Jets Somehow Get a Win
by John B on Nov 27, 2011 4:17 PM EST
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PrintThe Jets ended their losing streak today and moved to 6-5 on the season with a 28-24 win over the Bills. Even in victory, today does not feel completely satisfying. The Jets really solved none of the major issues that have been plaguing them. The Jets easily could have lost this game had it not been for some lucky bounces. It is also time to end the argument over whether the team's real problems are the players or the coaches. Both are, and the issues start at the top. I dare anybody who watches this team on a weekly basis to suggest otherwise.
Now a win beats a loss. Even though this game did not fix the team's problems, it buys the Jets some time. It is not too late to get the problems straightened out. In the NFL, sometimes getting in and getting hot at the right time is what a team needs. I am still unconvinced this team has what it takes, but at least it is in the win column.
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I'll take it.
This is not a Super Bowl team but I’ll take every win we can get this year.
and the HOLMES of the... JETS!!!
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Am I just me? Or am I hot in here?
I know it's still early but I had to pull out the vodka after watching that game
What is up with the defense choking at the end of the game?
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
because they again played prevent
instead of applying the pressure…and they suck at it
Two spectacular catches (Keller, Plax) saved the season.
Both were poor throws by Sanchez on a night of poor throws. He just is really struggling with decision and accuracy, the two most important factors a QB has to do well in.
It was nice to see Sanchez out of the pocket on the TD though.
This team has to go undefeated to get to the Giants. Not looking good.
Well he actually was pretty poised at the end of that game
He didn’t play great but he came up when it counted
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
So what? Plax did what he was supposed to do, he made a great catche
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
The "so what" is that Sanchez is horribly inaccurate
He had a 60 QB rating in the first half, saved by another miracle catch by Keller
So what? We have a QB that can’t hit the side of a barn. No big deal.
+100
The Spots Fitzpatrick was throwing into were as tight as the ones Sanchez had to deal with. Sanchez completed under 50%-and Fitz like 70 %. Sanchez had an awful pick that lead to 7 points for the Bills, and every TD pass was wide open. Worst 90 QB passer rating game ever.
I don't care about the guys pass percentage just as long as we get the win
That is the most important thing to me. Fitz can make all the tight throws he wants, I only care about the W’s.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
You should because if not for some lucky breaks that
win is a loss. That is what you are failing to comprehend here…
No. I understand we COULD'VE lost but we didn't that's what you are failing to Comprehend
Every winning team gets some lucky breaks. And don’t tell me I’m failing to comprehend something that is very clear to me.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Sports fans can be so silly sometimes.
Forget the “win”-any QB could have delivered that win. The problem is these are repeat issues with him. And that is the biggest reason we have 5 losses already. We will never be an elite team if Mark Sanchez plays like he did today…regardless of the lucky win.
Dude, what's with the condescension?
I think we can all agree that there are issues, if we want to take the win despite that it doesn’t mean we are being foolish or ignoring the problems. Nobody wins games without a few lucky breaks, that isn’t the same thing as saying that Sanchez was perfect
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
No worries, Some people are just miserable.
I think that person would’ve been happier if the Jets lost today.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Because I find it rediculous when people talk about "moxie"
and the “win” as if somehow Mark Sanchez did something positive in that game. Sanchez threw another horribly damaging pick on our side of the field into triple coverage and couldn’t complte 50% of his passes against one of the worst pass D’s in the league. And no-I am very happy we won, and am not miserable, I just can’t stand that kind of fan blindness.
I don't think we're being blind
but I guess we will have to agree to disagree. No one is trying to ignore the problems or flaws, just giving credit where credit is due, even if it isn’t a lot of it.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Despite how bad he looked at points
He looked great at points too. I still think he’s one of the best, if not the best, QB in the league when he rolls out and can see the whole field. Unfortunatly, we have an OC that isn’t aware of our QB’s strengths, our WR’s strengths, or our ability to run the ball against Buffalo.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
I wish Schotty would just roll him out more
But why should he recognize that when he can’t recognize our other strengths? He’d rather play to our weaknesses since no one expects it
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by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Hard to succeed
in the NFL, regardless of the flashes of play, when you are just so damn inaccurate on bread and butter throws. I am not sure that Schotty can do that much about it (as bad as he is) and you can’t call for roll outs and broken plays every drop back.
That's just it Buzzy
You can see where Mark’s weaknesses are, and where his strengths are. Just like every other Jets fan. The only person that doesn’t see it is the OC who keeps calling those plays. Why wouldn’t you want to design plays that allow mark to get out from behind the line if those are the plays that he dominates.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
I don't think you can
call for roll-outs, bootlegs and the like that many times with success. Mark has to be able to complete simple drop backs. Also his arm strength seems so variable from game to game. He often throws behind receivers, throws high, throws into double and triple coverage, and never seems to throw to receivers at the right point of their breaks (he seems to wait too long). Those problems are so fundamental that I can’t see any OC hiding them. I do think a good OC could do more to play to his strengths, etc, but Mark has to get better on QB 101.
The problem isn't
that you can’t do it on every play. it’s that you can do it more than twice a game. And our OC doesn’t see that at all. And Mark had possibly his worst game of the year today. he was off, but still came through when they needed him too. And on his two rollouts, 2 td’s.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
the BEST QB? what u smoking?
look we won BUT BENGALS dis as well..we are still 1 game behind for a wild-card spot..and I dont see Steelers losing..
what “suks” is we have to play Eagles with VICK playing!!! and game against Giants I am worried about!!!! they have 1 of the best pass-rusher;s in league this year!!!
all we can hope for is #1 Bengals lose a game..we can split with Eagles-Giants..then I have to worry about miami!!!
I dont see winning out last remaining 6 games!!!..NOT with Eagles and GIANTS..also Denver WON again!! as did Oakland!!!!….will we get a wild-card slot? still up in air!!..
face it we got LUCKY against the Bills…Sanchez still throwing picks…still cant read a defense!!!
Yeah silly me for being happy with a win
Ugh I need to take a break from this site because some idiot on a blog is starting to get under my skin.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
agreed
mark still looks shaky, nervous, whatever you call it. It’s been three years and he still makes rookie mistakes.
what’s worrisome is that he only seems to play well when he doesn’t have to think so much (i.e. running 2 min offense).
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
which means
that someones making things too complicated for him. And I don’t blame him for feeling that way.
I think he’s regressed a bit since last year but I don’t blame him for that.
thats because He cant run a hurry-up Offense after 3 yrs in league!!!
say what you want But sanchez too me is re-gressing…I would like too know why we are PAYING Burnell all that Money? to help a QB learn too read defense’s and manage a game…watch when Sanchez throws a interception, and when on side-lines Brunell just walks past him Doesnt stop and discuss with Him…must be nice getting paid “millions” and do nothing!!!!…and ALl the MONEY JETS are paying Sanchez this year I am sorry he isnt giving the TEAM all there MONEY worth in His playing efforts..Plaxico bailed him OUT!!!!..Holmes bailed him Out!!!!
ya we won, BUT so didnt Denver..Oakland…Bengals and Steelers…and Bengals still ahead of us for a wild-card spot along with Steelers…WE need Denver-Oakland and Bengals to lose a few games..Steelers will get 1 wild-card spot..the other one is still up for Grabs..BUT right Now Bengals have it@7-4
Dude had 4 TDs today and won the game..
Haters gonna hate..
Usng TDs as a measure
for QB effectiveness is another issue for another day, but let’s be honest here: Sanchez played like crap & the Jets are incredibly lucky they won this game. No hate at all, just stating facts.
Live ironic and whatnot.
by Brian. on Nov 27, 2011 4:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I probably could have thrown 2 of those
and Kellen Clemens could have thrown all 4. 2 of those dives were saved by remarkable catches by Keller and Plax (although the Plax play overall was a good one for Sanchez).
great 4 td;s BUT still Behind Bengals..there@7-4 we are 6-5 with 2 BIG games(Eagles-Giants)
Ne won playing Eagles with Young playing..We get VICK!!!..also Giants I see as a hard game especially with there pass rushing front!!!! another 1 too worry about is miami!!! if Bengals win out we are out of a wild-card spot and I dodnt see Steelers falling to way-side anytime soon…
it is these Other teams we have too play with losing records that worry me..WASH..“won today”
Miami can be a trap-game..Eagles? well if VICK is on his game He can pick a defense apart..
beat Eagles and Giants then I might feel a wee bit more secure BUT Bengals also have to lose along the way!!!!…Denver won again!!!! Oakland won again as well!!!!
Brian Schottenheimer needs to write a book of his own:
“How to Get Away with Being An Awful Coach For Dummies”
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But he can catch.
tell him to just move away from the ball…
Cro never fails to show me how dumb he is
the guy has the football IQ of a piece of dirt, and I wouldn’t be surprised if his general IQ is down there as well.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
Wow. So I'm thinking you don't like Cro
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tell us how you really feel
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 27, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
ya think?
well I agree His IQ does show signs of being close to a Idiot..I mean 9 wives/Girlfriends and 8 kids with a different mother..right there is Proof he is missing something when it comes To using ones brain!!!!..POOL didnt look like he was on same page as rest of def on alot of plays
face it we won because both plaxico&holmes bailed out Sanchez!!!..But also if Buffalo didnt have so many of there top defensive players hurt out-come could have gone other way!!!..4td pass;s and only beat a banged up team by how many PTS?..thats wrong….
I think we could of
have won this game easily, but the Cromartie fumble, really put us in bad position.
Don’t overreact because of that mishap.
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well that along with REX;s so-called "ELITE" QB throwing another of his Bad throw interception
thats what 3 games in a row he has thrown a interception that has lead to other team scoring!!!!..Sanchez is a good part of Jets problems..Can;t read a defense…Cant run a 2 minute hurry-up offense…Take away Plaxico catches( bailing snchez out) and we were looking at another lost!!!
we have 3 worries facing us..EAGLES with VICK…Giants with there TOP-RATED pass-rushers and BENGALS!!!!..as long as bengals keep winning any hopes of a wild-card spot we lose…we need BOTH steelers and Bengals to lose PLUS we need to beat Both EAGLES and GIANTS, and the 2 up-coming TRAP-GAMES against WASH and Miami!!!
Hey we beat the Bills, yay!
Didn’t watch the game but the line I saw was 23 runs to 35 passes, while averaging 6.0 Y/A. Looks like another game of lets not go with what’s working or play to our strengths type of offensive outting. Not to mention we lost the TOP battle 36 mins to 24 mins.
Word. U didn’t even need to watch the game that sums it up pretty much perfectly. Oh and Sanchez needs to do some serious target practice.
Well John B helped by saying we didn't fix anything.
So I went back to the stats I’ve been pointing out all year, sad sad sad, that Schotty is still employeed by the Jets.
Iggles and Bolts are winning.
I hope Babin or Cole end Brady’s season.
I hate posts like this
I have to read about how classless GGN is on other site because people write stuff like this.
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I have the same feelings towards it
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by JetsFanMurphy on Nov 27, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well he wasn't asking for an injury per se, maybe
they just have a talk with Brady after the game and convince him to start a family and get away from football.
by Timmaht on Nov 27, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ok, he was asking for an injury.
Sad part is, we don’t need a Brady injury, we need a competent OC to evaluate our offensive talent and change the direction of it in any direction.
that or a Brady injury
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Not saying I want one here
but it wouldn’t hurt our chances and I’d have a hard time feeling bad
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Hah, we barely beat the Bills though, Brady only plays for 1 team out of
the 30 others (then us). I mean Brady retiring to be with his smoking hot wife wouldn’t hurt though.
I honestly think if Brady went down right now we could win the division
it’s not what I want, but it is my opinion.
If something like that were to happen, it would mean an AFC playoff slate without an elite QB except Roethlisberger. Rivers and SD are all but gone from the picture. Schaub is gone, hell Leinart might even be out.
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You may have a point these Pats aren't the Matt Cassell led Pats
they definitely would struggle Brady less. Unfortunately, our team needs a near miracle to sniff out the playoffs at this point.
Timmaht..now ur making statement's like the jets player with that Low IQ
Brady has a family..think 2 kids..now what suks is we have to play Eagles with VICK!!!! and then Giants with there top Pass-rushers…I am worried about Games against WASH and Miami.I see BOTH as TRAP-GAMES!!!..we also Need for Both Steelers and Bengals to lose a few games…I see Denver won again!! as well as Oakland!!!..
I don't go on any other sites talking trash. Why so sensitive?
by DesertJetFan on Nov 27, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
But then again, you're in charge, so I'll stop if it bothers you.
by DesertJetFan on Nov 27, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
I will say
I’ve made an SBN career out of kissing people’s butts on the sister blogs, and they’re still going to call us classless no matter what.
But I see his point, I can just see some whining division fan talking about how we wish physical injury on opposing players.
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How’d you feel if you went on Pats Pulpit and saw some dude saying “I hope somebody blows out Revis’ knee”
It just invites trolls.
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There’s a post on an SBN regional hub ripping apart one of my posts and attacking me cause of what I posted. I just figure I’m a fan of my team, and if a person who is a fan of another team wants to get that upset over what I wrote, so be it.
In the end we’re all fans, I’d expect someone at Pat’s Pulpit to hate Revis as much as I hate Brady. I don’t think when we wish injuries on players, anyone takes it seriously.
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Well played
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by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Revis # 24
Revis # 24
Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.
Darrelle revis
needs to be interviewed, and asked why he was playing such soft coverage.
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Rex at the press con suggested that Revis was in a special kind of coverage
and then cut himself off saying: I’m going to going to talk about what we were doing.
Thanks on info.
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I swear to God Schotty was trying to lose us this game
That was the worst 4 TD performance Ive ever seen, but at least Sanchez got the job done in the end.
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Nov 27, 2011 4:30 PM EST reply actions
When I saw Cro back to return that punt i turned to my wife, screamed...
and said "WTF? Something bad is about to happen. Westhoff has perhaps cost the Jets 2-3 games with that idiocy.
yes
1000 times yes. Antonio Cromartie should be banned from ever seeing a football field.
He is a track star nothing more. Throw his ass on the US 4*100 relay time for 2014 and get him off this team.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
he's a top 15 CB in the AFC
who happens to make bone headed plays from time to time
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by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 27, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
"top 15"?????
“from time to time”????
pass it here, let me take a hit of that.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
Cro has had a number of games as a Jet
where he’s been great
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"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
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by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 27, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Antonio Cromartie = Desean Jackson
its pretty similar. Good ability, but boneheads… id really rather have desean but i cant help making the comparison, even though they play on different sides of the ball and all that.
by devilsjets14 on Nov 27, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
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Rex says Cromartie was back fielding a punt since Jim Leonhard had the wind knocked out of him on earlier defensive play. #nyj
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I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? - Omar Little
Pfft..... not impressed...
This game may have been won, but by the graces of the football gods……….. Fitzpatrick helped us out big time, with 2 bad throws (where one would have givien the bills awesome field postion with an over the middle throw to johnson that was dropped, and 2. a bad pass in the endzone that had a WR wide open for a TD)
I take this victory very, very lightly…. the only thing that has been won was another oppurtunity to fix our Offense, adn try to fien as if we are actually a good enough team to be worthy of a playoff spot…
i love the jets, but there are still major problems with the Offense, starting @ the OC position to the QB…
I will say this though… we have great recievers, with all the ducks sanchez was throwing, plax and the flight boys had thier work cut out for them…
next game is against a similar offense against the redskins…
not strong at all…. if the jets perform as such once again, im afriad our luck may run out…
It's not the first time he's done something like this either.
He’s went from hero to goat in a game before if I remember correctly.
Against the Steelers last year
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He dropped it in Overtime and then said something really really stupid afterward
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i don't know
it seemed like revis got caught by bad play calling more than anything johnson did (especially on the touchdown when the play call was to play the back corner of the end zone – of course fitz and stevie read it perfectly).
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
bad play calling?
Johnson caught 6 of 8 target in the first half.
Johnson almost burned him deep (only a out of bounds thrown/catch made that not happen).
Johnson also dropped a wide open pass to a TD at the 15 or so.
the coverage calls on johnson were questionable
alot of soft coverage and calls for Revis to defer to the over the top safety.
But I hear you’re point, and its well taken.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
revis island must have had hurricane katrina passing thru
cuz honestly, revis was all kinds of messed up on those soft coverages… plus cro is sucking so bad with not only letting smith slap him around like a lil girl, but also dropping punts that can cost us games..
my vote is to put glue into his hands the next time he decides to return any kinds of kick offs
Sanchez in press conference over and over
keeps saying that the discipline in the passing game needs to be improved. It really sounds like he is calling others out. It is not what someone says about oneself. You say “My discipline” at most.
He thinks his stinking is because of others.
there were some horrible miscommunications
and I saw Holmes run some really soft (for him) routes during the game. Not passing blame for Mark who was so innacurate that it is a joke, but there was some bad play all around.
my point is that as a leader
he is repeatedly thinking that the problem isn’t him.
When you start pointing fingers (and Sanchez was), it is the beginning of the end.
i think thats to Schotty
disipline in the way of sticking to a gameplan that makes sense for what a team is built for…
plus sanchez should drink a tall glass of STFU juice, cuz its alot of his mistakes that are tiring out our Defense….
Just play the game dude, and win games, maybe then u can talk about other ppl
Sanchez misses some easy throws, but man I love his moxie.
Dude is a gamer. Looked like shit all day, and put it together for one drive when it matters most.
by Crackback on Nov 27, 2011 4:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes. The guy could have easily went into a shell but he came up when it counted.
There are a lot of things that need to be fixed in all 3 phases but I’m still happy with the win
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crack was it just me
or did Tone look mopey? I didn’t see the normal body language and swagger, even after he scored the TD
I hope its just frustration and not bad chemistry developing with the OC or QB.
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
Really? I didn't see that when they were on the sidelines late in the game.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Was going to say
On the other hand, that was after they hooked up for a TD so who knows. I think its reading way too much into things myself
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by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Sanchez kept saying “we” need to work on discipline in the pass game in the press conference.
Tone looked unfocused.
Sanchez threw up his hands on the mis-read in the flat by himself or Tone.
Just sayin, “who” is the undisciplined one?
I agree. that "discipline" talk was definitely for Tone.
And when dude misses so many gimme throws, he should just hush.
But I think Tone is frustrated by not only his QB’s misfires, but also the playcalling. Its gotta be exhausting to have no faith in the play called, then when you finally get a good one and you beat ur man clean, the QB can’t even get it near you.
by Crackback on Nov 27, 2011 4:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
^^^+10000000000
It’s hard to stay 100% on top of your game on every snap when you know your QB and OC isn’t.
by DesertJetFan on Nov 27, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
He did
and in the second half he was half-assing it on a lot of his routes.
What are you guys talking about? Didn't you see them talking to each other at the end of the game?
Sanchez was on the stationary bike and Tone had his hand around Sanchez and they were talking.
by DesertJetFan on Nov 27, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I saw too. It's funny how some people around here want to make something out of nothing.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
i'm not making up anything
I was just asking a question based on what i though i saw lol. my bad?
"Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
Yes but before that
a lot of bad interaction, miscommunication and frustration between the 2. The chat they had at the end of the game seemed to me (given what happened all game) more of a “hey I still got your back” chat after a very frustrating game for Tone and probably Mark too.
They were on two completely different pages all game
Right up until the TD. And the TD for Tone combined with a Win can make him happy.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Maybe santonio is just tired
with the OC calling moronic plays that gives sanchez no options to throw to WRs, he wants to contend… and to do so is to get thrown balls… Schotty needs to call schemes that make sense… runs set up play action that gives space to WRs/TEs….
Im sure there have been many arguments over the playcalling…
I really think Tone is not happy with the playcalling from Schotty
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Tell him to join the club
I’m surprised it has taken so long for players to start losing confidence in the OC
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by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Who was Sanchez saying "F.U." to with a 1:01 left in the game.
It looked like 22, Pool. But, No matter how many times I did a rewind, I can’t tell.
my GF caught that
I think sanchez was actually trying to critisize and help the D out with some Tips, and maybe some of these guys just didnt want to hear it…
This game to me
Was a perfect encapsulation of Mark Sanchez. Bad decision making, iffy accuracy, but coming up big in the end (while rolling out, surprise surprise). I’m not happy, but I’ll take it. Its better than the alternative
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by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 4:45 PM EST reply actions
Jets post game ripped Rex for his Sanchez comments
And rightfully so. Sanchez did not have a great game.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
I agree with everything they are saying
I love that as much as they love the Jets, they tell it like it is. I liked how they said Rex can’t keep lying about Sanchez or he will lose the respect of the fans. Spot on comment.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Nov 27, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
Rex has trouble balancing having his players backs and telling it like it is. I don’t think it helps anyone, Mark least of all, to have his coach whitewashing his flaws.
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by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'm really glad Stevie Johnson dropped that one at the end
Not just because we won, but because I thought his Plaxico TD dance was in very poor taste. Classless move.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
Totally classless
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Nov 27, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yea really
I mean plenty of people copy the flight crew dance, but mock shooting himself? Totally poor move. Plax got the last laugh though
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
He did indeed!
A lot of karma at play there both with his catch and stevie’s drop.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Nov 27, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
maybe next year
The jets can mock him. Have someone throw an easy ball, and drop it.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
by jetsbill on Nov 27, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+100
Well said
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
by jetsbill on Nov 27, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
This
nothing wrong with mocking tone’s celebration.But the Plax thing was just awful
Proud member of the fire Brian Schottenheimer club
"Grunt and Punt offense"
"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
"Planing for Manning"
by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 27, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
at the end of the day, he's on a losing team
he got his.
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And he lost the game for them
That’s the beauty of it.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Nov 27, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Plax got the last laugh
King Kong Ain't Got Shit On Me- Denzel Washington
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right? - Omar Little
Two young guns I am loving - not just their play, their energy
and who I expected nothing from:
McKnight, Maybin
MAYBIN!
im liking this guy now, he didnt show much throughout the preseason, but his pass rushing is comming thru on games that matter…just goes to show that DC and the crew knos how to work on strenghts,,,
too bad OC doesnt have that talent….
adding...
…speed to the LB corps. If the LB/DE’s could hold contain a little better? I am thinking how bad the starting safeties are too, but my first suggestion remains with firing OC B.S./Q.B. Coach M. C. and drafting another OT. Actually there are many upgrades in order for next year in what I feel will be a much better season.
Indeed
I thought the run game was going pretty well, and I love watching McKnight in space. As for Mayhem, he looked like he was starting to diversify his moveset without much success but I love the speed rush
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Cincy, Titans win, so....
if broncos lose then we bump up to the 8th position….
lol too bad titans pulled one away cuz we woulda been right behind Cincy…
Right now, we're in 7th
We’re ahead of Tennessee right now due to Strength of Schedule.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
eh???
but tenesse has a better conference record…
Tennessee is 4-4
Jets are 5-5
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/conferenceRank/order/false
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Schein: Cro was back there because Leonhard was momentarily injured.
(listen to the press conference – lol)
what worries me is that this team had 10 days to prepare
against a below average team with their best offensive player out.
And they looked horrible, had to have spectacular catches, and then huge drops by the other team, to barely squeak out a win at home.
So glad they won, but really? Like this? 10 days and this is what you came up with.
We don't have the greatest record with extra time
but totally agreed. That is definitely on the coaching staff though. It wasn’t just poor execution, although that was a huge problem. The gameplanning was shaky and neither side of the ball was consistent. The consistent lack of consistency in gameplanning has to be on Rex and the coordinators
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
holy crap. I blinked, and it's now 14 - 10 New England.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Ground and Pound????
I’m this has been discussed elsewhere but why did we keep moving away from the run game and throwing on first down. I didn’t see the run versus pass on the first down but we were pounding the ball with Green and McNight and yet we continued to throw and then it was three and out. We were manhandling their line and yet we kept getting away from the run when we were averaging stupid numbers. Also no doubt Sanchez looks skittish out there but the receivers are not getting seperation most of the time and he is having to constantly throw into coverage. Ugly win but I would have taken the ugly win against Denver. Defense is weak but they have player issues – the offense should be better with the players on that side of the ball.
by gusdad on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
more B.S...
… I think the players put this game on themselves. It appeared to me to be something good happened out there today in spite of the 2 turnovers,shotty play calling and all the motivation an opponent could provide(see WR S.Johnson poor judgement as quoted by an even worse fossil C. Gaily).
A win is a win, and thats all we need.
A win like this can propel a run at any moment. and that game winning drive by mark is a boost for him. we’ll see what happens soon.
He was...
…anything but perfect but was “on the Mark” when it counted most. “Great Win”, but it should not even have been this close(IMO).
Revis in interview
sounds like he was passing off to Leonhard on the late wide open pass that Johnson dropped. He says he wasn’t worried because Leonhard was coming down.
I think he meant pool.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
I put up screen shots
I think he meant Leonhard coming off his coverage (not by design), but it looks like Pool should have had the inside pass off:
both plays...
…First Revis backed off giving the play a chance(S. Johnson helped the entire team today), but the end of the game when B. Pool shows just how bad are (S) position is playing. I see possibly the worst pair of starting safeties in the league and Pool blew his assignment (if not for drops?). This game should not even have been this close! They will see how lucky they were to win it as they watch the film. They also seemed to become a “TEAM” today. We have yet to see full potential from all 3 phases, in any one game all year long.
BREAKING NEWS: F.U. COMMENT BY SANCHEZ MAY HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TO REX
theres a rumor out there that rex had said that “QB sanchez was the worst hes ever coached” with sanchez responding with a big F.U….
Is this true???
why does this sound like spam
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Nov 27, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
hey moron
i was just asking, i was on twitter and some people had been saying it…. does anyone have anything in contrary to this speculation??
Post speculation if you want, but if you make it personal, you’re out of here.
Founder of www.myspace.com
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 27, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
how?
how was i making it personal? did u read what i wrote? gimmie a break man, if this is a site to post, then wheres the freedom of speech?
someone just posted that i “go somewhere else with that BS” and all of the sudden im wrong for resposnding? is this a mickey mouse forum or a site to express ideas about the Jets? we are all adults here, and if ppl can dish out such kinds of comments then they should be able to take it…
Bob…. as mike ditka would say “stop it”
You made it personal by flinging insults
He just called what you said BS, nothing personal there. Stop ranting about freedom of speech while you insult people
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Nov 27, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Calling a fellow GGNer a "moron" is never acceptable
Spin it however you want, you’re still wrong. Grow up and get over it. You want to keep questioning it, fine, send me an email. But don’t bother trying to make yourself seem like some sort of noble defender of freedom of speech.
Founder of www.myspace.com
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 27, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
so i ask a question
and someone responds hostile towards me, and i am in the wrong? seriously man, this is a joke, i was only asking a question, and someone initiated, trying to make it seem as if i am dummy for asking… im not on a self righteous horse or anything, but i never made it personal… whatever, this forum is as unfair as NFL officals if they you dont see it…
im here to talk info on jets, not duke it out…
Thank you
thats all i wanted, some kind of confirmation
i think it's foolish to speculate that REX a pro-player coach would bad-mouth a player.
Especially one of his own players that he made captain…
so now i am foolish as well?
lol…. semantics…. see if i respond to this then i am wrong… lol, whatever man, i just wanted some outside info on this….
im not even gonna respond to this
I didn't mean to say you where foolish at all.
But if you took it that way, my bad.
by jets4life24 on Nov 27, 2011 5:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We...
…do not play games here! Do not be critical of anyone or this site in anyway, we do not play kids games here. If that’s your intentions you will be asked to leave. If however you are coming to bring something to the party we will all welcome you with open arms.
lol i agree
i guess he was referring to when he was on practice squads as DC for ravens
its like calling your only child your least favorite
Rex knows Sanchez is his QB for his reign as Jets head coach so he probably doesn’t really want to burn that bridge. if he did say something my guess it was most likely his way of motivation – like the reports of Brunell taking snaps at practice.
Motivate the right way then...
If rex wants to motivate, maybe they should sign a QB that could threaten sanchez’s starting role… u really think hes worried about 60 yr old brunell taking over? my guess if nah, hes breathing easy….
OC schotty needs to get some fire under his butt… maybe hire a new assistant assistant OC that might take his job…
by JragonEyez on Nov 27, 2011 5:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Callahan used to be an OC in Oakland when gannon was QB for them.
by jets4life24 on Nov 27, 2011 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
sounds like a plan
I’d make Callahan OC and Gannon QB coach in a heartbeat.
The funny thing is that I actually like Schotty and think that getting fired might be the best thing, long term, for his career. The guy seems like a workaholic who needs a break to realize that he needs to spend less time preparing and more time adjusting to both the strengths of his personnel and the weaknesses of the defense.
by square1 on Nov 27, 2011 6:57 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
Run vs Pass
Agreed about Schotty. So glad for the win, but there’s no way we should have had to pass for four scores. How about running the ball a bit more, especially around the goal line? The one drive where the run got us basically the whole way down there, then once we get close to the 10 (and eventually inside it), we decide to pass the ball like 4 times in a row!!
I can’t really think of any reason or excuse for running the ball as few times as we did when it was working so well. Those four passing scores definitely cover up how poor Sanchez’ day mostly was. I’ll just hope that looking back at having 4 TDs will get our QB on a roll that we desperately need.
Maybe that comeback drive gives him a boost.
He usually begins to heat up towards the end of the season, greene too. I want him to feast on Washington and KC.
by jets4life24 on Nov 28, 2011 3:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
S.D. is ...
…OT with Denver after getting Tebowed in the 4th. Jet fans are rooting for S.D. as we beat them head to head and well,we all still fill the sting of getting Tebowed @ mile high.
Funny thing with Sanchez...
I’m not saying this was his best game statistically but there was one obvious and one hidden thing that he did well. We all know he threw for a personal best 4 TDs which was an obvious positive. Now for the hidden positive…someone actually used the hidden positive as a negative and didn’t realize it was a positive mixed with a negative…they pointed out he wasn’t very accurate and he only seemed to get the ball to guys that were basically wide open in the end zone. Now I don’t know if they realized it but it seems that this was actually one of the knocks on Sanchez…trying to squeeze the ball in where there are a bunch of defenders on a player and missing the open guy. He didn’t do it the whole game but he did it enough in this game to help get to some of those scores. When Buffalo messed up in coverage Sanchez found Keller open. Hopefully that’s progress. Again this isn’t to say Sanchez had a great all around game or doesn’t need some work on his game…it’s just a little positve in the win that some people may have not noticed or realized.
The Pats D is horrible between the 20's
But inside the red zone they are one of the best and as a result they are top 10 in points allowed. I doubt they’ll trip up against these lesser teams due to their defense.
by J-Nasty on Nov 28, 2011 1:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions
What the hell was up with Revis today
Worst game I’ve ever seen him play, looked totally disinterested. And can we please never have Cro return another kick? It’s not worth it.
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