So now can we appreciate Jim Leonhard more ?

It’s not as much as how good Leonhard is, is how bad this team is overall. If you’re in a boat with 10 holes in it that are barely plugged and still taking on water, then an 11th hole sinks the boat, it’s not like you were taking care of the boat that well to begin with. The point being we weren’t winning the Pats game last year or this Eagles game with Leonhard either.

The opposing offense once again scored more points off of turnovers then our entire offensive output. Unless Leonhard is gonna start call offensive plays, I don’t think he could have made a difference in this game. Especially considering the failures on multiple levels of the defense, not just at safety. which we have been seeing all year despite Leonhard being healthy.

I still don’t know why the coaching staff is trying to fit that square peg in a round hole. I think our success last year without Leonard was due to the emergence of Lowery at Safety. The Pool/Lowery combo was incredibly effective against TE threats, I’m still scratching my head on that FO transaction.

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again… we NEED upgrades at BOTH Safety positions as well as RT…. maybe even more so given our team is so Defensively focused.

but Eric Smith said Eagles were calling out our coverages, I don’t remember teams doing this when Leonhard was on the field.

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Rex Ryan on Eagles WRs calling out Jets coverages: “It doesn’t generally happen with our defense. We’ll try to change some things.” #nyj

Whether that’s on Pettine, or Rex, or the personnel, I don’t really know, but they never send blitzes anymore. To start the game off the D forced a 3 and out, once our offense got through hanging fourteen points on ourselves, it was a wrap. Even thought the game was over at that point, did any of you stick around long enough to watch that Plaxico TD? It was pretty nasty

What do you think, Rex turns off his headset and sticks cotton in his ears when the defense is on the field? I think Rex should be partially responsible for what’s being called. So what, Shotty makes all the calls for offense and takes full blame and responsibility, Pettine makes all the calls for the defense and takes full blame and responsibility. So what’s left? What does Rex Ryan do? Does he just hang out and pump guys up?

Everyone knows that I’m a Leonhard fan. Hugely so.. however I think it does go to show based off last year and this year how much the team relies on specific players. Regardless of their play ability. Letting Lowery go was a mistake and we all knew it when it happend. We lost games earlier in the season with Mangold going down, we lose yesterday with Jimmy out. I’m not saying those guys not playing is the reason for the loss.. we all know both sides O and D were playing poorly but if we had some legitimate depth we could survive these injuries without having to get blown out or go on a 3 game losing streak to get our act back together.

This team, this year is not as good as the past two Jets teams we’ve seen. And I’m not all convinced 2009 was even a great team. We were passable in the regular season. So far this year we have beaten most of the teams we were suposed to beat and flunked against others and the playoff teams.

I’ll be suprised if we can handle the Giants and Miami to reach the playoffs. If we can manage to pull that out of our rears this year maybe we can do something good. The last two years says that we are a different team in the playoffs. But we still have to get past the Giants and the Phins.

i wanted poole and lowery to be our safety pairing this year . would they have made a difference to the way the defence plays ? maybe not , but at least it would have looked like the coaches saw our problems covering TE ’s and tried something different to change it . with leonard we just stood still

is to start grooming his successor.