Mike Tannenbaum Draft Strategies #2: Different Definition of Need
When most of us think of Draft needs, we think of positions where the Jets have a below average starter. Throughout his career as general manager, Mike Tannenbaum has displayed that he thinks differently. Tannnbaum has been willing to pick guys as positions where his team had an adequate starter in place. He seems to view any position where the team does not have an elite player as a need.
His picks display this clearly. He took David Harris in 2007 despite having Eric Barton and Jonathan Vilma starting at inside linebacker. He took Dustin Keller in 2008 despite having Chris Baker and Bubba Franks at tight end. He took Shonn Greene in 2009 despite having Thomas Jones and Leon Washington at running back. In all of these places, the Jets had adequate starters in place. Vilma was a difference maker but either in the wrong scheme or never given a chance to succeed in the scheme depending on whom you ask.
You could also expand this to Tannenbaum's first Draft in 2006 and look at less successful moves. He took Anthony Schlegel in the third round despite having Vilma and Barton. He took Eric Smith despite having Kerry Rhodes and Erik Coleman.
I can see both sides of his argument on his first Draft strategy of targeting specific players instead of stockpiling picks. I think he is totally right in his definition of Draft needs, though. A team either has an impact player at a position or it does not. If it does not, that position will be a need very soon. When a star declines, he usually declines to good player before average over the course of a few years. When an average player declines, he goes straight to bad.
Teams that define need solely as positions of weakness and pick accordingly make mistakes. That is how Arizona got Levi Brown instead of Adrian Peterson. They had a need at tackle and a seemingly adequate back in Edgerrin James. Tannaenbaum has found plenty of impact players at positions of desperate need like D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, and Darrelle Revis. He does not keep his definition limited, though.
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Great observation.
And its a strategy/philosophy I completely agree with. Aside from the QB position (bc of financial commitment and length of development), just about every position is free game if you’re pretty sure you can get an impact player.
Relentlessly and religiously target players that will make an impact on your team. Global player rankings aren’t very useful. Find players that have a skillset that you can add to your team which will enhance your overall product. If you have a good player at a certain posituon, but you can draft a kid that’s just a better fit, then draft the kid and trade the good vet away for picks or to upgrade another position.
You’re gonna miss some along the way, but if you stay disciplined in focusing on finding impact players for your scheme and properly utilizing players with unique skillsets, then you’re probably going to be more successful than not over the long haul.
by Crackback on Apr 17, 2011 11:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
but you can't say he doesn't draft for need
this year there is a glaring whole in our team called the OLB position. barton and vilma were better then present day pace and thomas, so if we took one there, why not one now. there has got to be a OLB that can enhance our “product” right now. i could realy see this team taking really anything but a rb, cb and a qb in this draft. i think OLB or DE is the biggest need though.
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengal
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Its hard to say there’s a glaring hole on a defense ranked 3rd last year and 1st the year prior with basically the same OLBs. When you think about it, we take our OLBs off the field a lot (if not most) passing downs anyway. We seem to always go DB heavy with nickel/dime packages and cluster blitz. OLBs seem to be more useful against the run under Rex. Maybe we just don’t value the position. Rex hasn’t drafted one yet in any round, I don’t think. Definitely didn’t use a high pick for one.
Also would definitely take a RB in this draft; corner too.
by Crackback on Apr 17, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed. Glaring hole, no. Need to improve, sure.
On the current roster glaring holes include DE, OT, WR and FS.
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
we have people at OT
and they played pretty well, they are just getting old. we don’t know who we are going to keep at wr, but we’ll prob get one of the 2 (maybe both) and get a FA wr or one in the 3rd or 4th. FS is a hole but any position that includes calvin pace and bryan thomas is one of the positions that need inprovement. there are a lot of OLB’s, it could be one slips to us hence “the best player available”. there is no chance a FS has the best player available unless you think raheem moore is better then some late first round OLB’s. the only positions that have the chance to have the best player available are DE, OT and OLB. I think we need a guy on the D side badly but if a OT falls to us (certain guys we’ve mentioned on this site) i’d be fine with that.
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengal
i cant spell a nosebleed
he's gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OLIE PEREZ IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he hasn't drafted one
but on baltimore he used his pretty well. don’t tell me terrel suggs and A. Thomas weren’t important parts of rex’s D.
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengal
i cant spell a nosebleed
he's gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OLIE PEREZ IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i know we were ranked 3rd on D this year
but watching the games on 3rd and long, watching the qb get comfortable and throw for a first down, i knew we need a guy to get there, and pace and thomas couldn’t get there quick enough. maybe it was the D-line’s fault for not getting pressure, i don’t know. i know we just got to get someone who is a threat to get to the qb. no one is scared of calvin pace or bryan thomas. i think we’re close to being as feared as the raiders and steeler D’s are. we need a sackmaster all the great D’s have one.
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengal
i cant spell a nosebleed
he's gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OLIE PEREZ IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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