Are the New York Jets Ignoring Tangible On Field Performance Too Much in Player Evaluations?
by John B on Nov 22, 2011 7:40 PM EST
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Intangibles are a great thing for a player to have. It is also a good thing to have quality people in the locker room. The most important personnel ingredient for a successful football team, though, is pure talent. When looking at some of the moves the Jets have made in recent years, one cannot help but wonder whether they emphasize this enough.
Example A is Kerry Rhodes. Rhodes had a disappointing 2009 with the Jets, but he finished strong. This included a monster game against San Diego in the Divisional round of the Playoffs. He was solid in coverage. He also had eight tackles and a huge sack. The Jets probably would not have won without him. He also had a pair of Pro Bowl snubs early in his career. The Jets sold low on him after that relatively disappointing 2009, shipping him to Arizona for virtually nothing. The Jets hinted that he was a locker room problem. People tended to take it at face value. I asked then the same question I ask now. Why? Was Rhodes' attitude such a problem that he had to be sent out of town for nothing? We all know about his flaws tackling, but he was a great talent. He wasn't enough of a problem to keep the team from reaching the AFC Championship Game that year. It sure seemed like his play came on as he got more comfortable with the system. Dealing with problem players is a subjective thing. The coaching staff seemed to view him as more trouble than he was worth. The Jets sure could use a safety with his attributes now.
Example B is Braylon Edwards. I think people might go a bit overboard talking about the kind of player Braylon is, but it is clear he was a good fit in the Jets offense. The team did not show any real interest in keeping him after an arrest and reports he was a diva in the locker room. I can understand that. I would have had real reservations about the Jets giving him a longterm deal. The thing is he did not end up getting a longterm contract. He got next to nothing as a free agent. Perhaps he would have felt so slighted that he would not have accepted a "Prove It" contract from the Jets, but his career is about making money. The Jets probably could have afforded his eventual price range easily with a no risk contract. It would have made sense. Mark Sanchez and he developed good chemistry. The Jets could have even added Plaxico Burress as well. Plaxico could have been eased into the lineup and shaken off his rust in practice, getting snaps in three receiver sets with Santonio Holmes moving to the slot. This would have been a different offense. I think part of the reason the deep ball has gone away is that there is no Braylon to run past defenders. The Jets seem reluctant to use Holmes that way, and Burress' game is not about running past people. It is about winning contested balls. It is difficult to expect a quarterback who has been ordered to not make mistakes to just throw it up to Burress. Like many others, I stated at the time that the Jets should try and find a way to keep the receivers Sanchez was comfortable with since the team was trying to develop him into a quality quarterback.
Exhibit C is Eric Smith. At the end of last season, as Brodney Pool got more comfortable with the defense, he became a playmaker. He was the best safety on the team by the end of the year. Now he barely sees the field in the base defense because Smith somehow became the starter for reasons nobody can quantify. Smith has allowed more yards in coverage than any safety in the NFL. The defense of the move seems to the be the inquantifiable, "He makes sure there are no mental errors on the defense," even though there have been plenty of mental errors by Smith alone this season. Smith leads the team in tackles, but the number of tackles per game from the safety position is about the same as it was a year ago. Smith is just taking away somebody else's tackles with his increased playing time. For all the talk of his play against the run, the Jets have a worse run defense than they did a year ago. Whenever stories about Smith come out, we hear a lot about his advanced vocabulary and how much the coaching staff loves him. We also hear vague comments about how helpful he is, but we seldom get specifics on how he makes the team better because it really is not obvious.
I believe this question is fair game. There are some moves the Jets have made that do not make a ton of sense on paper. As much as the other stuff matters, tangibles are important too. What do you think?
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Rhodes was run out of town because Rex loved Jim Leonhard and favored his “Baltimore” guys just like Rhodes had said, personally i really liked Rhodes and to give him away for free after signing him to a big contract was mind boggling, Eric Smith STINKS, nothing this guy does shows me anything other than that, they say hes smart but i have seen idiotic personal fouls,blown coverages and assignments from him and very little else, if hes so great in Run support where was he when Tebow ran right passed him? CUT THIS FOOL NOW!!!! …about Braylon, I’ve always stated how we shouldve kept Bray and let Holmes walk, hes a big guy that seemed to put his drops behind him in Cleveland, he was a great team player and always seemed to make at least 1 or 2 big plays every game, i havent seen that production from Plax this season nor have i really seen Plax extend himself to make a play on a bad Sanchez pass, Plax always seems to be falling away from the ball whereas Bray would be trying his hardest to get the ball…really some headscratching decisions by the front office this year..and BTW, SIGN KYLE ORTON!!!! Sanchez needs a push
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
could not agree more with this post .the jets fo is the reason we r not champs this year or last year can u image the chemistry on this D an whole team if rhodes stayed paired with pool playing ss during last year playoff run lowery in dime packages an not trading lowery this season to go with the devolopment of k.wilson then on O like u said holmes with bray mixed in with plex an how kerley has turned out yea i think we would have a SQUAD TO MESS WITH
Braylon and Kerry haven't done much of anything since leaving
Rhodes was ok last year and invisible/hurt this year, and Braylon hasn’t done anything in San Fran. The issue isn’t overlooking character problems in the face of great on-field play, because Rhodes and Braylon aren’t great players who you overlook issues for, the issue is not being able to replace replaceable players adequately.
they are not great players but the team didn't upgrade with their replacements
In fact the Jets downgraded with their replacements, so please explain further the meaning of your post
by BIG OH!!!!! on Nov 22, 2011 9:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
agreed
Rhodes replaced by Eric Smith is just awful and Plax hasnt done anything “better” than Braylon did, actually Bray was much more of “baller” than Plax and never shys away from contact and tryied to get extra yards on every play, i constantly see Plax slide down after he catches a ball and a defender is close to making a tackle, he never gets extra yards
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
I don't know
I think you’re right, in that Braylon, was more of a baller. On the other hand I think Plax has been a little more physical then I had expected.
by Clarke W. Griswald on Nov 22, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
a perfect example would be when Bray caught that TD pass vs the Pats, he dragged 2 defenders 10 yards into the endzone, if Plax caught that pass he wouldve curled up
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
Yeah I miss Braylon and the deep ball...
by RhodesRocks on Nov 22, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
who doesn't
Mcelroy is better than Sanchez
He also had a tendency to drop the ball.
Better at the deep catch than Plax, but Plax is better in the endzone. Plus Sanchez just isn’t throwing deep this year because of a lack of protection (and the lack of brain cells in Schotty’s brain)
by ________key on Nov 22, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Schotty doesn't have a brain I think you over-evaluated him
Mcelroy is better than Sanchez
(wait, I think I see another screen pass to a hands-of-stone RB, off of a triple reverse direct snap! ….genius. genius I say!)
by ________key on Nov 22, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
see what I mean Schotty is frickin idiot
John B is amazing
Braylon was hurt most of this year
He Just returned to SF. Mark was comfortable with him and both him and Holmes were a pair that worked when we had to pull out games last year. They complemented each other, unlike Plax and Holmes. That is one reason why Holmes production has been down this year.
Agree
I agree with everything you’re saying. The moves were baffling. I was fearful we wouldn’t sign Pool. Then we dumped Lowery. This isn’t a hindsight is 20/20 thing either. We all saw it. We could barely cover the middle of the field last year and then dumped arguably their best cover guy at the position against the TE.
I hope this year is taking a step back in order to take 2 forward. Truthfully, I love Bart and Leonhard, but we need some more athletes on D. Bart clogs the gaps and does some good things but he gets paid too much at his position not to be playing on passing downs, not getting any sacks, missing tackles and getting spun around in space. ETC…..
by Doug Jolly on Nov 22, 2011 8:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Good stuff.
I really can’t understand the Smith over Pool move. At all. But they seemed to have made the switch, so hopefully we see Brodney getting more snaps when he gets healthy.
I was fully behind the bouncing of Rhodes. But it seems the professional decision would have been to keep him around for at least another year. Dude had talent. And like that dude up above said, a Rhodes/Pool tandem would be pretty freakin sweet right now.
Not sure what couldve been about Braylon though. Seemed like he wanted Holmes money, and when Holmes got the nod he seemed hell bent on leaving. Can’t sign a guy that doesn’t want to be here. Seems rational that Bray wouldve stayed in a familiar situation if the money was equal. But Braylon wasn’t behaving rationally at the time of negotiation, so its hard to believe he wouldve accepted anything but top dollar fron the Jets.
by Crackback on Nov 22, 2011 8:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I agree with this..^^^
Except I think there is a good chance if we gave Edwards a Plax type contract (Which is about 3 times what he gets played in SF) He would have stayed here. Moving across the entire country for 1/3 the money just wouldn’t make sense I don’t care how pissed you are. He wasn’t getting any offers at all if he takes the triple money for one year and has a better year with Sanchez and he being more comfortable then if he really wants out he sings a bigger long term deal somewhere else when there is a bit more interest in him.
by RhodesRocks on Nov 22, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
The irony of Rhodes
is that as much as people complained about him, we now have a polar opposite starting in Smith (big hitter, can’t cover anybody) and nobody seems happy.
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That has more to do with his replacement, Pool, not playing
We’d be a lot happier I think if Eric wasn’t the one getting all the snaps, surely. Also we probably wouldn’t be sucking quite as much.
All in all though, we’re still an elite defense. Putting in Brodney over Eric is worth maybe a field goal to a touchdown a game, which is significant, but it’s not as significant as an improvement on offense would be.
by Exystence on Nov 23, 2011 11:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rex just didn't like Rhodes, and he has the exact opposite feelings towards Smith
and I feel it has harmed the team horribly. I think Smith has always been an inferior safety. He makes serious mistakes, he can’t cover, he is horrible tackling. There’s nothing good about him tangible or not unless you want someone who hits hard sometimes, he should be on special teams.
I think you make a good point about the Jets being too closed to re-signing Braylon even though he was a good fit. If we had just kept our options open we could have had him on the cheap. I will say though, in terms of tangible on field production, I’m pretty impressed with Plaxico in terms of separation and blocking. Seems like he’s the only guy on offense doing anything. But if you look at both of their salaries if we had played our cards differently it would have been possible to have both for good money.
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I wonder how much Rex likes Smith now
since that inside route and the Tebow blow-by basically tanked the season.
by ________key on Nov 22, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
You know, as much as I love Plaxico
I miss Braylon even more.
And another move that REALLY made me scratch my head was trading away Dwight Lowery. I loved that dude man, and I thought he could have been one HELL of a free safety. If anything, they should have traded away Eric Smith and kept Lowery.
+1000000000000000000000
the Lowery trade was stupid, i would much rather have him back there than Smith
"The message to the rest of the league is, hey, the Jets are coming, and we're going to give you everything we got. And I think that's going to be more than you can handle"
Agreed, and good points
Braylon was a playmaker, so was Lowery. So was Rhodes for that matter. I do like Smith laying the wood in the secondary because we lack intensity on this defense, but he is a liability in coverage and now he’s getting a rep for blowing assignments.
Yeah, what gives with Pool? I like the OP and rec’d that shit
by nationalist88 on Nov 22, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Many of these moves can be tied to 1 thing...
$$$ MONEY $$$
I have posted on GGN a bunch of times & many of these posts exclaim my theory of WHY? Why are we a cheapskate team now when there’s salary cap room to work with and talent discarded or ignored? Your post ignores this major issue.
Rhodes got dumped b/c of that big contract. If he were still on his rookie deal, it would have been him instead of Smith missing that tackle on Tebow. Edwards wasn’t re-signed b/c we didn’t want to give him a long-term deal but then we went & gave Cro the deal Braylon wanted; Why? 4yrs $28M for Cro is still less then 1/2 of the Asomugha deal.
Smitty is the kind of player that would run thru a brick wall & say “thank you sir, may I have another?” but at a cheap price tag/locker room presence, lack of true talent can be overlooked in part b/c where really was the better option? Lowery? We all hated that guy until late last year & what exactly has he, Rhodes or Braylon done since leaving?
The real shame is that by saving all of this cash, we didnt acquire ANY vet help along the D-line or depth on the O-line, while the Patriots acquired both and dominated us on the line of scrimmage during the biggest game of the year.
Sorry for the longest post ever, just had to vent. ($1,125 worth of tickets left that I can’t give away helps that anger along as well)
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by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 22, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
hey why don't you give everyone on ganggreennation a ticket so we can form our own section
Mcelroy is better than Sanchez
That's the whole point...
That ridiculous amount of $$ is only 3 extra tickets to the remaining 3 games and they can’t F**king sign Brian Waters for $2mil? We should never have more then 3-4M in cap room, EVER.
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by Kendrick Jay on Nov 22, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Weatherford and Feely, ya ya laugh now, Special teams is very important. I fly from Nova Scotia to see Nick Folk miss a chip shot against the Pats, I was in the F;n 2nd row.
But really conley is awful
by Kickersarepeopletoo on Nov 22, 2011 10:31 PM EST reply actions
Smith
Now he can add “I got Tebowed” to his vocabulary……
maybe he'll add "I suck" to his vocabulary
Mcelroy is better than Sanchez
Football Outsiders stats Edwards vs. Plax this year
in 5 games (injured knee Sept 18th)
Edwards -15% DVOA, 27 passes, 167 yards, 0 TDs, 48% catch rate
in 10 games
Plaxico – 5.8 DVOA, 67 passes, 425 yards, 6 TDs, 45% catch rate
SF has the 9th best pass offense DVOA
Jets have the 19the best pass offense DVOA
Clearly this is the other side of the story. This kind of thing is why I’m glad they didn’t give Braylon huge money. At the same time, I wonder whether things might have been different had he stayed in New York with a quarterback he had developed good chemistry with. I think adding him to a three receiver set with Plaxico and Holmes makes this a different offense. Admittedly, the offensive line, the quarterback, and the play calling might hold them back.
I guess my issue isn’t so much losing Edwards. It’s about losing Edwards when it probably would have cost next to nothing to keep him around.
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I doubt it.
They say Braylon was a little envious of Santonio and felt that he should get the bigger contract than him cause he was a better receiver. So Braylon wanted 10 million+ like Holmes and the jets said hell no, here you go, take this or leave… And he left. If the jets offered him 5-8 million per for a few years, Braylon is a retard.
John,
Honestly there are two things BE did better than PB. The Deep sideline route (which Sanchez does not throw this year probably not because BE is gone), and run block. Of the two only the blocking I miss.
It really comes more down to Kerley vs Edwards (forgetting the Mason experiment which was another chemistry disaster). I like what Kerley is doing. I wouldn’t rather have BE as part of a 3 receiver set.
I liked Edwards. And was not up on the Plax signing. But I think Edwards’ time in the NFL is on the down swing and honestly Plax has really helped the red zone. He has surprised me.
by ________key on Nov 23, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Admittedly this is flawed analysis since we are dependent on getting a replay from the backfield, but I do think Edwards’ absence has something to do with the lack of the deep ball this year. I can remember many times where Sanchez was looking in Burress’ direction on something vertical then didn’t pull the trigger. I don’t think it’s just the blocking or play calling.
The thing I would have loved to see is Holmes in the slot against nickels in three receiver sets, which generally would have been a mismatch and given Sanchez some easy completions. Long term, getting Kerley these reps probably is the best thing for him.
Anyway I think I’ve made my points so I’ll gracefully bow out of this discussion. You argued your points well, key.
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im pretty sure
that there are things that eric smith does that we dont care to notice or appreciate but rex, petitne, denise see something in him that they like and therefore makes him a good player cause rex is always gonna play the best he has
Hindsight is 20/20 , but let's not re-write history.
Braylon wanted the same or more more than Holmes, and they were both not getting that kind of money. You can argue whether it would have been better to keep Edwards over Holmes but you were not getting both. And the league was not busting down Braylon’s door after the Jets let him loose. SF was the only offer on the table, and the Jets had already moved on by then. If he had taken the same money to play for the Jets, we would probably be reading about his off the field issues and locker room lawyering and contract gripes. As someone else said, he’s not burning up the field in SF and he won’t hit any of his incentives..
Rhodes isn’t distinguishing himself in Arizona either. For those of you who may not remember, he used to get killed as well for getting beat in coverages because he didn’t know or learn the defensive schemes and Rex had it with him, even thought he gave him a great vote of confidence and looked to him to be a leader. If you can’t remember that far back just go back to the beginning of this year. Rhodes was the safety who was supposed to be the deep help on Cam Newton’s 80+ yd touchdown and he was 15 yards off the play trying to chase Smith down at the end. Some things never change. I’m not defending Smith at all – he should be cut yesterday. But Rhodes wasn’t the answer either.
Finally I think we should grab Orton and cut O’Connell. Then, when Brunell is let go at the end of the year we’ll see if Sanchez can hold onto the job with both Orton and McElroy pushing him. If nothing else, it puts the Jets in a better position if they want to trade Sanchez for draft picks next year and NOT draft a QB but go for a safety, O-line help or a stud pass rusher. As far as I’m concerned Orton and Sanchez are equivalent, but Orton would be better in this offense – he is certainly more accurate and look what he did in Denver before they traded away all their weapons. And this is not an endorsement of Schotty – he and Cavanaugh need to go. I’m talking about Rex’s philosophy of ground and pound, not Schotty’s half-assed implementation of it.
Sanchez is the right qb for this team considering everything else
A ground and pound team would thrive with a mobile play action qb like Sanchez. Problem is a Shotty offensive lin and lack of a big tough stud running back ala A PETERSON, D McFADDEN, R Rice. Someone versatile good between the tackles good in space and can catch the ball as well. With a legit threat like that behind him and a solid O line in front of him Sanchez could be a game breaker. But it’s seems we just stack the deck against him instead of giving him the chances to succeed.
Bargain basement O-line and new number two and three receivers with no off season camps this year. Very shallow depth at TE and RB and a OC who could scheme his way out of a paper bag.
Would have felt better if the Jets made Braylan am very public two year 7 million dollar deal and had him walk away from that. We could have had him, Tone and Plax.
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by MrBDown on Nov 23, 2011 1:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't agree, but we'll see how he does next year with a new OC and QB coach.
I’ll give him the benefit of that for another year. Of course, if either Schotty or Cavanaugh is back – or both, in the worst case – then nothing is going to change next year except some of the players.
by Traveling Man on Nov 23, 2011 7:54 AM EST up reply actions
Braylon wanted the same or more more than Holmes, and they were both not getting that kind of money. You can argue whether it would have been better to keep Edwards over Holmes but you were not getting both. And the league was not busting down Braylon’s door after the Jets let him loose. SF was the only offer on the table, and the Jets had already moved on by then. If he had taken the same money to play for the Jets, we would probably be reading about his off the field issues and locker room lawyering and contract gripes.
That is all pure speculation.
As someone else said, he’s not burning up the field in SF and he won’t hit any of his incentives..
There is absolutely no guarantee that he would have gotten injured if he had stayed with the Jets. Btw, whether he’s tearing up the field or not, they’re winning and almost a lock for the division. I hate when people try to bring up his play or injury because it’s flawed logic.
Sanchez can hold onto the job with both Orton and McElroy pushing him.
I think we should grab Orton as a backup, but I think the last thing we need is a QB controversy to destabilize and further destroy the confidence of our QB when he’s clearly imo not the main reason for our offensive struggles this year.
Of course it's speculation.
Braylon’s in a different system, and he probably would not have gotten hurt and had a better year here. But there is no disputing the facts that he wanted the same deal as Holmes, at least money wise, and that no team in the league. even those with huge receiver problems during training camp, wanted him, which speaks volumes as to his rep around the league. SF in the end was the only one that did. And what should be noted is that the 49er’s are where they are because they ARE following Rex’s formula – run the ball with a stud back, like Thomas Jones was for us 2 years ago; play stifling, opportunistic defense; and use a controlled passing game with a QB who stays within himself.
by Traveling Man on Nov 23, 2011 7:46 AM EST up reply actions
you're exactly right that they're following Rex's formula
partially because they have the pieces and talent to do so. It’s a talented team and they finally have a coach that utilizes it. Shonne Greene however is not Frank Gore and Keller at least up til now is not Vernon Davis. Crabtree and Braylon is a pretty awesome combo as well. We also don’t have a Patrick Willis.
Anyway yes he probably wanted the same deal as Holmes, but the logic is that you’ll take whatever money you can get at the end. And if we offered just a little more than SF, I think we could’ve had him. All this talk about his rep and what not is unsubstantiated and there could be many other reasons why he didn’t get announced offers from other teams.
Btw, whether he’s tearing up the field or not, they’re winning and almost a lock for the division.
So Edwards gets credit for being a non-productive receiver on winning team? Somehow he is making them win from the sideline????
by ________key on Nov 23, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
my point was he's not negatively impacting his team
whether you see it in the numbers or not. That team is built on even more ball control than the Jets are and they’re executing it far better. Braylon not getting the same kind of numbers isn’t really a testament or an indication of a decrease or lack of ability on his part.
What about OL?
This dismantling of the “best offensive line in football” to the present shambles is another case in point.
The only "Dismantling" was letting Woody walk.
4 of the 5 starters from last year are back. Faneca was at the end of his career – he only lasted one more season in Arizona and it was time to find a replacement. You could argue that Slausen has been the most consistent lineman all year. Mangold has missed some gamers and neither he nor Ferguson has looked like consistent All-Pros. The real problem as has been pointed out a gazillion times is Hunter and the lack of quality depth after Turner went down, which is squarely on the FO. O-lines depend on reps and training time, and I think the strike affected them as a unit more than anyone else. That being said, it is week 12 and they still don’t have their shit together, which is on them and Callahan.
by Traveling Man on Nov 23, 2011 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
Claim Orton - pressure #6
If FO says we are always trying to upgrade talent, then FO has to put in a claim for Orton. Orton with a chip on his shoulder could challenge #6. #6 does better with a legit threat behind him.
Would have loved to have had Braylon with Plax & Tone, but (1) Bray had legal issues AGAIN, (2)Bray seemed determine to get more $$ (which he didn’t) and (3) the three of them would have probably caused Receiver Diva issue’s just like washed up Mason did.
SMITH has got to go!!!! Should have given ‘Hollywood’ Rhodes 1 more year. I think he could have progressed & done well. Trading him was just a ‘new Sheriff in town’ type of move. Lowery move looks bad now, & Du-Curse drafting looks awful. Logic was there. Tanny just got wrong guy. Scouts have to take a hit.
That said – we’re going a run, making the playoffs as a wildcard and going to at least to AFC championship game. 3rd times the charm.
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Braylon got let go because of salary cap issues.
Pool was continuously fucking up assignments last year, causing a lot of miscommunications in the secondary. I think that’s why an inferior talent is playing.
It’s funny that this gets brought up, a year ago everyone was complaining that intangibles weren’t being valued enough, and that the chemistry of the locker room would get screwed.
Pool was sucking at FS, he started shaking out when he was moved to SS.
Did you notice that?
We already have a good SS, Leonhard.
We don’t need another one.
Agreed.
Here’s my 2 cents on the whole off season debacle…
First, we gave Holmes too much money, period. He’s a phenomenal #2 but it’s seems to be apparent that he can’t do without the help of a competent #1(or another really good #2). I would’ve given them both $8-9 million a piece with a backdoor option for character issues and let them prove which of the two is better, no suspensions, no injuries, a full season to put their stats where their mouths are(This may have worked as I think we still had around $8 million in cap space).
Secondly, it was a mistake trading Lowery, it should have been Smith that we got rid of. The Pool and Lowery combo was deadly at the end of last season and in playoffs, why we gave that for two ‘smart and scrappy’ guys is beyond me… As far as I’m concerned ‘smart and scrappy’ might as well be ‘slow and undersized’.
As for the Kerry thing, I’m clueless… Rhodes(and Lito for that matter) was panned for not being physical and avoiding contact, we then go and sign Cromartie. Granted, Cro has been MUCH better with contact and tackles since his Charger days but it still seemed slightly hypocritical… Like dumping Charlie Sheen for Bill Clinton.
/rant.
Not sure I follow that last sentence ._. but I think the whole thing with Cro is that he’s a good teammate.
by Exystence on Nov 23, 2011 2:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In terms of relationship material, neither Sheen or Clinton would be ideal for monogamy. With that said, Cro has made huge improvements in physicality since that ’09 playoff game against us… that, was embarrassing.
Since then, he seems to be having a relatively good season this year barring a few ‘Bad Cro’ moments.
thank you
where are all those people that were saying Holmes was going to be such a playmaker? I knew all along that he doesn’t fit well with this QB and this scheme. Braylon was a big target that could stretch the field. Why so many people couldn’t appreciate that is stunning.
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