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How I Would Fix the Jets

With that loss, things start to get very murky for our playoff hopes. There is still a chance we can pull out a miracle run, but I'm not counting on it. We need help in a lot of places, from the coaches on down to the QB. Where should I start?

 

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Coaching:

The Best way to send a message is to fire someone. The 1st person on the chopping block is Mr. Shotty. This offense has gotten worse the last 3 years. This falls squarely on Shotty's shoulders. Shotty's firing will send a clear message to the offense that things need to change or this is what happens. I don't think the Jets should go outside of the organization for his replacement. I would look to our O-line coach, Bill Callahan.

QB: 

Mark shouldn't get off scott free. I don't want him fired. I want him pressured. With only Brunell in there to challenge Mark's job, there is no pressure. We can change this right away by drafting another QB. The guy I would look for is Nick Foles out of Arizona. He is a large pocket passer, with a big arm. Depending on how bad we finish, he should be available in the 2nd round. His presence on the team will put pressure on Sanchez to either perform or ride the pine. I like the idea of getting a vet QB instead of drafting one. If the money is right, than why not. My pick would either be Shaun Hill or Jason Campbell: Suggestions by John B/Timmaht

OLB/DE: 

This is still our biggest need going into 2012. Our pass rush is almost as embarrassing as our offense against the Broncos. Getting to the QB is key to taking this D to a new level. We might have 1st dibs on a pass rusher depending on our record. A 1st round pick going for Courtney Upshaw would be my recommendation. He has the size to do a decent job against the run as well as rush the passer. I wouldn't mind doubling up on this position later in the draft.

Safety:

Our safeties can't cover a jar of jam. We need help here desperately. This position can be taken care of in either the draft or free agency. For the sake of going with experience, I would get a free agent replacement. Two guys that jump out at me are Thomas DeCoud (Falcons) and Charles Godfrey (Panthers). Either of these guys would be a major improvement over Eric Smith.

TE/WR:

If Plaxico is let go after this year, we will be in the hunt for another big man. I would keep him around just for the sake of keeping some familiarity in the receiving core. If Plax does leave, there are a number of big guys in the draft we could nab. One guy that I like is Marvin McNutt out of Iowa. If Plax stays, we shouldn't be content with the guys we have for Mark to throw to. We can add another big TE to the mix in case Our guys don't think Cumberland will make it back. If this is the case, the TE of Stanford, Coby Fleener, would compliment Keller wonderfully.

RT:

The Hunter experiment should be coming to an end soon. It hasn't worked out well at all. We can actually save some money by cutting Hunter at the end of the season. I wouldn't leave Vlad alone at RT though. I would draft a guy like Mike Ryan out of UConn. He has put together a decent year, and could be a sleeper for the mid rounds. We should also pick up some vet help at this position. A guy like Barnes out of the Raiders could step into that position.

Wrap up:

Firings:

Shotty

Promotions:

Bill Callahan I like the idea of only making Callahan the interim OC. If things change than great, if not, we should look outside the organization at year's end. 

Cuts:

Wayne Hunter , Eric Smith

Resign:

Sione PouhaJim LeonhardLaDainian TomlinsonRobert TurnerPlaxico Burress, Nick FolkBrodney Pool, Aaron MaybinDonald StricklandPatrick Turner

Let Go:

Bryan Thomas, Kevin O'Connell, Mark Brunell, Jamaal Westerman, Cole

Free Agents:

Thomas DeCoud, Khalif Barnes, Shaun Hill

Draft:

1st: Cortney Upshaw DE/OLB

2nd Marvin McNutt WR

3rd Colby Fleener TE

4th: Mike Ryan OT

5th: Shane Skov LB

6th: Kyle Martens P

7th: Greg McCoy CB

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sounds good

think we need to let LT go depending on how his season ends and get some more competition at RB for greene to play off of

by z0d420 on Nov 18, 2011 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

agreed. mcknight can do what LT does in terms of agility and quickness. but as we saw last night, a backup power back is needed in case greene goes done.

by jetrangermetfan on Nov 18, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice breakdown. Although, we have a young QB, I'd pick up someone

that would nudge Sanchez more definitely. You may call me crazy for saying this, but Chad Henne. He’ll be available next year and has won his share of QB battles. A rookie might not push a QB, one that knows it might be his last chance will. Plus I like the idea of grooming McElroy, the kid has skills, lets get a QB Coach and OC that can make that efficient.

Also, you can’t resign Nick Folk twice as much as you want to, hah.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

Chad Henne might actually be too obvious of a slap in the face to Sanchez but,

at this point I feel he’s being too coddled by the organization, similar to Romo in Dallas.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, I think picking up Henne is a great idea

Just enough to nudge Sanchez to get his s&%t together. I think Henne has skills that the league hasn’t seen yet, and it would be an F-U to Miami for the Pennington debacle.

In regards to this post overall, I think it sounds very good. Only exception would be to fire Cavanaugh as QB coach (not a big deal but I think he should go and let the new OC hire his own guy).

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by CharlieIsles on Nov 18, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

We should have never let Edwards walk

Mark was comfortable with him and if I remember correctly he and Holmes were our 1-2 punch at the end of games last year. As the cap space we had the year proves we could have paid him what he wanted, but it is clear we did not say test the waters and come back to us. Compared to last year Holmes has been a non factor this year and Mark has digressed. We no longer pull out games in the last 2 minutes like we did last year. We miss Edwards and what he brought to our game.

by viguy007 on Nov 18, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

edwards was a big target like plax BUT didnt push off on every play. I think i’ve seen more o pass interference by plax then all the recievers last year

by ncquake24 on Nov 18, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

on the flip side

Plax is a better blocker. Braylon would always be called for holding and blocks to the back.

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by GangGreenMag on Nov 18, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d prefer we get a proven vet to push Sanchez, the kind of guy we can plug in and know we can get competent play from if necessary.

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by John B on Nov 18, 2011 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

The only problem with that is, we are going to be a little tight on money. A proven vet will cost a lot more than a rookie not in the 1st round. There will be Vince Young, Dennis Dixon, Jason Campbell, Shaun Hill.

Get busy winning or get busy losing.

by GangGreenMag on Nov 18, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I personally like the rookie we stole in the 7th round.

McElroy needs to be evaluated more before we bring in another rook.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

McElroy would get killed behind that O-line

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by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

So, would any other QB we bring in?

We should be fielding a 4 QB team at this point. But as for pushing Sanchez, we have the rookie heat, we need some vet heat.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

I am a Sanchez fan but I think he performs better under pressure from Rex.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I mentioned this somewhere else, but I think he is way too coddled.

He’s a multi millionaire kid, he needs to get the real Hard Knocks, not some kind of reality TV show. A pillowcase full of soap maybe.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

He's been hit at least 20 times I'm pretty sure that's hard knocks enough

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by Noble_Lance on Nov 19, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

C'Mon you're New York's team!

Don’t let the city down!

And why would you put pressure on Sanchez? He’s a hell of a lot better than Eli.

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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 18, 2011 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

^^^troll

We are in another atmosphere. You're just in the Troposhere we in the Exospere. In other words the JETS are higher than you!

by Fly-as-a-JET on Nov 18, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

good luck getting smoked by NO and GB

and collapsing down the stretch.Again

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by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 18, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

funny

he’s saying don’t let the city down, yet 2 out of the 3 teams he goes for don’t play in new york.

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by rexthejet on Nov 18, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I was in New York City once.

Waiting in line to buy a soda from a truck of sorts. A homeless man was behind me. When I paid for my soda I turned around and he asked for my change. I gave it to him and he said “Damn right, sucka.”

Fuck New York.

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by Matty_Sweatshirt_KTA on Nov 18, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, thanks again for contibuting nothing to the conversation.

But I guess Colts fans are expected to do that as the only thing they know about actual football is Manning’s stats as he was your whole team for a decade.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

lol

That was funny! Rec’d!

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by Matty_Sweatshirt_KTA on Nov 18, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He actually e-mailed me after he was banned and claimed he was being genuinely serious lol.

I thanked him for his support of the Jets and Sanchez.

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by John B on Nov 18, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

At least he stuck with his troll disguise until the end,

it’s all we can ask of trolls, is to at least entertain as they’re banned.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

What about Greg Mcelroy? anyone think he may improve to the point he pushes him?

We are in another atmosphere. You're just in the Troposhere we in the Exospere. In other words the JETS are higher than you!

by Fly-as-a-JET on Nov 18, 2011 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

McElroy

is another Pennington at best. He doesnt have the arm strength to throw it more than 20 yards. Lets get a good backup QB that is a veteran and not be so quick to draft a replacement for Sanchez until we give Mark a chance with a new coordinator.

by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

that is what we run lol

We are in another atmosphere. You're just in the Troposhere we in the Exospere. In other words the JETS are higher than you!

by Fly-as-a-JET on Nov 18, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

i get that, but sanchez has happy feet in the pocket and his mechanics are poor when being pressured

i like him, but there can be improvements

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by Fly-as-a-JET on Nov 18, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

of course there can be improvements

his development is definetly not finnished yet, and hopefully he will work with a decent OC soon.

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by rexthejet on Nov 18, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck Callahan

we need to go outside the organization for a new offensive coordinator and QB coach. Lets get Tom Clements the QB coach for Green Bay as our OC or someone else from a team with a prolific offense. Callahan is not a brilliant offensive coach and we need to do better.

Give Sanchez a guy like Clements and if he fails we can go out and find a new QB at that point. I bet Sanchez lights it up if we hire a guy like Clements and take the shackles off him and let him throw the ball downfield.

by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, no more people chummy with Rex either.

Baltimore followers are fine if they were the top tier ones, not the overachievers who come back down to Earth here, but walk away like bandits.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus

our O-line has been really inconsistent this year, even when Mangold is in. Callahan however takes little heat. I think Schotty has to go, but the failings of Schotty are (I think) not entirely his fault:
a)I think the line has increased Mark’s happy-foot syndrome that has made him worse as a passer.
b)I think a lot of the emphasis on short passing is because Ryan wants to play more conservatively and somehow incorrectly thinks this leads to fewer turnovers.

If your like stinks, ground-and-pound is just another name for “3 and out.” If you can’t protect, your young QB rushes his throws. If you insist on keeping the passing game 20 yards and in, your inaccurate QB throws too many pick 6’s, and teams sit on short routes.

by Buzzy on Nov 18, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

we need to go ouside the orginazation.

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by rexthejet on Nov 18, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Bart Scott

is another guy I would dump after the season. Its pretty clear by now that he is completely washed up.

by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

not 100%

but he’s not bad, there are other people that need to go first, and bart can bring some leadership

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by rexthejet on Nov 18, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Not cut but, no even thought about started or played unless Leonhard goes down.

“Smart guy” – What an F-in’ joke, can’t even keep outside contain with the game on the line!

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

I cannot believe how bad smith is. Surely pool on one leg wouldn’t be any worse in coverage than smith. Absolutely terrible. needs to be cut TODAY.

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by jayvb on Nov 18, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

he gets killed by TE’s. can pool be worse? i don’t get why pool isn’t in there more

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by rexthejet on Nov 18, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Schitty

Needs to be sharing a cab with Smith. He needs to be canned as well. Promote Cavanaugh to OC on an interim basis for the rest of the season, then find a long-term replacement in the offseason.

by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

And it's apparent last year if you go back and watch the games,

this should not be a surprise to anyone. The Green tint is coming off peoples’ glasses, slowly but surely.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

well

they were good in the sd game

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by rexthejet on Nov 18, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

No on Cavanaugh, all he's proven is he is a terrible QB coach,

Promote Callahan at worse, even though our line is chopped liver at this point, at least he has proven something over his years.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Cavanaugh

do you have any idea just how inept Cavanagh is? Cavanaugh makes Scottenheimer look like the second coming of Air Coryell.

by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Whoever is responsible for stripping Sanchez of his confidence and emotion

Needs to be fired

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by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

Its partially on Rex as well

its clear that Rex wants to play a conservative offense that doesnt allow the QB to throw the ball downfield. He is afraid to let the QB play and that has really hurt Sanchez’ confidence dramatically.

by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't mind a conservative offense

but if they are going to do that call the right plays and stick with that philosophy. Don’t try to turn Sanchez into A-rod just because we’re playing the Pats.

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by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree

sanchez isn’t ment to be a conservitive qb. he’s good at taking risks, thats when our O gets rolling

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by rexthejet on Nov 18, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Outside the organization

I realize I keep repeating the same point but hire an OC from an organization that knows how to play offense. Fuck Cavanagh and Callahan leave the organization for our new coordinator and QB coach.

by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

It makes sense, but at years end.

As much as I want Shotty gone, getting a whole new scheme and terminology is impossible right now. Plus, we will have better options at years end.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

If Schotty is released now, it would send a message to the rest of the team

Maybe it will light a fire under their asses

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by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the same message is sent if you cut E. Smith too.

But, I’d be fine with him gone as long as we kept the system the same, because it’s too tough to change mid season. The system = The terminology, blocking schemes, reads. Schotty gone = New Playcalling, Identity, and coaching competance.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't cut Smith midseason

We need him for the time being. At the end of the season, we can save over $2 Million by cutting him.

Get busy winning or get busy losing.

by GangGreenMag on Nov 18, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm just saying cutting him is better then cutting Schotty right now.

But yeah, they both need to go by seasons end. I just think Smith should be benched until then. Actually Schotty should be benched too, lets let fans select the plays online and by text message. Even if we put a live poll on TV, the opposing D would still know the same amount of the plays that will be called.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

The system can stay the same for now

I just think guys would execute better if they realized asses are on the line

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by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

No question. And actually any accountability that is shown will

help this team in the long run. Right now, the culture in the locker room seems sloppy, reckless, and completely undiscipline, much like the product on the field. So Schotty, Smith, Sanchez, Hunter, Rex, or all of the above should all be taken into a room and made to watch breakdowns of every play of that game ad nauseum then one of them needs to be cut immediately after that happens.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

they tried to send that message by trading mason

 it worked for three weeks so maybe we just need to start cutting starters every three weeks and we’ll win the super bowl

by ncquake24 on Nov 18, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Mason was not in a prime position.

He was basically baggage we added on because he was available. Smith is actually in a position as a starter and is underperforming everyone’s lowered expectations of him.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I think if the purpose of another qb is to push Sanchez

I wouldnt use a 2nd round draft pick on it, McElroy would be able to push him enough for now. I like the ideas about a vet RT, safety but I wouldnt mind seeing a WR being slevetd kind of high in the draft…. A big guy like plax because the way I see his contract talk going is either he wasn’t good enough for a decent deal so he shouldn’t get one or or he does deserve one and that it’s going to be to much of a contract for a WR of his age and injury history

by JetMet on Nov 18, 2011 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

Forget this season

at this point they can just wait till the season ends. I want no part of Callahan or anyone else from within this organization as the next coordinator. Tom Clements the QB coach of Green Bay who Aaron Rodgers absolutely loves would be a great hire. We MUST hire a new coordinator from an organization that has a great offense or things will be the same next season.

Lets remember we really havent had a good offense since 1998 because we have always had terrible coordinators like Hackett and Schottenheimer. We must get this hire right and that means leaving the organization.

by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

Everybody seems to love this Tom Clements guy, but I’d rather have a guy with a long resume as a successful coordinator. The “He was Rodgers’ QB coach” argument sounds a bit too much like the “He developed Drew Brees,” rationale behind our last OC hire.

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by John B on Nov 18, 2011 11:15 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Mike Leach!

Even though the Air Raid would be atrocious with Rex’s ground-n-pound, control the clock, philosophy. I just want to see his creativity.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 18, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice suggestions

Getting rid of Eric Smith is extremely important. I’d also think about trying to make a run at Michael Floyd from Notre Dame, but may have to trade up to get him…

by David G on Nov 18, 2011 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

If we continue to lose like last night, he might be a reach at where we pick.

Get busy winning or get busy losing.

by GangGreenMag on Nov 18, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not giving up onthe O-line

This year they are sucking and that is not up for debate, but there was major success for two years prior to that. We can’t start being reactionary now that we are in a slump. That is where most people make poor choices.

That being said I’ve hated the BS that our OC gives us each week for a long time now.

by Saverio on Nov 18, 2011 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

Westerman is like Maybin. They are purely pass rushers.

We don’t need two of those, especially if we draft some new blood that can both pass rush and defend the run.

Get busy winning or get busy losing.

by GangGreenMag on Nov 18, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Screw Maybin, he does one thing and that gets figured out very quickly

There’s a reason why he’s one of the biggest busts of the 09 draft. Westerman has legit size to be more.

by J-Nasty on Nov 18, 2011 6:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Throwing this out there:

Charles Godfrey has been the worst safety over the past couple of seasons, as rated by Pro Football Focus. Not saying they’re always correct in their ratings, but if he’s considered the worst in the league, then he’s most likely at least “below average”. Don’t think he’d be the answer.

by Richard Hill on Nov 18, 2011 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

Good to know. Thanks!

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 18, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Rodgers

swears by the guy and gives him so much credit for his development. I actually havent heard Clements name mentioned by anyone other than myself. We need to get a guy who has been around a great offense and Clements is one of those guys.

If we can get a proven guy like Norv Turner if he is fired then great but I want no part of the average retread types that are all over the league. I personally have no problem taking a chance on a guy like Clements because he could bring over the Green Bay offensive system and he has shown that he is great at developing QBs.

by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

I would actually have liked to have Josh McDaniels as OC last year. He’s great with developing QBs. Just keep him away from personnel decisions.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 18, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

McDaniels

I was also hoping we would hire him after last season but i am really down on him now. Bradford has really regressed this season under McDaniels which really has me questioning him.

by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

That, and he's been injured.

But seriously, they have one of the worst WR corps in the league.

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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 18, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

They really do.

I was surprised they didn’t pick up Braylon

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by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently schotty is not going anywhere, don’t you think they would have gotten rid of him this morning.

by dawg1331 on Nov 18, 2011 11:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

We will soon.

It just won’t happen until the we’re realistically eliminated from the playoffs (or statistically). I mean, this is assuming it does happen. Really, at this point, the worst thing we can do is eek into the playoffs. We get a worse draft pick and people can say, “Well, we made the playoffs so we must be doing something right.”

Even if we do make it and do what we did the last two years it won’t matter. This offense is simply not good enough to go all the way. Another AFC Championship game is probably rock bottom, ironically. In the long term it’s going to hurt more than anything. We desperately need some big changes to our offense. Our defense needs some tweaking, but I think their inconsistency has more to do with frustration and having to shoulder the team more than anything else.

They gave up 10 points last night. That’s a good night. Had the TD come on any drive but the last one, no one would be complaining about the D at all.

by cult hero on Nov 18, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

With the exception of the safety position, the defense will be fine

If the offense ever steps and stops exposing the defense, this team would be unstoppable.

"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty

by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

We need a pass rush

Get busy winning or get busy losing.

by GangGreenMag on Nov 18, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm okay with the lack of pass rush

If all of the guys in the secondary can do their jobs, sacks are going to come

"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty

by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Dunno if Sanchez needs competition...

And I don’t say this because I don’t think he needs to improve. I say this because if a guy isn’t motivated to improve on his own I don’t want him as a QB and I really don’t think Sanchez is in that category.

Does he get a free pass? I really don’t know. I just keep watching San Francisco do fine with Alex Smith. Our offense as a unit has no identity, no confidence and plays flat. It’s not new either. Schotty is basically a known quantity at this point.

Get a new OC, see how Sanchez does. If he’s still horrible after that, draft a new QB. Sanchez doesn’t have to be a Pro Bowler (but I seem to be in the minority crowd that thinks he can). I’d love to see a fairly balanced offense that takes shots down the field regularly. I mean, if you’re going to “waste” a down, go big.

Even if we do decide to get a new QB, we still need a new OC.

by cult hero on Nov 18, 2011 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

Well Rex says Mark is in NY as long as he's there

So he’s standing by his QB, I think Schotty is going to be the odd man out

"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty

by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Did Rex say this today?

about sanchez because i hope thats the case. i also hope Rex takes the training wheels off and lets Sanchez sink or swim next season.

by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. Manish reported that about 20 min ago

"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty

by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet maybe that obese moron of a coach will be gone too

And we can get someone who’s not an idiotic caricature of America

by dar9898 on Nov 18, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I trtied to copy and paste but twitter is acting up

"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty

by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Twitter is such a twit sometimes.

I wouldn’t doubt he said that and he defended Schotty to not to long ago. He’s inexperienced as a coach and is only doing the rational thing with the media. The problem is I get the feeling this is going on behind closed doors too. Too much coddling, not enough head coaching.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

See:

Schotty, Smith, Leonhard, Hunter.

by DesertJetFan on Nov 18, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

They all just have really nice feet.

I'll be up, up, and away, up, up, and away 'cause in the end they'll judge me anyway, so whatever.

by Colts Homer on Nov 18, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd.

All too true, it was one of the concerns of bringing him on and an undisciplined nature, which are both becoming more prominent.

by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the best message that Rex can send is to relieve Schotty of the play calling

Other coaches have done that. Schotty still set s up the game plan, with more input from Rex and whoever he chooses to actually call the plays if he’s not going to do it (Callahan, Cavanaugh). That sends a message to everybody, puts Schotty on notice he is gone, tells the players it’s up to them to execute or they’ll be gone, and still maintains continuity with the same offensive terminology and plays for the rest of the year.

It needs to be done NOW, while there is still a hope – albeit remote – of making the playoffs, so as to have the most impact and to let everyone know he’s not giving up on the season.

by Traveling Man on Nov 18, 2011 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

This would be a decent way to go. Otherwise, I’d serve notice to Schotty he’s on thin ice, and give him the next game to change his ways. If the Jets are eliminated from the playoff hunt, I’d then fire Schotty, promote Callahan as interim Off. Coord. to give him a shot, and hunt for a new guy in the offseason if he doesn’t impress majorly. At that point, I also might bench Hunter and Smitty, and allow the backups to show us what they’ve got, if anything.

by Tim Sullivan on Nov 18, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow I actually agree with you for once

"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty

by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

How I would fix the Jets....

Put Schotty in a room with his playbook along with Mulligan, Eric Smith and a big box of C-4 and then blow it up.

Let the rest of the entire team, staff and Front Office watch and say “You’re Next” then walk away.

by DesertJetFan on Nov 18, 2011 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

Tom Clements, GB qb coach for new OC.
If callahan leaves the o-line, we will be screwed more next year than this year. this isnt to take anything away from him as a coach, but i think he is better served fixing our o-line and developing some new talent other than sucass for the right side of the line.

by servantofchrist on Nov 18, 2011 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

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