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Final Preseason Week Wrap Up: Eagles 24 Jets 14

EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - SEPTEMBER 01:  Eddie Jones #99 and Muhammad Wilkerson #96 of the New York Jets celebrate a fumble against Philadelphia Eagles during their pre-season game at MetLife Stadium on September 1, 2011 in East Rutherford, New Jersey.  (Photo by Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images)

I know I've been saying it all preseason, but don't look too much into this one. Most of the people we saw tonight will be riding the pine all season, if they even make the team at all. Several of our players that aren't in danger of losing their roster spots were the most effective, some in the front seven and others in the secondary.

Several players made surprising cases to make the team, including Aaron Maybin, Eddie Jones, Drew Willy; Ellis Lankster, Nick Bellore, Matthias Berning, and others. Other players came short and will probably find themselves gone long before Tuesday.

I'm so grateful the season is about to start, I just can't take it anymore. Don't get me wrong, I love studying our backups and situational players, as well as the guys just battling for a spot on the team, but I'm yearning for some real football. Give your thoughts on the game and what you expect from the upcoming season below. I expect good things this season still, even if our reserves lost to theirs. A more thorough breakdown on the game player by player after the jump.

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Perhaps the most surprising was Drew Willy's showing on the field. Willy went 9 for 16 for 109 yards and a touchdown on the field in relief of Greg McElroy, who left the game with a dislocated thumb after hitting half of his 6 short passes for 29 yards. It wasn't an incredible showing from Willy, but it wasn't all that bad either. I like his preseason success to other QB's struggling to make a team, nothing to write home about. The guy will never be Tom Brady, or Mark Sanchez, or Chad Henne. He's a career backup, if he's lucky.

The rushing effort was pretty pathetic, like it has been most this preseason. To be fair our runners have been behind reserves and guys struggling to make it in the game. Even when starters are on the field in earlier games, some of our guys, such as Moore, haven't been there for precautionary reasons. I just don't want anybody to panic because of rushing has been lackluster in the preseason. With all of that said, our top rusher was Dan DePalma who picked up 8 yards on a single run around. Joe McKnight picked up 6 yards on 4 attempts, yuck. Bilal Powell got 4 yards on 7 attempts. Poor Chris Jennings, who you can be fairly certain will not make the team after tonight if you weren't sure already, lost a yard on the one carry he was given. Sorry, Chris. Good luck.

For those following the Vlad watch: Ducasse jumped early three times, but as someone else mentioned Vlad rotated at least three positions on the line tonight and played all of them fairly well. Vlad has been quietly improving for us this preseason, I don't think people should be too concerned about our line anymore.

Jeff Cumberland was a bright receiving spot on a quiet offensive evening, leading the team with 36 yards. Joe McKnight caught a couple of passes from the backfield for 16 yards, making a case that he can replace LDT in situational plays after he retires. Scotty McKnight made a case for himself with a gorgeous touchdown catch.

Nick Folk missed a 52 yard field goal short and wide. I don't mean to be picky, that was a really hard kick, but they way that flew and landed it looked like it would have had a hard time making the uprights no matter where he was kicking from. Folk's two extra points were good. Conley proved the FO made the right choice in choosing him for the new punter, as he nailed the other team inside the twenty and kicked a 60 yard punt.

Especially impressive were two young men, Aaron Maybin who I'm sure you know, and Eddie Jones who you may not. Both were very disruptive in the Eagles backfield tonight, probably the most entertaining part of the game for Jets fans. Maybin got 1.5 sacks and some pressure, and I think he's all but a lock for the team. Eddie Jones is a bigger question mark, but he certainly did all he could with 5 tackles (including a couple for losses) and a fumble recovery.Nick Bellore's 4 registered tackles don't really do him justice, he might not, but I hope Nick makes the team. In spite of the fact that he led the team with 8 tackles most people, including me, don't think Brashton Satele should make the team. He just doesn't look like an NFL caliber player. Insert pizza shop joke here. Matthias Berning also made a case for a shot at the regular season roster, but I'm not sure if that's going to be possible with all of the great talent vying to make the team this year.

Ropati Pitoitua didn't play very long, but he looked like a force to be reckoned with on the line. Marquice Cole and Emmanuel Cook both looked pretty sharp when they were playing. Cole especially, who pulled down a sack. Marcus Dixon looked extremely impressive on the field as well.

Jamaal Westerman pulled down quite a few tackles and looked like a safety out there playing mop up for practice squad fodder, but as much as I have been defending him, I must admit Jamaal looked confused and turned around on several plays throughout the game. I think Jamaal still has a chance to excel as a situation and rushing player, but playing every down doesn't appear to be for him.

Kyle Wilson and Brodney Pool seemed to have communication problems on the field. In my opinion, both were far too quick to blame the other for their own shortcomings. I think Kyle Wilson got picked on a little bit this week, although that may generate a visceral reaction. Just keep in mind that Kyle is going to be a slot and dime guy. Give him time, he IS improving in coverage, last week is proof. Kenrick Ellis was kind of disappointing. I'm hoping he blooms into a force to be reckoned with this season.

That's all I got for thoughts on this weeks game. The offense was pretty lame. That's probably an understatement. Don't give it too much thought, just prepare yourself for real football. P.S. We've only seen flashes of it, but I absolutely love Jeremy Kerley's speed and versatility. I think he's a perfect replacement for Brad Smith. I just hope B.S. doesn't misuse him or turn him into an overly gimmicky player.

How do you feel about our team, moving into the regular season?

 

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Maybin?

I for one think he did enough tonight that we should keep him around..as far as speed rushers go I’m not sure we have a better prospect on the roster, and if we can develop him..he could be exactly what our D needs to take it to the next level. I think he had a tough time in Buffalo, but honestly who wouldn’t. He has barely any talent around him and I’ve never really heard that the buffalo coaching staff was anything special(No offense to any Buffalo fans, I for one hate the Jets OC, just saying.). I think if anyone can get something out of him its Rex Ryan with his brilliant defensive schemes and the large amount of other talent he has assembled on the jets D, because lets face it…its easier for guys to preform well when they have talent around them.

by RhodesRocks on Sep 1, 2011 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

to be fare he did have pretty good D cord. in his rookie yr. to work with.
i’ve never really heard that the buffalo coaching staff was anything special
think he had a tough time in Buffalo, but honestly who wouldn’t. He has barely any talent around him

not sure that’s a valid argument if you go by the theory of the cream always rises to the top.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Sep 2, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh.

The top of what though?

It depends on the position too.

by cult hero on Sep 2, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

in games i seen he was never doubled

if your a “stout” pass rusher needing only to beat 1 man, n you cant ….well that would be the cream or lack there of. IMO

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Sep 2, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

See the thing is...

We don’t need him to be an amazing dominant pass rusher, it would be great if he was but honestly with the other players around him if hes an average/slightly above average pass rusher I think our secondary and D-Line will make him look good.

by RhodesRocks on Sep 2, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybin is gonna be a player in this system.

Cumberland is gonna make plays all season long. 2 TEs yall. Mark it down.

by Crackback on Sep 1, 2011 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

lets not get carried away here.

the eagles 1st string O line is bad ,just think how bad their scrubs are..

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Sep 2, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's got a great burst, which is extremely useful in our system.

It makes things easier for everybody else. He’s either beating his man outright, creating space for blitzers, or drawing a RB help over to his side (which gives blitzers a free run).

He’s a good fit in our system. Go splash ur “cold water” on the injury bug running rampant in the Giants locker room.

by Crackback on Sep 2, 2011 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hey! you leave my injury bug riddled team out of this!!!!

Well i guess this is another" we shall see", that more then likely u get wrong..

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Sep 2, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel okay. The things I took away from the preseason…

- We are set at TE for the foreseeable future.

- We are screwed if even one of our Offensive Linemen go down

- Letting go of Shaun Ellis was the right call (and I say that as a guy who just three weeks ago was crying tears of blood over that departure.)

- McKnight and Powell may develop into something at some point, but I am glad to have LT for this year.

- Rex Ryan can develop anybody into a player that looks like they could play in the NFL. Except for Vernon Gholston.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Sep 1, 2011 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Ehhh, we can handle ONE o-line injury. I actually feel pretty confident in Ducasse now. Beyond that, yikes :S

And I’m still not really very happy about LaDainian still being around. He’s actually played with some starting o-linemen and has looked as burnt out as TJ did last year with the Chiefs. Meanwhile McKnight hasn’t had that luxury for the most part and Powell hasn’t at all. About the only thing LDT could possibly provide that makes it worth giving him snaps over either of them is his pass blocking ability.

by Exystence on Sep 2, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

The other thing LT has is..

Pass catching ability…I’m still not comfortable with Greene catching passes especially on third down. He has stone hands at times, and if I remember correctly when he was in college he never really caught passes out of the backfield. So I think they should keep working with him at it but until then unless McKnight can step up and catch passes out of the backfield consistently. I still want LDT catching passes out of the backfield..if he looks terrible or can’t get us first down then by all means pull him out, however I think as far as a solid third down back for passing downs LDT is the guy for us.(Best pass blocker and best hands coming out of the backfield on our team, which are the two things that count on long passing downs….Short yardage third downs Greene should be our man.)

by RhodesRocks on Sep 2, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I had seen your post, I would have saved mine. Agree 100%. This is one of the most dangerous players of all time here. Even though he isn’t anywhere near what he once was, he is still a very solid backup to have. Certainly better than anything else we could have behind Greene right now.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Sep 2, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

It isn’t just his pass blocking.

I do agree 100% that LT is done as an every down guy. Ideally, that will be Greene all year. But in a big third down spot, I still trust Tomlinson on checkdowns a lot more than McKnight. Not to mention the fact that LT rarely fumbles and I still haven’t seen McKnight look like anything more than a solid special teams guy against anyone but the Bills.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Sep 2, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Berning

should at least get a shot on the PS if nothing else. Because I was there live to watch him level Kafka and I have to say holy crap. That was a thing of beauty and it made them have to take a TO while he recovered.

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by Noble_Lance on Sep 1, 2011 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh I say without a doubt he's on the practice squad...

but he has no shot at the team.

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by Judgegavel on Sep 2, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

LB is going to come down to two out of Maybin, Bellore and McIntyre I think...

tough call all around, go with the two OLBs and it leaves us only 1 sub at ILB (Mauga), take Maybin and Bellore, and are 2 back-up OLBs (Westerman and Maybin) are really just pass rushers and not complete players. Go with Mcintyre, and Bellore and you may miss out on a potential very good pass rusher. I hope they find a way to keep all three, but 9 LB on a team is a lot to ask.

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by Judgegavel on Sep 1, 2011 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

You Guys Who Were Able to See the Game

WTF happened with the running attack? DePalma was the leading rusher with only 8 yards?? McKnight only had 4 attempts and Powell only 7. Was our OL that freaking bad or Philly’s 2nd team DL and LBs that good?

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by joeklecko on Sep 1, 2011 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

They never really tried to establish the run...

I think they had like 15 carries the whole game. In part it was because they had a lot of mistakes on first and second down, I also think a lot of the competition on the team was at WR, and once McElroy went down they wanted to see what Willy could do, so they were intent on passing most downs. But over all it was just very sloppy play on offense by mostly 3rd stringers.

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by Judgegavel on Sep 1, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our offense didnt establish anything last night

by JetsFan718 on Sep 2, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heard Maybin played well

I didn’t watch though. Did he make a case for a roster spot?

by NYJALLFINGDAY on Sep 1, 2011 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, and yes, although I think its still very close.

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by Judgegavel on Sep 1, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent.

In that case, I think he gets his shot, just because how hard he busted with the Bills. Rex will want to make this kid into something.

by NYJALLFINGDAY on Sep 1, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

So how about...

Putting Brunell on IR and keeping McElroy Jetson and Drew Willy Namath? lol

by umohan21 on Sep 1, 2011 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't do that...

not to mention McElroy dislocated his thumb, so if anything he might be headed to IR.

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by Judgegavel on Sep 2, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair to Kenrick Ellis

He did play a lottttt of snaps on Monday night. He’s had very short rest and very little practice time. He’s a raw talent to begin with. All of those factors contribute significantly to his struggles tonight. He’s only going to get better.

by Exystence on Sep 2, 2011 12:21 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I think he was far more raw then we all thought though...

I’m thinking he doesn’t make much of an impact till next season (maybe the end of this one if we are lucky).

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by Judgegavel on Sep 2, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

He just needs to get used to getting lower

He’s probably used to being able to just bowl over guys with his pure size, strength and athleticism combo in college. He’s still bigger than everyone in the pros, but considering everyone’s big, strong and athletic now he’s gotta use technique too. It all depends on how long it takes him to pick up that part of the game. I think it’ll be sooner than you expect.

by Exystence on Sep 2, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybin is the real deal

He’s been on the Jets for maybe 28 days if that. He’s got around 3 sacks in 4 preseason games and maybe 10 pressures. Just missed another sack of Vince Young because he couldn’t wrap him up. He has the kind of quickness and ability that doesn’t really need to learn plays to pass rush. He can be productive just chasing down the QB as he gets into the playbook.

by manuvsteal on Sep 2, 2011 3:06 AM EDT reply actions  

MAYBIN!!!

ok lets look at this as if he was drafted by us in the 6th round ( we got him for free anyway), hes only 23 yrs old and has already made 3 or 4 sacks in 3 games, we would seriously be hyping this kid up….i for one was disappointed in the signing but the way he has played i will now change my mind and say im very impressed with him and i hope Rex decides to keep him on our team…im thinking 10-12 sacks this year from him :)

by AFCxxBEAST on Sep 2, 2011 3:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, this was literally a ZERO risk signing

And it looks like it might yet pay off. If we even get 3-5 sacks out of him all year, it will have paid off handsomely if you ask me considering his contract is non-guaranteed and for the minimum (I think).

by psuwxman on Sep 2, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

You've got to calm down on Maybin.

He hasn’t beaten a starter all preseason, and literrally his ONLY pass rush move is to cut outside and use his speed to get around the guy.

by JetKing55 on Sep 2, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Relentless

Maybin is quicker then anyone we have off the line and seems to have a non stop motor. If he can develop an inside move and not always take the scenic route to the qb, he’ll be something. I hope Rex decides to keep him.

by Crawdady on Sep 2, 2011 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

maybin!!

this kid is gonna be around for a while… im really excided that we got him cause all he needs is 15 more pounds and an inside move to be a serious problem and Rex is gonna make that happen.

by J.bleeds_green on Sep 2, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

What I saw in pre-week 4

Our backups and reserves get beaten badly, the whole offense was a joke, 8 first downs in 4 quarters….nuff said.

Our defensive backups and reserves gave up 25 first downs, 10-19 3rd down conversions….not good enough.

If we have any injury anywhere on this team our backups wont be able to do the job.

by Ottawa in 7 on Sep 2, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I say Eddie Jones will make the team.

He was pretty explosive actually, more so than Westerman or McIntyre. Ellis Lankster, however, is never going to make the team.

by JetKing55 on Sep 2, 2011 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Can't see it...

McIntyre was consistent and got more snaps the entire pre-season, Maybin has a skill neither has. It will be 1 of the 2, I’m assuming Bellore is making it also.

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by Judgegavel on Sep 2, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, how has Brodney Pool slid so far down the depth chart?

And given that, he didn’t even look that great playing with a bunch of scrubs considering he is a former starter himself.

by JetKing55 on Sep 2, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

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