Jets Show They Stink
by John B on Nov 17, 2011 11:48 PM EST
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The Jets are a terrible football team. They might be 5-5, but don't let the record fool you. They stink. They somehow lost tonight to the worst quarterback in the league.
Maybe it is for the best. I told you a while back the worst thing that could happen to this team would be to sneak into the Playoffs and lose early. That would give the team cause to ignore some fundamental problems. Many things need to change. Some favored people in the organization need to go.
Back in 2009 I prematurely declared the Jets dead when they fell to 4-6. I will not do that again because it is possible in theory they could win their last six games, but it is also possible in theory I will see a pig flying outside tomorrow. Right now the two seem about as likely as each other.
I will have the official recap up when I can get it up.
Discuss how bad the Jets are below.
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And That Is a JET FIRST DOWN!!!
No This is Patrick...
by JetsFanMurphy on Nov 17, 2011 11:49 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
That's just about my feelings right now
And That Is a JET FIRST DOWN!!!
No This is Patrick...
by JetsFanMurphy on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Same here
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
RESTORE 44!
by kotite4ever on Nov 17, 2011 11:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hah, I actually have such a pure form of disappointment right now.
It’s surreal almost. I’m not even angry, just spent.
by Timmaht on Nov 18, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eric Smith and Schitty
need to be sharing a cab to the airport TODAY! Smith is a huge weak link on an excellent defense. He drags everyone else down because all the other team’s QB has to do is find who he is “covering” and throw at him. He’ll be open.
Schottenheimer is just a terrible OC. I’ve never once seen him come up with a game plan that maximizes the Jets strengths and exploits the other teams weaknesses. In this last game, I actually called what play was going to be run before each snap and was right about 60% of the time. If I can do that, you can be damn sure the other team’s coaches can do it far better. I also truly believe that his garbage offense is hurting Sanchez.
Furthermore, there’s no reason to keep him any longer. Keeping him around for the rest of the year is pointless. Promote Cavanaugh to interim OC. See what he can do. Schitty has proved his worthlessness.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
suck4luckbro1
Seriously though, I’m more depressed at the thought that it’s incredibly doubtful there are actually any of the changes we need.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 PM EST reply actions
have faith!
we will bounce back…just need to cut schotty
We need to do that
But that’s not all we need.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
agreed but that would certainly help
along with a late hit call
I would be shocked if Miller isn’t fined $15,000 for spearing.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 17, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
uhhhhhh
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by OldProspects on Nov 18, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I knew this was how the game would go
Rex would play for a close win.
Tebow would have a chance to play miracle.
TEBONED!!!
and the HOLMES of the... JETS!!!
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Am I just me? Or am I hot in here?
I bet we get rid of Sanchez before Shotty
I don’t even know why we have Shotty here
But rex needs to take full credit for this shit, he let tom brady and tim freaking tebow drive the field on clutch plays
And That Is a JET FIRST DOWN!!!
No This is Patrick...
i think a lot of that though
is a product of not scoring, the jets played the 29th and 30th ranked defenses and put up a total of 33 points. they left their defense out on the field for both games, and when they had an opportunity to get back in, terrible offensive play, and turnovers led to putting the defense back on the field
This
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
RESTORE 44!
by kotite4ever on Nov 17, 2011 11:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
I hope Schottenheimer gets hit by a bus
On June 29th, 2001, the New Jersey Nets and the Phoenix Suns agreed to a trade involving Stephon Marbury and Jason Kidd.
On February 23rd, 2011, the New Jersey Nets and the Utah Jazz agreed to a trade involving Devin Harris and Deron Williams.
A new beginning. LETS GO NETS!
1st Shotty would be let go
If things don’t change then, it’s Sanchez’ turn. If that doesn’t work, then it’s Rex
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
Absolutely disgusting
Schotty, Sanchez, O-line all of them. Simply pathetic.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Nov 17, 2011 11:55 PM EST reply actions
Pathetic!
Leonhard makes that tackle in the end zone… we win. Instead, we let a QB who can barely throw a pass drive 95 yards against us and score a TD on a play that every idiot knew was coming except the 11 on our defense. I am SO pissed right now!
The really pathetic part...
…was the complete lack of edge control by E. Smith. On that blitz his job was to cut off Tebow from getting to the edge. Instead he completely abandoned his assignment allowing Tebow to run right around him. SET THE EDGE SMITH!!!! What a freaking BONEHEAD!
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Game Ball: Matt Slauson
The only player in the game who didn’t have his head up his ass.
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+1
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Nov 17, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
McKnight
Has quite a bit of my anger right now, but not more than Hunter who can’t even seem to take up space properly
I like Sanchez but this loss is on him
That pick 6 killed us
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
This loss is on everyone. Just like last week. Every player, every coach.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 17, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'm trying to be fair to all the Sanchez haters out there.
I like him and I don’t think he’s being used properly but I can also admit when the guy makes a mistake.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
All QBs
Make mistakes. We are just harder on Sanchez when he does. The real problem with this team is its offensive philosophy…or lack thereof.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Pick 6s are more then your typical mistake, they are game changers.
Schotty takes some of the blame for calling the plays but Sanchez is making the terrible defensive read and throw.
How about our great defense
that let a fullback drive 95 yards to lose the game for us.
by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 17, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
We need to give Matt Slauson the game ball
He never got beaten, never made a mistake, and corrected the 2nd biggest mistake in the game.
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I don’t know if McKnight’s fumble on the goal line even makes the top 5 mistakes in that game. I think that his failure to get out of bounds on the second to last play was even more atrocious…
Fair enough
Even so, Slauson had his eye on the ball at a critical moment when nobody else on the team did
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Agreed!
Just a totally pathetic effort from the players as well as the coaching staff. How the defense had no clue that Tebow was going to run from an empty backfield that last drive is beyond me. That is the ONLY effective skill that Tebow has!
I thought that we could certainly go 11-5 with our cupcake schedule the rest of the way (and a loss to the Giants)… but after we fail to even beat the shitty Broncos I am wondering if we can even make the playoffs. No effing way that we should have lost that game… hell we should have won by 2 TDs at least!
Nitpicking with out of bounds thing
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
bilal powell fumbled at the goal line
not mcknight
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
It was Powell who fumbled.
Not the McKnight didn’t have his share of the dropsies.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
i seriously believe that once we get rid of schotty and get a coordinator who knows how to do something, sanchez will improve.
Totally agree
but we must also get rid of Cavanagh who is a hack and we must hire an aggressive coordinator that will have us challenging the defenses we face. Someone like Tom Clements who is the QB coach of the Packers or another up an comer from a team like Green Bay or New Orleans.
Lets remember its just not replacing Schotty but replacing him with an aggressive coordinator and not someone like him.
by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, there has 2 be more aggressive play calling by the offensive coordinator, 2 much passivity, you have 2 mix it up and trust in the ability of your players. I feel that the jets are a talented football team, but they don’t play up 2 their potential. I’ve been a fan 4 over 20 yrs and I’ve seen them blow games like this on many occasions. U can’t really get 2 excited when they go on a win streak, because of the inconsistency. They’ve shown and proven themselves 2 be a type of football team threw the years 2 allow a 0-10 football team 2 come into their home stadium and beat’em. Changes have 2 be made, there is still alot of football left and u never know what can happen. But if they continue 2 play like this, the season is over, if it isn’t already! Maybe they need 2 stop saying that they are going 2 win the superbowl every year. and just go out and do it!
Tha1ne
Thoughts
1. First thing I do when in power, kill all the announcers
2. Sanchez got late hit twice with no flag, ref fail
3. I don’t care how good they played all game, that last drive wiped out any good feelings I had. How do you let Tebow run all over you like that after stifiling the run all game.
4. Wayne Hunter has regressed hard. That last play was a perfect example, Von just steamrolled him.
5. Schotty must……I can;t even finish it its become so obvious. How do you call your two longest plays at the END OF THE GAME
6.IOWHFKJAWBVKJESNVISEANILBVNAEGNSENJKBSNRKJNSRBKJNBKJNSKJNBKJBNBLARGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
So much rage. This team looked absolutely flat and listless. Oh, and Mark threw another dumb pick. As if too crown an evening of shittyness
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Nov 17, 2011 11:57 PM EST reply actions
Sanchez
clearly the interception was horrible but this coaching staff is not helping him develop. Schotty and Cavanagh must go and Rex has to stop strangling the offense.
By the way our defense sucks. How the hell did we allow that fullback to drive 95 yrds on us at the end. This team is a disaster and needs many changes. New OC and QB coach to develop Saqnchez because we are not getting a better QB so we have to develop him.
I could have done more constructive and enjoyable things with my night
line band sawing my dick off.
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by Bro Namath on Nov 17, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
we need about three first round draft picks right now – a safety, a tackle and a pass rusher for the love of god
by jetrangermetfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions
Why do i listen to rex
when i know he’s just going to make me angry
by blazin pp face on Nov 17, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions
Half of me is about to explode with frustration right now
The other half is actually happy at the thought of this team being forced to deal with it’s problems on offense. I mean seriously, how much longer can this be allowed to go on?
I’m sick and tired of this offense sputtering out crappy drive after crappy drive.
I’m tired of talking about it.
I’m tired of complaining about it.
Enough is enough, Shotty has to go.
(See, even typing that pissed me off because I have had this exact thought over 1000 times before this night and every sunday he’s still here)
can i ask you .... how the jets will be forced to deal with offense
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
They could give Tom Moore a call
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
You're right
I somehow see Rex walking into Schotty’s office and telling him he has to make a change and this is a good week to do it.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Fire Schotty at the end of the season
And search for a new OC then.
After you get that new OC, start looking at your options for a new QB. If not for the job immediately, to compete with Sanchez until said QB is ready for the undertaking.
by Branta on Nov 17, 2011 11:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
How many times will Matt Mulligan have to take on a DE/OLB
Wtf is wrong with Shotty, its like he seriously wants to watch Sanchez get the crap kicked out of him
That's Callahan - he's responsible for the protection schemes.
by Traveling Man on Nov 18, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
Callahan isn’t making those calls. That’s Schotty calling the plays, and Sanchez/Mangold for adjusting protections at the line.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 18, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
it's nice to see Rex feigning righteous indignation
that’s some good acting right there
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"We're not perfect"
yes rex….. but you are going to win a superbowl
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:00 AM EST reply actions
ONLY THE JETS LOSE THIS EFFING SUCKFEST
Sorry for the caps, so infuriating and fucking predictable. You get the ball on Denver’s side of the field up three in the fourth quarter. The game is there on a platter. RUN A FUCKING REAL PLAY. Not that dink and dunk cowardly screen to Keller. Who else knew the game was over when we blew that drive. Schotty is so freaking scared of a Sanchez mistake (and can’t totally blame him), and Sanchez is so scared to hang in the pocket that the whole offense is under 10 yard patterns. We are not much more complex than Denver really. At least they know what they are.
Perhaps
but let’s look at these plays:
Sanchez misses Holmes wide open, they settle for 3
Sanchez misses Keller wide open, luckily they get a touch
Sanchez’ throw to Burres was abysmal on the pick 6
Sanchez not clocking it and throwing to Keller at end of 1st half. A third year QB cannot make that mistake. 2nd week in a row he makes an egregious clock mistake.
Hang on
The Sanchez pass to Holmes was tipped by a linebacker.
The pass to Keller was called by Schotty, NOT Sanchez. You could even see him on the sideline saying it was his fault!
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
referring to the pass at the end of the half instead of clocking it. You could see Sanchez coming off the field pissed off. Clearly that wasn’t his idea.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Rex hasn't said one bad word at Schotty and that's on him
How badly do we have to do on offense for him to even be included in the criticism from Rex? That’s bad management, not holding your employees accountable.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Nov 18, 2011 12:00 AM EST reply actions
No need to create more drama
by going after your coworker through the media. Only bad things will result from it.
What's that about?
He's not a coworker, he's a subordinate
And I think it’s about time he was included with everyone else getting cricitism
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Nov 18, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
All that stuff needs to be kept behind closed doors
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Rex is also to blame
because he wants a conservative offense which fits his personality. As much as Schotty sucks why should anyone trust Ryan to hire a good offensive coordinator.
by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Eric Smith has to go
Has to. A scrub off the street is better than him.
The Sanchez era is over
Time to move on, he’s just not the answer, he’s part of the problem..
No pick 6 & we win..end of story. No I I don’t want him gone based off one throw, he’s just not that good and doesn’t seem to be getting better.
Feel free to blame Schotty for every problem under the sun, but time to get real..
Trade two firsts & two 3rds for Manning, Move Sanchez for a 3rd & let’s play big boy football.
No more red light green light..
by The_Jets_Way on Nov 18, 2011 12:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yep and watch him have a pro bowl season when he goes to play for his next team
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
I'd rather take that risk
Because he hasn’t shown the aptitude to put together a full pro bowl season here, and if you clean out the OC, a new guy is most likely going to want his own QB, and even if he doesn’t, look at guys like Jason Campbell who had some skills but had so many coaches that he could never put together a consistent stint.
That's exactly what will happen too...
Schotty is known statistical loser. Get rid of him, give Sanchez a year under someone who isn’t a moron and go from there.
I think your lack of judgment with that statement shows that your previous statement is misjudged
Just because Favre didn’t work out doesn’t mean Manning would not, if he were healthy and made available, but I HIGHLY doubt that would happen. Manning is a once in a generation talent..
...and he's also seriously, practically career-ending-ly injured.
Indy is keeping him on their roster so that they can force him to take medical tests. You couldn’t have a bigger red flag if… I dunno, I can’t even think of a clever enough way to describe it. It has literally 0% to do with the offensive coaching staff or any Jets in any way.
You have privileged medical information that you've been withholding from Jim Irsay?
I am sure he would gladly accept it. If not, I think you’re just wildly speculating. So I will speculate back:
Other players have come back from similar injuries, other players have had careers end because of it. I am going to go out on the limb that Manning is not done yet, and even has a few good seasons in him.
It’s worth the risk. We know what we have is not good enough. Drafted the wrong guy. It happens. Peyton is arguably the best ever. He instantly makes even the defense better because their job gets so much easier. And he is the guaranteed solution to take the East from Brady
by nationalist88 on Nov 18, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Agree completely. You can’t be efficient as a quarterback if your coach doesn’t ever let you throw the ball more than ten yards downfield.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 18, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
sanchez just said he lost the game
hes got no confidence in himself… i think he needs someone to get him to gain some confidence….
its called being a leader, he doesn't get it
by ________key on Nov 18, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
disagree... he lead the jets 4 times to wins last year. im blaming it on coaching.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Nov 18, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Live in the past if you want..
What coach threw the pick 6 ?
by The_Jets_Way on Nov 18, 2011 12:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
he made one mistake
where plax should have fought for the ball and shielded the DB….shit happens sanchez is good we need to get rid of schotty
He made way more than one mistake
Giveaways are not the only mistakes. The stat sheet is not the truth. He missed guys, he made bad throws, the throw to Keller in the red zone, the ball at McKnight’s feet on the last drive, the ball in double coverage right before he got late hit.
There were plenty of mistakes.
O-Line
he had zero pocket the whole game i mean since when does brick suck? him and hunter were terrible. believe me, i expect this from hunter but ferguson has been awful all year
by jetrangermetfan on Nov 18, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Whole game is pushing it. He also has a tendency to hold onto the ball too long
Two or three sacks came because he couldn’t get rid of it.
Gimme a freaking break!
You want a QB who never makes a mistake? One who never throws a pick 6? Well, get ready for disappointment pal because it’s never going to happen! Our problem is not the our QB makes mistakes sometimes, it’s that our offense as a whole is poorly designed and poorly managed. Schotty is INCAPABLE of game planning effectively to maximize strengths and take advantage of weaknesses. It should be abundantly clear to anyone who pays even the slightest attention that his offense is predictable. Hell, Damien Woody even SAID IT!
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
How many pick 6s does Sanchez have this year?
I tried to look up the record and it seems inconclusive, 2001 Manning apparently had 8-10, Sanchez has what 5 or 6 already this season and is not throwing nearly as much as Manning was.
he did lose the game
i dont get why its bad thay he said that
Actually...
…he didn’t lose the game. he allowed Denver to TIE the game. The loss could only be SOLELY contributed to one person when that person’s actions actually cause his team to go from being ahead to being behind with no recovery. So, technically, Sanchez did not single handedly lose the game. His pick certainly didn’t HELP, but it wasn’t the sole reason we lost. Heck we were up 3 with 5 minutes with the ball in Denver’s territory!
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Sanchez:
You let the team down. This is all your fault. To blame any other member of the team besides maybe Joe McKnight is a misrepresentation of the team.
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McKnight actually played okay
he only cost them 3, Sanchez cost them 7 and Shotty left about 21 on the field
by David G on Nov 18, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
THIS
Shotty left 3 off when he went to prevent offense with 6 mins left.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Nov 18, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Yup that last drive up 3 was the game.
And he pissed away 3 awful plays.
No fault to the defense?
for allowing a fullback to drive the whole field to win the game for those scrubs.
by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Only Eric Smith
He was responisible for blowing the coverage on the 3rd down play where Tebow completed a pass (A PASS!!!) for a first down. Then he completely blew his assignment on the blitz where Tebow walked right around him. His job was to set the edge, not run straight in like an idiot.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
In fairness
He did blame himself (as he should)
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
RESTORE 44!
by kotite4ever on Nov 18, 2011 12:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
We cannot reward him for doing what everyone is supposed to do
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He didn’t blow the game himself. He made one big mistake and a few little ones. Remember, it’s not Sanchez who calls the plays. Heck, Schotty even admitted he called that pass to Keller instead of clocking it before the end of the first half!
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Lucas and Schein
are complete idiots. What the hell does Lucas know about QB play to criticize Sanchez or any other QB for that matter.
anyone can criticize sanchez
its too easy
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone who watched this football game and says we don't need a new QB:
YOU ARE LYING.
You did NOT watch that game
by nationalist88 on Nov 18, 2011 12:02 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
So who are we supposed to give Schotty?
He couldn’t do shit with Favre or Pennington.
Favre is Favre and he does what he wants so the OC is made virtually irrelevant. But Sanchez is worse than CP in a lot of ways because he can’t throw downfield either, but makes horrible decisions with the ball on top of it.
He’s like a Chad Pennington without the smarts and accuracy.
by nationalist88 on Nov 18, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Favre had his best statistical seasons, the year before and after the Jets
by Clarke W. Griswald on Nov 18, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly,
So what does that say about our OC? It says he couldn’t do anything even with one of the best QBs ever.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Favre never bothered to learn Schottenheimer's playbook
he was too dumb, too insolent, and too late into the program to learn a new system at that point in his career
Favre also hated Schottenheimer
and I’m more inclined to trust his opinion of a good OC than your opinion of a good QB.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Favre is a dumb redneck who didn't want to learn a new system that wasn't the one he played for years
I don’t give a damn about his opinion of Schottenheimer’s offense. It could have been the best offense in the NFL, but Favre wouldn’t learn it because it wasn’t the one he wanted
Here's the thing
they aren’t getting one, he’s here for a few years, we are stuck with him, and he’s league average, that’s what he is. It’s in their best interest to get an o coordinator that help him out. His strengths aren’t being used. One thing he does okay is throw downfield, and we never ever do that.
You are wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. Mark Sanchez is a developing quarterback, and the coaches developing him are not doing a good job. Sanchez throws a great mid-deep pass. If , as a defensive coordinator, you see that an o-coordinator never calls those deep passes, you tell your defense to play for the short stuff all day. It’s the reason that guys like Chad Pennington got beat down in big games. Only difference is, Pennington couldn’t throw the ball, Sanchez just doesn’t have a coordinator who trusts him to.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 18, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was at the gamelast Sunday
And I saw all the same mistakes today. All of them. And that is the real indictment of everyone associated with this disgraceful performance.
by Traveling Man on Nov 18, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, go eff yourself.
I’ve watched not only this game but every game Sanchez has played in. I’m not annointing him the next Hall of Fame QB, but I still think Schottenheimer gets more of the blame than him. We need to see what Sanchez can do with a decent OC. Then we can make an informed decision about what he’s capable of.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
lol
We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.
Always remember that you're unique, just like everybody else
The offensive coaching staff has to go
They are not getting it done. They score 13 points against Denver, and their franchise QB throws a pick six. So…that’s really producing only six points. They leave the defense NO margin for error, week in and week out. I’m so damn sick of the slow starts, the lack of big plays, and the failure to develop this quarterback. GAHHHHH SO ANGRY
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
RESTORE 44!
by kotite4ever on Nov 18, 2011 12:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
O Yea..
E.Smith
Mulligan
Hunter
You can walk too..
by The_Jets_Way on Nov 18, 2011 12:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions
i'm so pissed
I never came here to kiss Bill Belichick's rings. I came here to win, let's put it that way. ... I'm certainly not intimidated by New England or anybody else. Rex Ryan
by Simon Says Jets on Nov 18, 2011 12:04 AM EST reply actions
Whats worse, getting beat by a fullback playing QB or watching the Denver crowd get hyped by the Cotton Eye Joe
PLEASE, no more matching up Mulligan with the best pass rusher. Why wasn’t Von Miller doubled teamed every single play/? Or Triple teamed? Why?? Sanchez might be a great QB for all we know, too bad he gets assaulted on every play. The past Jets teams blitzed on D and protected Sanchez from the blitz. This Jets team does the opposite (tebow had time, space. Sanchez had neither).
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by MachlinT on Nov 18, 2011 12:07 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
leave. dont come back. simple.... if you think theyre done leave, and when they come back... guess what stay there.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Nov 18, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
I want to say that to all these idiots coming out of the woodwork
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
I'll have you know I think this team can be good under Rex Ryan
But just because he says this is a Super Bowl caliber team doesn’t mean it’s true. This roster is not the one that can give us the Lamar Hunt trophy, much less the Super Bowl.
And for your information, I’m not coming out of the woodwork, I actually write many positive articles for ganggreennation.com. I’m angry, not a disbeliever.
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You sound like a disbeliever to me
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Well people will be leaving, an it's going to cost them revenue too.
This is such an underachieving team that people have to be feeling gipped in large numbers.
Obviously I'm not financially invest, other then jerseys, and memorbilia,
but emotionally invest and spend from this terrible season.
Lmao
How is it? Oblivion dominated, been looking forward to ES 5
by nationalist88 on Nov 18, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
If you liked oblivion you should be playing skyrim right now
Its that simple. Game of the year. Im 32 hours in over the last 5 days. I can’t stop playing and I’m pretty sure I lost 5 pounds from not eating.
Everybody Chill.
we are going to win out…
Remember the last 2 seasons when everyone said " THE JETS SUCK, THEYLL NEVER WIN".. We went to the AFC Championship game.. Twice.
We Got This.
people to fire: schotty, hunter, mulligan, hunter, hunter, hunter, conley, folk, hunter
Halpy 2.0
Fire Dantoni
It’d be pretty cool to have a team who makes it to four SBs in a row.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 18, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
going to the AFC championship is not the goal.....
its a great season…. but thats not the goal
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
not the point
every year this shit happens.. we go on a couple of losing streaks and to be honest it always feels like its too crappy teams like this.. the rest of our schedule is easy. we can definitly win out
Halpy 2.0
Fire Dantoni
Fuck the AFC Championship game
First off, Peyton Manning sat out in the 2009 regular season game and GAVE US the playoff berth. Without that, NONE of this would have happened!
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Peyton didn't get the Jets to 2 AFC championship games
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Actually he did
He gave us the 2009 postseason, and his coach gave us the 2010 trip to Foxborough
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Hell yeah he does
And That Is a JET FIRST DOWN!!!
No This is Patrick...
by JetsFanMurphy on Nov 18, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
are you serious.... what kind of fan are you? you seem like the type that left in halftime during the monday night miracle.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Nov 18, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
I'm the kind of fan that wants a winner, not a loser that knows how to win a game
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Maybe you should go over to the pats pulpit then
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
by MDGeekyGrl on Nov 18, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
lol
And That Is a JET FIRST DOWN!!!
No This is Patrick...
by JetsFanMurphy on Nov 18, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
You picked the wrong team, boyo.
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Where do you even start?
It’s like we are in the middle of a rebuilding year, but not rebuilding because we have marquee players at skill positions in their prime. So many bad ideas, such bad personnel…aye.
He's starting to make me believe again
There’s just no way a dude that has that little business playing in a real NFL game can be that successful without some divine intervention
You know what You have a point
And That Is a JET FIRST DOWN!!!
No This is Patrick...
by JetsFanMurphy on Nov 18, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'd be happy to never see Bilal Powell on the field again
That guy is a glacier. McKnight looked pretty good to me though. I think the ship has sailed with Cro returning kicks.
Give the rookie a break
He had like 3 days notice that he was going to be active in this game
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Rookies are not entitled to breaks
There are too many rookies that play well in their first year to still make that excuse valid
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Has nothing to do with that
You can tell if a guy has speed or a burst at all. He didn’t, he’s fresh, shouldn’t look that slow into the hole. It’s the NFL, which is Not for Long if you are slow.
Powell
I hated that pick when it was made. That guy should have been an undrafted free agent. It would be nice to actually have a RB with real speed besides McKnight who is a situational back at best.
by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Man seriously though Wayne Hunter
Is so bad. And whoever keeps deciding to put Mulligan on defensive ends one on one is also so bad. And neither should have jobs.
No shit, why is he even out there? He’s good for a penalty a game, can’t catch and gets beat regularly blocking.
by nationalist88 on Nov 18, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Gents. Don`t think you lost to a bad team.
You have a good team and can still make the playoff. It might be easier for the Broncos who play in a lesser division, but you can still make it.
PS: You’ll be surprise of what the Broncos will do. Just wish the Broncos beat NE. We could use your support and that would help both teams.
Yeah I wish for you guys to beat the Pats
But I don’t see it happening….I don’t know if Tebow has that much magic in him.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
I don't know.
I’m not sold on the guy, but he keeps raising the bar and impressing everyone, But it’s more than his play, it’s his attitude that transfers to all the players. Just like Dawkins. You’ll be surprise. Just don’t give up. It ain’t over man.
I will officially be a Tebow fan if he beats NE
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im already looking forward to the draft...
FIRE EVERYBODY ON THE OFFENSIVE STAFF…EVERBODY!!!…WE NEED TO PULL A PENN STATE AND THE WHOLE OFFENSE STAFF
I AM DONE !
After 43 years of false hope , I have offically thrown out all of my Jets paraphernalia . Good luck and God Bless those who remain ! Last Post As A JETS Fan !
by bleedinggreen41 on Nov 18, 2011 12:13 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Well don't just throw it out,
Sell it to some young fool who still believes in this snakebitten team
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this
And That Is a JET FIRST DOWN!!!
No This is Patrick...
by JetsFanMurphy on Nov 18, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
this hurts to read
I’ve had about 26 years of it, since mid eighties as a kid. If this keeps up another 17 years, I may be with you. To the guys who say “we don’t need you”, let the guy vent and chill out.
by David G on Nov 18, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Nov 18, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
SMH...
So much for “bleeding green”! Some of us here are going to die Jets fans…win or lose! Personally I’d hope you chose to stay a fan but if not enjoy whatever team you choose to follow. I’m a firm believer that our time will come…I don’t know if it will be this season but I will at least hope until we are numerically eliminated. I think Rex is the right head coach…other pieces need tweaking (If we fail this season Schotty needs to be gone as soon as we are no longer in contention).
by Mac N Cheese on Nov 18, 2011 2:36 AM EST up reply actions
Awww...so sorry
Pussy. Turn in your username while you’re at it.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Mark is beyond regressing..... he's not showing up
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:13 AM EST reply actions
That's not fair
He showed up early in the game and he showed up at the end kinda. Just that 3rd quarter and much of the 4th was pretty garbage. Also I dunno wtf he was waiting for when clocking it at the end. And that hail mary throw was pathetic. But seriously the gameplan was basically “let’s do the same thing we did against NE and hope it works this time”. Probably because of the short week. But the gameplan seriously couldn’t have made it easier for the Denver defense if it tried. And Wayne Hunter is just really bad. And TEs should not be blocking DEs one-on-one.
True...
If I see one more throw on a slant while the defense are all packed into the box, someone’s head will roll. Where are the (catchable) deep throws? Where’s the protection to let the play develop? Where’s the unpredictable playcalling? All missing. Sometimes it’s Sanchez’s technique, but I feel like more often than not, it’s bigger than him.
All of his numbers are up though
His QB rating was his highest ever. The added difference this year is the running game and D and special teams are not as good.
I think Sanchez as an individual looks better
and more comfortable…got rid of some of the jitters and has a little better grip on the game (minus the “dumbest ever” timeout). But I agree…no protection, no balance, the coordinators have Sanchez handcuffed to short 3-7 yard throws in the slant/flat. He was never allowed to take risks or grow as a QB. Pray it isn’t too late and the Schotty/Cav damage isn’t already done.
I think I have it...
Indy has “Suck for Luck.” The Jets? “Suck for Getting Rid of Schotty.” Doesn’t have QUITE the same ring to it, but whatever get us there.
I guess since my life is so awesome I needed something to drag it down.
Lord knows my unemployed ass needs to get cut down even more than it already is :’(
LMAOO
there’s always occupy wallstreet to join
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
How terrible was that "game" we just witnessed?
It was like a chore watching that poor excuse for a football game.
I have seen 3 games this year...
Baltimore, New England part 2 and tonight.
This season is… well… haha. It’s comical at this point.
I've watched every game this season other then Oakland and
it’s been like imagining a needle in the tip of my ____. That painful.
THIS IS A SNAKEBITTEN TEAM
Where the fuck is a Hurricane that unites our shattered fanbase and makes us a winner?
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by MachlinT on Nov 18, 2011 12:16 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
LOL this really made me laugh
I needed that man. Rex’d.
Yeah, I got that reaction too, as crude as it is.
Thanks for posting that as I didn’t want to seem like the only one going to hell.
Where the fuck is a Hurricane that unites our shattered fanbase and makes us a winner?
by NordicBillsfan on Nov 18, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
O line played the worst today only Brick and Mangold should be solid keepers.
Dustin Keller and Mulligan were horrible blocking today.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Slauson is becoming elite. Moore is one of the best guards in football already. There is only one hole on that O-line, and it just happens to be a very VERY big one.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 18, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Moore > Sanchez
We have the worst QB in or division.. How sad is that ?
by The_Jets_Way on Nov 18, 2011 12:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Ridiculous
there are far worse QBs than Sanchez. Some of you act as if he has never played well. Get him a new coordinator and new QB coach and he will play much better.
by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i would love that
but thats not going to happen…. maybe in offseason…
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
When the clock hit 00:00
I think the clock starting ticking on the end of Schotty (and maybe Cav as well). Fingers crossed.
Bill Walsh couldn’t make Sanchez the best QB in our division. Tell me you didn’t KNOW that game was over when we got the ball with 58 seconds left down 4?
Even Rex knows Sanchez sucks. “That’s the difference when you have an elite quarterback” after we lost to New England. Now what exactly is he saying right there?
by nationalist88 on Nov 18, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I knew it was over when Schotty acted like a pussy up 3
with the ball in Denver territory in the fourth quarter.
You've gotta be kidding me!
So, by your standards, a QB should be able to pull off a win with 58 seconds left inside their own 20 and down by 4 or he isn’t any good? Are you high or do you just not know anything about football? Do you not understand that there are a few FEW very good QBs in the NFL a few very bad ones and a ton in the middle? Do you not understand that teams like Baltimore win with a crap QB (Flacco sucks) because they are well coached and maximize their strengths…something this team has never done on offense.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t trade Sanchez for Fitzpatrick or Moore, and if you would, I’m glad you’re not our GM.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 18, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
As soon as we have a competent O-cooridnator, I will expect you to apologize for that sir.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 18, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Moore is debatable. But Fitz is completing 65% of his passes this year, and is actually earning his contract. He is a respected QB in the league.
Anywhere you go and any analyst who’s asked outside of New York, all identify #6 as the #1 problem with our offense
by nationalist88 on Nov 18, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
I’d list him at #3. The number one problem with our offense is that we have no offense. This is 80% or more, the coach’s fault. We have talent all over and don’t know how to utilize it. Schotty seems to go to an extreme every week. Either Sanchez is gonna come out and do a Manning impression or we’re gonna pretend that he’s 2009 Mark. No young quarterback in the NFL can progress that way. Sanchez has proven his ability in short spurts. But when a defensive unit can play short passes all day, you are gonna have a lot of picks thrown. Schotty is not putting Sanchez in a position to succeed.
Our second problem, and this one is probably just limited to this year, is that we have no RT. When you have to start pulling your guard or keeping a TE and a RB in because you need an extra second, you are limited as an offense. The best way to beat an NFL zone is to send that fourth guy where the other three who are covered tight have opened a soft spot. The Jets are unable to do that, because their QB gets planted before he has a chance to let that play develop. Also not Sanchez’s fault.
He has made bad plays at times. And given how sloppy the offense is overall, I start to wonder about Rex too at points. But Sanchez? He’s not a bust yet. He’s far from it. He’s a guy who just needs a good coach.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 18, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
I mean with all these good pieces.
It’s hard to understand how people ignore that fact. It’s not like they are all having offseasons. Anyone who has watched the games knows they are inefficiently utilized, unprepared, undisciplined, and have no drive to win.
That’s because they, like you, listen to the genius “analysts” on ESPN who never actually watch the games.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Hurl worthy.
Henne > Sanchez at this point, because at least Henne isn’t throwing pick 6s right now like it’s the lottery every game.
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we have to avoid ESPN now….
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:20 AM EST reply actions
I’m going to avoid all major media this week
by Goalvalchuk on Nov 18, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
No they will. They are going to keep worshipping Tebow, even though he's terrible.
A terrible team beat themselves today, nothing more, don’t get it twisted.
I am going to ignore the loss and the collective boo-hooing now. It’s obvious that Schotty needs to go. We all know that we need an upgrade at RT and at our second TE spot.
What I really liked tonight was seeing Patrick Turner play well. It is the first time that has happened in a regular season NFL game, and just gives me a little hope that he is actually developing into what the coaches thought he could be.
to be successful in the NFL
you must have a solid to elite QB
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:21 AM EST reply actions
Our offense has stunk with all types of QB's under Schotty.
We don’t know what we have and we never will unless he’s gone. He’s the core reason our offense stinks. I don’t like to push my opinions as fact but this is undoubtedly true.
by NYJALLFINGDAY on Nov 18, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
First of all...
…that’s completely untrue. Many teams have been successful with subpar QBs. Look at the Ravens with Flacco! Or the 49ers with Alex Smith!
I’m not saying that’s what we have. I don’t know what we have. All I know is that Schotty is a crap OC and until we have a better one, we won’t know what we have in Sanchez. To use the Alex Smith comparison again, he went from a coaching staff under Singletary that didn’t know anything about offense, where he sucked, to a staff under Harbaugh that knows how to run an offense and the difference is enormous. Give Sanchez an OC with half a brain and who knows what could happen.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 18, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Turner
did have a nice catch there at the end and it was also a good throw.
Im not optmistic
i am actually very angry but I think we can be good again next year with a top OC and QB coach. I just dont trust Ryan to hire an aggressive coordinator.
by bklynbrewcrew on Nov 18, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think he needs to have an aggressive OC.
Just someone who can stand on his on two feet and be trusted to do his own thing. Let Rex stick to his strengths.
Hey a playbook written in a different color crayon every week can be effective.
But alas we have a Chimp throwing sh*t at a board.
i gotta wonder
how people would be reacting, had we played a real close game last week though- would everyone be saying “this was a trap game, lets get back to work?”
The high throw in the end zone Mike Mayock called out
I get the feeling Mark was told by the coaches to throw the ball high to the receiver.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
He was also called out for holding the ball until well after his receiver is open, and if he had better route recognition WR’s would have more opportunities for YAC
by nationalist88 on Nov 18, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
He also had to throw over the entire offensive line and d-line.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 18, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Ryan Leaf is predisposed I believe, was it Meth or Coke maybe that got him busted?
And J-Marc is washing down Big Macs with Purple Drank.
well
this was my reaction to the last drive
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Rex on post game………Smith was supposed to be contain on the edge. he sucks, but the offense was horendous ……….10 pts and a gift pick 6
Wait Rex said that Smith sucks?
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Smith is mind-blowingly awful
A guy from the Arena League could probably outplay him. How much failure do we need to see from him? Every damn week.
What happened to Santonio in the 2nd half?
He is easily our best offensive weapon, Plaxico is great near the end zone but his lack of speed is glaring between the 20s. Did Holmes even get 1 target? Ridiculous, don’t tell me it’s all Champ Bailey putting the clamp on him.
Yea
Because he said “Holmes, don’t get open..Sanchez don’t give him the the ball even he is”
by The_Jets_Way on Nov 18, 2011 12:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well he did dial up the plays which that didn't happen or didn't have time to develop.
You’d think he would know these things when deciding what plays are the best ones to choose.
I miss Edwards...
With his attitude I don’t think that keeping him was in our best interest but I still miss him.
OMG I said that on the last drive, thinking about that sideline catch he made that essentially won the game vs Houston last year
by nationalist88 on Nov 18, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
We won't
But I pray we draft a QB..
by The_Jets_Way on Nov 18, 2011 12:28 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't know...I kinda liked McElroy.
I want to see what he has if Sanchez doesn’t step up (hopefully with a new OC).
Maybe..
But I’m a fan of Jones & Weeden, so I’m bias.
by The_Jets_Way on Nov 18, 2011 12:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The coaches
are afraid to tak chances downfield and that is why we are so inept. We essentially condense the field on ourselves. It is like we are playing offense like we are in the red zone all game long and the defense only has to defend 15-20 yards.
I think they know the O-line is suspect so they try to keep the plays short and quick
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
I don't know what happened to "playoff" Wayne Hunter
and Brick is having…issues? And Mulligan needs to go. So a million times yes.
Makes shit worse
3 step drop plays must be executed in seconds. You cant hold the ball because the o-line falters.
by jets4life24 on Nov 18, 2011 12:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well said
and it just makes it harder to score when you have to be perfect on 16 play drives, executing on 4 or 5 third downs. What happened the one time they went deep in the 1st half? A pass interference. Good things can happen when you throw deep in the right situations.
I'd be afraid with the way Sanchez reads the field.
But running up the gut with finesse backs is just as ineffective so…massive system failure…
But I think he can be retrained/recoached on that with a better OC.
And YES. How many times did they have McKnight/Powell trying to bruise up the middle, only to get stuffed?
Wasn't that the dumbest thing ever?
It’s like Schotty doesn’t know what his guys skill sets are.
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
I also think he's MAKING Sanchez gunshy.
He seemed to take more risks last year. Not sure if that was because the O-line was sturdier or what, but I find it unsettling.
Yeah somebody is telling him to stay in the pocket
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Game Ball: Matt Slauson
Underappreciated OL that actually kept the team in the game
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Got it. Man it would've been great if he would've actually said that
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Perfect time to fire schotty NOW!
We have a mini-bye to get everything back together with callahan or moore.
by jets4life24 on Nov 18, 2011 12:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Dont put this on sanchez
I dunno if you guys forgot, but sanchez completed 11 consecutive passes in this game.
In addition on the keller TD throw it was supposed to go to someone else, i think conner who was wide open, but conner tripped over himself.
The fake spike was a schotty call… no way does a third year qb have the authority to do something like that.
That last drive wasnt sanchezs fault at all. Manning woulda been sacked on that play, McKnight shoulda gotten OOB, and he did what he could… he converted on 4th and 19 for christ sakes.
The pick 6 was a mistake, ill admit that, but dont blame the entire game on him. He made some other mistakes too, like missing the slant to holmes, but overall he did ok.
This game falls on schotty if you ask me. you can only do so much when your OC is having bilal powell run it every fucking time.
true, but thats not his fault
how many bombs did schotty have drawn up for him all game? how many passes of more than 15 yards for that matter?
not gonna deny that it had some of the blame
but to say that that was the play that lost us the game and not the tebow run is flat out retarded.
The one bomb they threw got a PI
and they never tried again. Problem is Plax isn’t really a deep threat, he’s a jump ball guy. I think Holmes could get deep more if they let him.
The pick cost us the game
End of story.
by The_Jets_Way on Nov 18, 2011 12:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes it did...
Just as much as all the other things that cost of the game. McKnight’s fumble THE NEXT play hurt worse than the pick six.
i think Jets Nation would feel a LOT better tomorrow morning
if Shotty is fired ……
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:31 AM EST reply actions
It depends on who the replacement is
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
at this pt ... i culd care less... could the other do much worse
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
If Schotty gets fired it would put everyone on notice
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
As bad as the Jets played today
Come on, they dont suck They’re a very good team. If you’re ready to give up on this team now, then don’t come back when they’re in the AFC Championship game. This is the same team that won 3 in a row just 2 weeks back. There are MANY adjustments to be made, but the playoffs are still VERY VERY likely.
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Very good is an overstatement
I don’t care who you are playing. If your defense gives up 10 points, A very good team wins that game
At best they’re an average team. You can argue that because their record is .500.
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Would you call the 2009 version a good team?
They made the AFC Championship Game. At this point, they were 4-6, as you said. I don’t know, I think this was a horrible loss but we’re all going a little over the top here.
At least we don’t root for the Dolphins
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They weren’t a good team at 4-6.
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They weren't playing well at 4-6, but they were a good team
They didn’t just wake up one day in the middle of the season and become a good team. They always had it in them, it just had to come together. Same thing now. Just because they lost to the Broncos doesn’t make it a bad team. We had a big game just three days ago, and then a long flight across the country. Playing in Denver is always tough, lets not underestimate that,
I hate to come off as a Jets apologist, but come on. This is the same team that we were so high on FIVE days ago, going into the Pats game.
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If they play like this the rest of the year, they're done.
Things turn on a dime in the NFL. A lot of teams fall off a cliff at the midway point of every season.
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Lets at least agree that
the Jets are capable of being a good team, even a superbowl team this year (if adjustments are made). They are also capable of playing like crap, as we saw tonight, its up to the coaching staff to make the adjustments.
If you come to a fork in the road, take it.-Yogi Berra
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I don't think that team...
Would have made the playoffs this year.
That team was, realistically, 8-8. We were gifted the Colts game (although we were in it even with Manning).
The competition for the wild card spot is steeper than 2009.
Well, it is true that we were gifted the wild card spot
But as far as I see it, our steepest competition for the wild card is PIT/BAL and the Bengals. This is a better team than the Bengals.
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Yep I'm sure
I’m a stupidly optimistic Jets fan. Always have been and always will be.
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10-6, and a wild card berth
And then anything can happen in the playoffs
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this isnt true
of their 5 losses, 4 have come to very good teams. they are an above average team who just lost a game they shoulda won. The Ravens have lost to the seahawks, titans and the jaguars. Are they a subpar team?
What is their record?
Have they beaten the Steelers twice?
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Weve beaten the chargers, cowboys and the bills
im aware that those teams arent the steelers, but they are pretty good teams id say.
How many of those teams are probably making the playoffs this year? Dallas, maybe?..
by nationalist88 on Nov 18, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
I'm going to watch Law and Order: SVU
Seeing somebody in New York get a win against scumbags might actually make me feel better.
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Damn they suck. The rest of the schedule looks like any other team but the Jets could go undefeated. 16pts againt the worse defense and 13 pts against the 29 denfense…someone has to go…
Okay well...
Losing to Tebow was really the icing for this season. Thankfully, I’m out of the country for a week as of Saturday for a while and won’t have to read the sports media.
well guys
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Folk missed a field goal, leonhard whiffed on a tackle that wuld have iced the game
by jets4life24 on Nov 18, 2011 12:35 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Before you all freak out on Sanchez...
…this is his fourth year as a starter, including college. That puts him in line with Christian Ponder and a season behind Andy Dalton. He’s extremely inexperienced and hasn’t been developed as a player. If you think he has the athletic tools and the intangibles, he still has a chance if he’s given a competent coach to groom him. The only question is whether or not he can get that competent coach before the Jets give up on him.
Well it doesn't sound like Rex will.
And I’m not ready to myself. I think most are willing to give him a shot if Scotty goes and someone else competent comes in.
Before you all freak out
I would say you’re probably a bit too late on that one.
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Thanks. But part of me thinks it's going to be hard for Sanchez to ever redeem himself in NY
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
Yeah, it seems like a daunting uphill climb,
but he does have those AFC Championship Game runs to his credit. Better make a move fast when Schotty is gone because people forget fast in NY.
I think we are freaking out at anything in Green and White at this point.
I just beat up a leprechaun
Tebow Christ!!!!
Even the Pats fans know that Schottenheimer sucks! WTF is wrong with our front office.
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Okay you just made me laugh
Thanks
"Burress telling Cason to hold his dick 3 times was awesome" -J-Nasty
If they said "It's not your OC, he's good"
Then i would say they were trolling.
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Pats fans think we should stick with Sanchez… Of course…
Just like I think they should have stuck with Bledsoe.
by nationalist88 on Nov 18, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Not true. My D3 school is TERRIBLE at football.
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by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 18, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
As bad as the pick-six was,
this was a team loss. No matter how much Sanchez/Schotty talk there is. A lot of improvements are in order.
Aren't we used to this bull shit already?
We root for a fuckin snake bitten franchise.
by jets4life24 on Nov 18, 2011 12:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Well after two years of being competitve
Most of us thought alot of the Same old Jets bullshit was behind us already
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Boy has that title reared it's ugly face again.
by jets4life24 on Nov 18, 2011 12:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know its going to be parroted tomorrow in the media
They’ve been waiting at least a year to squawk it again
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I wouldn't say Snakebitten, that implys bad luck.
This is just a terrible team top to bottom. The few Pro Bowlers can’t make up for that.
Ughhh. I think thats worse.q
by jets4life24 on Nov 18, 2011 12:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
it's not gonna matter who's the QB
unless Schotty goes.
My uncle says if we had kyle orton we'd be better
by jets4life24 on Nov 18, 2011 12:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The only way this is true is if kyle orton is your uncle.
Nobody but him would possibly think that.
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People are prone to hyperbole after a bad loss.
It’s like the people who said Herm Edwards was worse than Rich Kotite.
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Now that's funny
Rich Kotite is actually listed in the Guiness book of world records as worst coach ever.
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I'm not gonna go there but I still think Orton is a better QB than people give him credit for
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Don't think so.
Dude is a horrible big game QB.
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Honestly
The best thing that could have happened to him was that controversy because nobody noticed how much better the third string QB was than him in the biggest game of his career.
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He lead that team to the playoffs behind a crappy O line and they lost to the SB champs. He shredded the Jets D along the way too.
by DesertJetFan on Nov 18, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
Sanchez led his team just as deep into the Playoffs.
And that was Cutler’s only Playoff appearance.
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I'm off to bed. Might cry in my sleep in disappointment
by jets4life24 on Nov 18, 2011 12:44 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Maybe for Buffalo
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Seeing as the Jets are 3 games behind Baltimore for the Wildcard
With 6 games remaining, it’s not looking good for us at all.
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Playoffs are dead for us at this point
We blew it big time and now the media sharks are coming in for the kill. Best we can hope is a winning record
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I disagree
Best we can hope for is the team cuts schottenheimer loose. He is the Luis Castillo of the Jets.
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Even if we won
We should’ve been hoping for both Bal and Oakland winning their divisions. Playoffs where slim going into this game, now their impossible
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Cincy is going to lose a LOT of games down the stretch. They just lost their best corner and are about to play some nasty teams. The window is still open for us, we just need to win win WIN.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 18, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
can't someone give sanchez a damn hotdog jeezz
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:50 AM EST reply actions
Who will Woody make the scapegoat
Tanny, Shotty, Rex or will he bench Sanchez
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the problem is : Woody Tanny Shotty and Rex are all best friends
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Tanny and Mangini were best friends at one point too.
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The scapegoat will be the short week.
Because there is no accountability on this team, hence why nothing has changes since week 3.
Goodnight everyone
be safe… dont do anything crazy…
we’re all Jet fans for life… its just the way we are programmed …
by blazin pp face on Nov 18, 2011 12:53 AM EST reply actions
Eric Smith is becoming my most hated player. Sorry Otis Smith.
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So many to choose from, lets just shut down the season and try some scrubs at
some of these positions where we are fielding B league players already.
Been a diehard Jets fan since 1999
and I’m at a loss for words for the first time since we lost to Seattle in 2008 in the blizzard with Favre……..I still really like Mark and really feel Schotty shelters/hinders him too much but
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY WE NEED TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF BUFFALO!
by Mark"TheDirty"SanchezFan on Nov 18, 2011 1:14 AM EST reply actions
It's hard for me to say a guy isn't a QB when he can put together a game winning drive and ours can't
or really any drive at all for that matter.
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Is it all that crazy to fire Shotty and use Callahan as temp. OC
and get an early jump start on the new offense? Our offense just got out played by TIM TEBOW.
by Clarke W. Griswald on Nov 18, 2011 1:22 AM EST reply actions
Oh, well!
Last year, we got the breaks. This year they evened out.
TRAID SANCHEZ.
Well at least we’ll have a nice draft pick. We really need to get a new RT. Hunter got demolished.
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Sanchez Sux, However...
Anyone notice how little separation our receivers get? Partially the lack of time he has, why else? Poor O’ Scheme? Sanchez can only pass in play action. Otherwise it’s an accident waiting to happen.
Sanchez isn’t going anywhere guys….sorry. Too much money invested and Schotty will go first.
Also, Patrick Turner is a joke. Why on earth they have him on the field trying to block an OLB is beyond me. Coaching staff needs to get douche’d. Hunter, you’re terrible. Give the Jets their money back. Eric Smith? Possibly the worst safety in the league…..made him a captain? Rudderless ship. D’Brick has been getting a free pass. He hasn’t been good. Mangold lost his battles last night to Thomas and others.
Mulligan is below average at best. John Connor isn’t T Rich. ….I could go on.
Whats sad, is that you say your own teams sucks, and is terrible....
just you so dont have to admit the Denver Broncos….and specifically Tim Tebow, can succeed in this league. That is beyond stubborn. Learn some humility.
Having said that, I think your defense played a great game. We all knew it would be a low-scoring struggle, and the Jets D did not disappoint. Your offense wasnt even as bad as you, or others claim (other than the pick-six). Overall, good, entertaining game. Good luck with the rest of your season guys!
..We're 5-11 till we're not!
They say the cool is all over me..
um
maybe you should learn some humility yourself going onto another team’s blog. Just cause you have a Tim Tebow complex doesn’t mean we have to share your opinion.
Tebow is horrible and this game was a failure on multiple levels for the Jets. To say we handed you the game would be an understatement. You obviously watch Tebow instead of watching football.
See reply to Timmaht below...
And I was humble. Im not gloating or anything. I have done nothing but be cordial with yall. I even complimented your team! I wasnt even being facetious, I was being real.
I was merely pointing out that instead of being doom and gloom, and pointing the blame, maybe you could just admit, “wow, the Broncos are better than everyone thought. They beat us.” Tebow didnt get the interception. Or sack Sanchez. Its not just Tebow. Its the Broncos. Even we dont think he is the sole reason we won. Far from it.
..We're 5-11 till we're not!
They say the cool is all over me..
sorry but you don't get it
it’s like saying the Jets have been winners these past few years because of their offense. Or their defense has been so great because of Schottenheimer. The Jets have been playing with a high school offense for the past 2 years and have been getting away with it.
I don’t know about your other wins, but this win is not because of Tebow, who had a craptastic game up until that final drive. The numbers don’t lie. The Jets have an inept offense and Tebow has not shown he can make an NFL throw.
You’re free to drink your kool-aid, but we’re not buying it.
The Broncos were gifted 10 points by us, how does Tebow fit into that.
So, he’s clutch in crunchtime, doesn’t make him a good QB. You were watching the game right? Tebow missed open receiver after open receiver. He got some WR drops but these were poorly thrown balls under very little pressure. We witnessed the Wildcat gimmick first hand, done come and tell us, on our blog that your teams gimmick is any different then that.
For humility, how about Sanchez? He’s good at the end of the season and come playoff time but garbage for the large majority of the regular season. People around her place the blame elsewhere but he’s been a liability along with Schotty for most of the games this season. So, it’s not like we are singling out Tebow, we’re singling out terrible players.
See, this is what Im talking about.
We didnt beat Oakland. Oakland lost. We beat KC, only because they are marginally worse than us. We didnt beat the Jets, the Jets lost. Can we not be credited with winning games on our own effort? Why is there always an excuse? We gave you guys opportunities too. A fumble on our own 30. Good field position on a couple of drives.
So, he’s clutch in crunchtime, doesn’t make him a good QB. You were watching the game right? Tebow missed open receiver after open receiver. He got some WR drops but these were poorly thrown balls under very little pressure.
Funny you should mention innacurate. I think you should read this. I realize since a Bronco fan wrote it… you will totally discredit it, but try anyway. Its a very neutral perspective.
..We're 5-11 till we're not!
They say the cool is all over me..
I've solved your problem!
Can we not be credited with winning games on our own effort?
Forum of Information. Where you get your information is more important then what it the true, especially when it comes down to where you get your information. If you are looking for sympathy for your garbage QB, don’t come to the forum of the opposing team that just shot themselves in both feet, to Rex’s dismay, so that your QB can be praised by sports writers around the country.
Go to those sports writes forums that ejaculated after he scored that TD yesterday. After they woke up from their late night celebrations, they probably wrote great fluff pieces that you are looking for. There will also be a lack of pieces stating the facts that Tebow scored 7 points on a mediocre defense that spotted them 10.
The reason people get so twisted and emotional about Tebow is the reason people hate Sanchez, the hype will never be lived up to, and alot of the success they’ve had is a byproduct of other factors (Teams sucking, a successful defense, a well blocking line). Of course this is not in Tebow’s control so he shouldn’t be blamed for it but he shouldn’t be exhaulted when the team wins and it has very little to do with him.
Actually I did read the article over there. I also stated over on your forum that if our offense didn’t execute then you guys would win 17-13. I mention this because I had a feeling the team was going to do exactly what we did, and the fact that you guys would take advantage. I do know about football, and yesterday’s game was the only pro one I’ve seen of Tebow. And from what I saw, he is a gimmick piece in a gimmick system that your own coach admitted he would fail if he was taken out of it.
Not looking for sympathy. Not looking for fluff. Just pointing out the ignorance.
I made a nice comment about the Jets. Lol I actually give your team more credit than you guys do.
..We're 5-11 till we're not!
They say the cool is all over me..
you made a nice comment to persuade us to accept Tebow as a great NFL player.
whether you are aware of it or not, it was glaringly disingenuous.
so stop patting yourself on the back for making ‘a nice comment’ and learn some humility.
you made a nice comment to persuade us to accept Tebow as a great NFL player.
whether you are aware of it or not, it was glaringly disingenuous.
so stop patting yourself on the back for making ‘a nice comment’ and learn some humility.
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