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State of the New York Jets Roster, Wide Receivers

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We continue our ratings of the Jets roster. For a refresher on the classification of the players, click here.

Santonio Holmes (1-A)

There are off field issues here, but these ratings deal primarily with work on the field. I think a lot of people do not appreciate how good Holmes really is. He is an extremely precise route runner, capable of creating a ton of space on underneath routes. He has the speed to stretch the field. He is an extremely intelligent receiver. Think of the AFC Championship Game. He caught a touchdown because he quickly recognized the Steelers had nobody deep when the man covering him fell down so he broke his route and went for the end zone. He is extremely clutch. Braylon Edwards gets a ton of credit for his blocking, but Holmes is also an effective blocker who gives effort. Nobody is better walking the tight rope on sideline catches. He drops too many passes, but he is still very productive. He became the best receiver on a team with a lot of talented pass catchers when he joined the Jets.

Braylon Edwards (2-B)

Edwards has all of the physical ability in the world. He has blazing speed and is an enormous target at receiver, which makes him an excellent deep threat. His short and intermediate route running is more suspect. Catching and running on slants are his primary contributions on non vertical routes. Edwards has been something of an underachiever in his career, but he also has had way below average quarterback play in all but two years of his career. He is a very good run blocker as well. He worked to eliminate drops from his game. There are off field issues like Holmes and some questions probably exist about how much of his 2010 production and focus eliminating drops might fall off when he is not playing for a new contract, but a team is in really good shape when he is the number two receiver.

Jerricho Cotchery (2-B)

Some are down on Cotchery because his production has fallen off the past two years, but I think it is important to put them into perspective. He was playing with an extremely inconsistent rookie quarterback in 2009 on a team that ran almost 6 out of every 10 plays. In 2011, he played hurt much of the year and saw his role decrease because of an influx of talent at his position. He never complained and came up huge in the Playoff game at New England. Cotchery does not blow you away with his size or speed, but he is as tough as they come, willing to fight for contested balls, and a very good route runner. He had too many drops in 2010, but he normally has good hands. He is still a more than adequate starter. A team is in really good shape when he is the number three receiver.

Brad Smith (3-E)

You might think this is too low. Think about this, though. Would you be happy with Brad Smith starting at wide receiver? He has not developed at all at his position. He is not a good route runner and has poor hands. Guys low on the depth chart are counted on to perform extra duties, like work on special teams. Smith might provide more of these extras than anybody in the game. He is an ace returner and very good on coverage units. He also provides the Jets a threat as a gadget guy on offense. Does this deserve a higher rating, though?

Jeremy Kerley (3-D)

The more I watch of him, the more optimistic I am. He looks like a quick, shifty guy who could find a home in the slot. He is dangerous in space. He also has experience as a return man and as a Wildcat quarterback, which makes him seem like a natural replacement for Smith.

Scotty McKnight (3-D)

McKnight faces an uphill climb to make the roster. He seems like a guy who gets more than his physical attributes would suggest. While only 5'7" 5'11" McKnight has very good hands and good vision as a route runner to find openings on the field. He also was very productive in college, registering at least one catch in every college game he played. To play in the NFL, a player needs a bare minimum of athletic ability. Can McKnight play up to his 4.5 timed speed? If so, his intangibles might help him stick as a slot guy.

Patrick Turner (4-F)

Some are high on him . I do not see it. I never understood why the Dolphins took him so high. I argued with a few Dolphins fans here about him. Miami gave up on him after one year, which is extraordinary for a third round pick. He's big, but that is not enough to be successful. A receiver needs to be able to create space in some way. Maybe that means having speed to get by defenders vertically. Maybe it means having lateral quickness. Maybe it means being able to outleap or outmuscle defenders. I have not seen any of this from Turner. I could be wrong. I hope I am. I just do not see any reason to get excited about him.

Logan Payne (4-F)

His path to the roster goes through Mike Westhoff. He probably cannot make it without being a special teams contributor.

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Braylon is a complete reciever

he does run good short and intermediate routes and i dont understand how people cant see that. in clevend he did it and when santonio was out for the first four games alot of the plays u saw braylon make were from intermiate routes. look at the steeler game where he had a hundred yards recieveing he ran one deep route and everything else was short or intermediate. in fact from the games i’ve watched (which is like all of them) when ever sanchez rolls out guess who running the underneath routes. and about the contract thing u can say the same thing about holmes as well when it comes to playing well cause its a contract year. N by the way Holmes is a terrible run blocker.

by Emmanuel Agu on Jul 14, 2011 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

My only true exception...

Is that you have Braylon at the same ‘tier’ as Cotchery. I could understand rating Santonio that highly, but I still think you’re either underrating Braylon or overrating Cotchery.

by Re1gn on Jul 14, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

This

and leaning towards Edwards being underrated.

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by Bro Namath on Jul 14, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand

how you can constantly put down Braylon in support of Holmes. They’re both great players and many have made a good argument of how Braylon is more attractive to the Jets than Holmes is.

There was no significant drop off when Edwards was playing without Holmes. I don’t see where you get that his short and intermediate routes are ‘suspect’, and like Emmanuel has said, you can make the same argument about each of these players being in their contract years.

It also sounds like you’re giving Santonio a pass for the off field issues over Edwards when Santonio’s incidents are just as serious.

by PowerBar on Jul 14, 2011 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

more serious...

If Santonio tests positive for Marijuana again, he’s suspended for a year. Braylon had a DUI but he doesn’t have a year-long suspension looming over him.

by bboyballer90 on Jul 14, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

many have made a good argument of how Braylon is more attractive to the Jets than Holmes is.

Perhaps, but I disagree with the argument.

I don’t see where you get that his short and intermediate routes are ‘suspect’

When I watch tape, that’s my observation.

you can make the same argument about each of these players being in their contract years.

I don’t agree. Holmes led the league in yards per reception, was a Super Bowl MVP and posted a 1,200 yard receiving season in his last three non contract years.

It also sounds like you’re giving Santonio a pass for the off field issues over Edwards when Santonio’s incidents are just as serious.

I’m not really sure where you’re getting that from this article. All that was said about Edwards’ off field issues are that they are like Holmes’. I don’t really see where that is giving Holmes a pass over Edwards.

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by John B on Jul 14, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edwards should be Tier 1-A

Holmes Tier 2-B…in all honesty, other teams BEST CBs cover Edwrads more often then they cover holmes, that in itself should tell you something.

by AFCxxBEAST on Jul 14, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

because he is lined up on that side

believe it or not not all CB are comfortable playing on both sides……revis and nnamdi are comfortable…..asante samuel would fall under the not comfortable category…. holmes is the better of the 2 receivers because he can do everything.

and about revis (AS MUCH AS I LOVE HIM) does not cover welker and he is definantly their best receiver so its a matter of where they are more than their abilities.

by SLAUGHTERHOUSE on Jul 14, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

The best cbs cover Holmes. Why? because he’s the best reciever. Ike Taylore covered Holmes in the AFC championship; he was their no. 1 cb.

by Jerrad p on Jul 14, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It also depends on what the defense wants to do. Darrelle Revis covered Davone Bess, and Antonio Cromartie covered Brandon Marshall against the Dolphins. The staff just felt it was a better matchup for the overall scheme. Does Revis covering Bess mean Bess is better than Marshall? Of course not.

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by John B on Jul 14, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

McKnight

measured in a 5’10" at his pro day.

by sanchezdiego on Jul 14, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Good catch

I had Welker on my mind, but even then Welker is 5’9"…geez I messed that one up.

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by John B on Jul 14, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you hate Edwards?

Every time you write something about our receivers you talk about Holmes as a top 10 complete receiver and Edwards as a “deep threat.” Every time you get at least half the board disagreeing with you. Stop spouting your opinions as fact please…at least acknowledge that the Jets fan base is pretty evenly split between those who believe one versus the other is the better “complete” receiver. I think most of us want to see both retained as possible, as they each can draw double teams and create opportunities for the other.

by wolverjets on Jul 14, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

1. If I “hated” Braylon, I wouldn’t post about all of the charitable work he does.

2. This site is based upon me “spouting” my opinion.

3. I have said many times I would like to see both retained.

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by John B on Jul 14, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, I know you don’t actually “hate” Braylon, and you do have the right to spout your opinion. I’m just saying it would be nice for you to acknowledge that the fan base is pretty evenly split on who we consider the better and/or more “complete” receiver. I find it frustrating that you continue to assert the same opinion without evidence (stats? video?) showing that Braylon is strictly a deep threat, and I’m clearly not the only one frustrated by this.

by wolverjets on Jul 14, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fan base is split. I never said it wasn’t. I’m not sure how things break down among our readers, but the vocal ones seem to favor Edwards over Holmes. I’m not denying this. My opinion is the opposite. I give you my opinion here even when it isn’t the popular one, like last year when I said they should give Revis the same money Nnamdi gets.

Again, the deep threat thing is my observation from watching things.

The league is kind of strict on what kind of video we can post here. I’ll see what I can do. I’m not sure it’s the kind of thing you can get with just one play. It’s kind of an observation that builds over time.

I think people get a bit too jumpy about this stuff though (and I’m not singling you out). You don’t see anybody get upset with me for saying Brad Smith is a bad route runner.

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by John B on Jul 14, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, that’s because everyone agrees Brad Smith is a lousy route runner. Personally, I would appreciate it if you just simply prefaced or followed your repeated “Braylon is a deep threat/Holmes is a complete receiver” statements with a brief disclaimer (e.g., “Though there’s some disagreement among fans, I believe…”). I think others would appreciate this as well.
I don’t know what kind of rules the NFL has, but plenty of college football and NBA blogs have detailed breakdowns involving stats and/or multiple videos to support their arguments. Based on my observations (and I’ve followed Braylon since his college days) he’s every bit a complete #1 receiver as Holmes, and even though I’m biased as a UM alum there are plenty of others who feel the same way based on their observations.

by wolverjets on Jul 14, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that’s a fair request. I’ll do my best to do that, bud, and know that that disclaimer is implied when I do not. As always, these are only my opinions. I am certainly not an all knowing authority.

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by John B on Jul 14, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, John! To me the disclaimer makes a world of a difference, because when I read objectively worded statements like that I think to myself: “Am I crazy? How come I don’t see that?” and then I go to the comments and see that I’m not the only one having that reaction. This leads to some validation but also some frustration with you for not acknowledging that so many of your readers may have a valid opinion.
I certainly do appreciate the work you put into this. This is the only Jets blog I check daily, and that’s my only quibble.

by wolverjets on Jul 14, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

but also some frustration with you for not acknowledging that so many of your readers may have a valid opinion.

As I said, just know that I do ackowledge it.

Even most of the people who think Brian Scottenheimer is a brilliant OC have my respect (and that’s a much tougher position for me to come around to than Braylon’s short route running).

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by John B on Jul 14, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for being open to the feedback, John! And by the way, I’m in your camp when it comes to Schotty’s brilliance (or lack there-of).

by wolverjets on Jul 14, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

John

you clearly think Santonio is better (I agree) but how much more do you value him? I mean clearly at the same contract you take Holmes, but I assume if Braylon would sign for the vet’s minimum and Santonio wanted 10 years 200 mil, you would go with Braylon. At what cutoff do you say "He’s not worth that much

by revans on Jul 14, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s tough to put an exact number on for similar reasons to what I was talking about with Revis last year. I mean I could say it’s something like $4 million per year. What if the difference is $5 million? That extra million is really chump change in the NFL. I just think unless it’s something where it is totally drastic, I want the better player (which Holmes is IMO…although I understand others don’t agree :-) )

What you mention is part of why I wouldn’t be crazy about breaking the bank for Edwards. I think he’s better than the veterans available, but at a certain price a veteran big name might be a better value.

I also understand why there tends to be a Holmes vs. Edwards discussion since you generally only want to lock up so much money in one position. I think the choice might very well be Braylon against Cromartie. I think the team would choose Cromartie. I’d probably rather see Edwards come back.

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by John B on Jul 14, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the pro-Edwards people aren’t for breaking the bank for him, part of the reason I’m pro-Edwards is because I don’t think you’ll have to break the bank to get him. I’m not so confident about Santonio, however.

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by Bro Namath on Jul 14, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry John B

i couldnt even finish reading this article after u put cotchery and edwards in the same tier…..i can understand why you think holmes is better than edwards (even though i disagree) but saying edwards is as good ass cotchery is bullshit

by MrMartain on Jul 14, 2011 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

So what would you rate them?

It’s easy to say something is bullshit and far harder to use the rating system consistently and fairly. Do you see Edwards as an 1-A or is Cotchery a 3-E? What about Brad Smith? That would make him and Cotchery the same? See what I’m getting at?

by OldJetsFanatic on Jul 14, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't call it bullshit as it's opinion...

But I’d rate Braylon a 1-A. Holmes may be better(opinion, and not mine) but I wouldn’t say he’s ‘in a different class’. Braylon was our #1 last season, and I was happy to have him(given the criteria for ratings).

I know these Santonio vs Braylon posts always get out of hand so I’ll keep it simple: Holmes may be better than Braylon, that’s debatable… but I wouldn’t say they’re in a different ‘class’ or ‘league’.

by Re1gn on Jul 14, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear you

I think it could go either way. Truth is, I have a far harder time classifying Brad Smith as a 3-E which I think is too high for him. He’s done very little as a receiver for the Jets.

by OldJetsFanatic on Jul 14, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anything John’s just giving Brad credit for the things he does outside of the position like special teams. Brads talents aren’t even at his position, but he’s a receiver on the depth chart so that’s what we have to rank him as.

I think his accomplishments, even if not acting in the capacity of his roster title, earn him a spot at 3-E.

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by Bro Namath on Jul 14, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

but saying edwards is as good ass cotchery is bullshit

I didn’t, though. In fact, I said Edwards was better. I mentioned that he is the second best receiver on the team, and Cotchery is the third best.

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by John B on Jul 14, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

but u put braylon and cotchery in the same class when i believe that braylon has a much higher cieling and cotchery probobly has allready hit his braylon is arguably the est reciever on the team with holmes so wouldnt it make sense that the two players are in the same tier

by MrMartain on Jul 14, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The market will dictate

The Jets have one of the best front offices in the league, but I just can’t see the Jets able to hold on to both Holmes and Edwards, there won’t be a choice, the market will decide. Brad Smith has made so many big plays for this franchise, but he can’t run a route to save his life, I think his hands are okay, but he can’t get open, the WR experiment failed, I partially blame Schotty for overall offensive design, the guy is a playmaker. Smith is better off somewhere else with an OC that can properly utilize his talents.
Cotchery , healthy again, will catch 60 balls, many of them clutch catches for first downs,
So you will have Holmes or Edwards teamed with Cotchery on the outside, Keller and LT will be your true 3rd receiver. So now we are down to our 4th receiver in the progression. The point is the Jet receivers are not all that bad, I’m not sure that Sanchez can get to the fourth guy in the progression. That fourth guy could be TE Cumberland,just a bigger and better Dustin Keller. Or this journeyman WR Logan Payne who is his 5th team in four years. Logan reportedly looked good at “Jet West” and you have to some talent to survive 4 years in this league. Is he a JAG, yes , but with a littlle expierance, thats not bad for a 5th receiver, Payne may be with the right team at the right time

by JetOrange on Jul 14, 2011 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Braylon is a 1-A.

Its not even debatable. Opinions can vary over who thinks who’s better. But Braylon is clearly a class above anybody that would be ranked in the 2nd tier.

Now if the question is who must go if there aint enough dough…? Then the answer is clearly Cro.

Both Holmes and Braylon bring much more to the table than Cro does. And I want my young QB surrounded by nothing but studs out wide.

by Crackback on Jul 14, 2011 11:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

While I completely agree with you...

The thought of Wilson as our #2 CB kinda scares me. I hope I wrong, but without training camps or even a preseason at this point it’s too hard for me to tell how well he’s progressing.

by Re1gn on Jul 15, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson scares me no less than Cro

Cromartie is the most overrated cornerback I have ever seen.

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by Bro Namath on Jul 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

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