Two Players on Other Teams Who May Have Become Expendable After 2011 NFL Draft?
Some other teams undoubtedly took players in the NFL Draft to replace guys currently on their rosters. I have two who come to mind who might be on the Jets radar.
Matthias Kiwanuka: Kiwanuka has experience lining up standing up at linebacker and with his hand on the ground inside at tackle and outside at end. He has the kind of versatility Rex Ryan would love. He used Adalius Thomas in a similar way in Baltimore to great effect. Kiwanuka will be a free agent. The Giants have Justin Tuck and Osi Umenyiora established on the defensive line and picked Jason Pierre-Paul, Linval Joseph, and Marvin Austin early in the past two Drafts. They might want to spend their money elsewhere. Kiwanuka might be the pass rusher the Jets need. He wouldn't even have to move his home.
David Akers: After the Eagles took Alex Henery, the reliable Akers is probably on his way out in Philly. He has a career field goal percentage of 81.9. He was the NFL's All Decade kicker in the 2000's and has been the NFC's Pro Bowl kicker five times. He had a rough Playoff game against Green Bay this year, but he had around an 85% career Playoff field goal percentage before that. He had 23 touchbacks last year, a career high.
What newly expendable guys interest you?
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I agree to both guys...
At the right price of course. Kiwi would be a good addition if he can stay healthy. Add some depth on the line.
RE-SIGN THE HUMP!!!
The JETS/NETS are coming!
it will cost us...
some money to get him… personally i think Pace and Scott should reorganize his contract for next year so we can afford to upgrade our d a little more and have a little more money to resign our wides
Would love it if we could nab Kiwi.
I wonder what it would cost to get him here. And I know its crazy but I wouldn’t mind Gholston if we could sign him super-cheap.
by Crackback on May 2, 2011 4:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
WOAH!!
you okay crack, maybe you hurt yourself,you realy want gholston back?
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengal
i cant spell a nosebleed
he's gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OLIE PEREZ IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know, I know. But I think if maybe we can reset the table and start over from scratch, maybe he can turn the corner.
I think he was mishandled initially by Mangini, and he could never get himself on track. I think now that his expectations have been lowered to nothing, he can restart and build on successes.
I’d like to see him focus on being a pure pass rusher. Forget about being a 3-down player for now. Refocus on being a 34 OLB, and developing his speed rush.
IMO he focused way too much on his power and it adversely effected him. As strong as he is, he can’t flat out bull rush NFL tackles when they’re sitting on it. He’s got a sick burst (1.53 split I think) and he should use it. He never has to this point.
I really believe that if Vernon used his speed, and made the speed rush his primary move, that he could be much moreeffective. Even dominant. The speed will allow his power to come into play.
by Crackback on May 2, 2011 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know, I know. But I think if maybe we can reset the table and start over from scratch, maybe he can turn the corner.
I think he was mishandled initially by Mangini, and he could never get himself on track. I think now that his expectations have been lowered to nothing, he can restart and build on successes.
I’d like to see him focus on being a pure pass rusher. Forget about being a 3-down player for now. Refocus on being a 34 OLB, and developing his speed rush.
IMO he focused way too much on his power and it adversely effected him. As strong as he is, he can’t flat out bull rush NFL tackles when they’re sitting on it. He’s got a sick burst (1.53 split I think) and he should use it. He never has to this point.
I really believe that if Vernon used his speed, and made the speed rush his primary move, that he could be much moreeffective. Even dominant. The speed will allow his power to come into play.
by Crackback on May 2, 2011 5:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And
Keep in mind that Gholston is such a great guy that he recommended to Rex that he wanted a pay cut so that the Jets could have more money for other players. I’m sure Vernon would accept a super-cheap deal. No other team is going to pick him up to be anything else but an experiment..
Muhammad Wilkerson + Kenrick Ellis=
-Greatest two picks of all time
-Sleepless nights for Tommy Bieber
you know crack you maybe right, you make a very good point and, I just checked that split it was 1.53 their a couple of other players tied like Chris Long and then you have Cliff Avrill at 1.50 that are in the same size category. It sure is a shame Shawn Crable didn’t work out he had pretty good numbers himself
by JETSFAN IN SC on May 3, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont want gholston back
and if youre gholston why would you want to come back .start fresh somewhere else
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
not after rex ripped him another asshole
by SLAUGHTERHOUSE on May 2, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I doubt it would happen, because of what he said in his book. But idk there is something that tells me, he still has potential.
hopefully this will be pushed out of you in a year or 2
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengal
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he's gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OLIE PEREZ IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL
That’s all you were saying throughout the draft. OLB and Safety, over and over again.
by OldJetsFanatic on May 2, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
if cleveland's new fullback marecic works out
then vickers could be a great pickup especially if connor doesn’t work out
if its for you it won't pass you
I wouldn't be so confident in Connor
I love him too, but his Termination ways (his viciousness) will cause him to get injured in my opinion. Kind of like Troy Polamalu. I remember Connor gave himself a neck stinger in Week 4 against the Bills because he hit the ’backer in the hole so hard.
Muhammad Wilkerson + Kenrick Ellis=
-Greatest two picks of all time
-Sleepless nights for Tommy Bieber
Andy Reid really screwed Akers over
The week leading up to the the playoff game, Akers’ 6 year-old daughter was diagnosed with ovarian cancer, and had her ovary surgically removed the week after the game.
He had a legitimate reason to lose his focus on the game. But that didn’t stop Andy Reid from blaming Akers for the loss – despite the fact that Akers’ kicking was one of the main reasons Philly even got to the post-season last year.
I would grab Akers in a minute over Folk.
Ray Edwards
The Vikings may have already found his replacement in Christian Ballard
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
What the Vikings didn’t draft is a WR to replace Rice, so he might be their biggest focus for free agency. This leads me to believe that Ray Edwards will be open for business.
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
I like many guys in front of Edwards
Edwards is going to take a lot of worthless money. Remember, teams would double team Jared Allen, making everything so much easier for Edwards. He almost always had only one man to beat because even the blocking RB’s would be locked in on Allen.
Muhammad Wilkerson + Kenrick Ellis=
-Greatest two picks of all time
-Sleepless nights for Tommy Bieber
in a 3-4 sceme, the olber isn't supposed to be going up against a double team.
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
Well there are very few pure 3-4 Rush LBers available in free agency, so if we get someone one good...
the chances are he would be from a 4-3.
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
AKERS IS A NEED
after having 23 touchbacks last season you have to assume there should be more to come with the new kick off rules…..also compare that to nick folks 7 touch backs last year
not only should akers help our fieldd goal unit but he would also dramatically help our kick off unit noticing how much stronger his leg truely is
also folk has real confidence issues and and hip issues while akers hasnt only missed 4 games in the last 11 seasons!!!
being a defensive team who wants to win close ones by ground game i think havingakers would be extremely beneficial especially since it looks as if we would have another strength on our kickoff team consistant pinning the other team within their 20
I think both would be great additions that could put us over the top
but cost is a serious question.
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I dont think Mathais is expendable the giants arent going to liet him walk for free if he is a RFA they tendered him for a 2nd. But the other Giant is now expandable after their draft and that is 6’4’’ 305 Barry Cofield and the giants should be more incline to let him go after a 2nd rount DT in both of the last 2 years and the massive contract they got on Canty if he is willing to make a move to 3-4 DE that is a great D-lineup going into next year plus get Shaun Ellis back and use him rotationly and his #s will go up being he wint be on the feild the whole game
the giants tendered every single one of their RFA's a 2nd
that doesnt say anything what they thought about kiwi
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
I like Akers
The only problem is that he is getting up there in age and may only be a top flight guy for 1-2 seasons still. But I wouldn’t mind bringing him in for the next two years.
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Kiwanuka
Would love Kiwanuka and i would also not mind taking a stab at bringing int Kamerion wimbley (SC?)
Either one would be great
Probably easier to get Akers though given what everyone has already said. Love Kiwi though, would be great to see him in Green and White
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by blueandorange4life on May 2, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
OCHOCINCO
Let’s face it, at this point he’s probably banked enough money that he, like Palmer, doesn’t wanna play for the money – he wants a RING.
He’s still a dynamic player and a good replacement if we lose Edwards/Holmes
I don't think he's a good replacement for either...
I’d take him if we actually lost one, but I still think we need to resign both as priority 1a and 1b (Holmes first).
I would switch those
Edwards first and Holmes second. But I would take either of them over ochocinco.
by OldJetsFanatic on May 2, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I do have a question for all
what do you guys think about aqib talib….. he could be had for less than it took to get holmes he probably will be suspended several games but he is on his way to being a shutdown corner i say we take a flier…. we have the locker room run by mad backer and although it isnt the ravens locker room braylon and holmes haven’t been problems for the most part and i thin they could guide talib in the right direction.
As a Giants fan
I hate the idea of Kiwi going to your team, but I also think it’s brilliant.
He’d be perfect for the Jets as an edge rusher
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
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edwards and akers
I was worried about braylon’s knock on him that he had stone hands, then last year he was awesome. He made some awesome catches, helps the running game, and the dude is strong. If we can get a pass rusher and maybe like a good safety for holmes I’d do it. Use the money in FA to get our team better. I’d rather have braylon, jco, keller, and a good slot guy, we’d have a real good receiving group. Keller should be a top 3 recieving TE and almost disappeared in some games. I somewhat agree that maybe we had too many targets too keep happy last year.
I like singing cro and get wilson going. We get a better pass rush the secondary will be that much better.
Maybe kiwi is the answer for our edge rusher but he’s a risk. With what I expect out of our DL this year and give us a real good rusher I say wow. But you never know wilks and ellis might already make the LB’s we got real good. as rushers.
On akers I always felt for many years that he was one of the best kickers in the nfl every year. Geting old but it doesn’t matter, kickers last long and he’s is usually clutch, big time.
what's a singing cro
I meant signing cro.
Just a thought but if cro’s strength is being physical up front then why dont we use him against the slot and have wilson go opposite revis. If cro can manhandle the slot within 5 yrds it might disrupt the play and give us enough time to get the qb. Didn’t we do that in a game or 2? Or was I dreaming.
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I thought it was in zone coverage and his steength was man to man

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