jets don’t have anything good behind him. Ducasse will be making a ton of Jet fans eat crow in a few short weeks.
what really pissed me off was he got called for a facemask penalty on a play where Sanchez made a nice throw for a 1st down..the camera showed Hunter just standing there with a “Romo-esque” smile on his face…i cant stand when players are laughing after they totally mess up a play
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
I saw that smile and it pissed me off too..
Wayne Hunter had absolutely nothing to smile about that game…We are in trouble, most teams have a pass rusher as “talented” as Matt Roth.
You do know people deal with things differently.
I doubt Wayne was happy with his play there, that was just his reaction. Some people just don’t like to show how upset they are and it’s ridiculous to blame someone for a facial expression or a reaction they have after making some bad plays. You don’t know what he’s thinking in that moment, just because he was smiling doesn’t mean he wasn’t pissed with himself. If he said something after the game, making excuses for himself or something like that, fine, but seeing his reaction for two seconds and saying he’s not taking it seriously is absurd.
by Evan_S on Sep 18, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
insert Derek Andersen postgame clip here...
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
My point exactly
He was laughing, so what? What does that mean? That he didn’t care? I was at a funeral last week where, guess what, people were talking and laughing. Yes, people get pissed off or upset, but you don’t have to dwell in it and sulk for the rest of your life. Just cause he was laughing doesn’t mean he was happy, different people cope different ways and you have no right to judge them for their reaction. Again, if they say something about it, that they sincerely don’t care, that’s different, but not everybody goes into a rage or a crying fit or a stoic pose when they are angry, upset, annoyed, etc. Just cause you don’t like the reaction doesn’t mean they don’t care.
When someone is laughing, it’s a pretty clear indication they are either amused, or not taking something seriously. And I don’t like either option in the case of Wayne the fastest path to the quarterback Hunter.
by nationalist88 on Sep 18, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
But that's not true
People laugh in bad situations. Like if I make a stupid mistake on a math test, I’ll laugh it off, but I’m still pissed I made the mistake. Different people react differently to situations and insinuating Hunter wasn’t angry at his mistakes because he laughed is wrong. You don’t know what someone is thinking and you shouldn’t try. If he came out and said “it’s no big deal” or “it wasn’t my fault,” bash the guy all you want. A smile or a laugh does not mean they are happy.
And going to the Derek Anderson comment someone else made, he was talking with a teammate on the sidelines, maybe his teammate was trying to cheer him up because no one wants their friend/teammate to be pissed off at themselves for something that they can’t change.
It annoys me when people think they can tell what another person is feeling. It’s impossible, so don’t bother.
I'm blaming him for having a terrible game against a lackluster pass rush..
Laughing about it was just the icing on the cake.
i think what really got me riled up about his laughter was he got called 2 times for penaltys AFTER the Jets made a big play, one play was a great pass and completion by Sanchez for about 20 yards and the next play was a nice off tackle run by Greene for 10 yards…just seeing him standing there smiling and knowing he just cost his team a big play is uncalled for
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
Vlad looks horrible on a couple of plays but, and here is the difference, he looks really good on some and decent on most. Hunter looks consistently bad and not very good on any. They both look like they’re gonna get the qb killed twice a game, you might as well go with the one that looks really good once and a while and has more upside
by george JETson on Sep 18, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This was a point I tried to make the other night
Hunter has hit his ceiling. He is in his 30’s. you know when he’s going to get beat and how. Vlad is still improving and showed imense promise from week to week in the preseason.
In other words:
If both players have gotten their QB in trouble do you go with the guy who has shown that he is trending upward or the guy who is at his physical limitation and still showing the rusher the way strait to the QB.
I have seen plenty from Vlad to tell me he will be fine if not better in the passing game.
I 110% Disagree
Vladimir isn’t built for our running game.. He’s a good run blocker, and Hunter is just a good back up… We need a solid guy on the side that can play pass and run.. Sounds crazy but we sholud talk Woody out of retirement bc mark is gonna get killed by week 6 if these are our options
by lnford4 on Sep 18, 2011 5:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If we start vlad, and mark gets blow up by Suggs or wake, then what? Brunnel? I will be damned
by lnford4 on Sep 18, 2011 5:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ducasse will be making a ton of Jet fans eat crow in a few short weeks.
The most popular guy in town is always the backup quarterback.
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Lol except in the Jets case...
I don’t think anyone wants Brunell..
I don't think so
Kellen Clemens was never popular and back in my early Jets years, I hated Al Woodall.
JAGUARS RULE!!!!!!!!!!
But for real, McCown blows, and i feel like Sanchez is playing a lot better, good game guys.
Mangold's injury is a huge problem.
The Jets have nonexistent O-Line depth.
Also, start Ducasse already. Hunter is not blocking anybody while making boneheaded plays, the only way Vlad could be worse is if he turned around and tackled Sanchez himself.
Vlad was getting killed in preseason by 3rd strings.. He’s the reason our 3rd qb is down. We can’t offered to put a project back there
by lnford4 on Sep 18, 2011 5:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We need to get Hunter out of there..
IDK if Vlad is ready to step up and do it but honestly he can’t do much worse…yes its possible he could do a little worse somehow…but hunter is getting manhandled on nearly every single play, hes committing drive killing penalties, and hes still letting people take shots at Sanchez. There is nothing good about his play even if Vlad did all those things he would be playing just the same as Hunter. We need a change if we want to give Vlad a shot or if we want to go out and get someone that is up to the Coach’s and FO…but we can’t afford to start Hunter.
by RhodesRocks on Sep 18, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
There is nothing good about his play even if Vlad did all those things he would be playing just the same as Hunter.
If one guy is getting whipped on 50% of plays, and the other would get whipped on 60% of plays, the first guy, while not very good, should play.
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That's why I said it is possible he could do a little worse...
I think that in that scenario its worth it to take a chance and see what the other guy can do. If he gets whipped on 60% of plays then yes he is playing worse then Hunter and he needs to be replaced. What I’m saying is something needs to change we can’t have Hunter in there getting whipped on 50% of the plays. He’s not playing at a level that I would even call decent or passable. Since he is playing at such a low level I wouldn’t really be worried someone might do worse then him, because someone might also do better, and like I said if they don’t do better then they will need to be replaced as well.
Free Agents?
There have got to be better FA’s out there than Hunter. Hell, I’d rather see Woody come out of retirement than watch Hunter anymore.
Patriots offense looks scary good.
Jets have work to do if they want to win the division. Still, 2-0 is 2-0.
So does their defense...
but in the bad way. SD totally mismanaging the game should be tied, Norv Turner is the worst coach in the NFL.
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I'm not gonna worry...
The Chargers—as they often do—had every chance to win that game. Three turnovers past your opponent’s 35? That’ll kill any team. The Chargers lost a completely winnable game.
If the Chargers have what it takes beat New England, so do the Jets.
A few thoughts
1) On Mo Wilks safety, I think he lined up over center and they rushed 3.
2) Eric Smith had 1 INT but he could have had about 3.
3) Keller was all over the field again. TE, WR, FB. Great game.
4) I guess they are getting their money’s worth with Cro. I too have injury concerns but perhaps they are just trying to keep his head in the game by keeping him involved all over.
One other thing
McCown had a passer rating of 1.8. I had in my head that the lowest rating one could have was like 26.2 or something. But I guess not. Rex said that 1.8 was a Jets defensive best but that he had a 0.0 in Baltimore. I looked up who that QB was and it was none other than Eli Manning in 2004.
by CervezaVerde on Sep 18, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Did Kenric play?
i watched every snap but i dont remeber seeing Kenric in at all
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
But He Still Won Us The Game
He’s the reason we blew Out
And That Is a JET FIRST DOWN!!!
No This is Patrick...
by JetsFanMurphy on Sep 18, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think You're missing a section
The Kendrick Ellis
The Man Who Won Us the Game
Goes To Kendrick Ellis
And That Is a JET FIRST DOWN!!!
No This is Patrick...
From what I saw I would add two guys to the good section
It seemed to me that both Dixon and Scott had really good games. Of course a slow motion replay of the whole game might say something else, but they both looked good to me.
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hunter was ok not completly bad
his play is way to inconsistent some plays he blocks really well other plays he doesnt. and no i dont mind him laughing after the penalties were called on him alot of players do that around the league and no i have not heard of anyone getting cut cause they committed a penalty. Hunter will get better im sure of it. Cro has had two good weeks in a row. kyle looked good. our running game is coming together and would have been nice to see nick not hurt himself but he is a tough guy and he’ll be back soon. n is it just me but i think teams are giving a lot of attention to plax even when he doesnt record a pass. also great job by dustin
I agree with a lot of your points but..
Hunter was completely bad, he was just as bad last week and most people wanted to give him a pass because Ware is such a good pass rusher. It wasn’t that he was getting beat by Ware that bothered me but how badly he was getting beat by Ware that was bothering me and the fact that he didn’t look look like he knew what he was doing out there. This week he went up against a very mediocre pass rusher in Matt Roth(He has less sacks in his career then Ware has in a season) and Hunter still got dominated consistently, gave up a sack, let Sanchez get knocked around, and caused two drive killing penalties. It was a horrible game for Hunter, and here’s the thing I don’t think hes going to get better. Hunter is not some rookie like Slauson who is still learning. Hunter has been in the Jets system for years and in the leauge for much longer. He is 30 and past his physical prime. If the guy wasn’t even starting material in his prime, its not very likely he is going to develop into starting material now, and even less likely he is going to develop into starting material in the future.
BIG OH!!!!!
u can only give me two plays where he did bad one against roth and the other on # 93. i dont know the down or distance all i know is that if u watched the game, at times he blocked well
are you related to him?
i watched only the first half of the fourth quarter and i saw him get beat 2 or 3 times
i saw hunter get beat
and mark have to step up away from the pressure from his man a few times. almost everytime mark was pressured it was linked to hunter. Are you forgetting the 2 penalties? those are big yardage penalties that stall drives and put us in 3rd and loooonnnnggggg. You are being too optimistic if you think hunter was ok. I liked baxter’s play more than his play
We are in another atmosphere. You're just in the Troposhere we in the Exospere. In other words the JETS are higher than you!
by Fly-as-a-JET on Sep 18, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He stopped two straight drive with killer penalties
I blame Mark second INT on him, yeah I know mark threw it, but his face mask penalty took away a first down run for by Mark. Then on third and thirteen, Mark force a pass trying to get a first down he should already had. Then on the next series his hold negated another first down play. The problem with him blocking well at times is the Jags were the worse in the league last season getting sacks. In other words they have no one who can generate pressure from their line. So against this team Hunter is suppose to play ok, but we all seen he stunk it up.
Exactly if he is getting dominated by Matt Roth..
Who can he handle? Basically no one…this is two games in a row where he has shown nothing to show that he deserves to be a starter for the New York Jets. He looked god awful most of the time and that shouldn’t cut it on any team, none the less a championship contender…How do you think Hunter is going to do against Baltimore?
Ngata vs Hunter
Might as well start Brunell for that lost
Keller
I was glad to see the Jets utilize him as they should. Hopefully, this year, they won’t ignore him the rest of the season. I saw part of the Panthers game today. One of the starting DBs went out with an injury. The Panthers immediately tested his backup, and got a big gainer on the play. Also, when they saw that a LBer was lined up on one of their receivers, they immediately spotted the mismatch and went to that. If Chudzinski and Cam Newton can see that and make that play, why can’t Schotty and Sanchez??? Schotty NEVER exploits mismatches. It’s like he thinks that isn’t very sporting or something. Keller should have a mismatch almost every week. He should get more passes than Holmes, Tomlinson, or Plax.
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I didnt think it would be a blowout.
I was pretty hopeful about a 1st drive TD though. We were due one.
We had to get a couple of picks.
Sucks Manigold got hurt and that Hunter still struggles.
At the risk of getting flamed by any Jags fan, there is no way Garrad could have done worst. I know the decision to release him was more of a money thing than anything else but, you get what you pay for in this case.
YESSS
Maclin almost singlehandedly erases my opponent’s lead over me this week
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