New York Jets to Let Antonio Cromartie Leave?
As much as I dislike using Florio as a source, he has an interesting story about the potential philosophy of the Jets tonight.
Appearing on NFL Network’s Total Access program Wednesday night, Mike Lombardi cited multiple sources to report that the Jets are likely to let free agent cornerback Antonio Cromartie walk this offseason.
I would be fine with this. Cro had a good season, but even then he is an underachiever. He has more God given ability than Darrelle Revis. He should consistently dominate. The things he does well are too limited considering his athleticism. Plus corners make crazy amounts on the open market.
The Jets rode Darrelle Revis in 2009 and had the best pass defense in the league with Lito Sheppard starting across from him. Cromartie allowed them to mix and match more, but the team can simply lean more on Darrelle to cover the elite exclusively again if Cro walks.
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I don't think anyone should really mind
It means the jets are really focusing on getting the WR situation straitened out.
I mean you guys spent a first rounder on a cornerback last year
Signing Cromartie long term just doesn’t make sense if you guys think have something in Kyle Wilson.
You arent going to be able to bring back everyone, i think this makes the most sense.
i gotta feeling we're going for nnamdi.
And if we don’t get him we’re probably going with a corner again with the first pick. It makes sense financially. If we get 2 first rounders in the fold and develop them into solid, reliable players, we won’t be beholden to revis when his contract is up again. And if we get lucky and have lightning strike twice and find another revis, then all the better.
by Crackback on Feb 16, 2011 8:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Depends on the Corner available
You don’t just want to take a corner in round 1 just to take him. The only CB I see going in the late 1st is Arron Williams from Texas.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
What about the kid from miami (can’t think of his name)? He seems like a good fit.
Plus, the fact that we don’t have a 2nd rounder puts us in a difficult spot. We might not like using a late first rounder on a corner, but we also might not want to wait until the late 3rd where pickings will be slim.
by Crackback on Feb 16, 2011 8:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
True, he could go late 1, but that would be a bit of a reach IMO. My mock has 3 CB’s in round 1 so far.
I wouldn’t be too suprised if we trade down.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
That’s the thing, imo. Not having a 2nd kinda forces us to reach. I hope we do trade down. If we can get a high 2nd and another pick we’d be sittin pretty.
by Crackback on Feb 16, 2011 9:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I feel like picks 25-40ish are similiar talent levels
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
brandon harris
if he falls to us a 30 he would be a nice pickup . wr at 30 is still nit off the cards either
I think it was Evan Silva who posted it on PFT, but if it's something about the Jets I just assume it's Florio
I don’t mind at all. I am actually surprised by this move. It goes against my theory that the Jets don’t like letting someone go after 1 year if they use a high pick on them.
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
In addition to WIlson, I think the team still thinks highly of Coleman and Cole being able to do more, as well as Lowery.
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They really like Marquice Cole.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
i wonder if cro would sign for less than expected with all the uncertainty with the cba.
With his situation, he just might be a canidate for a 2-3 year deal that’s not expensive if we can guaranty a sizeable portion of it.
If we could lock him in at 2 yrs 12M and guaranty like 9M, he just might go for that. It gives him stability for the next 2 yrs and one more shot at a big contract. He’s probably the best example of a player that can’t afford to go a year without a paycheck. That gives us some leverage with him. 6m per makes sense for us, imo. And if wilson comes along, we can cut cro without it really hurting, bc wilson’s positive play would offset the negative of cutting cro.
by Crackback on Feb 16, 2011 8:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Or we could trade him and recoup some of the value for the 2nd round pick we spent to get him.
by Crackback on Feb 16, 2011 8:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Some guys who can replace Cro
Chris Carr Ravens
Ike Taylor Steelers
Josh Wilson Ravens
Richard Marshall Panthers
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
I don’t expect a FA move. They will either go with the current roster or draft. Thats my gut.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Ehh, I am not so confident in that move
I don’t think Wilson has shown enough to take the reins for 2nd CB yet, and the other guys are just solid depth. 3 1st round CBs will get very expensive, especially if they turn out to be good.
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
dont really care for any of those players except maybe taylor
either go for nnamdi (or johnathan joseph) or just keep it at josh wilson and use the saved money for front 7 help
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Nnamdi or Joseph aren't realistic FA moves. We would have to cut a lot of people, and also won't be...
able to resign a lot of guys
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Jenkins and woody is 7m right there. And we’ve proven we’re just fine without them. Cut tomlinson and that’s another 2m. Let cro walk, that’s another couple mil. Restructure scott and sanchez… Poof. Here’s nnamdi.
Nnamdi can easily happen if we can get him for around 12m.
by Crackback on Feb 16, 2011 8:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i’m perfectly fine w/ cutting a lot of guys.
woody (savings of $3.24 mil)
thomas ($3.7 mil)
hartsock ($1.65 mil)
brunell ($1.3 mil)
taylor ($2.275 mil)
jenkins ($4.7 mil)
LT ($2.425 mil)
also, if need be i wouldnt resign brad smith and ellis if it meant getting nnamdi. nnamdi would prob only get $4 mil more than cro (say $13 mil to $9 mil) and that’s not crazy
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Don't forget Gholston for a whopping savings of .5 million
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
I want to keep woody and Jenks. Thomas is still useful too.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think Woody comes back, or if he does it will be for a lot less then he is getting now
I think they are going to let Hunter and king ugly fight it out for ROT
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
jenks i’d cut and resign at veteran minimum. he’s simply not worth $4.6 mil. we got ducasse and hunter so i think we’d be ok at RT w/o woody. i hate thomas. he’s absolutely awful
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
When jenks is healthy…hes worth a LOT more than 4 mil.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
When is he healthy?
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Well thats the issue. But he messed up both of his knees, it’s not like he keeps aggravating the same thing.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
and before that it was his shoulder… he is way too injury prone
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Well when you are playing NT at 31 years old (or 32)? youre going get injuries. I still think he’s worth the financial risk. He is as good as there is when 100%.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, but I think he gets restructured
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Possible, but I would consider it unlikely. I think some team out there is willing to pony up 4 mil for him. Its not like hes making 8 mil.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he wants to play for anyone else but the Jets. I think it’s because of Rex that he is coming back
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
true
but there’s no way you can pay him that much on the hope that he’s healthy. simply way too risky. i love jenks as much as the next guy and thats why i want him baxk but you cant in good faith pay him right now $4.6 mil
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Well for his potential production this year, you pay the 4.7 mil. if he gets hurt again he might retire anyway.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
i think this is a good move if it means that we’re gonna go after asomugha. this could otherwise just mean that the team feels that kyle wilson is ready. i’m not overly surprised about this. i felt that the front office wasnt very pleased w/ cro’s mentally retarded yapping. although rex ryan always talks, he mainly does it pumping up his own team not denigrating the other side. i think as soon as he said the stuff against brady he signed his pink slip
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Nah. I don’t think they cared about it at all. In fact, I think rex kinda liked it. I think if they do go another direction it’ll be bc cro isn’t coachable. All year they pounded on him to be more aggressive at scrimmage, but he didn’t listen. All year he got burnt on routine routes. If ur gonna get inconsistency with flashes of talent, u might as well go with the youngin. Why spend 9m+ for that? At least wilson is coachable.
by Crackback on Feb 16, 2011 8:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
don't get your hopes up just yet...
TheJetsStream: Sources tell me that no decision has been made on A. Cromartie’s future with #Jets. Still a priority for #NYJ once free agency starts. #nfl
That’s interesting. Because Lombardi has wiffed on some stories before. I cant remember which one, but I remember him making a blunder a couple of months ago.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
If you ask @incarceratedbob, he’ll tell you he had the story 3 weeks ago…so I don’t know what to believe anymore
He blocked me. I dont trust that guy for anything anyway.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
I Want Cro Back.
I don’t think he reached his potential yet with the Jets. If they could sign him to a 2 yr deal perhaps with options for a 3rd or 4th. Coach him up. Let him return some kicks. I think he’d pay dividends on that 2nd round pick.
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
For someone so physically talented he really isn't a Rex kind of guy on the field. Not physical enough at all.
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
He was playing for a new contract and probably was nervous to get hurt. A lot of mouths depend on him. With a contract in place, perhaps he’ll stick it in there a bit more next year.
So Let It Be Written, So Let it Be Done.
Depends what he could be had for. If its 9+, I say let him walk. He’s not worth it. Gives up too many plays.
by Crackback on Feb 16, 2011 9:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Depends what he could be had for. If its 9+, I say let him walk. He’s not worth it. Gives up too many plays.
by Crackback on Feb 16, 2011 9:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lol. Gimme a break I’m on my mobile. Sometimes it doesn’t connect and u think it doesn’t go thru.
by Crackback on Feb 16, 2011 9:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
PFT also brings up the pt
in another post that b/c the raiders just signed seymour to be highest played defensive player in the league that it’ll be a heck of a lot harder for them to resign nnamdi
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
If the coaches are comfortable with him walking then good
I thought he was pretty awful at times and I dispute the notion that he has more ability than Revis, God given or otherwise.
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Revis does much more with what he has, but Cromartie’s a better pure athlete.
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When is he going to use that to his advantage
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Well Cromartie runs faster and jumps higher, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he is a better gifted CB. Guys like Cro are usually made into WRs.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
The guy is a soft cupcake… maybe some jail time will make him a better CB
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Jail time…for what?
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
haha, I don't know... just an idea to toughen him up
Maybe he smashes Hasselbeck’s face in
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Well Cromartie runs faster and jumps higher, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he is a better gifted CB.
Yes, it does. It means he has more natural ability, which was my point.
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
I would rather have the guy who was better at football
But that’s just me.
Scott was asked if this win meant that Rex Ryan could now be looked at as an equal of Bill Belichick's as a coach.
"Why not better? Belichick is one Mo Lewis hit from being fired," Scott said. "[Brady] don't come in we might be talking about him on the unemployment line."
True, speed and jumping ability are important, but Revis is much stronger and uses his hips better. Cro just has part of the forumla to being a great CB, Revis has the whole package.
You’re right in that Cro could improve on strength and technique and get better.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
He could, but I don't think he will.
If he gets his pay day, I think he loses any motivation he might have had last year and didn’t make good on.
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. I don’t think its just about motivation; it is a little unfair to compare him to Revis. It’s not like he’s a BAD corner. You don’t start for an NFL team without working hard.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
All in all, I think we can do better.
I really like Richard Marshall
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
No, he has more natural athleticism, not ability,
they’re too different things.
Scott was asked if this win meant that Rex Ryan could now be looked at as an equal of Bill Belichick's as a coach.
"Why not better? Belichick is one Mo Lewis hit from being fired," Scott said. "[Brady] don't come in we might be talking about him on the unemployment line."
+1
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
He may be a better pure athelete
but that does not mean he has better natural ability to play CB. It looks like Cro’s height and hips make him ill-suited to play CB. Too tall and difficult for him to get out of break, play shift receivers. I don’t think those failings are anything but physical.
Either way-Cro is way overrated. He has one strong skill but otherwise grades mostly average to slightly below average. Let him walk…
This is pretty much my line of thought
John has a valid point though.
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He hasn't shown anything to suggest he can do that
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
He had a good preseason. Sometimes, as an athelete, you need to have the mindset of a starter to play well. He was impressive in camp when he thought he was going to start.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
He was a starter when Revis when went out
I would be more than happy with him if he just learns how to turn around. Camp and the games are different
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by GangGreenMag on Feb 16, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
How often was he lined up outside in his first year?
Definitely different for him to play outside, which he has more experience in, than Nickel.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
Good point. That has a lot to do with it.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t get why the Jets tried so hard for him in nickel…
by Goalvalchuk on Feb 16, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Where else are you going to put him?
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by Ryan Alfieri on Feb 16, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
my take is we have 3 options
option 1: this story is crap and cro will be back
option2 : we will let cro walk and draft brandon harris in the 1st
option 3 : we will let cro, thomas and jenkins walk and sign nnamdi and olb and nt with our 1st and 3rd picks
i prefere option 3 although maybe we might sign champ instead of nnamdi and let wilson take over next year
amen to option #3
although if we’re gonna shell out the big dough for a cb it may as well be for nnamdi and not champ (who btw put his house in denver on sale today. hmmm…..)
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
i cant beleve none of you looked at this situation
cro walks, we go stricktly pass rush and beast up our dl and the corners that we have now should be good…. cuz if you noticed they were getting there asses beat when we couldnt get to the qb, i dont care who you are if you give any qb that much time any recever can get open, and if we can get a great pass rush wilson, cole , coleman and lowery will all come into there own. but if we do end up keeping cro i think we should use him as a situational recever kinda like a young randy moss cuz hes got the hands the speed and the hight and doing this would bring his stock back up and we could get good value for him or we might have found gold and our corners now would still have the opertunity to shine
If we do bring him back I would love to see him get some receiver looks. Theres no denying that he’s electric with the ball in his hands.
AND use him like Brad Smith
as the primary KR and on option plays! Who knows! He’d probably be a better receiver to boot!
agreed dabu7
nnamdi would be brilliant in a jets uniform but champ is a viable option also . rex wants the best at cb and with revis we have that . but adding nnamdi elaveates this team to another level, helping every other area of the defence .
Champ's only gonna be slightly cheaper than Nnamdi
Not really worth the drop-off in talent either
Most of you are talking about his talents but what im intrested in is why did the JETS give up 2nd rounder for a player that they dont want to re-signe. IS the JETS FO that stupid that they would trade for a player that thay did not know how good he was? IMO if he is not good enogh to be signed he is not worth a 2nd rounder.
CRO cost a 2nd RD
I can’t see him leaving at that price. He still is a top 10 CB talent and only 26yrs old. That’s a great No.2 CB. I think Crackback has it right, if they let him go it’s because he is uncoachable. However, can you determine that after 1 yr in a new system? MAybe they can continue to drill it in his head to get his hands on WR’s. That’s why you pay these coaches big $. Also, Have you forgotten Cro saved our asses when Revis was hurt? What if Revis went out last yr and Lito was our No.1 CB – fergetaboutit! SO in the end, I think they bring him back at about 6MIL which is 3X his rookie contract salary. 3yr’s at 18M with 8-9 guaranteed and front loaded. We try one more yr with this experiment with more heat up front and see how it goes. If not then cut him. At least then we got something for our 2nd rd pick.
BTW Wilson is not ready. he is a good cover guy but has no ball skills. Lowery moves to FS and might be our starter, actually. We need that nickel spot, it’s killing us so WILSON has got to develop or Cole. I can’t see them getting another CB in draft when they HAVE to get a Pass Rusher and some DL depth. I see draft in 1st,3rd and 4th as all OLB, NT , DE, but I can’t guess the order.
Lastly, NO WAY we cut Jenkins—Prob restructure 2M plus incentives for playing 10+ games. And no Nambdi he’s gonna want at least 10-12M
Yess Lito costed as a 3rd and 5th and if we would have signt him it would have been 2nd and 5th. I dont understand.Giving picks away IMO.
This is the biggest reason why I want him back
We kind of are just giving picks away for nothing. It’s not like Cro was just so awful we should want nothing to do with him. I really think his struggles come from the fact that we tried to use him like Revis, and though he’s good, he ain’t no Revis. Use him like how we used Lito in ’09 and I think we see similar results, only 3x better.
I agree
I don’t see anyone out there in the draft or in FA that a) we can afford and b) will be as good or better than Cro.
Now, if you can’t afford Cro, than that’s a different story. But with some of the cuts we are making, we might be able to sign him. I love a healthy Jenks, but that rarely happens, so he’s got to go.
I’d let Brad Smith walk and have Cro return kickoffs. Looked damn good in the playoffs!
I realize it’ll be tough to afford Cro, especially considering that I’m all for resigning Tone and Bray and keeping LT for one more season.
by struckanerve9 on Feb 18, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Don't like it
I’m going to go against the general consensus here and say that I’m really not thrilled at the idea of letting Cro go, for a few reasons.
First, we gave up a lot to get him. Now, that by itself isn’t enough to keep him, but it does factor in to the decision to let him go or keep him.
Second, I don’t see a viable replacement for him on the team or in FA. Wilson looked pretty awful most of the year (got outplayed by COLEMAN, who couldn’t cover my grandmother). Cole may grow into a decent nickel and Coleman, well, I think my feelings on him are clear. FA is a huge risk right now with the CBA situation, so I won’t even get into it. Plus, the guys we could get are probably way too expensive anyway and I don’t want to gut the run defense/offense just to improve the pass defense. Drafting where we are, I don’t see an obvious replacement. Plus we have other areas of need to address (DT/DL, OLB) in the pass rush.
Third, Cro showed some additional skills that I don’t think anyone realized he had in the playoffs. He looks like he could be a real weapon in the return game. Put him back to return kick offs and now he looks like a bargain.
I think if we do let him walk we will have to do A LOT of work on the pass rush to protect that 2nd CB, who will surely get picked on mercilessly.

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