Cornerback Approval Rating

by John B on Nov 2, 2011 1:58 PM EDT

This is an approval rating that could reach the stratosphere. We are now talking about the job New York Jets cornerbacks are doing.

2011 will likely go down as the season the great Nnamdi Asomugha-Darrelle Revis debate was settled. While Asomugha has been up and down with the Eagles, Revis is currently allowing a passer rating below 3 to quarterbacks throwing his way. There are just no words to describe Revis. He constantly dominates the best receivers in the NFL. He lines up everywhere. He excels playing in every type of coverage. He probably cannot claim the title of best ever at this point, but he will someday if he continues to dominate this way in a day and age where rules are designed to give receivers every advantage.

Antonio Cromartie is quietly putting up an excellent season across from Revis. Cro's hiccups have been noticable, but aside from those few, he has been really good. There have been penalty problems, but at least half of those calls against him look suspect.

Kyle Wilson has emerged after a rough rookie season as a rock solid nickel.

Even with the up and down Donald Strickland below these guys on the depth chart, how could anybody not approve of these corners? You have to go four deep before you find a guy not playing at an extremely high level.

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Do you approve of the job New York Jets cornerbacks are doing?

Yes

803 votes

No

31 votes

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I disagree...

Revis IS the bestest evah!!!

by Crackback on Nov 2, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions

I demand explanations for all who vote nay.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 2, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions

Probably people from other teams.
For BR’s recent Chan Gailey approval poll, 3270/3299 voted approve. Whilst 12/3299 voted disapprove.

by NordicBillsfan on Nov 2, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Most likely. You guys should create a thread over here.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 2, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions

The Ask-a-Bills-Fan thread?

by NordicBillsfan on Nov 2, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 2, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

I was thinking exactly the same thing

by Jabualj on Nov 2, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Cromartie

Jets fans have been absolutely spoiled by Revis, so we expect every corner to never give up more than 1 catch per game. Every other corner in the league, even the best ones, get burned fairly regularly. CB is probably the hardest position in the league, and Revis is head, shoulders, and chest above everyone else. Cro gets beat sometimes, but no more or less than many other CB’s.

David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.

by wrightHOF on Nov 2, 2011 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs

yep

Cro is not on Revis’ level but he is pretty darn good and I’m glad we have him on our team. this year has been pretty bad for “phantom” defensive holding calls and Cro has been victimized by this quite a few times at key moments in games and it wasnt even his fault…Im more than happy with Revis,Cro and Wilson as our 3 starters

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by AFCxxBEAST on Nov 2, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

I've been saying this for over a year now

although not as well said as you. We don’t realize how lucky we are. Put Cro with almost any other CB in the league, and they don’t throw towards HIM.

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by CharlieIsles on Nov 2, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Cro also gets screwed with questionable,borderline,bullshit calls by the Refs who should be looked into

for violating the RICO act.

by Putnan Prince on Nov 2, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Disagree. Nobody is driven to madness by Kyle Wilson. Why is that?

Cro is terribly inconsistent. And when he’s not very good, he’s very very bad. At this point, I’m convinced that he commits a PI on every single play. So many times plays are replayed that show Cro with a handful of jersery or a guy’s arm and it goes uncalled. Now when he gets called for phantom penalties, I just figure its karma. He gets away with waaayyy more than what he gets called for.

And then there’s the times when he’s just terrible in coverage. Whether he inexplicably loses Marshall in the end-zone, gets burned on a vanilla skinny post while playing off coverage against Garcon in the playoffs, he’s getting burned for clutch first downs… Cro isn’t very good.

Kyle shares the field with Revis, and he’s much more exposed than Cro, yet he doesn’t seem to get burned… ever. Dude is always right with his man. And when he gives up a catch, he brings the guy down immediately.

How come I never wanted to punch Kyle in the face?

by Crackback on Nov 2, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions

All I'm saying is

I watch a lot of football – I’m talking just about every game, every week. I’m sure I’m not alone in that here. Every week, probably about 20 to 25 defenses give up big plays where they let people go WIDE open, like 15 yards behind any defender open. And that happens two to three times per game.

The Jets don’t have plays like that. Cromartie doesn’t get burned like that. Does he hold? Yes. Does every CB in the league hold? Yes.

Watch every other CB in the league. None of them play as much man as we do, and none of them get as little help as Revis/Cro do on the outside. And yet they get burnt much less. It’s a lot easier to look good when you can sit in zone all the time like most other teams do – what the Jets ask their CB’s to do is much harder than that.

And Kyle is less maddening because he’s a 2nd year guy playing nickel back. Put him where Cro is and there’s NO evidence he’d be substantially better.

David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.

by wrightHOF on Nov 3, 2011 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions

Yes he does

Cromartie doesn’t get burned like that.

That’s people’s problem, he’s terrible inconsistent. When you play great one game and horrible the next, you are mediocre. CB made the point that Wilson isn’t an erratic box of chocolates like Cro is, and that’s off a fraction of the league experience Cro has.

I think we all watch a lot of football. If you do as much as you say, you know full well Cro has major issues in coverage, tackling, holding and PI. He takes plays or entire series off and I have about a dozen gifs of him just not participating in the defense.

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by Bro Namath on Nov 3, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Completely

agree. Love Revis, Wilson, and Cro.

by Shane H on Nov 2, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions

I would be perfectly fine if Cro disappeared

by J-Nasty on Nov 2, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions

You hate kids,right.

by Putnan Prince on Nov 2, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Revis Island

Revis IS already one of the best CBs to ever play the game. When his career is over, he will go down as the BEST CB to EVER play the game.

by JetRoyalty on Nov 2, 2011 3:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

tough to argue that – he’s frickin awesome

by J2 on Nov 2, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Cro is in a position to fail weather we like it or not.

He’s gonna see more balls as a result of the GOAT that plays on the other hash. It was always gonna be feast or famine with him and for the most part any other player that would have been given the #2 responsibilities had he have not come back.
I agree with the idea that Rex had with him.
Cro is a natural freak who can make unnatural plays at any given time. I would rather have Cro on this team than 95% of the other CB’s in the league.
He’s gotta stop with the PI’s though. Or at least let up a little. But still, with him we are the best in the league against the pass.
It may be ugly but it works.

by Can'tWait on Nov 2, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions

Well that's a little ridiculous

Saying you want him above 95% of the other CBs says that he’s better than 95% of the other CBs in the league, which is just silly. Unless you prefer inferior talent.

by J-Nasty on Nov 3, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions

there are what 160-192 CBs in the league( 5-6 per team)

5% would be 8-9. while I might not say I would take him over the top 10 but in that next ten, he’s right there. He is better than 90% of the CBs.And his talent and skills are superior to almost all CBs, (speed, strength and size). Its his technique and consistency that is questionable. But it is getting better. I have watched Nmamdi and Webster and Mcourty and others that are supposed to be in that better group not look any better than Cro this year.

by george JETson on Nov 3, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions

Actually your number is dead on

The NFL had 195 players that registered some sort of stat at CB in the 2010 season. That puts my statement at just under 10 CB’s that are easily better than Cro. I don’t think I was that off by making that statement. I agree in part with you. Cro can be argued into 10-15 area.

by Can'tWait on Nov 3, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions

I guess that's fair

To be very honest I think there might actually be 12-15 corners I’d take over Cro. 20 is a pretty big stretch though. They certainly wouldn’t have Cro’s upside or physical attributes but consistency is what I’m after when I say I’d take a cheaper less-known CB to replace him.

It’s not so much that I would replace Cro as promote Wilson as I’m very confident in Kyle playing the outside.

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by Bro Namath on Nov 3, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions

I would love Wilson to prove with his in that aspect.

But to my original point. Who ever the second CB on this team might be, he’s still going to get abused. And more than likely, he’s gonna look bad as a result. And that includes just about any other CB playing this game right now.
Teams gameplan on how to attack Cro more than any other spot on the field. And It’s just gonna get worse as Wilson progresses.
The mental and physical taxing he goes through is probably immense. He’s targeted all day long.
How bout this for a thought:
Last year Rex’s idea would have been to replace Cro with Nnamdi. A some-what proven “shutdown corner” that could handle all the attention he would undoubtably get.
I on the other hand have really looked at Cro’s performance the last 2 years and wondered if his problems are due to mental lapse and conditioning.
Why not Promote Wilson when the time is right and split his snaps at #2 with another solid but not great cover corner?
It’s the teams next logical step. Start taking a few reps away from Cro and give them to Wilson to see if he can handle “every snap” duties. In the end you may make Cro better by giving him a chance to reset on the sideline in the middle of drives.

by Can'tWait on Nov 3, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions

*to prove himself

by Can'tWait on Nov 3, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions

That's the thing

I feel like workload might be what causes the inconsistency. I do see him taking plays off. Maybe if he were spelled every few plays freshness would help him capture his form.

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by Bro Namath on Nov 5, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions