Should the New York Jets Try to Land Osi Umenyiora?
Now that Nnamdigeddon is over, the Jets have to regroup and figure out how to put the finishing touches on their 2011 roster. One guy who might come up is a disgruntled big name from across town, Osi Umenyiora. Osi is coming off an 11.5 sack season. He is holding out because he is unhappy with his contract. Since the Jets lack a top pass rusher, their name might get floated as a destination.
There are two things that go into stopping an opposing passing attack, coverage and pass rush. They are related. If you cover well, your pass rush doesn't need to be as good because rushers have more time to get to the quarterback. That was the theory behind the Nnamdi chase. Inversely, if your pass rush is good, your coverage does not have to be as good because quarterbacks under pressure have to get rid of it quicker. Thus, your guys do not need to cover as well.
Osi would be much better than anybody the Jets currently have. Some have concerns, though. Let me give you a concern people have that I completely disagree with along with one of my own that nobody is mentioning.
Concern about Osi on the Jets I don't agree with:
People say the Jets run a 3-4 defense so it is not clear how Osi would translate to being a stand up pass rusher this late in his career. I am not sure he would have to, though. The Jets' fronts are not set in stone. They run a lot of sets with 4 man lines. Heck, they played with 4 linemen more than they did with 3 in 2009. Rex Ryan has frequently said he builds his defense around the strengths of his players. There would probably be times where Umenyiora would be a stand up pass rusher, but we would probably see the Jets shift to more of a 4-3 philosophy.
Concern about Osi I have:
He is very good. It is my perception, though, that he has never been the focal point of the Giants' pass rush. Does any team ever say, "We have to figure out a way to stop Osi?" Aside from one night when poor Winston Justice was overmatched in 2007, I am not sure. When you played the Giants in the past, Michael Strahan was always the guy you wanted to stop. Now I think it is Justin Tuck. Osi has always played with a lot of other talented pass rushers who drew attention, which made winning his matchups easier. How would he handle being the guy everybody set out to stop? This is was a big concern I had about Ray Edwards from Minnesota as well.
I cannot help but feel that last year was the time to make a move for Osi had the Jets wanted him. He was coming off a bad season, and his value was close to nothing. Now it would cost a decent pick and a big extension. I cannot help but think the Jets might be better served to split the money on two bargain pass rushers like the Matt Roth/Manny Lawson combo I talked about last night.
With that said, it would be something to consider. He is way better than anybody the team currently has. By drawing attention alone, he would make other guys better no matter how he handled being the focal point. I probably would part with a third round pick for him. In the first two rounds, you should be able to get high caliber starters. In the third round, you should get an ok starter. Getting a good starter for a third round pick would let the Jets come out on top. I am skeptical that would get it done, though.
What do you think?
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Just Wont Happen
I want Osi but cant see the Giants dealing him to the Jets. I am a little surprised we havent heard somuthing about the Jets going after Matt Roth
lol @ Nnamdigeddon
I agree with Nu, I don’t think the Giants are willing to trade him, let alone to us. Giants FO are extremely stubborn with holdouts and trade demands.
I do however believe that these free agency losses that are piling up means we need teeth in the pass rush more than ever.
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+1
Behind the bengals their FO is as bad as anyone.
by SLAUGHTERHOUSE on Jul 30, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
You'd be surprised if he keeps staying out of TC
they just might sell him off for a 3rd?
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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by Noble_Lance on Jul 30, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Good stuff
I’m on the Osi wagon. I would trade Greene for him and grab a RB in FA.
Good point about Osi not having been THE guy. But I think that on the Jets he would still be in much the same situation. For us THE guy that must be accounted for that would keep Osi from being doubled would be our blitzes. Or, conversely, the fact that he may be doubled would free up more opportunities to blitz. Either way, he would improve the rush dramatically.
However, I also like the Roth/Lawson combo. Or just Roth. He’s not a sexy name but look at his pressures last year in Cleveland. If he can bring some of that to us and stir it up with some Rex juice and it could be quite the potent potion.
by Crackback on Jul 30, 2011 11:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Jets are pretty good with unsexy names
Being that at least 4 of our departing free agents went from being in no demand when they joined us to top ten at their position.
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What? You'd trade Shonne Greene for him?
there aren’t that many good RBs left Addai, Bradshaw.
Sproles is out who is really left?
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Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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by Noble_Lance on Jul 30, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes. And there's a bunch of guys left.
Bradshaw, Benson, Brown, Bush. All are good fits. And all are arguably better than Greene.
Bradshaw is getting back with the Giants, Jacobs lowered his salary for him.
Benson has legal troubles, worse than Edwards.
Brown and Bush, yeah I can see that… but I doubt it happens.
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by Noble_Lance on Jul 30, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, someone's bitter.
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by Noble_Lance on Jul 30, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
would love Bush better at catching the ball than Greene, how about Norwood from ATL
by JETSFAN IN SC on Jul 30, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i wanna beat the eagles in february so fucking bad now
it would have been an amazing luxury, but not fully necessary, but what we lost in the process was not worth it
They are bringing back donald strickland. i really liked him as a slot guy. this looks like wilson is the number 2
by flixenuz on Jul 30, 2011 11:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
fact, if you believe ESPN
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about 3 sources reportes it on twitter as a one year deal
by flixenuz on Jul 30, 2011 11:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
or they could be movein lowery back to corner
by realsouthace on Jul 30, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Gut feeling is Lowery/Leonard will be the starting S duo, with Smith as the safetybacker, like Crackback once wrote about. Smith’s there to crush some skulls, Lowery for the interceptions, and Leonard to stop the run. Sounds look a good trio to me!
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Jul 30, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
that sounds good
leonhard, while not physically gifted, is intelligent + runs the defense beautifully—no complaints with him. i personally love dwight lowery. he’s been saving our butt for the past two years and i think he’s one of the most underappreciated guy on the team. that said, i’m totally biased because he’s a local boy :)
I just hope Rex use this spurning as motivation to get his guys over the hump.
If the Jets win the CHIP, then we get to throw this in Nnamdi’s face. Lets look at the bright side. I can spell his whole name without problem now.
Me too. A-S-S-H-O-L-E Nnamdi
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by Noble_Lance on Jul 30, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, F that guy already. he's not with the team so why are we still talking about it?
by DesertJetFan on Jul 30, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m prolly gonna issue a temporary ban on Nnamdi threads for a while.
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I wanted Osi last night, but now that I think about it...
When’s the last time bringing in an older veteran pass rusher worked out quite like how the team that got him worked out quite like how they wanted? Reggie White maybe? And would he be worth as much as Roth and Lawson together?
All I know is that I want Roth on the Jets. Lawson I’m not sold on, but I’ll take him too—Rex’ll fix him. Roth though, that guy is a player. He should be our #1 priority right now I seriously believe that.
by Exystence on Jul 30, 2011 11:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
How so?
Roth is an actual pass rusher. We should get him regardless. I’d say we only need Lawson if we cut Thomas.
Roth is more of a run stopper in my book...
he’s never had more than 4 sacks.
Lawson has nice speed, can cover great, and had like 6.5 sacks two years ago, perfect for passing downs.
Roth gets a ton of pressures though. Lawson doesn’t, despite having a much better front-3 in front of him (Justin Smith is a MONSTER, and Auraybo(sp?) Franklin is also very good). Plus Roth was like the only pass rushing threat on the Browns. And we know Rex likes him. I think he’d do great with us. Hell I want both him and Lawson on the team, they’d both probably do better with us!
I just don't see how this would work.
Tweets are coming out saying we don’t have the money to resign Pool or Braylon, so how could we possibly manage this?
Obviously we all wanted Asomugha, but...
…
I think a perfect solution to this FA period that has left us all a bit nervous is to give Shaun Ellis a 2 year contract. Then we need to see what the Giants want for Osi. I would think they would take a 2012 3rd rounder and a conditional 2013 (2nd round – 6th round based on performance). Ellis is a true Jet and last season he showed how he can still dominate in the right situations – and that was without a true pass rusher helping him out.
This way we’ll have Ellis for at least 1 more year, while we see what we have with our rookies and we can continue building our line next offseason.
While I would have preferred that we sign Braylon and Brodney, who here wouldn’t be happy with this situation and allowing the FO to start working on Harris’ long-term deal? Of course, this is also assuming that we get Cro’s situation worked out w/o killing the cap.
by Harris-burg Bully on Jul 31, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions

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