Eagles 45 Jets 19: Eagles Soar; Jets Lay an Egg
by John B on Dec 18, 2011 8:31 PM EST
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PrintThe Jets fell to 8-6 today after a 45-19 thrashing at the hands of the Eagles today in Philadelphia. This one was about as lopsided as the score would indicate. It was a really bad outing for both the offense and the defense. The Jets could not stop turning it over, and the defense could not get a stop. The Jets talked about this like it was a do or die game. They sure did not play like it. Fortunately, this team still has a chance, but this continues to look like a pretty average team. They beat up on weak opponents for three weeks, but real problems remain.
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The Bad:
Santonio Holmes: Here is a simplistic summary of today's game. The Jets wanted it to be a game where they could pound the ball, control the clock, keep Michael Vick off the field, and keep it low scoring. The Eagles wanted to get up big, force the Jets to score a lot of points and play up tempo, and unleash their pass rushers. Holmes' early fumble and the interception that went through his hands resulted in 14 points and gave the Eagles what they wanted. The Jets got taken out of their game. The Eagles gained confidence, and things snowballed from there. Even on the one thing Holmes did right today, he messed up by taking an idiotic taunting penalty. Really? You've cost the team 14 points, and then you showboat?
Mark Sanchez: Here is a simplistic story of the Jets' season. They can beat up on the bad teams by playing defense and pounding the ball. When they step up, they need more, and Sanchez has been unable to provide. The past few weeks, people have been talking about Sanchez's improvement, but it has really been about the team giving Sanchez simple passes to hit. When things aren't going well, a team needs to make big plays in the passing game. Things are not always going to be open. The quarterback needs to be able to identify small holes and put the ball on the money. The protection today was terrible. The defense was not good. This is the kind of thing that separates great teams from average ones. The great ones have a quarterback who can carry the team when things are bad. Sanchez isn't there yet. Maybe he will be one day, but he is not today.
Offensive Line: Jason Babin owned Wayne Hunter today. Even when he wasn't getting sacks, he was beating Hunter soundly. Hunter was slow to identify his man more than once. It was a group effort from the line, though. There were frequent miscommunications and a ton of penalties on the unit. Sanchez kept getting hit today. Four sacks is not nearly good enough.
Muhammad Wilkerson: Despite the late sack, the rookie had a rough game in his homecoming. He was sealed pretty consistently in the run game early. A lot of LeSean McCoy's early yardage was on him.
Mike Devito: Devito might still be slowed by his injury because I thought he was not great at the point of attack.
David Harris: Harris today reminded me a lot of him in the AFC Championship Game last year. He took some bad angles and got sucked to the ball carrier too far, which opened up cutback lanes for McCoy to exploit. There aren't many backs in the league who can do that, and it's starting to feel like Harris allows it to happen whenever the Jets face such a back.
Bart Scott: Scott's day started by getting burned in coverage, and it continued with him making some of the same mistakes as Harris.
Kyle Wilson: I thought Kyle had a bit of a rough day. He got beaten badly a few times in coverage and had some bad efforts on blitzes. On one of them, he came at Vick too hard ala Eric Smith on Tim Tebow and lost outside contain to open a big Vick run.
Calvin Pace: I did not like the job he did setting the edge on McCoy. He also missed some opportunities when he had Vick within range to sack.
Eric Smith: "Toasted" might not be a strong enough term to describe the way he was beaten on Brent Celek's 73 yard reception. That was brutal. The more I watch Smith, the more disappointed I am by the subtle things, though, that you notice by watching closely. I am talking about taking a bad angle to a ball carrier that allows a 2 yard run to turn into an 8 yard run. There are some runs McCoy made that Jim Leonhard would have stopped in Smith's case.
Brodney Pool: He shares some of the responsibility for Celek's 156 yard game even if he did have a nice fumble return.
LaDainian Tomlinson: He was decent as a blocker, but tell me there is not a big difference in burst between him and Joe McKnight.
Mark Brunell: Was anybody watching late in the game? My goodness. He was throwing up UFOs. This team went with Wayne Hunter at right tackle, and has this guy as the first in line at quarterback?
Aaron Maybin: With the path he took to the quarterback, there were times he looked like he was closer to the New Jersey Turnpike than Vick.
The Good:
Shonn Greene: Despite the hideous pass blocking, the line did a decent job run blocking, and Greene found his holes. He had 73 yards on 18 carries. If the Jets had avoided the early turnovers and used Greene more, it could have been a different game.
Ellis Lankster: He made a great hustle play early recovering the muffed punt that we would be talking about had what happened after been different.
Dustin Keller: He had 3 catches for 73 yards, including a great 41 yard diver. With the cover corners the Eagles have, I would have liked to have seen the Jets focus more on him.
Jamaal Westerman: He had a holding penalty blocking on a kick return, but he also forced a fumble on another to set up a New York score. Although he has had a disappointing year on defense, I have really liked what he has brought on special teams.
Antonio Cromartie: He was very good in coverage and looked good as a return man, busting a 42 yarder.
Darrelle Revis: It was pretty quiet on his front.
Other Thoughts:
- The NFC had better hope the Eagles don't make it to the Playoffs because their incredibly talented team is putting it together at the right time. They could be like last year's Packers if they somehow sneak in.
- I think the Jets really missed Jim Leonhard today. Believe it or not, I do not think the area where they missed the starting safety was in coverage on a day when the other team's tight end went for 150+ receiving yards. Leonhard is the master of finding the lane a running back is cutting, and closing it off. I think he could have shut down some of McCoy's outside runs.
That was ugly. The Jets can still make the Playoffs, but I stand by my previous statements that I am not sure how deep this team will go even if it makes it. They got healthy beating up on weak teams. Today they had to step up and once again failed to do so. This one exposed a number of fundamental problems.
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Sleeping like a baby!
Scamtonio Holmes is sleeping like a baby to-nite because he obviously only thinks about himself and his paycheck. Physical mistakes happen but that taunting penalty down 28-9 makes me want to choke the life out of him.Steelers said he was a selfish player.
everyone fumbles, everyone drops passes, and he probably only had that superman t shirt clean in his locker. but his comments after the game spoke of a man who does not desire growth nor accountability within himself. He can be one of the players that take this team to the next level, he’s been that in the postseason and he’s been that player in clutch time for the Jets. I think the fans, the coaching staff, and his quarterback all believe in him regardless of any on field miscues. Tone needs to take it to the next level, not as a player, but as a man, and a teammate.
I would have loved to see a game where we didn't turn it over and give them a big lead so quickly.
Just to see how things would have turned out.
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we had the last week were you in a coma for it?
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I wanted to see how a game with the Eagles would have went without the turnovers in the beginning.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
Hmmmm...
I haven’t known how to feel about this team all year. I can’t even decide if I want us to make the playoffs or not. I think can we win the wildcard round, but I don’t see this team doing anything but getting owned in the divisional round (and three losses to the Pats on one year is pretty hard to swallow).
I also think if we make the playoffs it’s going to hurt in the long wrong. The stock answer to any serious questions about this team or some of the coaching staff and practices has been, “Hey, we made the AFC Championship twice, we must be doing something right!” And we are. We’re doing a lot right. We’re also doing a lot wrong.
And now
the final collapse. The Jets will lose the next two games and finish the year 8-8. They will be playing against two real good defenses, Giants and Dolphins. The Jets offense struggles against aggresive defenses. Giants are playing for their lives and will present the Jets with another tough game. Dolphins are playing great defense and would like nothing better than to end the season with a win over the hated Jets. There will be a lot to reflect on in the off season. The emotional rollercoaster will continue for two more games. GO NETS!
Sanchez needs more blame for some sacks he takes. Along with some other guy who doesn't even play.
He can’t feel the rush closing in and doesn’t step up in the pocket till someone’s already on him. All those strip sacks this year, beyond demonstrating that he doesn’t know how to protect the ball, illustrate that he has no pocket awareness. Then add to that how he doesn’t know how to safely throw the ball away and you’ve got a friggin turnover machine.
He flashes the ability to be great. We’ve all seen those glimpses. The issues laid out above fall on coaching. Maybe he’s getting instructed and it’s not taking. Judging from how it seems his struggles have been handled before (with gimmickery), I don’t think it’s that. So…
Yeah, I don’t even need to say what I’m suggesting, right?
by Exystence on Dec 18, 2011 8:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Err Brett Favre revisited?
An aging QB off a serious injury … how long before he was on IR?
I think Sanchez like every QB would be nervous behind this line and why he’s not comfortable in the pocket.
He is a fighter and he needs better QB coaching / OC play calling to help him out.
He can’t feel the rush closing in and doesn’t step up in the pocket till someone’s already on him. All those strip sacks this year, beyond demonstrating that he doesn’t know how to protect the ball, illustrate that he has no pocket awareness. Then add to that how he doesn’t know how to safely throw the ball away and you’ve got a friggin turnover machine.
You’re absolutely right, and frankly this is an area where he seems to have regressed from last year. Maybe I’m mistaken, but I remember him having much better pocket presence a year ago.
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He really doesnt look comfortable at all in the pocket
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 18, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I go back to one thing.
They had him practicing with that buzzer after the Ravens game to get him to speed up his decision making. He seems so uncomfortable back there, like he’s trying to go a million miles an hour. This obviously isn’t the whole issue, but it probably hasn’t helped.
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Thats a good point
He went from holding the ball to long, to getting rid of it way too early in the matter of a week. Sanchez needs to improve but our offensive staff is a joke. Even Callahan doesn’t seem to be doing a good job this year.
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 18, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
And it’s stuff like that which makes me really feel strongly a change is needed on the offensive staff. It feels like they aren’t really teaching. Everything is a gimmick from that to the color coding to Brunell getting first team snaps.
The more I think about it, the less I can really blame Callahan. Hunter is a low end journeyman. I actually think he’s played way over his head at times. Callahan has pretty much taken him from zero to somewhat passable. He’s just not good enough to be an effective starter.
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Hunters the biggest problem
But the whole O-line has looked suspect at times this year. He’s also involved heavily in the running game, which has been on and off all year.
I guess I see your point though, the entire offense has been bad this year.
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 18, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I also think that’s why Sanchez has been going through his reads so quickly. Getting blasted by Ed Reed AND Haoli Ngata will apparently have that effect on you.
+1
It pisses me off more that Rex announces his lame gimmicks to the media.
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Ducasse - trial by fire?
I think we need to get Ducasse in for some snaps. He’ll either step up or be cut.
His learning curve has been slow due to coming from a Div2 college and maybe not being a native English speaker BUT we need to find out whether a high pick at RT needs to be spent.
I don't agree with your point on Sanchez John
Sanchez stepped up in the Buffalo game as well as the Redskins game. The guy takes hit after hit and he never takes a play off.
Who cares if he is completing easy throws? Shit Tom Brady has made a living off making easy throws early in his career. I’m pissed he wasn’t given those types of play early in the season.
The guy is in his 3rd year and you want him to take over a game? With what? He needs protection, he needs his guys to hold on to the ball and he needs his defense to stop a drive every now and then.
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Sorry GeekyGrl,
but I can’t bring myself to agree with you. Too many times have I seen Sanchez miss wide open receivers. And his completion percentage has always been leaving something to be desired. Granted, I will ABSOLUTELY give credit where it’s due: that first interception was a perfectly thrown ball right to Holmes, and he totally effed it up.
The kid can be good one day, no doubt about it. But the thing is, we’re paying him way too much money, and the fans have waited over 40 years for another championship. I think the team owes it not only to itself, but moreso to its fans to bring in a PROVEN veteran quarterback. I think you’ve seen enough of my posts to know who I’m thinking of. But if the team doesn’t want to cut ties with him, he needs to sit and rework that contract.
The last thing I will say is this: can you HONESTLY tell me Mark Sanchez is worth $14.75 million, that could actually turn into $17.75 million THIS year???
Well everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can tell you right now
If Peyton comes in with Wayne Hunter “protecting” him, Peyton will be in a wheelchair before the season is over.
And no Sanchez isn’t worth 14 million, Sam Bradford isn’t worth the money he’s earned and neither is Stafford. That’s what happens when a QB is picked 5th in the draft and there is no rookie pay scale.
The guy is only in his 3rd year and it annoys me when as soon as we lose the first thing people want to say is Sanchez sucks or get rid of Sanchez. Why not show some faith in the guy, not changing his receiving corps every year and focus on building a good YOUNG team around him.
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by MDGeekyGrl on Dec 18, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Peyton Manning has had
an entire line of Wayne Hunters (except Jeff Saturday in 2010) and he barely gets sacked because he has the quickest release in the game. He and other elite QBs get the ball out F-A-S-T. Did you see Rivers last night against the same team that ravaged Sanchez? The Chargers have a band-aid O-line and he torched the Ravens.
A lot of this is offensive scheme and route running on the WR end. But John is right-it seems that Sanchez has really not been taught to:
a)understand his presnap reads.
b)step up in the pocket
c)go through his progressions quickly but comfortably.
In fact I would be willing to bet that if Sanchez improved on these areas he would be knocking on the ’elite" door even without improvements in throwing accuracy.
I am getting tired of this 3yr crap
face it in HIS 3yrs he has done nothing..then u’all saying well he has only 1 yr of playing College ball another lame brain excuse if u ask me…Sanchez does not have a TEAM around him..OL too me is hot and cold how many sacks this yr are they the #1 cause?..How many times has Sanchez changed the play @ the line because #1 He “read” a DEF the wrong way and threw a pick-6?…look there is another QB in the league who in HIS 2nd yr(1st year he rode the bench) comes into a Game(3rd game in season) and ends up winning a Superbowl(same QB also only played 2 yrs in college)
Jets management like Denver;s have plays that compliment the experience there QB has!!! and Sanchez still can not perform …..Sanchez is His own worst enemy!!!!! throws to rec;s well covered(even after game Says that "Ya I saw he was WELL covered YET still threw it why?).that is lack of His playing ability..everyone quick to Blame Off-cord why?..He calls the play the same play the HEAD Coach has agreed upon too Be used in that Game and Sanchez screws it up!!!!
How many times Has his own rec;s directly or indirectly thru suttle words gone after there so-called QB?…face it against low tiered teams Sanchez looks like he is the ONE!! But against top tier teams he is showing after 3yrs he still hasnt learned a dang thing!!!
everyone quick to Blame hunter why? take a whole OL to protect a QB, and yesterdays sacks proved this line isnt in SYNC!!!!!…
DEF..some games there in it but most games they looklike there going thru the motions..2 games in particular..#1 against denver, they allow Tebow to run 95 yards and score winning TD..against NE they allowed them to ONLY use 90sec;s to score!!! thats bad def..and who is the genius of DEF? REX!!! and this yr he has been shown and proven he lacks it!! HE isnt HIs Daddy, and I hate to say it BUT HIS Brother Knows How to RUN a DEF…How many “RINGS” did he win coaching NE? try 2 rings!!!!!!
right Now if Peyton was on Jets with OUR OL, he as 1 person said be in a wheelchair!!!!
Jets need to clean house this off-season..1 man does not make a DEF or a Offense..BUT it is a TEAM!!!!..Jets have too many “Me-Me” players, beginning with holmes and Sanchez!!!!..when the def lost that Game in Denver, Sanchez saying He lost the Game, Ya right whatever u say Sanchez!!!!
look REX is trying too do what “another” coach does and right now that has failed!!!!! right Now NE has 2 TE that ALL teams cant handle, and 1 of them is also a decent running back!!!! Hernandez!!!!!…we have a TE we dont use why?…REX thinks with Plaxico he has a magic player ya ok REX if u think so ….Holmes and LT both done and gone!!!!!
every season REX makes his bold projections and always is on losing end…He has this thing that HE has to either beat NE or Have other teams Beat them so He can say yee Haa!! we won the div!!!..sorry REX you cant ask other teams to do what Ur team Needs too do!!!!.face it thru ur BAD play calling on def(even ur own players came out and said THEY had wrong people on field during both loss;s too NE) ur team lost those games!!!!!.that LOST too Denver again bad play calling of Head Coach for DEF side of ball is HIS baby!!!!!
soon as REX understands that he isnt HIS Daddy He might turn things around!!!!!
this week we HAD 2 OFF-Cord and still we couldnt manage the game!! why?..Sanchez just seems lost, like he still questions a call-called in makes that KILL-KILL call and bingo he called wrong play,BUT others quick to say it is Off cord fault well is it?..NO it is the QB who still can not read a DEF, when he does he never seeks out his 2nd rec..He stays on #1 rec why?…
wow
Jets need to clean house this off-season..1 man does not make a DEF or a Offense..BUT it is a TEAM!!!!..Jets have too many "Me-Me" players, beginning with holmes and Sanchez!!!!..when the def lost that Game in Denver, Sanchez saying He lost the Game, Ya right whatever u say Sanchez!!!!
so you are blaming sanchez for taking blame? and you are saying he is a me-me player? should he say it is the D’s fault? wow, i’ve never heard someone call a player who said “it’s my fault we lost” and say he is me first. isn’t that the opposite of me first? your whole argument is rediculous.
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explain How a QB can come out and say He ost a game when HIS def couldnt stop TEBOW!!!!…Sanchez needs toi grow up..He alone doesnt win a game or lose a game..when he understands it is a TEAM concept he just might become a TEAM Player..His Post game shows he basically taking the Blame when he needs to CALl out HIS TEAM!!!.REX is wrong for backing Him as well he needs to be called out for HIS stupid Play calling when HE decides to make that KILL-KILL call..how many times has HIS play calling resulted in a pick-6?…face it Sanchez is NO ELITE QB!! he Likes to think he is BUT He isnt!!!!…even If with his mind frame he wouldnt make it playing for steelers..nor would he last in NE!!!!!….3yrs and still making rookie error;s..3 yrs and still looks lost…OC is not the full problem…BUT full problem REST with the HEAD COACH!!!..why Jets paying Brunell all that $$$$ I mean HIS JOB is basically to TEACH Sanchez, well I think JETS just threw all the $$$ down the drain for HIS TEACHERS all failed or maybe Student thinks He is better than those who have many YRS of exp!!!!
some of the calls Sanchez makes are outright stupid!!! case in point game against NE, "he hears in His helmet COACH’s discussing a T/O, note said discussing it, what does NITWIT DO? he calls the T/O why? right there shows me a player Who thinks he knows More than HIS Coach;s!! even REX said was most lame-brain call any player he has Coached call!!!!!
face it, Sanchez does Not give his DEF anything to fight for…they stop a team only to see the NITWIT call a KILL-KILL @ line throws a pick-6…now Def back on field down 7pts because of NITWITS failure again to read a DEF!!!!! ya give him time Only been in league 3yrs!!!!!
face it Sanchez cant run to save his butt, runs like that penguin in that movie happy feet, he doesnt run He waddles like a penguin!!!!
what sanchez NEEDS to say is that TEAM FAILED!! not that he failed because His DEF couldnt stop tebow!!!!!….
Sanchez is wrong for always saying He lost game..A TEAM WINS AND A TEAM lose;s..Sanchez has to learn HE is PART of a TEAM!!! and is certaintly NO ELITE QB!!!!!..maybe in ur madden games he is BUT thats only place!!!!!.
what TEAM over 500 this YR has this TEAM truly won?….I hate to say it BUT while we may beat GIANTS I fear MIAMI!!!!!
you don't get it, do you?
a humble qb says it’s my fault. if you watch any other press conference, thats what the qb’s do, blame it on themselves. you are an idiot. you are more then a idiot. what are you going to blame sanchez for next. that he’s mexican? that he went to usc? you start off by saying that sanchez should blame his team, but then you say he played terribly. can you just stop posting and keep your idiotic comments to yourself?
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The guy is in his 3rd year and you want him to take over a game?
It’s what the team told us he was ready to do before the year. It’s as much a knock on the team for asking too much of him as it is on him.
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At the same time, I think it’s very difficult to say Sanchez has taken a step forward this year.
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I would say he has
His numbers are better this year, even though he has less talent around him. Hunter tries to get him killed at least once a game, Burress runs some truly awful routes, and probably biggest of all, an inconstant running game. It seems like he’s playing with less confidence this year.
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 18, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This game brought up the Hunter getting Sanchez killed ratio.
He was going whole series which whiff blocking, then quarters, then halves. Awe inspiringly bad.
We all knew that wasn't true....
The Jets aren’t built to have the QB throw 40 times a game and Sanchez is not that QB. He’s not going to be Drew Brees, he’s going to be Big Ben. In order for him to get there Sanchez needs to have someone mentor him properly. The coaching staff is trying to fit a square into a circle, they need to let him be who he is, show him how to maximize his abilities and create a game plan around his skill set.
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by MDGeekyGrl on Dec 18, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Way I see it, if you don’t have a QB who can throw 40 times a game, you don’t have a QB.
Umohan is right. We wasted a #5 overall pick for a game manager?! And we’re gonna pay this guy over 17 million dollars? Think about it – this is a player the coaching staff doesn’t want throwing deep. So what skills does he have to maximize? He’s painfully inaccurate, makes bad decisions and is a LOCK for a stupid turnover every. single. game…
Read some posts on sports pages from fans of other teams when they’re discussing a Jets game. They think Sanchez is a joke. Unfortunately this miserable experiment drags on because we’re the only ones who don’t get it.
by nationalist88 on Dec 19, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
how about you count how many QBs threw 40 times a game this past Sunday?
Sanchez threw the ball more times than Vick yesterday. In fact, he threw the ball more than many other QBs that played yesterday.
and still lost!!!!
how many of his 40 passing attempts were dead-on? how many were garbage? why does he still throw to a well covered rec? why doesnt he throw it away Like every other QB knows how too do!!!!..face it Jets management designs plays they feel Sanchez can handle..sure OC calls in plays.BUT those PLAYS are the ONES the HEAD COACH he decided during the week of practise they will use!!!.today we had 2 Off-cord and Sanchez STILL Failed!!!!!.how many times did he Call-out his 2 favorite words of KILL-KILL and see play go nowhere!!!!..face it Sanchez is NO game manger, for the 14million Jets are paying Him this yr,the FANS are being shafted for there ticket sale pay for this 2nd string QB!!!!!
DEnver has plays that play into there QB ability even Coach FOX admitted too that aspect!!!!
I agree on other boards there picking apart our teams faults,and JETS management needs to address both sides of the Ball….HEAD COACH decides what plays will be used during what game!!! HIS OC follows His HEAD Coach decisions..BUT it is the players who have too perform what is being called!! BUT when we have a QB make those play changes at the line and play goes nowhere, WE are quick to jump all over a Coching staff why?..Sanchez needs to be called out by Management not protected like a Baby..maybe if that happened HE might grow a few!!! might see the whole picture!!!!!…Jets have too many “ME-ME” players..they dont play as a TEAM!!!!
DEF doesnt help there OFF…and Off doesnt give there DEF anything to protect!!!!
sure hunter played badly BUT whole OL played badly giving up how many sacks?..Sanchez can not play out of a pocket and proves it every time he attempts it!!!.watch other teams like Saints..Packer;s see how well there QB stay in a pocket..sanchez cant do that because of NO OL
U know I hope Schotty does leave and next yr with a new Off cord..Sanchez doesnt change then we will all know that Sanchez is the #1 problem!!
BIG deal only been a starting QB for 3 yrs….then we hear WELL HE has won 4 playoff games or won so many 4th quarter comebacks!! sorry people it was the TEAM.not 1 person…I think there are certain players on this team that dont have complete faith and trust in Sanchez…sacks prove it..rec are proving it….
a few yrs back a leading QB goes down and in comes a QB that never Started a game in His life leads teams too a 11-5 record.why? because HIS TEAM-MATES believed in HIM….
then a Team during there 3rd game of season puts in a QB who sat up till that point and only Started 2 yrs in college) goes on to WIN superbowl why? TEAM-MATES believed in HIM!!!!…JETS Team-Mates I feel have no faith in there QB and it shows on there playing…
two things
1) I’m not going to read your entire posts until you type to at least a 7th grade level.
2) You just ranted and never answer my question. And neither has national.
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welcome back national! we did bad enough for you to start rpping sanchez, even though he is not the main reason we lost this game
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Sanchez in the bad column?
What game were you watching? Actually, pretty much the only good performance today was Sanchez. Yes, he had two picks, but those were not his fault. One bounced off of holmes’ hands near the endzone, and the other one should have been caught by holmes on a slant. Holmes was horrendous today. Kerley dropped a 2 point conversion that he should have caught. For the most part, Sanchez was impressive, and only had a few bad passes. He performed well, even with the offensive line barely giving him any time.
On another note, the refs were horrible in this game. They could barely get any calls right, and all of their mistakes ended up hurting the Jets, and helping the Eagles. Obvious bias. However, this does not excuse the team’s horrible performance. Luckily, we still control our own destiny. Is winning the next two games too much to ask???
i agree, sanchez had zero time to throw and no one open. he may be a super star or he may be a bust but we’ll never know until he gets a solid line and the same receivers for more than a year.
i also agree about the refs, it was awful. there was a roughing the passer unfairly called on vick yet one missed on sanchez and there was what looked like encroachment on the eagles instead called as a false start on hunter (as if his day wasnt bad enough).
by jetrangermetfan on Dec 18, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, the officials were terrible (which has been common leaguewide this year), but most of it favoring the Eagles. And Sanchez was decent, not great by any stretch of the imagination. The fault here does not lie with him (nor did he lead the team to miraculous success, but not much can be done there.)
by Tim Sullivan on Dec 18, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
I don't even know what to say,
The fact that we still have a solid shot is embarrasing. Why oh why are we so inconsistent.
3 words..
It’s the JETS. We all act like we are shocked by this game. But really it happens every single year. At least it keeps it entertaining.
If your implying the forbidden three words SOJ
GTFO, Rex has killed that monster
And That Is a JET FIRST DOWN!!!
No This is Patrick...
by JetsFanMurphy on Dec 18, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Lets be real
I love the Jets but we all know it is always a roller coaster ride. We will make the Superbowl this year don’’t get me wrong.
I think if the Jets make the playoffs this year it would really harm them
this game proved we don’t have enough playmakers on either side of the ball and it’s starting to show and the only way to get good playmakers is to lose and get better draft positioning and I know it will hurt to miss the playoffs but it will help the Jets in the long run
I really hate ESPN
Now everybody sees how important
Leonhard is.
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true
last time he went down, well, lets just say it was a masacre.
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It was almost as bad as this game last time he went down
I really hate ESPN
Is anybody else watchin the Ravens and Chargers?
I hope Norvy gets canned so we can hire him as OC next year.
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 18, 2011 10:00 PM EST reply actions
Norv Turner or Todd Haley?
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
Turner
He likes run and utilize play action.
Good for Sanchez
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 18, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
I bet if we ran playaction, everytime Schotty decided to go empty backfield,
we’d have at least one or two more wins then we have.
by Timmaht on Dec 18, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That makes no sense
The only way to get the pressure off Sanchez is to go 5 wide with LT leaving the backfield. Don’t you know anything about offense?
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 18, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
No team
will win when they have 2 turnovers in the first quarter leading to 14 points. Holmes catches that ball in the red zone and were looking at a different game. once we fell behind we were done.
Can you guys pound the shit out of the Giants for me?
Pardon my French if thats not welcome here
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 18, 2011 10:16 PM EST reply actions
If the Jets play the way they did today, not a chance.
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I mean I don't think Babin destroying Hunter was too far-fetched
I was shocked at the Jets inability to stop the Eagles. My little brother (11 years old) pointed out to me this is the second straight year you guys gave up 45 the game after Leonard went down, hopefully for both our team’s playoff sake you guys can beat the Giants.
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
by metseaglesknicks on Dec 18, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
i reading you guys comments and for the most part a lot of you guys don't get it.
The FO did nothing to improve this team. Their one deep threat, they didn’t resign. They started a career backup at RT. They did not add a pass rusher or safety to fortified their glaring weaknesses. They start a safety who can’t cover me and I’m 40 pounds overweight, yet they exposed him week after week single covered on a TE. I can go on and on, but the truth is this years Jets is far inferior to last season’s Jets
by BIG OH!!!!! on Dec 18, 2011 10:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Very true.
I thought FO would make a move after Hunter was abused by Ware in first game. There were people available but Mike T. did nothing…I don’t know if the FO doesn’t get it or if they are just too cocky to admit they eff’ed up in the offseason.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
I agree with you to an extent
I still don’t disagree with the FOs decision to move on from Braylon Edwards. He wasn’t going to play in NY for the same amount of money he’s playing for in San Fran. And does anybody really trust him to stay put of trouble? He had another run in with the law this off season and it’s only a matter of time before he gets into something serious. That being said, I was against the Plax signing, it seems like they were going for a quick fix and Plax has been a terrible route runner this year. I can see why they decided to stick with Hunter. They probably thought he would turn into a solid RT with some experience or that at least Big Vlad would develop.
I have no idea why they didn’t get target new safety though.Makes no sense.
I guess they were thinking in a shortened offseason they should go for stability.
Needless to say, it backfired.
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 18, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well I agree with you on Braylon and to some degree Huntet
but we already had our safety in Lowery and we traded him away for a sixth-round draft pick
I really hate ESPN
Matthews is about to cost me a fantasy game
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 18, 2011 10:24 PM EST reply actions
Win as a team, lose as a team. Starts at the top.
I blame Schittiest OC in the league for alot of this but it’s pretty bad all over the team, from Woody down to the the bottom. I think the bottom is Hunter, but that’s not here nor there.
The coaching staff has not adapted a consistant game plan for the talent that we are fielding. The FO has splurged on unusable talent, Holmes, and incompetent players, Hunter, then neglects positions of need, line and backup QB. The players do play the game as good ol’ Herm once said. They seemed unprepared and uninspired, which IMO, falls on the coaches.
We are running into two teams that even if they had no chance at the playoffs,
they would still love to knock us off and have extra motivation. It looked like an easy schedule by record but was definitely not. The Eagles were obviously up to the challenge and I believe the 7-7, need a win to make the playoffs Giants will be too, as will the 5-9 Dolphins who have ended our season on the last game of the regular season before. If our team isn’t coached up this squad we may be looking at 8-8.
Soooo.....the Chargers are kicking the shit out of the Ravens
So weird.
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Add refs to the "Bad" column
Maybe I have to look again, but it sure felt like it was a homer crew today…at least in the first half, I thought some of those calls against the Jets were bogus and kind of took us out of the game early.
That being said, no way we played well enough to win anyway. Safeties and OLBs are killing us…that’s on Tanny. Hate Eric Smith all you want, but who else do we have?! Poole is obviously no answer. Don’t think Leonhard would have made much of a difference today either.
And Revis…maybe it was quite on his front overall, but he definitely let up at least one big first down catch that I saw…not the difference in the game, no doubt, but I get the feeling he kind of mails it in some times. Maybe I’m being harsh, but it is a loss after all…
Ravens losing could be good
maybe they’re playing for something against Cincy
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
Pittsburgh would have to lose too
If the Ravens are tied with Pittsburgh they will have to play Cincinnati for the division. If they’re one game back, they might not need to showup for Cincinnati.
by BIG OH!!!!! on Dec 18, 2011 10:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They have an early week 17 game
should steelers win next 2 but still lose in wk 17 ravens win div. Ravens will have to play ro win not knowing result of the steelers final game. This leads me to believe that 9-7 may get us in when looking at raiders and titans remaining games
Tolbert just owned Lewis
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Dec 18, 2011 10:47 PM EST reply actions
As optimistic as I was about our chances
I’m not that surprised about this outcome. Eagles are too fast for us, and the game was lost by santonio’s boneheaded play. Wayne Hunter is a POS out there… He disrupted alot of our rhythm with his crapiness. I hope he cleans it up this week.
by jets4life24 on Dec 18, 2011 11:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
According to this we don't need help...we still control our destiny
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;ylt=AliLmKLAtMxhcZh.TM5ggalDubYF?slug=ys-nflplayoff_picture
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
Yeah, thats what I've been hearing as well
That’s huge obviously.
I think the Bengals are going to lose another game regardless, but I think our playoff chances are still pretty decent. I’m not so optimistic about how far we’ll go in the playoffs though.
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Is It Just Me?
Or does it seem like Sanchez gets destroyed on a few plays every game. The same plays happen to the opposing QB or in another game and they get a roughing the passer call, but Chezmo never gets the call…
Not that I want him to be a pansy, but the NFL is such b.s. in the fact that as soon as someone complains about not getting calls (Vick), they start getting calls. When Vick bent his head down and our guy ran into him, terrible call!
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose
This team hasn't beaten anyone team over .500 or that is going to the playoffs since week 1.
Isn’t that a little disconcerting to anyone? If I hear Ryan or any of the players talk about the playoffs I’m gonna puke. They talk about making the playoffs and becoming dangerous. What a joke! They can’t beat winning teams and they certainly can’t win any meaningful games on the road.
This team doesn’t have any mental toughness or leadership when it counts. Eric Smith and Santonio Holmes are captains???? Their performance on the field today was pathetic and embarrassing.
If they make the playoffs, it will just be one more chance for us fans to see them fall flat on their sorry faces like they’ve been doing in every big spot this season.
last year we beat only 2
so yeah, don’t worry
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Anybody else get nauseous when...
On the opening drive we were ripping off 6-8 yd chunks on the ground and then Schotty inexplicably goes shot-gun?
I mean why stick with the run when ur ramming straight down their throats?
I knew the wheels were gonna fall off. I freakin KNEW it.
We coulda stole their heart right there. THAT was the whole game, imo. That was the moment. We coulda snuffed their spirit. Run it down their throat and work in some play-action in the RZ. But nope. We go schott-gun and throw some weak ass screen to Tomlinson, fumble it for a TD and that’s all she wrote.
Eff Schotty. Go get me Norv.
by Crackback on Dec 19, 2011 1:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions
yes yes yes
when something’s wrong don’t fix it. That is the opposite of Shitty Shotty, he constantly doe’s this.The offense would rip off 6 -7 on 1st, then 2nd motion to an empty BF, you knew it was coming every time they line up 4 wide, sad is all I can say it’s HS football 101. yes Norv would be a great upgrade, what’s up with Haley, I love his passion and fire, which is what I really feel the offense needs, somebody to get on Sanchez when he EF’s up, not poor guy it’s OK. Geez CB I could go on and on about this crap, it’s just so redonkulous.
by JETSFAN IN SC on Dec 19, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I mentioned this in the game thread and got ripped because,
“We have to pass some of the time.” Which is really just a cop out for Schotty defenders. You run it until the other team stops you, the pass has been hurting us all year, and anyone who watches the game knows this.
It’s not even as much of the passing as it is the lack of the threat of the alternative. We obviously aren’t running it out of the shotgun/empty backfield, even if the down and distance is a typical running situation. And even the wildcat is pointless for the same reason, it takes away the threat of anything else. Schotty = Mastering being predictable.
I guess people just have Stockholm Syndrome with Schotty, hopefully they’ll see how naive they are when we have even a mediocre OC someday (Anyday? Christmas Miracle?).
Well said on Leonhard - the small things.
The more I watch Smith, the more disappointed I am by the subtle things, though, that you notice by watching closely. I am talking about taking a bad angle to a ball carrier that allows a 2 yard run to turn into an 8 yard run. There are some runs McCoy made that Jim Leonhard would have stopped in Smith’s case.
It shocks me that people actually thought there was an upgrade with Smith replacing Leonhard (after Smith basically got benched for brainlessness).
Where was he all year when we got ass-raped by TEs? Seriously, when have you seen the guy make a play that wasn’t routine?
I see him missing tackles all over the place every freakin week and getting burned coverage every single time he’s singled up. He stinks.
by Crackback on Dec 19, 2011 9:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bad bad bad
I think this game flagged up several weaknesses on the roster.
1. OL – particularly RT but overall, only Mangold and Ferguson are legit at the moment
2. OLB – where’s the pass rush and pressure?
3. FS – Smith was horrendous again
4. WR – Sanchez can’t get rid of the ball if there is no-one to get rid of it to.
Whatever happens, whether we make the post season or not we need to improve these areas.
I am not sure of our cap status, but its always tricky to get real return from a high priced free agent. And signing Peyton Manning would be disastrous as he would cobble up whatever space we have, denying us the chance to improve elsewhere.
If we draft in the late teens and Courtney Upshaw has gone, I would trade down to the bottom of R1 and get an extra 2nd rounder.
R1 (30ish) Mohamed Sanu WR, a possible No1 guy, fearless with decent speed
R2 (ours) Vinny Curry OLB, after Upshaw it is much of a muchness as I think Ronnell Smith, Melvin Ingram, Brandon Jenkins,Frank Alexander and Curry all have similar skills. I think Curry is under the radar and would be a steal
R2 (extra) We can use this pick on a S (Mark Barron?) a RT (Levy Adcock, Bobbie Massie?) a ILB (Audie Cole?) a DE (Kendall Reyes?) …. all will help
R3 (ours) Trumaine Johnson, a CB/FS from Montana, who is capable of being a Day1 starter
R4 Brandon Washington LG a 320lbs Hurricane who has declared and is athletic enough to have done a reasonable job at LT. This will allow Slausen and Moore to compete for RG and maybe even let Slausen have a look at RT. We have no real depth on the OL interior and no competition to start.
Uprade OLB, WR, FS and the OL in the draft and we could easily find ourselves beyond the Championship game next year.
“Guess what? Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees probably wouldn’t have been good enough, either. When your team has three more turnovers than the opposition and your offensive line has you running for your life, the game isn’t easy. You tend to lose much more often than you win.” – Jason Cole
Thats what he wrote about Tebow playing against the Pats.
I think it fits pretty well here.
Another big difference between this year and Sanchez is getting beat down almost every single game. Even in last week victory he received a huge hit.
Hunter sucks and all BUT...
There are plenty of times where Sanchez holds the ball too long. There was one where Babin looped to the middle and rushed in Sanchez’s face and Mark had no idea Babin was coming right in front of him. I’m one of Sanchez’s defenders but he needs to be better, period. He can’t expect to keep racking up W’s when he leaves plays on the field and can’t be relied upon to keep pace in a shoot out. All his playoff wins have come when he’s thrown for under 200, but that trend probably cannot continue if he wants to win a Super Bowl.
by J-Nasty on Dec 19, 2011 6:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions
the question is
is he really leaving that many plays on the field? People groan every time he has an errant throw, but many QBs have errant throws.
What Sanchez’s detractors don’t realize is that his completion percentage is maybe 2-3-4 completions below the average? There are many things that can impact that besides inaccuracy…pass rush, poor game call, WRs not open.
IN FACT, there are many times where people just LOOK at the final completion percentage and say “man he sucks he’s so inaccurate” when if they were paying attention to the game (ie. Broncos), Sanchez was actually up near 75-80 and even greater in completion percentage! In the Broncos game in particular, he ripped off 11 straight completions!
So really, unless people are expecting Rodgers, Brady or Stafford from him, they need to stop looking at Sanchez with crap colored glasses. He’s more Matt Ryan, Flacco, Schaub…and they wouldn’t succeed in this offense either.
Finding fault with Sanchez
Everybody on here, is so quick to point out Sanchez’s many faults. That’s fine. What isn’t fine is, how quickly everyone forgets that Sanchez started exactly ONE season of college ball, before Tannenbaum decided to give up some high draft picks to get him. Why doesn’t anyone ask Mike T what he was thinking in picking Sanchez with our first round pick? We have no choice but to let Sanchez develope, and, remember, he is only in his fourth year of football, outside of high school.
No problem with Sanchez
He’s taken so many shot this year, I don’t expect him to know how to act when he does have protection.
but after 3yrs I would expect better results
- he can not READ a DEF…when he makes those play changes @ the line then by all accounts Schooty play calling is no longer a issue.NOW BLAME rest with Sanchez in-abilities.and He has proven time and time agin He can not CALL the right play over HIS lack of reading a DEF!!! when a QB after the game states on post-game that "YA I saw He was well covered BUT still I threw it His way WHY?..thats right there shows Sanchez is not progressing!!!!…
Funny isnt it everyone Quick to come out and say well this is ONLY His 3rd yr.or He ONLY played 1 yr of Starter in College..like BIG deal…I recall another QB that Started NO games in all 4 yrs @ same College Sanchex went to and lead a Team to a 11-5 record!!!!! why U think Maybe Because he had TEAMMATES that believed in HIM..something Sanchez doesnt have..Proof? OL has allowed how many sacks this yr?..what leads has Sanchez really given His DEF to protect!!! they go out and stop a team only to see NITWIT throw another pick-6…then these DEF players right back on field protecting what? nothing…
another QB, plays 2 yrs as a Starter sit his 1st yr..comes into game during the Teams 3rd game following season and guess what HE wins a SuperBowl why? TEAM-MATES belived in HIM!!!! plus he has remained a Starter since that game which I re-called was against our JETS!!!!!!
Jets were wrong to throw Him into the game as soon as they did..he needed to Sit and learn the GAME!!!!….3yrs later we are still seeing a QB who at times looks LOST!!!! plays as being a lost child!!!!…I hate to say it BUt I dont think He has the full TEAM Trust..the sacks have shown and proven this…
everyone saying WELL each week he does watch game film..well His play on field shows me he didnt “catch” anything from all His Film watching!!!!!!..I mean Brunell is being paid how much to TEACH Sanchez?.the QB Coach being paid as well..then we have 2 Off-cord and still no results why?..something tells me Sanchez has this mind-set he knows ALL and the Coach;s no nothing!!!!
look at the Blunders he pulls..during game Against NE, he admits he heard over his head-set the Coach;s discussing calling a time-out, what does lame-brain do? HE calls that T/O why? when did he become the Head coach? when did he decide that HE makes all the CALLS!….everytime He calls that KILL_KILL he calls a play that doesnt work why? because he again failed to READ a covergae!!!!…3 yrs of getting paid BIG$$$ if I was a season ticket holder I would ask for a refund for this player isnt worth more than a plug-nickel!!!!!.2nd string QB at Best!!!!
fine fire ur OC..and next yr while Sanchez fails and he will because he has this mind-set that HE IS THE #1 QB, u all can look back and say OOPS!! Sanchez is the reason…How many times in non-suttle ways have his rec;s called him out?….Jets are stuck because they Have no backup because there using there backup….
also this crap He won 4 playoff games.ya ok fine..way I see it is that the TEAM WON those games.for if DEF doesnt due there job nothing Sanchez does will matter….a TEAM wins a TEAM lose’s..BUT HIS post game shows are a JOKE…DEF lost denver game yet this shmuck comes out and saying He lost the Game,ya ok TACO-BOY what happen did U call wrong plays..
GET A QB that can play in NYC..not a KID that thinks he is ELITE!!!…3 yrs and still stinks!!!!!
Again, i see a lot of complaining
This team is not that good. No playmakers on either side of the ball. The coaching is terrible on both sides. How do you have a safety who can’t hold a cup of coffee, yet you keep him in single coverage without no help. Conversely, the offense have the worse OT in the game yet there is no help provided for him. He gets beat like a drum all year and still no plays where a RB chips or a TE stays in to provide help.
by BIG OH!!!!! on Dec 19, 2011 8:01 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Let's not freak out after a big loss,
I don’t know how some of y’all didn’t see this happening. It happened last year when Leonhard was hurt. It took us some time to get the defense back to performing with out him.
Our game plan was so predictable, Eric Smith said after the game Eagles were calling out the coverages.
I hope everybody sees how important Leonhard is to this team ( I’m a big fan of you crackback, but now i’m sure you see this too)
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Really? What's he do besides miss tackles and get burned in coverage?
Why does every single TE we play against have a freakin career day? If Smith is so obviously terrible in coverage, why did Mr Genius Leonard keep letting him get solo’d up out there? Why didn’t Leonard position himself to be the guy in coverage?
Why does he miss so many tackles in space? You think he wouldve made difference with McCoy??? Based on what? When has ever tackled somebody in space?
I don’t get what u Leonard apologists see when u watch games. Rex makes another jackass comment about one his guys and everybody takes it as gospel. Dude consistently effs up alignments, misses tackles, and generally gets his ass kicked all over the field on a consistent basis. Yet people have this need to attach some unseen, unknown competence to the guy. I don’t get it.
I’ll make it simple… He stinks. Eric Smith stinking worse doesn’t make it less so, even though it may appear that way.
U think slow little Jimmy would have a difference against the freakin Eagles? Cmon man.
by Crackback on Dec 19, 2011 10:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hah, I just made this same arguement on his fanpost.
Smith < Leonard < 2nd string SS on most other teams
1. they deferred the ball and kicked instead of received. They’ve scored TD’s on opening possessions the past 2 weeks. Give the offense confidence by letting them play first every time, instead of getting the ball at the 6 yard line.
2. Identify what your good at. Been running the ball good, but didn’t run at the Eagles outside of the opening drive. Come on! If you run it 30 times and throw it 20, Holmes doesn’t have a fumble, and another one bounce off his face!
3. Wayne Hunter can’t figure out what to do unless a guy lines up 12 inches from his face. That’s just terrible.
4. First down run (up the middle), 2nd down short pass, 3rd down (variation of wildcat or a slant to Holmes). You can toss, sweep, trap, counter, run off tackle, why is it always a 1st down run up the middle?
Weaker Team...
From day one of this season. I think everyone was nervous about this year, for the team that started this season was notably weaker than the one we finished with. Sanchez has not progressed the way one might have hoped, but no reason to single him out. O-line has been awful, except recently on running plays. No pass rush all year. You see Sanchez hold the ball too long, but when the camera replays what’s going on in the secondary, nobody’s managed to get separation — and he’s been told to prioritize ball protection. Yesterday, S was criticized for throwing the ball too soon, but everybody could see the eagles revving up for a five-alarm rush. Receivers not turning their heads — give him some help. We have never generated pressure with the D-line, always have to strip coverage, and yesterday was a joke. Sometimes it looked like the Berlin wall between pass rushers and Vick, and no one could catch him anyway. Coaching not impressive all year.
Whatever happens for rest of year, FO has to step up in a very thoughtful way. An early post hit the nail on the head. If we do well in the playoffs by some good breaks or whatever, the swagger will return, and they will decide we have the platform for going forward. We don’t.
We had a bad offseason
well
i agreed with everytihng except the last line. we are 8-6 and still in control of our owm destiny. if we win our next 2, we’re in. i don’t think we can win a sb this year, but i do hope we get into the playoffs. this would be the first time that a jet team made the playoffs 3 years in a row, and i would like rex to get some recognition for what he has done over here.
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Do not see them being able to beat the Giants
unless they open it up a little more. If Revis is on Nicks, who’s covering Cruz and Manningham?
The Eagles were jumping all our short routes and screens. How many times can you run the same slant to Holmes and Burris? Over and over again every week… They took one or two shots downfield all game. That’s not enough to keep the D honest.
well
who’s covering Cruz and Manningham?
cro and wilson. will they do it well? thats a different question. cro played well last week
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And don't forget Ballard
will probably abuse Smith. It seemed like Maclin had a pretty nice game yesterday, not sure who was on him. They have to pressure Eli, if they don’t, he’ll pick them apart. And if they blitz him, he can also just go deep. Gonna be tough.
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